Who replaced the RockBand DLC with GH DLC?

[Xero314-2]

So I picked up the Boston pack last Thursday and after playing through all the songs on guitar I was some how left with the feeling I just played GH3 for 30 minutes.

Don't get me wrong I like and appreciate the songs, but there was something not quite right. Not only was playing organ on the guitar (which I know people have mentioned before), but the difficulty seemed to be highly inflated. No they did add in notes that where not there or for other instruments (except the organ notes in the one song), but the chord transitions seemed far more complex than they would have done with other songs, and I refuse to believe that a guitarist would have intentionally written such transitions into their songs.

Anyway I just don't think the Boston pack has the same feel of accuracy and enjoyability that the rest of the Rockband songs have so hopefully the next pack will return to original fell.

[PCTraitor]

The only song that seems harder than it should be is Smoking, and not even the organ part. The beginning is fairly difficult. It's something with the rhythm.

[shadebug]

clearly you never downloaded bang a gong

[Marstead]

The beginning of Smokin' is one of the few songs I've been completely unable to sight read (other examples are Can't Let Go and the bassline at the end of GG&HT). It doesn't look complicated, but for some reason my brain can't process it compared to the music. I suck at GH3 because the notes don't make sense, and I'm good at Rock Band because they usually do, but that Smokin' intro is a little quirky.

[lipidquadcab]

Well, I've only played four of the six out of the pack, but I wouldn't say they are overly difficult by any means...the only one that's givin' me any trouble was the organ solo in smokin', and with the right OD path I was able to beat it after a handfull of tries.

As far as playing organ on guitar...been there, done that...I'd rather just play then argue about it.

[lipidquadcab]

The only song that seems harder than it should be is Smoking, and not even the organ part. The beginning is fairly difficult. It's something with the rhythm.

Yeah, when I tried playing that the first time, I failed before I even sniffed the ogan solo...it is a difficult part to pick up, but once you do, it's fun as hell to play.

[Sikaris]

All you need to do to make it through any of these crazy/overcharted songs is hoard overdrive... although that really feels like cheating to me :rolleyes:

[Xero314-2]

clearly you never downloaded bang a gong

Yes I did download Bang a Gong, and CrushCrushCrush, both of which seem charted to be more complex than they are, but I guess I expected more from the Boston pack.


Well, I've only played four of the six out of the pack, but I wouldn't say they are overly difficult by any means.

I'm not saying the songs are exceptionally difficult, as I passed them all with nothing less than a 4 star on sight reads alone (even gold starred More Than A Feeling my second time through). What I am saying is that the charts are more complex than the actual songs. And I know this isn't the first time, just the first time I felt this way about an entire pack, and a six pack at that.


All you need to do to make it through any of these crazy/overcharted songs is hoard overdrive...

That's a sign that something is significantly wrong with the charts, unless you are talking a truly complex or fast song.

Oh and did anyone else notice that there is one pattern repeated in all the boston songs that I don't recall seeing often in any other song. It's a strummed note followed by a hammer on and two fast pull offs (i.e. RYRG). That pattern appears a few dozen times between the 6 songs. Being as this makes it appear that Boston had a one trick guitarist it makes the songs seem even that much more "overcharted."

[Apples]

I think perhaps you are confusing the natural difficulty of Boston's instrument parts for overcharting. Most of these are no more difficult than Foreplay/Longtime.

Just because they throw in a difficult DLC week (as opposed to many which are much weaker on difficulty) does not mean they're overcharting. (Organ solo aside obviously, since that's a rather unique piece)

[SmokaCola]

^ What he said.

[Xero314-2]

I think perhaps you are confusing the naturally difficulty of Boston's instrument parts for overcharting.

Good try but you can compare the Note charts to real tablature (http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/tabs/boston_tabs.htm) yourself if you would like.

Since Goudreau was not originally accepted into Delp's band, and the fact that he has a totally of zero awards or recognitions for his guitar playing, I'm personally not buying into the "It's just really that hard" line.

Look I know for the sake of the enjoyment of the game sometimes note charts have to be more or less difficult than the real thing, but in the case of Boston pack it feels more towards the former than is necessary.

[killerewok]

I'm with the "they are just hard songs" camp. And as far as that repeated sequence, that may explain why a few of them sound similar to me. They have a definite "style" throughout the album.

[PCTraitor]

Yes there is that Red with the quick yrg hammer ons that appears in 3 of the songs. It is difficult to hit all the note consistently, it doesn't wreck me only makes me lose my multiplyer.

I don't think the songs are terribly hard and I don't think they are overcharted. But I do fear for songs like crushcrushcrush, when it is obviously a regular chord, but they are making us do g+o just to make it harder.

I myself think that they should focus on just bringing us the song as we know it rather than going to the GH route and making things more difficult. I am not sure however that this is the case with the Boston songs except maybe if you consider the logic about making the guitar play the organ parts.

[WingsOfSteel]

Since Goudreau was not originally accepted into Delp's band, and the fact that he has a totally of zero awards or recognitions for his guitar playing, I'm personally not buying into the "It's just really that hard" line.

BAH HAHAHAHA HAAH HAA!!!

Barry Goodreau is Boston's frickin' rhythm guitarist, dude. Tom Scholz is lead guitar.

edit:

Good try but you can compare the Note charts to real tablature (http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/tabs/boston_tabs.htm) yourself if you would like.


WOW, this doesn't look hard at all!


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[Xero314-2]

BAH HAHAHAHA HAAH HAA!!!

Barry Goodreau is Boston's frickin' rhythm guitarist, dude. Tom Scholz is lead guitar.

WOW, this doesn't look hard at all!

First of all Both their guitarist played lead and rythm parts, as it depended on the song (I was looking at the credits to Forplay/Long Time when I wrote the statement), but my prior statement would apply to either of them.

I'm really not trying to criticize the band, and I don't have any issue with how HMX charted the solos, which are moderately difficult even in reality. What does bother me is, as I said, the organ solo (which I am not alone in) and the seemingly excessive difficulty of the chord transitions. Not every one of their chord transitions included moving all your fingers fully down the fret board, where as the RB note charts seem to be doing just that, a lot.

[bood-boy]

First of all Both their guitarist played lead and rythm parts, as it depended on the song (I was looking at the credits to Forplay/Long Time when I wrote the statement), but my prior statement would apply to either of them.

I'm really not trying to criticize the band, and I don't have any issue with how HMX charted the solos, which are moderately difficult even in reality. What does bother me is, as I said, the organ solo (which I am not alone in) and the seemingly excessive difficulty of the chord transitions. Not every one of their chord transitions included moving all your fingers fully down the fret board, where as the RB note charts seem to be doing just that, a lot.





i dont play guitar.. so im not really one to speak... but.. umm theres only 5 buttons on the toy guitars?! and theres a lot more than 5 "buttons" on a real guitar.. so why or how could you possibly compare a real tab to a rock band song chart.. if you can actually play guitar.. play some guitar. were not actally playing the guitar when we play rock band, so it doesnt have to emulate a real tab.

[surgesnugs]

The only case where I might agree with over-charting would be the section in "Smokin'" after the keyboard solo where they overlap guitar and keyboard onto the player. The rest seem fine. I don't find the chord transitions to be any more difficult than other songs on Expert.

[SpraggleRocks]

I just pretend the organ solo is actually a guitar with an organ sound effect...if thats even possible. Oh and opening of smokin' by about the third try I had that wonky bit down, so I'd have to say enjoyed this weeks pack

[Xero314-2]

Oh and by the way, I'm totally cool if it turns out it's just me with this opinion (which seems like it's not but I am in the minority). I really just started this to see who, if anyone, had the same opinion.

Maybe after I play the a few dozen times I'll have a different opinion.

[BaneOfIcarus]

Smokin' Organ solo annoys me a little as well, and because of this I don't play it as much as I do the rest of Boston's DLC this past week (also kinda hurts my fret hand...). But it doesn't sound like they have added any notes to me. At least they didn't make Smokin's solo a 1,000 note hammer-on, pull-off solo like Guitar Hero would have done.

Long story short I like the guitar but not the organ. :)

[ReverseEngineer]

I just pretend the organ solo is actually a guitar with an organ sound effect...if thats even possible.

it's quite possible.

[PCTraitor]

You could use the guitar as a controller for a synthisizer organ sound. Some of those organ synths sound pretty good these days too.

[_Tronix_]

i dont play guitar.. so im not really one to speak... but.. umm theres only 5 buttons on the toy guitars?! and theres a lot more than 5 "buttons" on a real guitar.. so why or how could you possibly compare a real tab to a rock band song chart.. if you can actually play guitar.. play some guitar. were not actally playing the guitar when we play rock band, so it doesnt have to emulate a real tab.

If the score were thought out like a real guitar you could simulate it with just 5 buttons. You can have many button combinations that can be recognized as chords. Just use 2 buttons for a chord...which on a real guitar would take 3 notes. An Example: Green+Red = A, Green + Yellow= B, Red + Yellow = C, Green + Yellow = D, Red + Blue = E, Yellow + Blue = F, Blue + Orange= G. Learning patterns that mean something is all that is needed to play guitar. Besides most of the post 90's rock bands might be lucky enough to use 5 notes...and 1 finger to play them. And most guitar solo's are single note runs with hammer ons and pull offs. So yeah...should have made a standard chord chart for the songs...instead of random button presses. At least people could have learned what notes/chor progressions were. I think the OP is wondering why some things seem out of place throughout songs...and this is why.

As far as
were not actally playing the guitar when we play rock band, that must be the logic used when the charts were made. Too late now to turn back.

[theblob]

I'm going out on a limb here and agreeing with Xero...

Piece of Mind for example...

RBO to RB to GY to RB to RBO. That hurts. I have my pinky still on O and stretch my G over to get that GY seq.

Something about you...

Random triplets i never hear...

The rest of the songs are fine IMO. Even Smokin' 's organ solo is fun.

[Soja]

I just say no to playing non-guitar parts on my guitar.

What I liked about Rock Band was its authenticity (as authentic as you can get with five frets and a single string, anyway). Harmonix, please don't make us play instrumental parts that aren't generated by the instruments represented by the plastic toys in our hands. It just FEELS wrong. I know you mean well, but that's my opinion, and not an alien one from the looks of it.

[Ardius]

A few of things:
1. Playing other instruments parts has been done since Guitar Hero 1, its not some new idea GH3 invented. Remember Frankenstein? As such, Im not outraged or surprised they allow you to play an organ solo, it can still be "authentic" in the sense that you can imagine you are a cover band and you have just switched on your Synth effects pedal.

2. The charts havent always been there to represent the difficulty of the song in real life. For example, Them Bones on Guitar Hero 2 was far more difficult than playing the real thing.
Yes, they are charting the songs to give you a similar, feel-like experience (power chords are where they should be, hammer-ons etc) but they are not always going to be in directly similar patterns and as such may become more or less difficult.

3. Some people find certain rythmns, combinations of chords or guitar techniques harder than other people do. What one person finds easy another may find hard, this is not related to skill, its just something that happens with humans.This may be the reason you may find some songs harder than you think they should be.

[simmias]

Ardius, well said.

The only song I've ever thought was really overcharted was TTFATF on GH3. Hell, GH3 even has one of my favorite charts of all time in Cliffs of Dover. I'm not sure why people complain about having to use three buttons to represent a power chord - sounds right to me. And, IIRC, Smokin' doesn't even do that - it's just making you move your fingers. God forbid a song makes you get better at moving your hand around the fake fretboard.

Xero - how would you have charted the beginning of Smokin' differently? I'm curious.

[Xero314-2]

Harmonix, please don't make us play instrumental parts that aren't generated by the instruments represented by the plastic toys in our hands.

The only time I would disagree with that is for songs that contain no guitar at all, like NIN or Freeze Pop. I do actually enjoy playing some of those synthesizer songs, so I would make those my only exceptions (mind you I didn't pick up the NI pack because I thought it does belong in RB).



1. Playing other instruments parts has been done since Guitar Hero 1, its not some new idea GH3 invented.


I think the issue with RB has been the consistency, or inconsistency. They don't have you play the key board party in Won't get Fooled again, where there is nothing for anyone else in the band today, but the will have you play organ in a Boston song at a part that includes plenty of guitar, all be it simple and repetitive.



2. The charts havent always been there to represent the difficulty of the song in real life. For example, Them Bones on Guitar Hero 2 was far more difficult than playing the real thing.


And I didn't like it then, hence why I said the Boston pack feels like GH DLC.



3. Some people find certain rythmns, combinations of chords or guitar techniques harder than other people do. This may be the reason you may find some songs harder than you think they should be.

I'm not going to say that this is not possible. I know I am much better at fast single strummed notes that are non-repetitive than most people, and have a hard time with chord changes over all. But these note charts just feel more difficult than they should be. I mean is More than a Feeling (Gold Stars) really that much easier than Rock and Roll band (4 stars) on real guitar?



Xero - how would you have charted the beginning of Smokin' differently? I'm curious.

I don't recall singling out Smokin'. I believe that is the one with the Organ solo but a least a couple of the others have the strange chord transitions I'm talking about.

[Oscar-Rio]

Oh and did anyone else notice that there is one pattern repeated in all the boston songs that I don't recall seeing often in any other song. It's a strummed note followed by a hammer on and two fast pull offs (i.e. RYRG). That pattern appears a few dozen times between the 6 songs. Being as this makes it appear that Boston had a one trick guitarist it makes the songs seem even that much more "overcharted."


these pull-offs are littered all over the game (Dani California), so I don't know what you're talking about. And if you can't do them then go back and play on Hard. I had no problems with any of the boston songs. I beat them all on my first try albeit not 5*s, but i beat them.


Why are people complaining about hard chord transitions like they don't exist? Not all chords have to play like an ACDC song. If a song's chords are too difficult for you to play then i suggest you stick with playing Weezer and Garbage.

[frostboy74]

Are people ACTUALLY complaining over the fact that the songs are not being charted to coincide/resemble the actual guitar tabs????

Are you kidding me?

And complaining about difficulty?

Do these people realize that:

1. This is a video game, not a guitar simulator?

2. If they don't challenge people once in a while, they will get bored?


I've tried hard not to complain anymore on this board, but I had to say something this time.


Flame away if you will, but......

[meister]

The songs are charted fine. What did you mean? you didn't get NIN because they do belong in rock band??
And in songs where you don't play the keyboard look at the bassist and drummer, are they ever playing something? No, that is why they have you play it. It is not random

I gold starred all but smokin my first try, they are pretty easy songs

[simmias]

I gold starred all but smokin my first try, they are pretty easy songs
Same here. I guess that's why I assumed everyone was talking about Smokin'.

[Xero314-2]

The songs are charted fine. What did you mean? you didn't get NIN because they do belong in rock band??
And in songs where you don't play the keyboard look at the bassist and drummer, are they ever playing something? No, that is why they have you play it. It is not random

I gold starred all but smokin my first try, they are pretty easy songs

Sorry I guess I miss typed and meant that the NIN songs do not belong in RB, in my opinion.

Also I'm a fairly casual player, I have a job, a wife and 2 year old to take up most of my time. But I think being a moderately good player (some gold stars but not all) puts me on the edge where I can notice these discrepancies. I don't believe this songs are particularly hard, just harder than they should be when compared to the real thing. Yes I expect RB songs to be more accurate to the real thing the GH songs.

Again, I am seeing I am in the minority here, and I'm glad others are happy with the DLC. I'm actually happy with it as well and will be playing it a lot, just saying it left me with an odd feeling my first time through.

[Purist]

I saw the charts for Smokin, and read all the organ/guitar crap, so I just passed on it.

[NoRemorse]

Xero your not alone, I too think some of the songs are a tad overly difficult in some of the chord progressions. I think you got 2 sets of people, those who play games and those of us who play the real guitar. We will always see more of a fault in something than those who do not play real instruments, we need to remind ourselvse that it is just a game and nothing more.

The problem I see is there are a few songs that are overly difficult and when on BWT it makes it harder to move on when they force people to have to step up thier game in order to proceed with the career of BWT. That is all fine and dandy seeing how both my son and myself can play on expert but my wife cannot even play on hard due to the big step up in difficulty with how hard some of those charts are.

[espher]

I didn't find it particularly difficult.

It's just chords, oh noes you have to move your fingers in a way that's not entirely easy.

I'm not even that good of a player. :/

[ReverseEngineer]

Not every one of their chord transitions included moving all your fingers fully down the fret board


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That's got you moving farther on a real fretboard than index finger-green to index finger-yellow. and that's a fairly basic chord progression.

[simmias]

Xero your not alone, I too think some of the songs are a tad overly difficult in some of the chord progressions. I think you got 2 sets of people, those who play games and those of us who play the real guitar. We will always see more of a fault in something than those who do not play real instruments, we need to remind ourselvse that it is just a game and nothing more.
Actually, it seems to me the people who play guitar understand more than anyone else that it's just a game, and a direct guitar-to-controller mapping is impossible for something with five colored buttons and a strum bar. The best you can do is transfer a kind of "feeling," which HMX does better than anyone else. Have you ever played or seen any of the fan-made charts for ps2? Look at some of those on YouTube to get a better appreciation of what HMX does.

And just for the record, I've played guitar for 20 years, and I don't find any fault with HMX's charts. If anything, they come across as written by people who definitely play guitar.

[NoRemorse]

.And just for the record, I've played guitar for 20 years, and I don't find any fault with HMX's charts. If anything, they come across as written by people who definitely play guitar.

For the most part I agree with you, HMX is doing a great job with most of the song charts. However there are a few songs that some things just do not seem or feel right and that is what the OP is talking about. I have been playing guitar for 24 years myself and play mostly Metal music which as you know is not too difficult but for some reason Metallica's Ride the Lightning seems exceptionally hard as compared to how easy it is to play on the real guitar. So I understand what the OP is talking about and thats why I said we need to remind oursleves that it in the end is only a game.

[admanimal]

These songs highlight everything that is right with the way Rock Band charts songs compared to GH3. I found them in no way like the uber-difficult GH3 songs. They were more difficult than I expected, but not in a bad way.

[Scarvill]

I found no problems with these charts, Smokin is a lot harder than I was expecting, but no big deal. There's only 3 positions on fake plastic guitar to put the standard 2-fret power chord (1 & 3, 2 & 4, 3 & 5) so they're going to have to mix it up a bit. Still, there's less movement in these than you'd have on a real guitar since you only move your position by one 'fret' at most, two on select songs.

[RyBu]

So I picked up the Boston pack last Thursday and after playing through all the songs on guitar I was some how left with the feeling I just played GH3 for 30 minutes.

Don't get me wrong I like and appreciate the songs, but there was something not quite right. Not only was playing organ on the guitar (which I know people have mentioned before), but the difficulty seemed to be highly inflated. No they did add in notes that where not there or for other instruments (except the organ notes in the one song), but the chord transitions seemed far more complex than they would have done with other songs, and I refuse to believe that a guitarist would have intentionally written such transitions into their songs.

Anyway I just don't think the Boston pack has the same feel of accuracy and enjoyability that the rest of the Rockband songs have so hopefully the next pack will return to original fell.


I really can't say anything more to than than Q..Q..

You're playing a video game. There was a whole ol' debate about 3's and 7's note chart comparisons. People were saying GH3's is so inaccurate and 'they play guitar hero to feel like they're playing real guitar', and when GH3 came out that went away. People were talking about how Rock Band's charts are more authentic feeling and this and that, it was a total fanboy bullsh*t thread.

I've played all of Rock Band's charts and the only difference between them and Gh3's is the timing window.

Rockband has some of the same retar*ed sh*t that Gh3 has on many chord songs, most of them HARDER THAN REAL GUITAR.

I've been playing real guitar for 3 years, and plastic guitar for 6, and I stopped patting myself on the back for playing something that "felt" real when I picked up a real guitar and gave myself credit for sincere accomplishment. Now I just play to have a good time and master difficult passages, because that's what is fun to me in Rock Band. I'm in no way saying play a real instrument, I'm just saying you're playing a video game quit crying. Should I post on Gears of War forums and say "when you shoot a guy in the head, it doesn't really explode, and also, if you just got shot in the head, how are you going to scream of pain/death? This just isn't real enough to me"..... uhhh no, it's a fuc*ing video game. I take it for what it is, and I have fun with it, as should you.

People cry and cry and cry about DLC and this and that, but when some decent songs come out they ALWAYS have something to say. Nobody can save you bit*h fanboys, go play something else... you're wasting my time.

[BaneOfIcarus]

I really can't say anything more to than than Q..Q..

You're playing a video game. There was a whole ol' debate about 3's and 7's note chart comparisons. People were saying GH3's is so inaccurate and 'they play guitar hero to feel like they're playing real guitar'. People were talking about how Rock Band's charts are more authentic feeling and this and that, it was a total fanboy bullsh*t thread.

I've played all of Rock Band's charts and the only difference between them and Gh3's is the timing window.

Rockband have some of the same ******ed sh*t that Gh3 has on many chord songs, most of them HARDER THAN REAL GUITAR.

I've been playing real guitar for 3 years, and plastic guitar for 6, and I stopped patting myself on the back for playing something that "felt" real when I picked up a real guitar and gave myself credit for sincere accomplishment. Now I just play to have a good time and master difficult passages, because that's what is fun to me in Rock Band.

People cry and cry and cry about DLC and this and that, but when some decent songs come out they ALWAYS have something to say. Nobody can save you bit*h fanboys, go play something else... you're wasting my time.

Aren't you wasting your OWN time by responding to this with such a long post?

And another thing, why don't we let Harmonix do their jobs (keep up the good work fellas, looking forward to this Tuesday) and we'll do ours, I think they know how to chart a song on every instrument. Whether or not you think they did it right is up to you. So just chill out and play the game. I suppose you need to voice concerns but not so.....out-of-order-y (it's in the dictionary, you gullible suckers :)).

[RyBu]

Aren't you wasting your OWN time by responding to this with such a long post?

No........

[Jimmik]

That's weird, I haven't noticed that at all. I think the difficulty at a good level.

[DSOTM]

hitch a ride seems harder than it sounds

[DSOTM]

Whether or not you think they did it right is up to you. So just chill out and play the game.

since when has pointing out flaws and voicing your opinion been bad thing

[Xero314-2]

e|--------------------------------------
b|--------------------------------------
G|------------5-5-x--------7-7-7-------- repeat several
D|--5-5-5-5xx-5-5-x-2-x-22-7-7-7-------- times
A|--5-5-5-5xx-3-3-x-2-x-22-5-5-5--------
E|--3-3-3-3xx-------0-x-00--------------

last time goes
e|--------------------------------------
b|--------------------------------------
G|------------5-5-x---------------------
D|--5-5-5-5xx-5-5-x-2-------------------
A|--5-5-5-5xx-3-3-x-2-------------------
E|--3-3-3-3xx-------0-------------------

That's got you moving farther on a real fretboard than index finger-green to index finger-yellow. and that's a fairly basic chord progression.

I think this looks like it might be a good example to look at but I don't know what song you took it from. What is good about this song is that in none of the transitions to you change finger configuration, you just move up or down the fret board, a pretty simple slide. Also each of the transitions, save one, includes, if I am reading the the chart right, a palm muted chord which gives you time to move your fretting hand.

My guess would be that RB note charts have this moving from GR to RBO or something strange like that, and not the simple slides that it should be. But again I don't know what part of what song it is so I can't check for sure.

[Runa216]

I find threads like this funny, but the whole "we're playing a GAME" explanation has been done to death, so I'll leave it at that.

Harmonix, keep up the good work, I'm a Canadian PS3 owner, so the fact that I'm still sticking with you through all this means a lot (higher DLC prices, less songs, and a 2 day delay before we get songs)

[Ardius]

I think this looks like it might be a good example to look at but I don't know what song you took it from. What is good about this song is that in none of the transitions to you change finger configuration, you just move up or down the fret board, a pretty simple slide. Also each of the transitions, save one, includes, if I am reading the the chart right, a palm muted chord which gives you time to move your fretting hand.

My guess would be that RB note charts have this moving from GR to RBO or something strange like that, and not the simple slides that it should be. But again I don't know what part of what song it is so I can't check for sure.

Actually, this brings up anther reason why the charts may be harder on the game, a lot of guitar techniques cant be represented in the game. Open strings, slide notes, muted notes, all of these and many more have to be charted simply as notes or chords because they cant be any other way without making the game more complicated (and thus losing the whole point of it, to be simplistic, so anyone can play). This will obviously lead to the charts being different and thus perhaps harder in areas.