View Full Version : Wouldnt it be cool if Eric Johnson´s CLIFFS OF DOVER...
joshtheking20
03-30-2008, 10:33 AM
Made its debut on rock band ? I really like that song and think it would be awesome to play it on both the guitar and drums on rockband...
JOSH
lipidquadcab
03-30-2008, 10:37 AM
What would the vocalist do?
dstone51
03-30-2008, 10:40 AM
Won't happen.
joshtheking20
03-30-2008, 10:46 AM
Actually i only just thought about the vocalist! LOL poor vocalist i guess it wouldnt be that good after all :P
kiggidykev
03-30-2008, 11:07 AM
they could just scat the whole time. like "doobie-doobie-doooo"
buddymoops
03-30-2008, 11:08 AM
i dont think a song without vocals would be the end of the world
lipidquadcab
03-30-2008, 11:13 AM
i dont think a song without vocals would be the end of the world
Well, if it let me get the 100% vocals achievement, I might let it slide...:D
T-Hybrid
03-30-2008, 11:16 AM
i dont think a song without vocals would be the end of the world
It wouldn't be the end of the world, but it would defeat the purpose of Rock Band.
I can see it now...
"Oh sweet! A four person band! Let's rock you guys!"
...
"Oh, you want to play Cliffs of Dover. And then something from the Transiberian Orchestra...and now Classical Gas? Okay. I'll just go make a sandwhich, let me know when you're ready to play a song with vocals."
lipidquadcab
03-30-2008, 11:19 AM
It wouldn't be the end of the world, but it would defeat the purpose of Rock Band.
I can see it now...
"Oh sweet! A four person band! Let's rock you guys!"
...
"Oh, you want to play Cliffs of Dover. And then something from the Transiberian Orchestra...and now Classical Gas? Okay. I'll just go make a sandwhich, let me know when you're ready to play a song with vocals."
Besides which, if they were going to start putting instrumentals in the game, I would rather see Call of Ktulu...but eh, that's just me.
SugarBear
03-30-2008, 11:20 AM
Isn't that song already on Guitar Hero?
Don't think it could make its debut in rockband if it's already in another game.
It's a guitar song anyway, more suited to Guitar Hero, where it is, and where it will stay.
lipidquadcab
03-30-2008, 11:25 AM
Isn't that song already on Guitar Hero?
Don't think it could make its debut in rockband if it's already in another game.
It's a guitar song anyway, more suited to Guitar Hero, where it is, and where it will stay.
Yep, and it's a damn fun song to play...don't get me wrong, I like it, but it's not a song that would work on Rock Band.
simmias
03-30-2008, 11:30 AM
Best song in GH3, and definitely top five for the series along with Thunderhorse (#1 of course), Trogdor, Six, and Beast and the Harlot.
Good God, I would love for HMX to release all the GH1, 2, and 80s songs for RB.
Dzhokhar
03-30-2008, 11:38 AM
If you get that I want the version of Paul Simon's "Diamonds on the Soles of Her Shoes" that is only bass and vocals.
shadebug
03-30-2008, 12:32 PM
this is precisely what GH is still good for, extremely guitar heavy songs. That said, it would be much nicer to play if Cliffs of Dover wasn't overcharted beyond all recognition. It's a beautiful song but a chore to play on expert
As for paul simon, boy in the bubble, please
I kid, we need you can call me al, you know you want to see what colour the screen goes for a solo with bass groove
simmias
03-30-2008, 12:39 PM
That said, it would be much nicer to play if Cliffs of Dover wasn't overcharted beyond all recognition. It's a beautiful song but a chore to play on expert
I think it's charted perfectly. Just because it's hard doesn't mean it's overcharted. Was Psychobilly Freakout overcharted in your opinion? How about Cowboys From Hell? Just curious. I don't think either of those were overcharted either, but with the loose way people define overcharting I wouldn't be surprised if others think they are as well.
shadebug
03-30-2008, 12:44 PM
cowboys from hell was in GH and I could never bother with it because of the HOPOs in GH so I couldn't tell you
psychobilly freakout, if memory serves was just hard as balls but it's what you expect from that song
Cliffs of Dover always felt like it was going too far to me. The full hand stretch HOPOs just seemed unnecessary... maybe I'll learn to play it on guitar, just to make sure
joshtheking20
03-30-2008, 12:45 PM
Isn't that song already on Guitar Hero?
Don't think it could make its debut in rockband if it's already in another game.
It's a guitar song anyway, more suited to Guitar Hero, where it is, and where it will stay.
AHEM *Points at PARANOID by black sabbbath:D*
shadebug
03-30-2008, 12:48 PM
and sabotage, reptilia, mississippi queen, number of the beast, war pigs, ballroom blitz, jukebox hero... &c.
Ziiggy Stardust
03-30-2008, 12:50 PM
Tom Morello batlle would be better for rock band.
joshtheking20
03-30-2008, 12:50 PM
and sabotage, reptilia, mississippi queen, number of the beast, war pigs, ballroom blitz, jukebox hero... &c.
AMEN
hahahahhahahaa
JSchmidt85
03-30-2008, 12:52 PM
Isn't that song already on Guitar Hero?
Don't think it could make its debut in rockband if it's already in another game.
It's a guitar song anyway, more suited to Guitar Hero, where it is, and where it will stay.
uhm. there are a few songs on GH that are on RB
joshtheking20
03-30-2008, 12:55 PM
uhm. there are a few songs on GH that are on RB
Uh thats just been said...Keep up with the times mate!
*Plays an Elvis song*:D
shadebug
03-30-2008, 12:55 PM
in the ghetooooooooooooooooooooooooo
JSchmidt85
03-30-2008, 12:56 PM
Uh thats just been said...Keep up with the times mate!
*Plays an Elvis song*:D
after i posted that i read page 2 :o
lol
joshtheking20
03-30-2008, 12:57 PM
in the ghetooooooooooooooooooooooooo
You have to stop smoking those herbs you get from the kids in the "ghetooooooooooooooooooooooooo"
SugarBear
03-30-2008, 01:09 PM
AHEM *Points at PARANOID by black sabbbath:D*
I don't understand what this is supposed to mean?
I never said you won't get songs from GH in RB, I'm saying it was asked for the song to PREMIER in Rock Band, which to me means, the first time it has ever been in a rhythm based game, but since it already PREMIERED in GH it can't possible, no matter how hard you try, premier in another game.
That said, it will never make it to RB because what's the point? It's a guitar song, with boring drums and bass and no vocals, why would anyone in their right mind want it in rock band? Just play GH with your strat.
fatjab
03-30-2008, 01:34 PM
Just play GH with your strat.
Yeah too bad that's not possible. You talked your way out of the previous mistake. Lets see you explain this one.
shadebug
03-30-2008, 01:36 PM
he thinks that the rearranged buttons compensate for the overcharting
darkangel
03-30-2008, 01:41 PM
If I was going to ask for any song that is on GH3 to appear on RB, I'd go for Steve Ouimette's - The Devil Went Down to Georgia. it is by far the best cover I've heard in a long time and it would suit RB perfectly.
darkangel
03-30-2008, 01:43 PM
btw I hate the original, but Ouimette made it awesome.
DSOTM
03-30-2008, 02:47 PM
If I was going to ask for any song that is on GH3 to appear on RB, I'd go for Steve Ouimette's - The Devil Went Down to Georgia. it is by far the best cover I've heard in a long time and it would suit RB perfectly.
that song is a gigantic steaming pile of ****
not only is it a bad cover but its a bad song too
the solo is so unorganized it sound like the guitar threw up after eating a bunch of knives
and the singer sucks ass
lipidquadcab
03-30-2008, 02:54 PM
btw I hate the original, but Ouimette made it awesome.
:confused:
whypick1
03-30-2008, 03:35 PM
Yeah, I think I'm going to have to side with the "No TDWDTG" crowd. I realize that you wouldn't have to fight Lou while playing, but it doesn't take away from the fact that it's still a cluster**** of a song on guitar. I think I'd rather try to FC Raining Blood than play TDWDTG again.
Songs from GH3 that I think would be awesome in RB (while we're on that subject):
Pride and Joy
Rock You Like a Hurricane (certainly would be a crowd pleaser)
Cult of Personality
Even Flow
FCPREMIX (although I imagine the drums being a PITA on this one)
shadebug
03-30-2008, 03:37 PM
rock you like a hurricane would certainly benefit rom the rock band treatment. The version on Guitar Hero just seemed dull for some reason
Bobman32x
03-30-2008, 05:07 PM
Rumors that "One" is coming are definaly pleasing. Id love for a few other GH3 songs to make it into Rock band aswell, like talk dirty to me, Kool Thing (or atleast some form of sonic youth... come on HMX), Paint it Black, and Cult of Personality
But damn Cliffs of Dover. that song is the ONLY reason I have yet to sell my GH3. Its so much fun. And I dont know how you say its over charted. The whole Song is charted very well, and just because it has 2 5 section paths of hammer on reaching (that damn orange button:P) doesnt make the whole song over charted. I mean I know that We all like Rock Band better, and are kinda mad that Activision has ripped the soul out of our once favorite series, but GH isnt a terrible game and does not deserve alot the hate it gets on this forum.
And I second that HMX should make all the songs from GH1 2 and 80s as DLC. Maybe 30 or 40 bucks per game as DLC (bonus songs too please!):P Those games had a ton of songs id love to go back and play, and some of those GH1 songs i cant even go back and play on my ps2 due to terrible HOPO detection.
Quinarvy
03-30-2008, 05:10 PM
And I second that HMX should make all the songs from GH1 2 and 80s as DLC. Maybe 30 or 40 bucks per game as DLC (bonus songs too please!):P Those games had a ton of songs id love to go back and play, and some of those GH1 songs i cant even go back and play on my ps2 due to terrible HOPO detection.
And just so they can get away with it, the should title the very large song packs "Past Harmonix Game Pack 01" for say GH1, and so on and so forth.
Rock_Starman
03-30-2008, 05:18 PM
That song is horrible,has no vocals and GH 3 is horrible.
Cult of Personality is the only thing they got right.
AHEM *Points at PARANOID by black sabbbath:D*
Paranoid debuted in videogames 14 years before GH 3 or Rock Band.
SugarBear
03-30-2008, 05:43 PM
Yeah too bad that's not possible. You talked your way out of the previous mistake. Lets see you explain this one.
I think it's TAC that sells the controller to play your strat with Guitar Hero, can't really remember, it's just a gaggle of wires that they've crammed into a box, just google it, I found it about two weeks ago while looking for the guts to a strat to custom build a guitar.
shadebug
03-30-2008, 08:11 PM
That song is horrible,has no vocals and GH 3 is horrible.
Cult of Personality is the only thing they got right.
Paranoid debuted in videogames 14 years before GH 3 or Rock Band.
was rock n roll racing really that long ago? Damn, I'm getting old.
LET THE CARNAGE BEGIN!
JSchmidt85
03-30-2008, 08:19 PM
Rumors that "One" is coming are definaly pleasing. Id love for a few other GH3 songs to make it into Rock band aswell, like talk dirty to me, Kool Thing (or atleast some form of sonic youth... come on HMX), Paint it Black, and Cult of Personality
But damn Cliffs of Dover. that song is the ONLY reason I have yet to sell my GH3. Its so much fun. And I dont know how you say its over charted. The whole Song is charted very well, and just because it has 2 5 section paths of hammer on reaching (that damn orange button:P) doesnt make the whole song over charted. I mean I know that We all like Rock Band better, and are kinda mad that Activision has ripped the soul out of our once favorite series, but GH isnt a terrible game and does not deserve alot the hate it gets on this forum.
And I second that HMX should make all the songs from GH1 2 and 80s as DLC. Maybe 30 or 40 bucks per game as DLC (bonus songs too please!):P Those games had a ton of songs id love to go back and play, and some of those GH1 songs i cant even go back and play on my ps2 due to terrible HOPO detection.
You can download a good amount of gh1 songs for gh2 on the 360. i tried playing gh1 the other day on my ps2, but with no way to fix the lag, i had to quit
Daytman
03-30-2008, 08:21 PM
April 1st, 2008- Cliffs of Dover is released on Rock Band
April 2nd, 2008- HMX are killed when the vocalists of the world revolt.
darkangel
03-30-2008, 09:02 PM
that song is a gigantic steaming pile of ****
not only is it a bad cover but its a bad song too
the solo is so unorganized it sound like the guitar threw up after eating a bunch of knives
and the singer sucks ass
dont hold back, tell us what you really think.
DSOTM
03-30-2008, 09:16 PM
dont hold back, tell us what you really think.
ok
that song is a gigantic steaming pile of ****
not only is it a bad cover but its a bad song too
the solo is so unorganized it sound like the guitar threw up after eating a bunch of knives
and the singer sucks ass
i think i said a lot more than i did earlier :o
icronic
03-30-2008, 09:38 PM
Cliffs of Dover always felt like it was going too far to me. The full hand stretch HOPOs just seemed unnecessary... maybe I'll learn to play it on guitar, just to make sure
Actually Cliffs of Dover is about the only song in the game that I felt wasn't overcharted. In fact it's one of the few challenging songs that I find easier to play in the game than on guitar.... Green Grass, Molly Hatchet, Metallica, Iron Maiden etc... all that stuff is way easier on a real guitar for me, especially the solos. But Cliffs is a royal pain, there are some absolutely bizzare fingerings and shifts going on in that song. It's one of those songs that's way harder than it sounds.
But I'd love to see some instrumental stuff start appearing. Screw the vocalists (sorry guys, but you don't have to download it!) Or just maybe add a mic tapping part in to keep them occupied, some tamborine, or maybe a little conga drum dubbed in.
shadebug
03-30-2008, 09:40 PM
I'd be happy to see some instrumental stuff as long as it works the other way and we get stuff that has little or no guitar/drums
DSOTM
03-30-2008, 09:40 PM
i dont see how cliffs of dover is overcharted
its not really that hard at all
whypick1
03-30-2008, 10:18 PM
I wouldn't call it overcharted either, even if I can't get that orange HOPO section at the beginning and the end at all (10% of the time I'll actually fail out at that part in the beginning :(), but otherwise I kill on it.
Shayde21
03-30-2008, 10:20 PM
What would the vocalist do?
Same thing he always does... play tambourine in songs that NEVER HAD A TAMBOURINE!!!
DSOTM
03-30-2008, 10:29 PM
wow i wonder what you vocalists do when you listen to instrumental songs
"this is a good song and all, but you know it doesnt have vocals
hurgh
ARHGHG
AHRHGHGHGHGHG
THIS ****ING SONG
THERE IS NTOHING FOR ME TO SING ALALALONG TO"
Daytman
03-30-2008, 10:31 PM
The game was made for a bassist, a guitarist, a drummer, and... oh, right... a vocalist. How about we get an acoustic song and go without drums and bass? I suggest "Screaming Infidelities" by Dashboard Confessional. But that won't happen, as much as I want it to.
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