rock band is such a peice of junk

[lazyalex]

first of all i love this game but

the guitars suck

the drums dont respond

and my drum pedal is broken in 5 different spots

i mean its a fun game but for a 180 bucks comon give me some quality equipment

discuss rock bands ****ty but fun equipment

btw before anyone shouts abuse-i play the real guitar and i know how sorta to get a beat going on drums

[LancerRevolution]

first of all i love this game but

the guitars suck

the drums dont respond

and my drum pedal is broken in 5 different spots

i mean its a fun game but for a 180 bucks comon give me some quality equipment

discuss rock bands ****ty but fun equipment
i agree
but i say your too rough with the equiptment,chill out

[Tender-Surrender]

I agree on the drums, but I never understand how people break the pedal. I do expert.. doesn't have a single crack in it.. interesting.

[shadebug]

Find me the cheapest, crappiest drumkit you possibly can for $170 and I'll agree to listen to you *****ing about the quality of the peripherals

[darkangel]

when i first bought the game, my drums didnt work... exchanged it. then my guitar didnt work... exchanged it. Since the second exchange I have had zero problems with the game and hardware.

[Vandyan]

Granted it took me returning 3 boxes to get a pack where they all work, but the Strat is my favorite of all my guitar controllers by far, my 4th drum set works great (going to get one of the 3rd party pedals), and this is pretty much my favorite console game of all time.

Sure they had some QC issues with their early equipment, but hey its a bunch of plastic toy instruments that people abuse, and even electronics that arent thrashed around have a fairly high failure rate normally, so considering how great HMX has been from a customer service and returns standpoint, I have no complaints.

[lazyalex]

Find me the cheapest, crappiest drumkit you possibly can for $170 and I'll agree to listen to you *****ing about the quality of the peripherals

wait, because these arn't real drums that's a valid excuse why they don't work?

nice argument:rolleyes:

[DSOTM]

the instruments are fun
but they break and wear out way too easily

[jeff1920]

first of all i love this game but

the guitars suck

the drums dont respond

and my drum pedal is broken in 5 different spots

i mean its a fun game but for a 180 bucks comon give me some quality equipment

discuss rock bands ****ty but fun equipment

btw before anyone shouts abuse-i play the real guitar and i know how sorta to get a beat going on drums

Are you the one who abuses their drums/bass pedal. *you said you don't play drums right?*

[shadebug]

Take the price of that crappiest drumkit you can find and half it, now add on the price of the microphone ($40 in britain according to the logitech website), one guitar (I'm going to assume that since the standalones sell for £60 here they'll be $60 over there) and a game with over 40 quality pieces of music which will not have come cheap ($70 I believe is what new games cost stateside)

So that's 170 without the drumkit and now I'm thinking your crappy drumkit was $200 so we're now up to $270. We'll knock off $50 because we're being generous

by jove, I do believe you owe HMX $50

[lazyalex]

Take the price of that crappiest drumkit you can find and half it, now add on the price of the microphone ($40 in britain according to the logitech website), one guitar (I'm going to assume that since the standalones sell for £60 here they'll be $60 over there) and a game with over 40 quality pieces of music which will not have come cheap ($70 I believe is what new games cost stateside)

So that's 170 without the drumkit and now I'm thinking your crappy drumkit was $200 so we're now up to $270. We'll knock off $50 because we're being generous

by jove, I do believe you owe HMX $50

I still dont see the excuse for SOMETHING NOT WORKING?:confused:

so i owe harmonix 50 dollars for something that doesn't work?

[DSOTM]

I still dont see the excuse for SOMETHING NOT WORKING?:confused:

so i owe harmonix 50 dollars for something that doesn't work?

no you owe harmonix 50 dollars because the equipment isnt the crappiest equipment out there

[shadebug]

if it's broken HMX will replace it, if it's poor quality you got what you paid for

[lazyalex]

if it's broken HMX will replace it, if it's poor quality you got what you paid for

well ive been waiting for 4 weeks on a new guitar

and i think ive voided the drums warrenty trying to patch it up

[Bearclaw]

The only problem I had was with my guitar, which was solved as soon as I recieved my second one. My drums work excellently and pedal has not broken (knock on wood).

Your thread title is decieving, try something like "the peripherals are garbage" rather than bash the game.

[shadebug]

see, I live in Britain.

I paid double what you paid to get the game

I paid double what you would pay to get a second guitar

my first guitar broke. The tilt broke, the strummer broke, the whammy broke. All of them are being fixed by me because I'm not a whiny ***** and I understand that if you buy cheap things you have to expect something to go wrong. It was a minor miracle that the SGs were as good as they were and the xplorers and LPs were never that robust.

Should my pedal break I will, at the very least, get a sheet of metal and patch it or, more likely, mod a real pedal to do the same trick.

As I understand it, GHIII in the US was $120 with the included guitar, so you're clearly paying more for that

[McKeever573]

I bought RockBand this afternoon and sat down at 9 p.m. to play it. After slightly less than two hours of use, the blue pad on the drum kit became intermittent, then stopped responding to hits completely during a song. Please note that I would not characterize my playing as "hard" or abusive of the equipment at all (in fact, I tend to NOT hit the pads hard enough sometimes...but that's my problem).

Anyway, I understand that this is an inexpensive "drum kit" and I could accept a failure after a few months of use, but TWO hours? Come on! A quick Google and forum search turns up quite a few of the same complaints. That's either really sub-standard QC...or, they built the thing too cheaply and rolled the dice on how it would hold up to keep the price point where their marketing/sales pukes needed it to be. Hang your head in shame, QC department, for you failed us, the users.

(Note for future EA/Harmonix endeavors: I and most of my gamer friends would rather pay money for something that can stand up to regular use for a while than get crapware that I need to send back the day I buy it.)

Sure, they'll fix it - I signed up on the RockBand support website for a RMA replacement (the express version of which requires me to have a hold placed on my CC) - but I can't help but feel like they know that there's a bunch of 1st generation hardware product out there that's ALL going to need replacement. Evidence of which is the fact that there's both a sticker on the outside AND a sheet of paper inside the box stating that IF I have problems with the game, I CANNOT return the stuff to the place I bought it...I have to deal with EA. That's so that they can keep from angering the retail chains with a bazillion returns. I'd like to be proven wrong, but I can't find a single product that I've bought recently with the same caveat displayed so openly on the box. Plus, the automated website section specifically for RockBand hardware? That's a big clue, because you don't go about setting up an entire automated RMA system with credit-card transactions for a few isolated hardware failures.

I'm crossing my fingers that what they send me is the next (read: improved) version of the hardware, which can actually stand up to normal use. Until then, I'll switch to using the guitar so I can see how long until it breaks.

- Dissatisfied in Boston

[RevN8r]

It's a game. The real instruments would cost you a lot more. They replace anything for free, and the replacements have less issues. Sure, it's a pain, but it's a game, so go play and quit complaining.

[Rorschach1976]

Maybe I've just been lucky, but I bought the game about 3 months ago, and haven't had a single thing go wrong. I play the drums mostly and have gone through every song plus plenty of DLC on Hard and Expert and don't even have a crack to show for it. I keep compulsively checking the foot pedal for signs of breaking, but so far nothing.

[Eman311]

I had issues with the guitar, got it exchanged but haven't even opened the box it came back in.

I prefer the GH2 controller over anything else anyways.

[fatalvendetta]

The bass pedal breaks because the person doesn't distribute weight properly on it and push directly on the center (or wherever) of the pedal.

[Colt_Steele]

I before E

[Dartagnan64]

I agree the equipment is cheaply made and breaks easily. But EA is good about replacements. I got an extra guitar from them for free because of a delay in getting mine replaced.

The two replacement strats have held up nicely and my Les Paul from GHIII is starting to mess up because of the detachable neck issue.

My drums have performed flawlessly since day one and I've not come near to breaking a pedal.

So its a matter of how you play and what kind of equip you got. For many of us, things work fine.

[HeadHunter67]

That's either really sub-standard QC...or, they built the thing too cheaply and rolled the dice on how it would hold up to keep the price point where their marketing/sales pukes needed it to be. Hang your head in shame, QC department, for you failed us, the users.
Perhaps... but what price point would have been satisfactory to the market? Originally, the price was going to be a lot higher, but people didn't like to hear that.


I and most of my gamer friends would rather pay money for something that can stand up to regular use for a while than get crapware that I need to send back the day I buy it.
Personally, I agree - but I wonder how well the game would do with a $300 price tag. Look up "Steel Battalion" sometime. :)


Evidence of which is the fact that there's both a sticker on the outside AND a sheet of paper inside the box stating that IF I have problems with the game, I CANNOT return the stuff to the place I bought it...I have to deal with EA. That's so that they can keep from angering the retail chains with a bazillion returns. I'd like to be proven wrong, but I can't find a single product that I've bought recently with the same caveat displayed so openly on the box.
There are quite a few products (http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=%22do+not+return%22+place+purchase&ei=UTF-8&fr=my-myy&xargs=0&pstart=1&b=11)that say that, not just electronics but everyday stuff too.


Plus, the automated website section specifically for RockBand hardware? That's a big clue, because you don't go about setting up an entire automated RMA system with credit-card transactions for a few isolated hardware failures.
Heaven forbid they set up an RMA system to enable them to stand behind their product... :rolleyes: Would you rather they have you call, and provide proof of ownership and date of purchase?

They seem to be pretty lenient about all this.

[LesPaul5391]

I haven't had to exchange a single perephiral and am more than satisfied with the Rock Band equipment. Maybe you've just a bit of bad luck...

[comptonst]

first of all i love this game but

the guitars suck

the drums dont respond

and my drum pedal is broken in 5 different spots

i mean its a fun game but for a 180 bucks comon give me some quality equipment

discuss rock bands ****ty but fun equipment

btw before anyone shouts abuse-i play the real guitar and i know how sorta to get a beat going on drums

The only piece of hardware that i think sucks is the strum on the strat, everything about the strat guitar controller is perfect except the crappy strum bar. Shoulda kept the GH strum bar with the clicking cause it feels better to have that feedback and the new strum wares out after playing the game for a while and then it has a hard time registering that you hit notes so then you have to jam on it to get it to read anything.

[killerewok]

I realize my results are not typical, but I just finished the solo Hard tour, 5-starring all but 4-5 songs, including just about 30 of my DLC songs. I have 5 gold starred 2 songs on expert. Our band has done just about everything on Medium, and we completed maybe 20-25 songs/sets on Hard with, again, only a few Expert songs completed. We have never had any trouble. My drums work great, and the only issue with the guitar is the occasional stubborn Overdrive activation.

[TakeABow]

I am on my second guitar, but the RMA process was quick and painless. Generation I -> Generation IV, and since then no problems.

My drumset has worked wonderfully since day one, and I have had no problems at all with the usb microphone.

Could the drumset have better rebound, better layout, more customization options, more pads, etc? Yes it could - but - it would have made the bundle way too expensive. If my drumset does ever give up, I will look into the third party drumset uptions, but until then, I'm not at all upset with what I paid for.

It is a game, they are toy guitars and drums, so they cost less, are less durable, and aren't as nice as thier real counterparts.

[Blueb1rds]

I (really a group of 3 of us) am on the 6th rock band and we're still having trouble with this. The main problem has been the strat. The strummer/irresponsiveness is killing us and we're not getting much luck with getting 4th gen peripherals.

[Vexinator]

Man, you can exchange it back again.Its not crappy(A little but...)Its expensive to make all of this sets and they can't afford to better.So next time you are so mad at EA, Harmonix and MTV, think about how expensive it will be?Maybe not now, but when they are gonna release it in EU.:mad:

[DjPiLL]

first of all i love this game but

the drums dont respond

and my drum pedal is broken in 5 different spots




http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20420

FTW!

[power5050]

Dude, c'mon! It's a VIDEO GAME. It's not going to be a great quality-neil peart-set. It's going to break with play, but you have options when this happens. You can replace it via EA, you can buy a third party set, there are many options you can use. I've definitely had to use them.

[killer_roach]

Still am on my original drum set, and I'm largely playing on Expert anymore... still in phenomenal condition.

I returned my first Strat, and the one I got back had the spring in the whammy bar break almost immediately, but the guitar works quite well other than that minor issue (whammy bar still works manually), so I can't say I've had much to complain about...

[silvam14]

I've had the game since January and I haven't had an issue with the peripherals at all. I will bet dollars to doughnuts that the bulk of the people with issues treat their instruments as if they are the real thing which they are most certainly not.

A little care and gentle play goes a long way.

[FogJuice]

Pleeeeez.... Stop hugging EA's nuts so tightly! If there is an uncommonly high failure rate on the equipment, then they deserve to be called on it. Who in there right mind would shell out $180 for something that had a playing life of a few months at best and two hours at worst? Maybe if you're a Saudi Prince with petrodollars to burn, but not me. Luckily EA is doing the honorable thing and replacing the broken peripherals. Harmonix is not stupid. They know they have a cash cow with the DLC (I've already spent $50 on DLC alone, and I bet that is quite common) and if people don't have any faith in the instruments or theirs are broken, that's going to mean $0 for DLC.

[Bullseye]

I'd say that there are obviously some short-comings in the instrument design, but calling it a piece of junk is a little bit of an exaggeration. I replaced my Strat (at NO COST to me) after it seemed to be double strumming. Drums, are original issue, as well as the mic. 3 instruments and a full game for $170, IMHO still feels like a bargain to me.

[Steef]

Most pieces of junk don't sell this well, pal.
The instruments break, but they also have a GREAT warranty for them ;)

[Boognish]

I've had the game since January and I haven't had an issue with the peripherals at all. I will bet dollars to doughnuts that the bulk of the people with issues treat their instruments as if they are the real thing which they are most certainly not.

A little care and gentle play goes a long way.

I understand your point of view, but really, you don't know what you are talking about. I don't mean that as an insult, just that you don't have all of the facts, obviously.

The reason you think that is because you bought a later set. Those of us with launch day sets had bum equipment from the start. Granted, some would last longer than others, but it was all a matter of time.

The original drums weren't sensitive enough and you had to put more force in your hits to get it to register. I got used to it, but the pads couldn't take the beating and the yellow one gets a dent. It's the yellow because that is the most used pad in the majority of songs. The replacement set I received is so sensitive the lightest taps register. There's no way I would hit these as hard as I did my old pads because that takes way too much energy. Now, I play faster and cleaner, all thanks to the improvement in the sensors.

The guitar strum mechanism in the first batch will not last for most people. I'm guessing the prototypes they tested it on were manufactured better, and in theory they would be fine for extended use. But what we received were not sufficiently secured so the metal piece used to make contact would eventually lose its position. It doesn't matter how careful you are with it, if the metal contact isn't secure it will move out of the way. When I first played on it, it was so responsive the slightest tough would trigger the note. Because I liked that I didn't have to bang it back and forth anymore I kept playing it easy. But slowly the note wouldn't trigger as quickly and I had to go further away from the resting position to get it to work. Eventually it wouldn't strum at all until I poked around inside and discovered why it wasn't working.

I did fix it, and it worked great, but after the whammy spring broke I had to RMA. And think about it, a whammy spring, you just move it back and forth. Even pushing it to the limit of the bar (which is how far they let us move it), the spring shouldn't break. Since it is a longer and smoother whammy compared to my Xplorers, I'm much easier on it then them, but yet their springs are fine and the Strat broke.

The new guitar has been a lot more abused (because I wanted to make sure this one would last rather than being easy on it like the last one) and it hasn't shown any signs of problems since I received it back in December. The new magnetic strummer did the trick, with less possible manufacturing problems. So, things have changed, hence you not fully understanding the situation and so willing to lose money on a bet.

Yes, they had problems. Yes, they've fixed the problems (mostly), so it sounds like you got a good set like I now have. Congratulations.

[killer_roach]

Pleeeeez.... Stop hugging EA's nuts so tightly! If there is an uncommonly high failure rate on the equipment, then they deserve to be called on it. Who in there right mind would shell out $180 for something that had a playing life of a few months at best and two hours at worst? Maybe if you're a Saudi Prince with petrodollars to burn, but not me. Luckily EA is doing the honorable thing and replacing the broken peripherals. Harmonix is not stupid. They know they have a cash cow with the DLC (I've already spent $50 on DLC alone, and I bet that is quite common) and if people don't have any faith in the instruments or theirs are broken, that's going to mean $0 for DLC.

I think somebody has an irrational hatred of EA... come on, I can't even get that ginned up about Activision, who have been doing the whole "evil publisher" thing better than EA ever has even before EA ever existed. Yes, the initial batch of hardware was rushed out without possibly a sufficient amount of stress testing, but they were quick to respond to that and have been admirable to that end, even replacing faulty peripherals in very short order. The fact that they owned up to it sure beats denying rumors of failure, claiming there is no problem, or even blaming the user...

Still don't quite see what you're getting at with the drums, though. Maybe I just got lucky by virtue of not buying the game until January, but I have no sensitivity issues with my drums, and the heads are still in nearly pristine condition, no small feat considering they've been pounded on by a 250-pound walking tank playing on Expert most of this time...

[shadebug]

are you kidding? EA have had a monopoly on evil publisher for years. Sure activision cash in and run franchises into the ground but they're not actively evil (not until the LP ps3 thing)

[silvam14]

The reason you think that is because you bought a later set. Those of us with launch day sets had bum equipment from the start. Granted, some would last longer than others, but it was all a matter of time.



You are quite correct there. When it comes down to the equipment released circa launch day, I don't know what I'm talking about. I apologize.

No offense taken :)

[dmwinkler11]

Not sure if anyone else bought their RockBand from Best Buy... but they have a service plan thing, it was like $20 and anything that breaks they will replace for 1 year and 3 replacements for a year after that :-) pretty good deal! I have already got a new guitar and new drums... not questions asked, just take it in and they open a new box and hand me what I need :-)

[Hanrahan89]

I got mine on the release day and the guitar broke after 3 weeks it only works if I strum up not down but it's no big deal I still have my GH2 and GH3 controllers which work. The drums I got worked for about 3 months now the bass pedal doesn't work but its not cracked it just doesn't respond so now when my friends come over we just have to take turns on guitar.

[TheBends]

I disagree with you, I think Donkey Kong for the Super Nintendo is greatest game ever.

Sorry. Thought of Billy Madison from the Original Post. Just get new instruments. Seriously not too difficult.

[McKeever573]

[Personally, I agree - but I wonder how well the game would do with a $300 price tag. Look up "Steel Battalion" sometime. :)[/QUOTE]

The Steel Battalion hardware was very well built and I was happy to spend the money on it. I used it solid for a few months and had no issues. If EA couldn't find a way to have dependable hardware at the price point the marketing/sales slugs wanted then either a) don't do it, or b) go with it as a loss-leader in the financial plan and make your DLC the revenue stream. Or, sell the instruments/game individually (to get people who aren't willing to spend the money) and have a deluxe edition that has everything (for those of us that are willing to pay the higher price). You get what you pay for and this isn't an exception.

And, just to be clear to some of the people who don't seem to get it: I'm not expecting the Rock Band equipment to hold up like "real instruments" and I understand that they're not a $2k set of Roland or Yamaha drum pads. I'm just expecting it to hold up like a regular video game controller, i.e. stand up to use by an enraged gorilla and/or 13-year old. My XBox 360 controllers are over a year old and have no problems...that's all I'm looking for here.


[Heaven forbid they set up an RMA system to enable them to stand behind their product... :rolleyes: Would you rather they have you call, and provide proof of ownership and date of purchase? They seem to be pretty lenient about all this.[/QUOTE]

You've missed the point. The RMA system is great, but it makes it plainly obvious that the problems with their hardware are far and wide. You can't be naive enough to believe that they're doing this "leniency" out of the goodness of their corporate hearts, right? This is textbook "avoid the class-action" suit behavior because they know they've got a ton of crap product out there. Wake up...

[DSOTM]

wait so it isnt a bad thing if the instruments break?
because a lot of people here seem to think that its okay if the instruments arent very durable

[McKeever573]

I will bet dollars to doughnuts that the bulk of the people with issues treat their instruments as if they are the real thing which they are most certainly not.

You bet unwisely, then. Sure there are some people, such as the spelling-challenged thread-starter that sound like they're beating the crap out of the hardware, but there are plenty more people on these very forums that are just using them as intended...and they're still breaking.

If, as you bet, it was just a bunch of abusive players going too far with the hardware, do you really think that EA would be replacing the stuff for free with practically no questions asked? (hint: bet "no" on this one...)

[ffwarrior47]

I guess i'm lucky then....
guitar:broken patched up after a week
drums:expert drummer...drums still 100% working
mic:broken...but that was my own fault
___________________________________
$170 + DLC = Best money i've never spent (i say never because my parents bought it) :D

[McKeever573]

The instruments break, but they also have a GREAT warranty for them ;)

That's a sad statement, isn't it? I mean, how great is a product when you're touting it's replacement warranty or failure mitigation as a feature?

[DSOTM]

i mean the xbox 360 gets the red ring of death, but so wat? i mean u can just replace it and then no problm :):D:);)

[Firebreak]

I have to agree about the hardware. Haven't had my drum pedal break yet, but I took a close look and I can see how easily it bends when using it, so no surprise that they are breaking a lot.

My guitar on the other hand had 3 issues straight out of the box. (Waiting for my replacement to come) The strum bar is very inaccurate when doing fast up/down strums. (Seems to be the up strum that's not working well because if I force myself to do hyper speed all down strums, I hit every note) Also the tilt has never worked, but once in a while activates on it's own. I have to use the select button. Finally, the blue button sometimes acts up. (Pretty rare) When it does, I can hold the button down, but on the screen it will be flickering on and off.

I understand that with everything included in this package, they had to cut some corners to keep the costs to a level that would still attract buyers, but at the same time, I think they took it too far with the hardware. The game itself, software wise, seems extremely well polished. Personally, if the game were say $50 more and had good quality hardware, I would have been much happier in the end. If the new guitar that comes for me has similar issues, I may have to look to 3rd party stuff when it releases, which means the majority of the hardware I already paid for is going to end up collecting dust in a closet.. Such a waste if that's the case. I'll be pretty happy though if I get a working guitar replacement, but I'll probably still buy a 3rd party pedal. Nothing would suck more that my pedal breaking when I have 3 friends over for an evening of Rockband fun.

Fire

[Sarge51]

The drums are kind of cheap. The guitar feels like a toy. and the microphone is boring.


In yet, I still love this bloody game.

[HeadHunter67]

The Steel Battalion hardware was very well built and I was happy to spend the money on it. I used it solid for a few months and had no issues.

Wow... a few months? As in, the amount of time Rock Band has been out?

You missed my point - Steel Battalion was a very expensive game, and as such it had a small market share and a short lifespan.

You get what you pay for - some people would gladly pay twice as much for reliable controllers, but obviously most of the market would not or EA would have kept the higher price point they were originally imagining.

[Firebreak]

Truth be told, they could have upped the quality and kept the price the same, even if it killed their profit on the sale of the initial box and still made a killing off the DLC. (Probably a bigger killing because the quality of the game would be better)

Also, think of all the money they're spending on warranty replacement equipment. That cost alone could have justified better quality out of the starting gates.

Fire

[DeadManDrumming]

IMO the best idea if Rock Band instruments suck so bad is go buy a real one!

You don't even have to pay to play alongside songs AND their less likely to brake!

[DSOTM]

IMO the best idea if Rock Band instruments suck so bad is go buy a real one!

You don't even have to pay to play alongside songs AND their less likely to brake!

obvious troll is obvious

[BIG_RANDOM]

I'll agree with u that some of the equipment could have been produced to be more durable, but I also believe that if they made the equipment any stronger they would have to up the price of the bundle. I think for only $170 all the equipment u get is a really great deal. Maybe harmonix should make additional pedals and drum kits that u can buy if u are more serious about the drums. I use an omega pedal which ran me over $100 after shipping and handling but i really enjoy the drumming aspect of this game and don't regret buying it. but for people who arent looking to be serious about it i would suggest just getting harmonix to send u replacements - i got my pedal replaces 3 times befor ei purchased a 3rd party pedal.

[Firebreak]

IMO the best idea if Rock Band instruments suck so bad is go buy a real one!

You don't even have to pay to play alongside songs AND their less likely to brake!

Great idea! You know what, I'm going to stop playing driving games too and start street racing. Oh oh, and maybe since I like FPS games I'll join the military in hopes they'll send me to a big war.

Honestly though, you understand you're on the rockband forums here right? Where people come to discuss, well... Rockband

Now, having said that, let's take your not so helpful post and make an idea out of it: Rockband 2, what if the only peripheral was a mic, and to play the game you stood in front of the mic with a real instrument.. This just occurred to me and I'm like wow, that would truely rock.

Fire

[stickshady]

I was ticked when my strat broke on week2 sincethen my game worked fine but thats nothing compared to 3 weeks ago I get the dreaded red ring O death.In the big picture I'd rather have one broken instrument when they send the relacement instantly than no xbox360 at all! I'm jeeving to play some Boston when it comes back!

[Firebreak]

Yeah that must suck man, I keep hearing about the ring of death and people having to have their 360s replaced 2 or 3 times. Thank god there isn't anything like that on the PS3. (Not 360 bashing here, it's a great system, just saying I feel your pain :))

Fire

Edit: What exactly is the ring of death, I keep picturing the ring from the movie "The ring" appearing on your screen, lol!

[HeadHunter67]

Also, think of all the money they're spending on warranty replacement equipment. That cost alone could have justified better quality out of the starting gates.
On this, I will certainly agree. It's a case of "never enough time/money to do it right, but always enough to do it over" that is prevalent in big business nowadays.

[CaptainFeral]

I'll say that Rock Band is a good game, but Harmonix sucks when it comes to controllers.
Opposite of what's going on with Activision now, I guess. GH3 sucks, but their controller is awesome because RedOctane.
Maybe Harmonix and RedOctane need to get back together?

[Firebreak]

One added note I wanted to make in this thread. On the flipside, the drumkit, aside from the poor pedal, the rest of it was done really well. I was actually quite happy with the quality of the pads and the rest of the controller. I understand some of the earlier run drumkits had issues, but were fixed in the later releases. My kit (Which I purchased about a month ago) has no issues at all so far, works perfectly, though I know that pedal will snap one day when I work myself up to expert.

Fire

[TehLawGiver]

yes, the strat sucks hardcore, but who cares? it's a great game...i just wish activision wasn't being babys and would release the goddamn compatibility PS3 patch...

[Steef]

That's a sad statement, isn't it? I mean, how great is a product when you're touting it's replacement warranty or failure mitigation as a feature?

You can't call the game itself junk, as stated in the THREAD TITLE.
However, feel free to call the instruments junk... some of them do break - and that's why I added that warranty thing in my last post ;)

[CaptainFeral]

Yeah, the instruments seem to have been designed by blind monkies.
There's a rubber band fix for the Strat, but even that doesn't make it perfect.