Any major differences between PS3 and 360 versions?

[cooking_mama]

Hi there, I'm new here. My sister and I are incredibly excited about Rock Band. I don't have a next-gen system (yet) and I was wondering if there were any differences between the PS3 and 360 version. I am leaning towards getting a PS3. I've read that the PS3 version will have a wireless guitar and that's about it.

[Phiromos]

for me personally...360=WIN!!! and its more affordable and has MUCH more games..you'll get more use out of it..but if you want the ps3 version..i say go for it

[PsycoCheerio]

It really comes down to the games and what your friends have if you play online with them. Which meant a 360 for me since all my buddies just graduated and it's a good way to still be able to play games with them...

[cooking_mama]

Is there not online play for PS3? I thought there was.

I know people with 360's and someone else with a PS3, but I'm only person who's excited for Rock Band. I'm sure that will change, though.

And as for games, my most anticipated games are Rock Band, Guitar Hero, and GTA, which are coming to both systems.

On a side note: Will the Rock Band guitar work with GHIII?

[TheRocker]

Major Differences ?
1.Well until now no ps3 Built has been seen , wich worries me.

[jq71586]

Is there not online play for PS3? I thought there was.

I know people with 360's and someone else with a PS3, but I'm only person who's excited for Rock Band. I'm sure that will change, though.

And as for games, my most anticipated games are Rock Band, Guitar Hero, and GTA, which are coming to both systems.

On a side note: Will the Rock Band guitar work with GHIII?


The PS3 does have online play and it is free unlike online play for the 360 where you will have to pay 40-50 dollars a year. They haven't shown the PS3 playing Rock Band yet, but when people show games, they show the 360 version I'm assuming because they have a larger install base and more people own that console. If you are just interested in video games online, go for the 360. But just be aware you will have to pay for online access because it is better than the PS3 at this point in time.

[TheRocker]

The PS3 does have online play and it is free unlike online play for the 360 where you will have to pay 40-50 dollars a year. They haven't shown the PS3 playing Rock Band yet, but when people show games, they show the 360 version I'm assuming because they have a larger install base and more people own that console. If you are just interested in video games online, go for the 360. But just be aware you will have to pay for online access because it is better than the PS3 at this point in time.
Yeah , you know if HMX really wanted to get creative they could create an awesome Home + RockBand interaction could defenitely have Virtual Concerts.

[Kylekillgannon]

Yeah , you know if HMX really wanted to get creative they could create an awesome Home + RockBand interaction could defenitely have Virtual Concerts.

Time makes many things happen...

[cooking_mama]

Well, I am not sure if anyone can answer this, but, will the PS3 or 360 (or both) Rock Band guitar be compatiable with GHIII? I love the track list for GHIII, but I just have to get the entire Rock Band set.

[Magnet]

Well, I am not sure if anyone can answer this, but, will the PS3 or 360 (or both) Rock Band guitar be compatiable with GHIII? I love the track list for GHIII, but I just have to get the entire Rock Band set.

There is absolutely no official information released yet about Strats working in GHIII or Les Pauls working in RB.

Also, in regard to the topic title: one huge difference. We haven't seen the PS3 version at all yet as far as we know. :p

[Keebler]

There is absolutely no official information released yet about Strats working in GHIII or Les Pauls working in RB.

Wrong. 3rd party guitars are confirmed to work in Rock Band.

[AVC808]

people suggest you go with the systems your friends have because online play will not cross platforms. so if you have the ps3 version but 3 of your friends have the 360, they'll have a trio, and you'll be solo.

[Magnet]

Wrong. 3rd party guitars are confirmed to work in Rock Band.

Only 3rd party guitars using the open-sourced communication that RB can understand. You cannot just interpret that to mean that any third-party guitar developed for any game will automatically be compatible with RB. There is absolutely no confirmation of the Les Paul using this open source requirement. Harmonix can only guarantee some backwards compatibility for older third-party guitars and for future guitars designed to work in Rock Band.

Les Paul guitars do not work in Rock Band until it's explicitly stated by Harmonix or Neversoft or Activision, etc. And it has not been stated yet. It's misleading to everyone reading these forums to claim that it has been confirmed.

[Rock_Starman]

Well if you've already got GH 1,2 and 80's on PS2 it's probably better to go with PS3,I think it's better anyway.

Besides have you seen the IGN 360 poll?:

What instrument will you play in Rock Band?
68.1% Halo 3
14.6% Drums
10.3% Guitar
3.6% Bass
3.2% Vocals

[JimNasium]

Apparently the PS3 bundle has wireless, and the 360 has wired. This is speculation though. Also you have to pay for Live to play RB online on the 360. The PS3 will be free. Other than that, I can't think of anything different. Possibly the 360 version will have achievements and the PS3 one won't

[Rock_Starman]

PS3 one might. Home/trophys should be out by then.

[thrdeye]

I bought a PS3 for rock band because I already have a PS2 library of games (including all the GH's) and I am also a huge Gran Turismo fan. Now that they've made the Logitech Driving Force Pro compatible with PS3, it was a no brainer for me.

If I was starting fresh, I would have had a hard time choosing the PS over the 360, simply b/c of price. However, I would probably still have ended up with the PS3 due to it's DVD/BR capability.

[logicalnoise]

The PS3 does have online play and it is free unlike online play for the 360 where you will have to pay 40-50 dollars a year. They haven't shown the PS3 playing Rock Band yet, but when people show games, they show the 360 version I'm assuming because they have a larger install base and more people own that console. If you are just interested in video games online, go for the 360. But just be aware you will have to pay for online access because it is better than the PS3 at this point in time.

The install base has a hand in it but it's actully because 360 is the lead platform for most devloeprs. That means a game is first developed for 360 and then the ps3 version is ported from that version.

[JimNasium]

The install base has a hand in it but it's actully because 360 is the lead platform for most devloeprs. That means a game is first developed for 360 and then the ps3 version is ported from that version.

Probably because the 360 has been out longer so developers are more familiar with it. Right?

[Redebo]

Probably because the 360 has been out longer so developers are more familiar with it. Right?

I tend to agree with you Gym.

Secondly, I own a PS3 and i use it for all types of entertainment, not just playing games.

[cakefoo]

I'm getting the PS3 version because it's been widely rumored the 360 bundle guitar is wired while the PS3's is wireless. In addition, wireless guitars for 360 will be $80, with the PS3 guitar being $60.

[Bakkster_Man]

I'm getting the PS3 version because it's been widely rumored the 360 bundle guitar is wired while the PS3's is wireless. In addition, wireless guitars for 360 will be $80, with the PS3 guitar being $60.

It's all a trade-off:

Cost of console: 360
Reliability of console: PS3
Peripheral cost: PS3 (allegedly)
Online community size: 360
Online play cost: PS3

[Tmidiman]

You know what's funny? When you don't see a PS3 version demoed it usually means the game will be delayed due to how hard the PS3 is to program games for. GTA IV, Stranglehold. Interesting.

[logicalnoise]

You know what's funny? When you don't see a PS3 version demoed it usually means the game will be delayed due to how hard the PS3 is to program games for. GTA IV, Stranglehold. Interesting.

You forgot the orange box as well

[TheRocker]

You forgot the orange box as well

You shouldn't say anything that about what you really dont know...

1st Ps3s sure they are a bit of a hassle to develop for but of course its a new console and devs aren't used to it
2nd The orange box is delayed because the Core team is developing the X360 and PC version the Ps3 version is being developed in UK.

[Bakkster_Man]

You shouldn't say anything that about what you really dont know...

1st Ps3s sure they are a bit of a hassle to develop for but of course its a new console and devs aren't used to it
2nd The orange box is delayed because the Core team is developing the X360 and PC version the Ps3 version is being developed in UK.

In any case, isn't that still an indictment of the PS3? They found it more important to have a PC and 360 release than a PS3 release. Development is focused on PC and 360, then ported to PS3...
when there's time...
by the guys in the UK...

[TheRocker]

In any case, isn't that still an indictment of the PS3? They found it more important to have a PC and 360 release than a PS3 release. Development is focused on PC and 360, then ported to PS3...
when there's time...
by the guys in the UK...

Yeah but thats because X360 is more Popular and has more owners than Ps3 of course.

[logicalnoise]

Yeah but thats because X360 is more Popular and has more owners than Ps3 of course.

I do know what I'm talking about. Porting to ps3 is harder than porting from it. Hence why it was outsourced to EA Uk. They didn't have the resources themselves to devote to the ps port. The PS3 isn't incredibly difficult work with but it is very different pretty much on every major level. Old developers liek Gabe newell and John carmack perfer the PC and 360 dev tools over the ps3. Because they learned to design on a single core CPU. PS3 has to designed specifically for to get good results(see FEAR and MADDEN 08). Your right in teh fcat taht 360 is teh lead platform because it's more popular and came out sooner.

[espher]

PS3 has to designed specifically for to get good results(see FEAR and MADDEN 08). Your right in teh fcat taht 360 is teh lead platform because it's more popular and came out sooner.

I can't wait to see good results happen for the PS3. I've been waiting for quite some time, since I want to get one for all of the RPGs I know are eventually coming out for it, but the software library so far has just been disappointment after disappointment (Lair, I'm looking at you).

[Young_Nastyman]

In any case, isn't that still an indictment of the PS3? They found it more important to have a PC and 360 release than a PS3 release. Development is focused on PC and 360, then ported to PS3...
when there's time...
by the guys in the UK...

It's more important because PC and 360 owners have been waiting longer for it (this is of course assuming, on their part, the majority of 360 owners had the original Xbox and played Half Life on there), this is the first Half Life title for sony (as far as i know)

[JasonBooth]

the 360 is also a multi-core processor machine, contrary to popular forum opinion. The bottom line is that the 360 is much easier to work with, and unless your game has some very specific CPU needs that can also be easily paralized, it's a better machine for most game needs. Ease of development translates directly into more time spent on making games good, instead of just making them work.

[jq71586]

But it's not like this is a difficult game to make. I mean, basically, it is just notes scrolling down a screen with things going on in the background. I'm not saying I know how to do it, just in comparison to other games it's easier. There is no reason to believe there will be a delay on the PS3. I'm going to say 90% of games that are shown at conventions in the US (Especially E3) that are on multiple platforms are shown on the 360 just because that is what most of the of the people own. For example, lets just say they show the game at that Tokyo game convention whenever that is, they would probably show it on the PS3 because that is the system that the majority owns over there.

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[toefer]

the 360 is also a multi-core processor machine, contrary to popular forum opinion.

In a sense, yes. The 360 has 3 Power Processing Elements (PPE), whereas the PS3 has 1 PPE and 7 Sequential Processing Elements (SPE).

Both multi-core, I guess, but still completely different setups.

It's been rumored that the 360 is already pushing toward its limits, whereas the PS3 obviously isn't (since a lot of devs don't understand how to utilize the SPEs). Obviously, thats good news, in the long run, for PS3, but Sony might lose to MS before it ever gets to that point.

To be fair, for all the crap 360 fans like to throw at the PS3 (for delaying their games, costing too much, whatever), they tend to overlook the weaknesses of their own system (GTA IV having to fit on a DVD-9...thanks for that).

Whatever system you have, if you're happy with it, then that's all that should matter.

Make rock, not war.

[cooking_mama]

Well, I just read that it's confirmed. PS3 version will come with the wireless guitar and the 360 version will come with a wired one.

[Bakkster_Man]

But it's not like this is a difficult game to make. I mean, basically, it is just notes scrolling down a screen with things going on in the background. I'm not saying I know how to do it, just in comparison to other games it's easier.

Not really. Timing is a HUGE issue for rhythm games, and it's usually one of the biggest problems when writing code. Sure, it might seem simple enough to code... until you actually sit down to do it.

That being said, I doubt the PS3 version will be delayed. Mostly because there is little need to push the PS3 Cell processor.

[JasonBooth]

It's been rumored that the 360 is already pushing toward its limits, whereas the PS3 obviously isn't (since a lot of devs don't understand how to utilize the SPEs). Obviously, thats good news, in the long run, for PS3, but Sony might lose to MS before it ever gets to that point.



Assuming your game needs more CPU, and that the computations you need to perform are easily broken into 6 different tasks that can run on 6 SPUs. However, in most cases, what developers need is extra fill rate. In fact, most of the tools being presented at GDC for the ps3 this year were about using the SPU's to optimize the graphics data to reduce overdraw (and thus free up more fill rate from the RSX). As a developer, I'd much rather spend resources focusing on the game than spending it optimizing for specific hardware, and thats relly my point - that every hoop you have to jump through to make the machine perform is time not spent on making your game better.

And personally, I don't think we've come any where near the limit on either system yet - people are still managing to squeeze more juice out of the ps2.