Blinded By Fear are you effin serious?

[Corona22]

holy sh*t that song is crazy hard. you betta be an expert real drummer to play that...... has anyone actually beatin it on expert? i just played it on hard and only got to 36%

[Vandyan]

Check this dude out. Make sure the floor directly under your jaw is clean and clear of sharp objects.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1kx20RZ0zY

[Corona22]

holy crap...... damn my jaw hurts that is just insane but i wanna see someone do it with two sticks lol

[davidshek]

Welcome to playing blast beats. :)

[Corona22]

ive never played drums in my life and i thought i was doing pretty good for only playin bout 2 months or so then this song came up and now i feel like a beginner again.... and what exactly is blast beats?

[davidshek]

ive never played drums in my life and i thought i was doing pretty good for only playin bout 2 months or so then this song came up and now i feel like a beginner again.... and what exactly is blast beats?

What you see in Blinded By Fear is called a "blast beat". The part that Gurn plays with 3 mallets in his video.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blast_beat

[A7x4RockBand]

Check this dude out. Make sure the floor directly under your jaw is clean and clear of sharp objects.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1kx20RZ0zY


why would my jaw drop for that.....it is so cheap and easy way of getting to that level instead of hardwork and practice! That is easier playing then RttH if you do that.

[Corona22]

can you play that song on expert A7x4?

[A7x4RockBand]

2 drumsticks on expert in practice mode 100% speed, 80% notes hit. It is just disgrace that someone could be using the 3 stick trick from mallet players and beat someone who is using 2 sticks (which takes alot more work to get to that level) and beat them.

To me it is like someone playing against each other, one on expert while the other is on easy and trying to get the highest percent correct. Im not a competitive player, but it isent amazing nor jaw dropping to do that cheap trick to play the song.


Just like dave said, welcome to blast beats. It is no way impossible, just building up speed. I noticed this today, play the last (it is toward the ending, maybe 2-4 sections before the outro) section of Green Grass and High Tides. It has the exact same beat just slowed down alot, play it till 100%. Then go to blinded by fear and slow it down and work your way up to 100% speed.

It took me about an hour of practicing to get the speed and coordnation down but I can now play it. To bad I have yet to find anyone online to play it with though.

[TheGreatKtulu]

2 drumsticks on expert in practice mode 100% speed, 80% notes hit. It is just disgrace that someone could be using the 3 stick trick from mallet players and beat someone who is using 2 sticks (which takes alot more work to get to that level) and beat them.

To me it is like someone playing against each other, one on expert while the other is on easy and trying to get the highest percent correct. Im not a competitive player, but it isent amazing nor jaw dropping to do that cheap trick to play the song.





I don't know if I'd go quite that far in calling it cheap or whatever. Even with the 3-stick method it's about equivalent to the hard note chart, with extra bass. You still need to have a good amount of skill to play it.

[Vandyan]

You also need to be able to handle the third stick deftly. Its not as easy as that guy makes it look.

[Tenorrocker]

Why would anyone want to really play this? It's just noise!!!! I mean every beat has a bass drum? I'm glad I didn't download this song.

[Vandyan]

You and me both but I dont see how bashing the song is relevant to the thread. Musical taste is completely subjective. To each their own.

[Tenorrocker]

You and me both but I dont see how bashing the song is relevant to the thread. Musical taste is completely subjective. To each their own.

True that.

It is impressive that someone can actually gold star this. Kudos to them.

[v1g1lance1]

why would my jaw drop for that.....it is so cheap and easy way of getting to that level instead of hardwork and practice! That is easier playing then RttH if you do that.

Yeah...I mean....Gurnkiller clearly has no skill at all </Sarcasm>

You really need to get over yourself. First the "no-one can beat me" and now this? :rolleyes:

[coolcool23]

Personally, I would not download this song. I would love to try it and have it, but forcing me to play through it on BWT would be stupid and so would having to delete an redownload it just for that purpose.

Three sticks wouldn't be that tough, only on the fils in the middle. I have no idea how you do that with two sticks.

[A7x4RockBand]

Yeah...I mean....Gurnkiller clearly has no skill at all </Sarcasm>

You really need to get over yourself. First the "no-one can beat me" and now this? :rolleyes:

I mentioned it is like playing RttH as in playing the 16th notes with two hands which makes is alot easier. I didnt flame and specific person other then saying it is cheap to use that to beat someone else at the song.

Also idk what your talking about in regards of the no one can beat me quote...if I did say that it was obvious sarcasm. There are plenty of people better than me.

[Ultimatum]

Check this dude out. Make sure the floor directly under your jaw is clean and clear of sharp objects.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1kx20RZ0zY

That's bull****, pure and simple.

I can play that with 2 sticks, hell I had the stamina and speed to play it after only a year of playing, it's not hard at all.

[Ultimatum]

Why would anyone want to really play this? It's just noise!!!! I mean every beat has a bass drum? I'm glad I didn't download this song.

Seeing as beats are 1, 2, 3 ,4 etc. RttH qualifies as "just noise" by your logic.

It's just 16th notes, straight 16ths on your main hand, and the others being divided between your snare hand and bass foot, it's an age old technique.

[dady5000]

Seeing as beats are 1, 2, 3 ,4 etc. RttH qualifies as "just noise" by your logic.

It's just 16th notes, straight 16ths on your main hand, and the others being divided between your snare hand and bass foot, it's an age old technique.
The problem seems to be building up enough stamina to do 16ths with one hand accurately.

Which isn't that easy....still possible though.

[Ultimatum]

The RB pads also have more rebound and require less force than an actual cymbal.

[A7x4RockBand]

While more sensitive than a cymbal it has less rebound in my opinion...

[Ultimatum]

With a cymbal closed, possibly, with it open, no.

It's not necessarily more sensitive, but since it triggers a sound everytime no matter how hard you hit the pad, it is somewhat easier since you don't have to focus playing over the loud guitars IRL.

[vsTerminus]

It is just disgrace that someone could be using the 3 stick trick from mallet players and beat someone who is using 2 sticks (which takes alot more work to get to that level) and beat them.

it isent amazing nor jaw dropping to do that cheap trick to play the song.



Alright. By royal decree (whining from A7x4) everything must now be done in the hardest possible way, because it makes you a true playa fo shizzle dizzle yo, and because creativity is bad and nobody should ever think of new ways to approach an old problem.

[el_panel0n]

thats not a blast beat. You'd have to be playing what the yellow and blue show on the red pad also.

[LesPaul5391]

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not me, but his info said he did it with two sticks

[v1g1lance1]

I mentioned it is like playing RttH as in playing the 16th notes with two hands which makes is alot easier. I didnt flame and specific person other then saying it is cheap to use that to beat someone else at the song.

Also idk what your talking about in regards of the no one can beat me quote...if I did say that it was obvious sarcasm. There are plenty of people better than me.

Actually, I realized I owe you an apology - you're not the poster I was thinking of who made the "No-one can beat me thread".

Sorry.

[davidshek]

thats not a blast beat. You'd have to be playing what the yellow and blue show on the red pad also.

That most certainly IS a blast beat. You do realize that there are several different kinds of blast beats, right? The one you're talking about has hits on snare, kick, and cymbal (ride or hi-hat) every time.

The one in this song is kick/cymbal, snare/cymbal, kick/cymbal, snare/cymbal. Still a blast beat.

It would still be a blast beat even if it was kick/cymbal, snare, kick/cymbal, snare.

Look it up wherever you want, about.com, wikipedia, wikihow, urban dictionary, metaltabs, they all say the same thing.

[PlaztikJeezus]

I wouldn't care for DLC like this every week, but this dlc release was frickin' awesome! Funny stuff. Can't wait to be good enough to ROCK IT!:D

[DarkEternal37]

Alright. By royal decree (whining from A7x4) everything must now be done in the hardest possible way, because it makes you a true playa fo shizzle dizzle yo, and because creativity is bad and nobody should ever think of new ways to approach an old problem.

I concur. From now on since I'm great at playing the guitar with four fingers, I'm going to do it with two. Cause apparently using all the tools you have to your advantage is unfair to those who might only have two fingers.

(No offense to those who only have 2 fingers. :()

[mortification8]

I concur. From now on since I'm great at playing the guitar with four fingers, I'm going to do it with two. Cause apparently using all the tools you have to your advantage is unfair to those who might only have two fingers.

Actually this has already been well established for Rock Band, you are allowed to play with only 29 fingers and 2 lousy drums.

:D

[DarkEternal37]

Dude, if I had 29 fingers I'd be sick at guitar.

5 Fingers on the Low Frets
5 Fingers on the High Frets
5 Fingers strumming
4 Fingers scratching me in places I get itchy.

10 More giving devil horns.

[MrMan5217]

HOW you play the song isn't important...just that you get it done. Playing with three mallets is a skill, just like playing with two mallets. It isn't "cheating". The three-mallet approach is used by drummers in all varieties of music. Are they "cheating".

I hate these guys that come in here hating on others and cutting down every thing everyone else does.

[ExDBigysmals]

So mr AK 47, what your saying is you cant beat it with two sticks yourself huh? Yea thats what I thought

[Ultimatum]

thats not a blast beat. You'd have to be playing what the yellow and blue show on the red pad also.

There are MANY kinds of blast beats, the original being how fast you can play single stroke rolls in synch.

Thomas Lang has a pretty good explanation of them.

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[Ultimatum]

HOW you play the song isn't important...just that you get it done. Playing with three mallets is a skill, just like playing with two mallets. It isn't "cheating". The three-mallet approach is used by drummers in all varieties of music. Are they "cheating".

I hate these guys that come in here hating on others and cutting down every thing everyone else does.

Except drummers don't play that pattern with 3 sticks, usually percussion instruments like marimba are played with more than 2 mallets.

A technique on the set using 2+ sticks is only used as showmanship as Assaf Seewi demonstrates in this video.

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[JesusSilencio]

HOW you play the song isn't important...just that you get it done. Playing with three mallets is a skill, just like playing with two mallets. It isn't "cheating". The three-mallet approach is used by drummers in all varieties of music. Are they "cheating".

I hate these guys that come in here hating on others and cutting down every thing everyone else does.

Although I agree that using three mallets takes a lot of skill and shouldn't be considered cheating, I can see why people would consider it cheating. Even though a lot of percussionists use three mallets sometimes, it is definitely wouldn't work to use it to play blast beats on a real drum set.

Anyway, props to anyone who can play blast beats like this the "real" way. You have massive chops, and should think about playing real music with your ability rather than just, well, showing off your massive chops.

[el_panel0n]

Yeah well, I preffer blast beats like this..

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[Vandyan]

zomg bert and ernie are noobs and they cheat! wtf that is so lame!

:D

[hamsterstyle]

Although I agree that using three mallets takes a lot of skill and shouldn't be considered cheating, I can see why people would consider it cheating. Even though a lot of percussionists use three mallets sometimes, it is definitely wouldn't work to use it to play blast beats on a real drum set.

Anyway, props to anyone who can play blast beats like this the "real" way. You have massive chops, and should think about playing real music with your ability rather than just, well, showing off your massive chops.

It's a video game, there's no such thing as cheating. If you can do it, you can do it. There isn't some requirement you have to follow. The instruction manual doesn't say "you have to play this with two sticks and two sticks only, or it doesn't count!" The same can really be said for playing live. If you can find a way to achieve the sound you're looking for by alternate means, so be it.

Now as a drummer, I will say that it's not being played the same way the drummer in the song played or recorded it, and there's no way you could "cheat" it that way live. But it's a video game...who cares what your method is?

I will also say that I can understand looking for alternate methods to get by if you're not an actual drummer. I've been playing for close to 10 years and found that song difficult to get through the first few times because I'm just not used to playing 16th notes at that many bpm's. I feel sorry for someone who isn't experienced and wants to get through the song, I'm sure it looks fairly impossible. But props to RockBand for putting something in there that difficult. Keeps things challenging.

[kevmaster2000]

I beat "Blinded by Fear" on expert drums, but I didn't do it the "real" way either.

I found that if you just take out every other yellow/blue during the super fast part (meaning only play yellow/blue on the bass drum kicks, not during the snare hits), you can still pass it easily. You certainly won't get five stars or anything, but it's not hard to beat, long as you can keep a steady beat.

"Run to the Hills" and "Blackened" (and to a lesser extent "The Perfect Drug") are still the hardest on drums, IMO. Took me many tries to beat those, and only three or four to figure out this "cheap" trick on "Blinded by Fear".