"Thanks quitter!"

[Superfro]

What do you do about folks quitting out of score duel/tug of war matches? The entire thing is getting completely out of hand lately. For example, I was only able to actually finish about 1 out of every 4 matches I played over this past weekend. (I'm sure the more people that get the game, the worse this kind of stuff will become.)

So what do you do when it happens to you?

I play on the 360, and I usually send the player a message along the lines of "thanks quitter". Sometimes I get a response, usually not. :rolleyes: I then try to do another match right away to try and get the same person. :p In the end, I just make sure I submit a negative player review so that hopefully they won't show up again when searching for opponents.

(PS - If you're reading this, and have gotten a message from Superfro33 for quitting a match, stop being a douche. ;))

[WhiffleBallTony]

It's not a huge deal. Your TrueSkill goes up whenever someone quits.

[Vandyan]

I dont play the score duel or tug of war, just not the competitive sort. That said, I suppose if I did Id be annoyed by that.

On the bright side, it seems like one of the best ways to sort the "cajones impaired" sore losers that take the game way too seriously out and get them on your avoid list. Who would want to play with people like that in any game.

[biggs1028]

It's is odd i haven't had some quit during score duel but it seems everyone else has

[Parodygm]

It's a rare instance that I feel like playing heads-up battles and it's almost always only with people on my friends list. I'll willingly play against people better than me, finish every song that comes up and happily take a 5-0 spanking. It's all good practice right?

For people that prefer this mode (and on the other console where there's actually a ranking system) I feel sorry that quitters aren't punished with an automatic loss. I'm much more of a fan of the co-op game myself.

[Seldomseen]

Since TrueSkill doesn't factor into PS3 matches, people have just a little less incentive to leave a losing game. In any case, I've only played a handful of Guitar/Vocal Score Duels, all of which I've won, and nobody ever walked out on me. Hopefully for them, it's all in good fun. I'd like to believe that if I were losing, I wouldn't quit the game unless I absolutely had to leave to room to take care of relevant real-world business.

[S1ckH4nds]

I just submit a negative player review / (Avoid This Player -> Game Conduct -> Left Game Early) and be done with it there and then. It's annoying, yeah, but they end up digging their own holes with that behavior -- or rather, they would if everyone did the same thing.

[Destnaru]

I have only seen it one time in "tug of war" on the PS3.
I suspect that it doesn't happen very often on the PS3 console.

[squiggerz]

I just submit a negative player review / (Avoid This Player -> Game Conduct -> Left Game Early) and be done with it there and then. It's annoying, yeah, but they end up digging their own holes with that behavior -- or rather, they would if everyone did the same thing.

I'm just the opposite...

I'm a trueskill addict these days (currently at 30), if somebody is a known quitter, I'll give them a positive review so I can get them more often. If it boosts my ratings beating somebody in the first 30 seconds of a song, I'll take it. It happens in about 1 out of 5 matches.

[S1ckH4nds]

Heh. Interesting theory. I like your gumption, kid.

[vsTerminus]

I get quitters all the time. Especially on the fun songs (I have never had anyone complete Flirtin With Disaster or GGaHT with me) so I usually send a "F*** You" along with a bad player review.

One guy responds with "I didn't quit"
I asked , "What happened then?"
He says, "I missed notes?"

We were playing GGaHT. EVERYONE misses notes on GGaHT.

The main reason I don't play score duel is become every time a hard (fun) song comes up, the other guy quits. The only songs I get to play all the way through are the really easy ones.

[Superfro]

I'm just the opposite...

I'm a trueskill addict these days (currently at 30), if somebody is a known quitter, I'll give them a positive review so I can get them more often. If it boosts my ratings beating somebody in the first 30 seconds of a song, I'll take it. It happens in about 1 out of 5 matches.

:p

That's hilarious.

[jcb231]

I have no problem if folks quit in the first few notes. What I hate is when they wait until the song is well underway, or almost done, before quitting. That's just rude. Really, really rude. Thanks for making me waste five or six minutes of my life on that beast of a Metallica track, just to have you quit like a pansy because you were losing. I always avoid those players and send them the standard "Why'd you quit?" message. I love it when my simple three word "Why'd you quit?" provokes them to send crazy hate speech and profanities back, because then I can report them.

If you're playing a game, losing from time to time is part of the experience. Get over it. Quitting is not the way to deal with your lack of skills. Maybe if you didn't quit so much you'd be better at the game.

[MattyJames]

Had my first "Quitter" this weekend in about 50 matches. I did the "Avoid This Player" option. I haven't really had a problem with it.....Yet.

[xerichx07]

What's the big deal, your rank goes up. If anything, you should submit a POSTIVIE review, so you can play with them more often. This will allow you to get your rank up even higher.t

[squiggerz]

What's the big deal, your rank goes up. If anything, you should submit a POSTIVIE review, so you can play with them more often. This will allow you to get your rank up even higher.t

Some people (not me, I'm with you) need to have the contest run from start to finish so they can annihilate their opponent, some just like to finish the song for the sake of hearing the song.

I figured that's what solo tour, band quickplay and the regular (non-ranked) player matches were for. Ranked matches are first and foremost about winning.

[Vandyan]

I always avoid those players and send them the standard "Why'd you quit?" message. I love it when my simple three word "Why'd you quit?" provokes them to send crazy hate speech and profanities back, because then I can report them.

Thats brilliant. I actually laughed out loud for real when I read that. Good show. :D


Some people (not me, I'm with you) need to have the contest run from start to finish so they can annihilate their opponent, some just like to finish the song for the sake of hearing the song.

I figured that's what solo tour, band quickplay and the regular (non-ranked) player matches were for. Ranked matches are first and foremost about winning.

I think most of the people that are driven nuts by this are the achievement whores that only care to get their pavlovian bell rung and then never play ranked matches of any sort again. God help anybody that gets in the way of their gamerscore.

[Josie]

What's the big deal, your rank goes up. If anything, you should submit a POSTIVIE review, so you can play with them more often. This will allow you to get your rank up even higher.t


Is it confirmed that you still get a win when somebody quits on you? Becasue I have had people quit on me and I see no change in the True skill rating after multiple quitters.

Also, when I was going for the 20 online wins acheivement, it only seemed to reckognize the games that got played from beginning to end instead, and not the ones where somebody left early.

Hopefully somebody from Harmonix will chime in and let us know what happens regarding these online matches and quitters.

[sothrowed4438]

It's is odd i haven't had some quit during score duel but it seems everyone else has


I havent had anyone quit on me, but I usually play with my PSN friends.

Get reliable friends, that dont quit.

[w00ba]

It kind of pisses me off, but once I got the two achievments for Score Duel and Tug-o-War I just stopped playing Ranked Matches. I like playing it with 3 other people, not just some guy who has the same instrument as me and will likely quit.

I'm not really into the competative part of Rock Band, but more into the community part.

[zakky_venom]

oh boy do i wish i could send them messages or bad feedback, they never show up in my players list.

feggetz.

[Vorral]

Most of the time, when I get a quitter, it's on the last two to five notes. One time, on Tom Sawyer, I had a guy quit on the very last note. Irritating? Yeah. Does it make me want to play them again and then report them as soon as the song starts? Yeah. Will I? Nah, too lazy. But, if they're going to quit, then I believe that they should get whatever Hammer of God punishment they deserve. I'm more than willing to lose to a better player, just so I can watch their Overdrive patterns.

[CCDaDon]

i don't really get quitting... i know its a video game so i don't get mad when i lose to someone...

[Fanible101]

Well I do "get it" to an extent. If you're losing badly a quarter way through, where the only way you could catch up was if the other player just simply stopped playing all together, you may not want to bother wasting your time with the rest.

It bugs me only when a person does it at the very last possible second. They're just deliberately trying to be a dick in that case.

With that being said, however, in TOW, I don't get it. People who quit a quarter way in or less. Unless it's like the LAST quarter of the song and you're being badly beat, there's far more opportunities to turn the game around in Tug of War than in Score Duel.

[Chthonic]

You ask me, quitting a match like that equals forfeiting the match, so it should be chalked up as a loss for the quitter.

Of course, it could be left up to the discretion of the remaining player, seeing as how the other person might have had to duck out for a valid reason. (Usually in the case of a friendly match, I suppose).

[mimic]

It's not a huge deal. Your TrueSkill goes up whenever someone quits.

Gotta love these idiots who claim it's not a big deal playing the first minute of a song and then it stops.

I'm not playing rock band intro.

People play to play the songs in their entirety. So YES quitting is a huge deal. I refuse to go back to online play when almost every time someone quits.

[Zechman]

I've observed that when someone quits on you, it does count as a win for your trueskill rating, but counts as a game-never-played for the streak achievements. After reading all this controversy about quitters, I made a point of writing down my wins, losses and quitters to see at what point the achievements would pop up.

Following a loss, it was after six winning games, the third of which was a quitter, I got the 5-in-a-row score duel achievement. So the quitter didn't break my streak, but also didn't add to my streak.

I suspect the problem is that the reverse may also be true: if you quit, it counts as a loss for trueskill, but doesn't count against you for the 5-in-a-row achievement, which is why people do it. Just my speculation. Since I now have both of the streak achievements, I can't easily put that hypothesis to the test.

This is all since the "Rock Band Store" patch, in case that makes any difference, and obviously on X360.

--Dwayne

[squiggerz]

Gotta love these idiots who claim it's not a big deal playing the first minute of a song and then it stops.

I'm not playing rock band intro.

People play to play the songs in their entirety. So YES quitting is a huge deal. I refuse to go back to online play when almost every time someone quits.

People play Player Matches to play songs in their entirety.

People play Band Quickplay to play songs in their entirety.

People play Ranked Matches to win.

If your opponent forfeits/quits for whatever reason, you win.

This isn't that hard of a concept to understand, is it?

And yes, I know there is an exception to the rule, people do play to get their achievements, but I don't think that's what we are talking about in this instance.

[mimic]

People play Player Matches to play songs in their entirety.

People play Band Quickplay to play songs in their entirety.

People play Ranked Matches to win.

If your opponent forfeits/quits for whatever reason, you win.

This isn't that hard of a concept to understand, is it?

And yes, I know there is an exception to the rule, people do play to get their achievements, but I don't think that's what we are talking about in this instance.

Spoken like a true quitter.

[Zechman]

I also must admit to "gaming the system" a bit: I always leave the complaint feedback for quitters, but I leave "Prefer this player" feedback only if I win. If I lose, I leave nothing.

I figure it'll gravitate toward matching me up with people I know I can beat. :o

It has the added benefit of seeing on my Players Met panel what each player did: smiley face = I won ; frowny face = quitter ; nothing = I lost. ;)

--Dwayne

[squiggerz]

Spoken like a true quitter.

Really? I mean, reaalllyyy? *tilts head to the side for dramatic effect*

Did you even read the post? If you've ever played me in ranked matches you would know that I've never quit, 99% of the time when I'm down by a huge deficit I'll still fight to the last note.

[mimic]

Really? I mean, reaalllyyy? *tilts head to the side for dramatic effect*

Did you even read the post? If you've ever played me in ranked matches you would know that I've never quit, 99% of the time when I'm down by a huge deficit I'll still fight to the last note.

Yet you have no problem with people quitting. You have no problem playing only parts of songs?

Quitting doesn't only happen in ranked matches. I went to player match to avoid them and it was just as bad.

I dunno, guess I'm just weird. I like playing the whole song win or lose.

[squiggerz]

Yet you have no problem with people quitting. You have no problem playing only parts of songs?

Quitting doesn't only happen in ranked matches. I went to player match to avoid them and it was just as bad.

I dunno, guess I'm just weird. I like playing the whole song win or lose.

Actually I prefer quitters, and I'll tell you why.

1. I win, they lose. That makes me happy :)

2. My trueskill goes up (sometimes), their's goes down. This makes me happy again. :)

3. I'd rather play a full song with somebody totally confident in their abilities and is a true challenge to me rather than beating somebody into the ground that we both know has no business playing on the same difficulty as me.

For instance, if I'm playing somebody that is say, a 10 trueskill, I'm currently at 31. They miss 10 or 15 notes in the first 45 seconds of a song and I don't miss any, I think it's honorable for them to concede defeat and bail out. It makes me happy to see them stop playing notes because I know they punked out to my greatness before the contest was even finished. :)

Of course a lot of those that bail can be attributed to bad connections, pets tripping over cords, power failure, terrorist attacks, etc.. but I fully intend to live in my little dream world and believe that they just start having a minor panic attack when they see the sheer precision in my abilities and ripped the power cord out of the wall. It's really all about my happiness in the end, isn't it? :D

Besides, when I get to the point that I want to play a song all the way through, I go back to my solo career and work on my high scores there.

Oh, word of advice, less quitters late at night... and on weekdays. I almost never get a quit during these times. But say on a Saturday afternoon, every other person I play quits.

[boogi]

Just curious, but I've had people quit with such regularity (maybe 30% of the time) that I've purposely missed notes if I started to pull ahead by too much. I figured that if I kept it close they would think they still had a shot and play the entire song. So far it's worked for the most part, except for that one time when I ended up losing because of my "strategy." Oh well.

[legaliyz]

Im so sick of quitters. for every 10 games i play people quit out of 8 of them. its making me sick of online play. F the quitters who shouldnt be playin on expert

[cromartie90000]

Quitters are annoying, but I don't really care. I don't even bother giving negative feedback. I love it when I get a quitter, then get matched up with them promptly afterwards, so I can beat them. (Or just have them quit again.)

What REALLY pisses me off, is when someone beats me, then gets matched up with me again, and quits when I'm winning.

This happened a weekend or two ago. I got matched up with a dude, we played a song, and he won. We got matched up AGAIN next song. This time he won again. My fault, my pinky finger ****ed up and I missed a couple of notes. I accept this. I stayed and took the loss. No big deal win some lose some.
We get matched up a THIRD time. At the END of the song we're pretty much even. I take the lead by a couple thousand points. ****ing guy quits.
I'm thinking WHAT THE FUUUCK?!

So I avoid him.

Same thing happens with the next guy. We played two ranked matches. He won the first, I was winning the second and he quit.

THAT's the kind of **** that pisses me off. ****terheads that will play to the end of the song if they are winning, but quit if you beat them back.

A few weeks back I got matched up with the SAME guy 6 times in a row. 5 times I annihilated the guy. The 6th time he quit. I let it slide. I could imagine the frustration of not only losing 5 matches in a row, but losing 5 matches in a row to the same person. I'm not saying it's OK to quit a match, but I felt kinda sorry for him. : p