Tiny Rumour NWOIOT Part 2

[sushi111]

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=938870&topic=38147214

Well we pretty much all knew that this song was in the game, but do you believe it?

[battle_axe_of_doom]

god i hope not

[Supergeek]

Would be sweet if it's true.

[sushi111]

god i hope not

Why not?

Its a catchy and classic song. Im not a huge fan, but it makes tons of sense in RB

I can almost gurantee its in the game.

[MrMet2087]

i wanted free bird in the game as my first choice but since its in GH2 that was very unlikly so ill just hope for DLC someday, but my other choice would have been this song, so if its true im happy

[battle_axe_of_doom]

i'll give you the simple answer : i hate the song along with lynrd skynrd

[Kang_Zircon]

I don't know... So, this supposedly from the bus tour? Has anyone on these boards made it to the tour yet?

[masterx1918]

Without clicking the link or reading your posts i'm assuming it's Sweet Home Alabama? I remember a person posting on the gamefaq's board a while ago when the game was first announced saying they play tested the game, including the songs Won't Get Fooled Again, Welcome to the Jungle, Paranoid and Sweet Home Alabama. I really hope this isn't true, Sweet Home Alabama isn't really a good rock band choice as it's piano heavy.

[Xzyliac]

Please no. Maybe because I'm not fond of Lynard Skynard or, ya know, racism.

[battle_axe_of_doom]

is this song actually racist?? i never cared to pay attention to wut these hicks had to say in their lyrics except that this song has some sort of a cheap shot against the legendary neil yougn which i will never condone since neil young dominates all of your souls

[Eman311]

Why not?

Its a catchy and classic song. Im not a huge fan, but it makes tons of sense in RB

I can almost gurantee its in the game.

I don't know man, I mean I love the band, but that song is really lame and overplayed.

I would prefer a bunch of other songs by them, but I guess i wouldn't mind.

What year is that from?

[sushi111]

Please no. Maybe because I'm not fond of Lynard Skynard or, ya know, racism.

Yeah Im not a big racist fan either, but its just a song. Its not like half way through the song theres the lyrics:

"Get out of my contree Jews n Blacks!"

I know what you mean though.

I personally do not like the song, but I cant think of any reason that it wouldnt fit in RB. I wish we could get Alman Brothers instead though.

[espher]

Please no. Maybe because I'm not fond of Lynard Skynard or, ya know, racism.

Uh... what?

[masterx1918]

sweet home alabama is not racist. just because it's a southern influenced song doesn't mean it's racist

[Eman311]

Uh... what?

Som eof the lyrics could be construed as racist, but I doubt it was the intention.

[espher]

Some of the lyrics could be construed as racist, but I doubt it was the intention.

I'd love to know which ones.

I'd argue you'd really have to be reaching for that one, unless you've got different lyrics for it than I do. :3

[sushi111]

Something about the govener being true and the fact that the governer was racist as hell.

Something like that. Im not really sure

[Eman311]

In conjunction with the defense of the South, the song contains political references which have caused controversy, particularly this verse:

In Birmingham, they love the governor
Now we all did what we could do
Now Watergate does not bother me
Does your conscience bother you?
Tell the truth

Some deny the song expresses support for Wallace's politics, interpreting the lyrics as saying that the band did all they could do to keep Wallace out of office. They argue that a jeer "Boo, boo, boo!" can be heard after the line "In Birmingham, they love the governor" and they interpret this as an attack on Wallace. In 1975, Van Zant said: "The lyrics about the governor of Alabama were misunderstood. The general public didn't notice the words 'Boo! Boo! Boo!' after that particular line, and the media picked up only on the reference to the people loving the governor" (Ballinger 2002:78). Footage of concerts where they performed the song also confirms the presence of this line (Lyve from Steeltown). Although again this is an area for contention, particularly when regarding the lines "Sweet home Alabama, Oh sweet home baby, Where the skies are so blue, And the governer's true."

[Xzyliac]

Yeah. I mean the effing cover has the confederate flag.

Linky of boo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_Home_Alabama%28song%29)

[Eman311]

In case you don't know about Wallace...

George Corley Wallace Jr. (August 25, 1919 ? September 13, 1998), was a United States politician who was elected Governor of Alabama as a Democrat four times (1962, 1970, 1974 and 1982) and ran for US President four times, running as a Democrat in 1964, 1972, and 1976, and as the American Independent Party candidate in 1968. He is best known for his pro-segregation attitudes during the American desegregation period, which he modified after the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, arguing that it was better for him to be governor while the schools were being desegregated than for someone else. Wallace was so adamant in his belief in segregation that he opposed a federal mandate in 1963 to allow African-Americans to attend school with Caucasians.

[espher]

Okay, I guess I just always heard that and assumed the line was a little facetious. I wasn't aware it had been taken another way.

Carry on!

[Eman311]

Yeah. I mean the effing cover has the confederate flag.

Linky of boo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_Home_Alabama%28song%29)

Purely shows their support of the South, which is what that flag has come to represent, instead of the values of the Confederacy.

[masterx1918]

.....like what? sweet home alabama is not racist in any way and if you think it could be interpreted to be racist then you're crazy.

[Xzyliac]

When I lived in North Carolina (where I was born), South Carolina, and Georgia let me say the values of the Confederacy are alive and well.

[Eman311]

When I lived in North Carolina (where I was born), South Carolina, and Georgia let me say the values of the Confederacy are alive and well.

That's true anywhere, but yea more so in the south.

[Redebo]

When I lived in North Carolina (where I was born), South Carolina, and Georgia let me say the values of the Confederacy are alive and well.

Although I've never lived in GA (my mother did) I can attest to what you're saying being the truth.

[Rev0lver]

yet another example of harmonix picking popularity over good and fun songs, making us pay for the latter.

[Xzyliac]

I would have preferred the Allman Brothers.

Let me say I don't hate the song because I believe it's racist (and I do). I just generally don't like it.

In fact I didn't even consider it racist until a friend of mine with a racist father brought it up like two months ago.

[sushi111]

yet another example of harmonix picking popularity over good and fun songs, making us pay for the latter.

Yet another example of a niche metal fanboy expecting all their favorite songs in the game, over mostly great and popular songs, expecting the majority to love the former.

[Xzyliac]

Everyone wants what they want. Big deal.

Don't ***** about *****ing.

[Kang_Zircon]

Yeah. I mean the effing cover has the confederate flag.

I don't think the Confederate flag had as strong of a racist connotation back then as it does now. At least, I thought nothing of it until people started demanding flags be taken down and school names be changed in the 90s.

I would have preferred Gimme Three Steps, though.

[DarK_AssassiN]

I'm not a big fan of this song, but I'm glad that Harmonix is putting some variety into the game. I won't play this one much (who knows, it may be a lot of fun though XD) but I will definitely give it a shot.

[Sons_of_Kyuss]

That's true anywhere, but yea more so in the south.

You are deluding yourself if you think that the South is the only place where there are a lot of racists, or that there are more there simply because it is...THE SOUTH.

[Pluto2493]

i'll give you the simple answer : i hate the song along with lynrd skynrd


First of all, whenever someone spells "LYNYRD SKYNYRD" Wrong, god kills a kitten. Second of all, not the greatest song for skynyrd in my opinion, but hey, it's skynyrd. And finally, I know you guys have your opinion and I have my own, but Lynyrd Skynyrd is the greatest f'ing band ever.

[Cr1ckt]

Half of the songs that are released today are much more offensive than Sweet Home Alabama ever was. That being said, this song has a great guitar part, and would make a good addition to Rock Band. Additionally, considering the fact that Harmonix has said repeatedly that they will have Southern Rock since they announced the damn game, and since we have yet to get a Southern rock song on the list, I think it is highly likely that this song is in.

[Xzyliac]

I don't think the Confederate flag had as strong of a racist connotation back then as it does now. At least, I thought nothing of it until people started demanding flags be taken down and school names be changed in the 90s.

I would have preferred Gimme Three Steps, though.

Interesting point. Anyone clarify 70s feelings to Confederate flags please? Seriously.

[Rev0lver]

Yet another example of a niche metal fanboy expecting all their favorite songs in the game, over mostly great and popular songs, expecting the majority to love the former.

I don't consider myself a metal fanboy. I love all kinds of music, it's just that the sheer 33:0 ratio of popular songs to something else annoys me.

Honestly, the way this game is going so far isn't at all attracting anybody but classic and 90's fanboys.

[Xzyliac]

Half of the songs that are released today are much more offensive than Sweet Home Alabama ever was.

And that makes it...better?

Brilliant.

[Sons_of_Kyuss]

Interesting point. Anyone clarify 70s feelings to Confederate flags please? Seriously.

Some people in the south do equate the Confederate flag to being proud of their heritage. That is all it is to most people. Same as in the 70's as it is now in the 00's. And yes, there are racists who are going to use it to promote their views.

I personally don't see the point in using the flag, even though I have Confederate and Union soldiers who fought in the Civil War in my family. I see the Confederate flag as more of a war time banner...not a national symbol, even though I know it was the national flag of the Confederacy. I also see no point in venerating the Confederate flag, just for that purpose. There was no reason for a Civil War, but it happened. Forget about the Confederate flag if you want, or venerate it if you feel it shows your family had young men die in that horrible war. It is your right, but you aren't going to be able to convince most people of anything. Everyone thinks they know the truth in every situation, and everyone else is wrong.

My personal opinion is that I don't have to fly the flag to be proud of the soldiers who risked their lives, and died on the Confederate side of my family. And I am just as proud of the Union soldiers in my family. My pride is in the fact that they were soldiers, and would give their lives, just as I'm proud of my uncle who went to Korea, my dad who went to Vietnam, and another uncle who went to the Persian Gulf. It isn't for any political, or social reason. Soldiers are soldiers...

It's kinda like the swastika. Hitler wasn't the first to use that symbol either, you know, but it is now tainted with his Anti-Semitic stain.

[Xzyliac]

You know I'm black and it just may be me.

I see what you mean about the flags and differing views though. Yeah I think that just comes with any major historical event like the Civil War.

[masterx1918]

I don't consider myself a metal fanboy. I love all kinds of music, it's just that the sheer 33:0 ratio of popular songs to something else annoys me.

Honestly, the way this game is going so far isn't at all attracting anybody but classic and 90's fanboys.
then don't buy the game. Stop complaining every time a song is announced. You're being amazingly selfish if you expect every song in this game to be by only YOUR favorite artists, which quite frankly don't reach out to nearly as big of an audience as Sweet Home Alabama does. Sad but true but Sweet Home Alabama and Lynyrd Skynyrd has more of a fan base than whatever band/song you want in this game. Stop *****ing just because your favorite bands aren't announced yet.

[tf5_bassist]

is this song actually racist?? i never cared to pay attention to wut these hicks had to say in their lyrics except that this song has some sort of a cheap shot against the legendary neil yougn which i will never condone since neil young dominates all of your souls

so far, this is the only post in this thread which is worth quoting.

Neil Young owns.

[Electric_Zen]

I don't have any reason to believe that Lynyrd Skynyrd had racist intent when they wrote that song. But there is definitely a group of people who use that song to validate their "South will rise again!" views. It's not a song I'm crazy about singing to get through the vocal campaign.

[masterx1918]

Sweet Home Alabama is not racist

You guys are friggin crazy for thinking that it is. The only people that think that it's crazy are people who are fixated that everyone and everything in the south is racist. The confederate flag means nothing, it's just a symbol of the south. Just because it used to be linked to slavery means nothing.

[Rock_Starman]

I love this song. Never found it to be racist.

[ThePaska]

Sweet Home Alabama? That would be pretty sweet, I hope it is in the game, it would certainly be fun to sing with a bunch of people and stuff.

[Supergeek]

I read about the Neil Young comment recently, coincidentally enough.

Anyway, the Neil Young comment was in response to Neil Young criticising Southerners for being racist, I believe. Their response, saying they don't need Neil Young, could just be a statement that Southerners don't like being lumped together as a group and typecast, but I'm just hypothesizing.

Saying "all Southerners are racist" is a bigoted as being a bigoted Southerner. Some people used to call this "reverse discrimination" but that's a non sequitur, like jumbo shrimp. Discrimination is discrimination; just because it's a large group instead of a minority doesn't make it special.

And in response to someone who said songs today are just as bad; yes, I completely agree with you. You don't see a lot of anti-black sentiment in the media because that's taboo these days, but there's a lot of other racist, classist, elitist, sexist, and misogynistic sentiments floating around, especially in music.

None of it's right, but it IS something we have to face in ourselves, and music can be about facing your demons. Music doesn't have to be about simplistic talk-show pablum like your girlfriend cheated on you or generic "rage against the man!" credos or nobody loves me emo bull****.

[Rev0lver]

then don't buy the game. Stop complaining every time a song is announced. You're being amazingly selfish if you expect every song in this game to be by only YOUR favorite artists, which quite frankly don't reach out to nearly as big of an audience as Sweet Home Alabama does. Sad but true but Sweet Home Alabama and Lynyrd Skynyrd has more of a fan base than whatever band/song you want in this game. Stop *****ing just because your favorite bands aren't announced yet.

I never expected the game to be filled with my favorite artists, its just that RB needs more variety. So far they have reached out to only a couple types of music lovers. Stop *****ing because your favorite artists ARE in the game. It's amazingly selfish to love an announced song and tell anybody who doesn't like your music to get the **** out.

[masterx1918]

you're kidding, right? Rock Band's song list is amazingly variant thus far. If you don't think so then you have to be crazy. And i'm not *****ing that my favorite artists are in the game, because I haven't yet. I'm satisfied with the song list and I haven't complained once about my favorite artists (AC/DC, Led Zeppelin, Iron Maiden) not being in the game yet. If you don't like the song list then don't buy the game and stop trying to argue with me over nothing. I'm just sick of seeing you post the same complaint every time a song that's not of you're preference is announced.

[Bakkster_Man]

I never expected the game to be filled with my favorite artists, its just that RB needs more variety. So far they have reached out to only a couple types of music lovers. Stop *****ing because your favorite artists ARE in the game. It's amazingly selfish to love an announced song and tell anybody who doesn't like your music to get the **** out.

Well this is worth repeating:


Not really. RB's variety so far is amazing.

I mean we have some of the greatest alt Rock (Pixies, Radiohead, Weezer, Smashing Pumpkins)
Some of the greatest grunge (Soundgarden, Nirvana, STP)
Some of the greatest metal (Metallica, Black Sabbath)
Some of the greatest glam (Bon Jovi, KISS)
Some of the greatest funk rock (Faith No More, RHCP)
Some of the greatest Hip Hop (Beastie Boys)
Some of the greatest modern hits (Ok Go, Jet)
Some of the greatest garage rock (Strokes, Hives)
Some of the greatest punk (Ramones, The Clash)
And some of the greatest classic rock (The Who, Rolling Stones, Deep Purple)

Anyone that is complaining is being awfly selfish

It might not be the metal that YOU want, but to say they aren't reaching out is a very telling statement. If you had anyone else in mind, you would realize that they ARE reaching out, just maybe not to you exactly.

Besides, most metal would suck donkey balls on vocals and bass, and even on drummers who aren't kind on having seizures or flailing like an ADHD 3rd grader. Nothing against the music, but it's not the goal of RB. Either wait for the DLC or get GH3.

[masterx1918]

and then you can add southern rock (Mississippi Queen, Sweet home alabama) on top of that

[TheWolf619]

Another great addition to the song list. Two more Months!!

[Rev0lver]

as mentioned before, all of that is classic rock, classic metal, classic punk, etc. the only others they have are grunge and a couple modern mainstream songs.

[espher]

as mentioned before, all of that is classic rock, classic metal, classic punk, etc. the only others they have are grunge and a couple modern mainstream songs.

This man is absolutely correct.

Just because they have a bunch of different genres of music, that doesn't mean they're reaching out by offering different genres of music.

[Supergeek]

This man is absolutely correct.

Just because they have a bunch of different genres of music, that doesn't mean they're reaching out by offering different genres of music.
Haha, you deserve a beer for that comment.

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[Rev0lver]

what i meant by that was the only non-classic types of music. you guys are ****ing retarted. hmx chooses an old popular metal band and goes "look! we're metal!" and all you guys think the setlist should contain now is more bands like kansas, ac/dc, and led zeppelin. Look, don't get me wrong, i love pretty much every sub-genre of rock, but this is just too much. they try to put in modern music, and all they do is put in the crappiest music of this era without going into the zone of fall out boy+P!ATD(not that RHCP sucks, but their old stuff pwns the song on this game).

[Bakkster_Man]

This man is absolutely correct.

Just because they have a bunch of different genres of music, that doesn't mean they're reaching out by offering different genres of music.

Well, they need to balance three goals:
1) Accessibility (people recognize the songs)
2) Fun to play (for everyone if possible)
3) Variety

Unfortunately, I think you will be disappointed if the songs you want in the game are not recognizable and fun to play. Is that HMX's fault? No, it's yours.

[masterx1918]

wow revolver, you honestly have no idea what you're talking about, do you? You just argued that this game has no variety of music, and you go on to use an example that shows that the game DOES have a variety of music.

[admanimal]

People can whine about the track list all they want, but the fact is that your average joe videogamer (which includes myself) is going to pick up the game and be like, sweeet I know/love at least half of these songs. If you want to criticize Harmonix for trying to actually sell copies of the game and have it be successful, go right ahead.

[Rev0lver]

wow revolver, you honestly have no idea what you're talking about, do you? You just argued that this game has no variety of music, and you go on to use an example that shows that the game DOES have a variety of music.

Did you read my ****ing last post? Are you that stupid? I just said all the game has is classic music plus a couple new bands that aren't anything special at all. Did you ever play Guitar Hero 2? They put more obscure bands in the main setlist such as The Sword and Lamb Of God(not really obscure, but not mainstream) and it worked out great. Unfortunately, all HMX wants to go for now is big names over fun songs.

[TheRocker]

Another great addition to the song list. Two more Months!!

Yeah :) my whole family loves this game :D

[jq71586]

Did you read my ****ing last post? Are you that stupid? I just said all the game has is classic music plus a couple new bands that aren't anything special at all. Did you ever play Guitar Hero 2? They put more obscure bands in the main setlist such as The Sword and Lamb Of God(not really obscure, but not mainstream) and it worked out great. Unfortunately, all HMX wants to go for now is big names over fun songs.

With all due respect, Freya was not a fun song. You take that back right now. Laid To Rest was fun, but not Freya. Take it back.

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PSN - jq71586 - looking for PS3 friends.

[Rev0lver]

i didn't think it was that fun either, but at least hmx made a decision to put a pretty unknown band in the main list and you can't say it negatively affected gh2's sale

[admanimal]

There's no reason to put lesser known bands/songs in the main setlist anymore. The main setlist should satisfy the masses and there's DLC for more obscure bands.

[scarecrow521]

Of course, if it wasn't very fun, then it didn't POSITIVELY affect their sales either, did it?

[masterx1918]

revolver, you are an idiot. i'm sorry but you really do not know what you're talking about. How do you know Rock Band isn't going to have "obscure" (whatever that means) choices of music? There's still 11 more songs left to announce, not to mention a plether or bonus songs. Why don't you wait until the full song list is revealed to draw conclusions. And the game going for big name bands is obvious why: it speaks out to the bigger audience. Do you think a consumer is going to want to buy a game with a playlist highlighted by Freya, Matthew Sweet and The Pretenders? And saying the song list doesn't have a variety of music is a joke.

[jq71586]

I can see the commercial now.....

Announcer starts....

"New to the Rock Band franchise, The Sword DLC featuring "Freya". Pound away at the same 3 note pattern for one and a half minutes. Feel the excitement."

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PSN - jq71586 - looking for PS3 friends. :cool:

[Rev0lver]

revolver, you are an idiot. i'm sorry but you really do not know what you're talking about. How do you know Rock Band isn't going to have "obscure" (whatever that means) choices of music? There's still 11 more songs left to announce, not to mention a plether or bonus songs. Why don't you wait until the full song list is revealed to draw conclusions. And the game going for big name bands is obvious why: it speaks out to the bigger audience. Do you think a consumer is going to want to buy a game with a playlist highlighted by Freya, Matthew Sweet and The Pretenders? And saying the song list doesn't have a variety of music is a joke.

I never said they wont, i was saying the way this is going it is looking that way. And i would hate a setlist containing that, which is why i request challenging and fun songs.

[masterx1918]

well let's wait until you play the game to decide what songs are fun or not.

[espher]

Perhaps it says something about the songs chosen that they offer plenty of action on all four types of play in addition to being very popular and 'mainstream'.

Can you suggest some 'modern metal' that gives you decent and accessible play with all four aspects of play?




Of course, I might be biased since I feel the biggest difference between 'classic' and 'modern' metal is that I can understand the lyrics in 'classic' metal and the guitar and drum work 'classic' metal feels less like someone trying to show how fast he can swing his arms and flick his wrist and more like rock with a heavier sound, but I do enjoy some modern metal and I just can't see how it would work well in this game (nor can my metal-loving friends who have lukewarm reception to this soundtrack).

:p

[IErrantVentureI]

*Now, back to the original point to this thread!*


I have no problem with this song if it is indeed in. I think it appeals to the mainstream audience a lot more than it would to some of us. Yeah, it's overplayed, but this song will catch regular people's attention. I bet on it.

[dirty_bird32]

This is an interesting read about Lynyrd Skynyrd/Neil Young...

http://www.thrasherswheat.org/jammin/lynyrd.htm

[Schultzy]

That's a good song. I can dig it.
DLC album with Free Bird, perhaps? :rolleyes:

[TheTogfather]

This is an interesting read about Lynyrd Skynyrd/Neil Young...

http://www.thrasherswheat.org/jammin/lynyrd.htm

Just skimmed it a bit, looks real interesting. I'll read it closer tomorrow when I'm bored at work.

As for the great debate...I can see that Rock Band will have only one choice...if they include Sweet Home Alabama...then they'll have to include Southern Man as well. Or any Young really.

Twould Rawk!

[Tendoza]

Sweet Home Alabama, cool. Another nice song.

[jlc510]

I think HMX is doing the right thing by putting in better known songs in this game. People aren't going to drop $200 or $60 for that matter for a bunch of songs they don't know, especialy with GH3 promising over 70 songs, and having the great set list that they have. If there's anything we can speculate to be in the DLC, it's going to be a lot of lesser known songs that are more fun to play.

[Magnet]

Sweet Home Alabama is very likely to be in the game. Overplayed, yes, but it would still probably be fun to play.

As for irritating, persistent people complaining about HMX choosing popular songs...

How much fun do you think the game would be for the singers if they didn't know the songs at all? Talk about a party killer. The main setlist NEEDS to be mainstream or the game will not be as fun for most people and it won't sell as well. DLC is going to address obscure songs, and it's unreasonable to expect the main setlist to contain any of them. It worked in Guitar Hero II because you only had to hit the scrolling notes as they passed through frets. In Rock Band, the singers need to have heard the songs before or they'd just be wasting their time and the game wouldn't be pick-up-and-play. They'd have to practice the songs beforehand instead of jumping in and rocking out right away. DLC and bonus songs will allow singers to learn new songs, but the main game needs to have recognizable songs for the kind of instant fun and accessibility that the game is aiming for. Rock Band would be a terrible party game if 80% of the songs were by no-name bands who are "better" than the popular stuff. It's absolutely ridiculous to hope for the same presence of obscure music that was in Guitar Hero II to be in Rock Band. The singing in Rock Band is more integral to the game than some of the people here are willing to admit.

[Electric_Zen]

Perfectly said, Magnet. Please cut and paste into the n00b guide.

[TheTogfather]

Perfectly said, Magnet. Please cut and paste into the n00b guide.

Agreed. Nicely thought out. I had been thinking about it purely from a 'appeal to as many people as possible to get the most possible sales' aspect...kinda didn't think about the whole singing portion (which is really odd since that's what I plan to focus on mostly).

[mobhit101]

Perfectly said, Magnet. Please cut and paste into the n00b guide.

Agreed as well. Stick this in the n00b guide!

I think Sweet Home Alabama would be an awesome song for this game. EVERYONE knows it because it has been played to death but it's going to be a different take on it than we are all used to. Instead of hearing it on the radio for the billionth time and being like, "dear god change the channel!," you'll actually get to be a part of it.

on a side note I would love to have "Give Me Back My Bullets" or "That Smell" for DLC eventually...

[FatWilma]

this song is a rock anthem, it should be in the game. and if its true, i've got 12 points in the song prediction game, still holding down the top spot!

[Brock_Landers]

This thread = 90% BAWWWW

However, I'd like to say that this song is definitely recognizable at least. I've got two 18 year olds and one 21 year old in this house with me, and this, Metallica, and maybe the Nirvana song is all that they're gonna know.. (maybe a couple of the really modern tracks they'll recognize, but they won't know the lyrics or anything)

This is probably the next best thing to some GnR, in terms of pulling the casual young 'uns to the microphone, anyway.

[Rev0lver]

Sweet Home Alabama is very likely to be in the game. Overplayed, yes, but it would still probably be fun to play.

As for irritating, persistent people complaining about HMX choosing popular songs...

How much fun do you think the game would be for the singers if they didn't know the songs at all? Talk about a party killer. The main setlist NEEDS to be mainstream or the game will not be as fun for most people and it won't sell as well. DLC is going to address obscure songs, and it's unreasonable to expect the main setlist to contain any of them. It worked in Guitar Hero II because you only had to hit the scrolling notes as they passed through frets. In Rock Band, the singers need to have heard the songs before or they'd just be wasting their time and the game wouldn't be pick-up-and-play. They'd have to practice the songs beforehand instead of jumping in and rocking out right away. DLC and bonus songs will allow singers to learn new songs, but the main game needs to have recognizable songs for the kind of instant fun and accessibility that the game is aiming for. Rock Band would be a terrible party game if 80% of the songs were by no-name bands who are "better" than the popular stuff. It's absolutely ridiculous to hope for the same presence of obscure music that was in Guitar Hero II to be in Rock Band. The singing in Rock Band is more integral to the game than some of the people here are willing to admit.

i never recalled saying i think the entire setlist should be my music, i'm just saying something else should get recognition.

[masterx1918]

something else that's only by your favorite artists?

[Brock_Landers]

DLC is going to address obscure songs

Theoretically, my boy. Theoretically. I think it's understandable for those displeased with the core setlist to be wary of DLC solving their problems, when there's nothing to say that it won't continue the same trend as the retail disc.

I, of course, expect HMX will come through on that side.. but at the same time I'm not ruling anything out. There is afterall, business partners to appease.

[sushi111]

Theoretically, my boy. Theoretically. I think it's understandable for those displeased with the core setlist to be wary of DLC solving their problems, when there's nothing to say that it won't continue the same trend as the retail disc.

Whos Next and Nevermind. Some of those songs are kinda obscure

[Brock_Landers]

Well noted, but the bands are still pretty well known.. My point was probably going beyond the specific quote which mentioned just obscure tracks by a specific artist.. and more so as a counter-argument to the all encompassing "You don't like the majority of these types of bands/genres picked? Just wait for DLC, then; it'll be like a candy covered castle!" rebuttal.

I should have been more clear heh

[blue_dragonzero]

Did you read my ****ing last post? Are you that stupid? I just said all the game has is classic music plus a couple new bands that aren't anything special at all. Did you ever play Guitar Hero 2? They put more obscure bands in the main setlist such as The Sword and Lamb Of God(not really obscure, but not mainstream) and it worked out great. Unfortunately, all HMX wants to go for now is big names over fun songs.

Yeah! Because Freya was an f'ing awesome song to play!!!!!!
Yeah right

[MeleeMan]

Woah! Look, I'm the second poster on that GameFAQs thread!

[masterx1918]

I doubt unknown artists will be DLC, just because no one will buy them. for instance even if 1 or 2 unkown bands were on the Rock Band disc, people would still buy the game. People probably wouldn't buy the DLC though.

[Syko360]

If Chuck Norris said it is has to be true.