What do you think about Nirvana?

[marcoduran]

I believe that Curt Cobain is the best rock singer has the world ever had.

I like his style, his songs, his music... For me... Cobain is still alive! :cool:

Marc

[SmokaCola]

Nirvana should of been an instrumental band. Kurt's singing was horrible.

[battle_axe_of_doom]

horribly awful band.

[cmg4894]

The two posts above me don't know what they are talking about. The band changed music. Without them we wouldn't have a lot of the late 90's rock and music today would be a lot different. Nirvana was and will always be one of the best groups of all time. Always in the top 10.

[battle_axe_of_doom]

stfu this band blows and i'm entitled to think so

[Desensitized]

Extremely overrated musically and lyrically. Dave's a great drummer and I like a few songs (like the one in RB) but they aren't that special.

There were much better bands around the same time like Dinosaur Jr. and Pavement.

[cmg4894]

Well I agree that there are much better bands from that time period, you still have to look at what was going on at the time. I love Dinosaur Jr., along with Mudhoney and Sonic Youth to name a few but.....They never were very popular. To music fans yes, but over all not many people know them. Nirvana was in the right place at the right time. They had a sound that was different to most people at the time. Yes, Cobain wasn't a great guitar player, hell he wasn't very good at all and really couldn't 'sing' he yelled. But, he wrote great and catchy hooks. Dave was one of the best drummers on the 90's. I also don't think Kris gets enough credit for keeping a nice yet simple bass line going. Listen to songs like 'Lounge Act' and tell me the band is over rated. Also, their b-sides and live stuff is much better than the albums. So much energy.

[Rev0lver]

kurt cobain is one of the few people i can say im glad they're dead.

[LZ_Reborn]

kurt cobain is one of the few people i can say im glad they're dead.

Dude!! that's a terrible thing to say!! :mad: if you don't like the band and/or Kurt Kobian that's fine, but to go and say your glad he's dead??? bad!!

[Kutsic]

I'm glad he's dead because he was a self loathing, detestible drug addict that did nothing to better anyone's life. He was a waste.

And as for his band, horrid. Dave Grohl needed Cobain to die so he could show off his talent. Nirvana would be nothing more than a high selling band if Cobain hadn't offed himself.

[LZ_Reborn]

I'm glad he's dead because he was a self loathing, detestible drug addict that did nothing to better anyone's life. He was a waste.

And as for his band, horrid. Dave Grohl needed Cobain to die so he could show off his talent. Nirvana would be nothing more than a high selling band if Cobain hadn't offed himself.

Maybe that's exactly why he killed himself...

You shouldn't judge people so harshly. And he was not a waste, he contibuted (Nirvana) a lot to Rock music whether you want to admit it or not.

[Rev0lver]

well, i think its possible he didn't kill himself. you know its not easy to reach far enough to shoot yourself in the head with a shotgun, and his shoes were still on at the crime scene. but i really don't know much about it.

[joetaylor]

I think Nirvana are a huge credit to rock music and music in general. There sound was good and i think their talent and image were great.

Kurt Cobain, not the most talented guitar player ever, but an absolutely outstanding musician.

Dave Grohl, a legendary drummer in my opinion, and hes doing excellently with Foo Fighters.

Also, i dont think Kurt Cobain killed himself, its massively impossible. His arms werent long enough to even reach the trigger, he had his shoes on at the scene of the crime and he had taken far too high an overdose of marajuewana to even be concious. In addition, the suicide note he wrote, the paragraph at the bottom was probably forged, it looks like it.

I could go on, but im not here to be boring :)

[cmg4894]

I love Nirvana (changed my life when I was 13 and now have some band tattoos)

But first:

I really don't like the whole "He didn't kill himself" thing. That is like saying Elvis is alive and living on the moon.

Second:

Most of the people on this site that don't like Nirvana are kids. (Sorry but 18 or 19 to me is a a kid). Most people start showing their own taste in music around 12 or 13. I was 12 when 'Nevermind' came out. These kids had N'Sync and the boy bands. There wasn't a lot of rock. I'm not saying they listen to the boy bands but... Not a lot of rock on the radio. It was the end of Nu Metal. I never got into Korn or Limp Bizit or anything like that.
I'm not a huge classic rock fan. Really don't get Led Zepplin. But I don't say they suck. For their time they did a lot. If they came out today would they be as big. I don't think so but there was great talent there with very catchy song writing. Even though I don't listen to them doesn't mean I don't understand them.

So to all you who hate Nirvana understand this: For the time they changed music. A lot of the rock out now wouldn't be around with out them. Show some respect for what they did. You don't have to like them just understand them.

[Kutsic]

Nirvana changed mainstream music, they weren't the first to do what they and they weren't the last, they were just the first to get noticed. They didn't kill hair metal, they didn't start a revolution, they continued what was already happening to begin with.

And unfortunately, a lot of rock now doesn't need to be around, and the majority of that is the same simplistic, mindless garbage that Nirvana produced.

And it's not even that I hate their style of music, but I honeslty think Nirvana did it worse than the majority of their peers.

Yno, a lot of music on the radio wouldn't sound the same without Korn or Fall Out Boy either...I don't see many people on this forum saying they're amazing.

Nirvana is revolutionary because their front killed himself. Just like Mayhem. Hundreds of other bands did the exact same style of music as Mayhem, but because Dead offed himself and Varg became a murderer, they became the "ultimate" black metal band.

And as for not judging Kurt so harshly. If he was unhappy and wanted to commit suicide, then I support him, because I believe a person has a right to choice what they do with their life. Therefore, I think it was better for everyone, including himself, that he took his life, because he wasn't happy and his lifestyle and what he projected upon others wasn't beneficial in any way.

And I don't have to respect them to understand them.

[battle_axe_of_doom]

hey man mayhem is actually good though :(

[bounchfx]

nirvana changed music for the worse :\


just kidding, but man, I sure grew out of them fast.

still some soft spots in me for some songs, but most are just bleh.

[Kutsic]

hey man mayhem is actually good though :(
I didn't say they weren't, but honestly, they're far more famous for their deaths than their music.

Same goes for Pantera. Another band that I think is great, but they seem to have jumped to being legends only AFTER Dimebag was shot.

It's just stupid that a band can become more famous for their members dying than for their music.

[Rev0lver]

It's just stupid that a band can become more famous for their members dying than for their music.

i believe the same thing about JFK. i think he was a ****ty president but his reputation shot up after he was assasainated.

[battle_axe_of_doom]

good pun :thumbsup:

and yeah i agree with you kutsic. poor mayhem, had some great albums (even the new one is damn good) yet they're still known as that band whose half of its members ended up dead or in prison

[Zidane]

A lot of hate for Nirvana. But I view music as a form of art. It doesn't have to be overly complicated to be good. The great thing about Nirvana was they didn't feel the need to be the greatest band out there. They used simple chords and got attention because their music was good. Kurt isn't the best singer, he's not the best guitarist ever, but he'll forever be legendary. Anyway, if it wasn't for them music in the early 90's would have been bland. Although, with most rock trends a bunch of grunge and alterna-rock bands rose to fame without really trying. I'm looking at you Bush. But Nirvana is one of my favorite bands ever. In Utero is still constantly being played on my iPod.

[cmg4894]

A lot of hate for Nirvana. But I view music as a form of art. It doesn't have to be overly complicated to be good. The great thing about Nirvana was they didn't feel the need to be the greatest band out there. They used simple chords and got attention because their music was good. Kurt isn't the best singer, he's not the best guitarist ever, but he'll forever be legendary. Anyway, if it wasn't for them music in the early 90's would have been bland. Although, with most rock trends a bunch of grunge and alterna-rock bands rose to fame without really trying. I'm looking at you Bush. But Nirvana is one of my favorite bands ever. In Utero is still constantly being played on my iPod.

So true. That made me laugh. Glad there are some Nirvana fans here that understand them.

[JukeBoxHero]

I do not like Nirvana, I found their music to be very boring.

[Kutsic]

If Cobain wasn't the best guitar player or best singer...then WHY is he legendary?

That's the point I'm trying to make. He's a legend for no ****ing reason.

And I have nothing against simplistic music, I love blink-182...and seriously, it doesn't get much more simple than that. But the thing that blink did was they made music that didn't sound like a dying cat being raped.

[Zidane]

If Cobain wasn't the best guitar player or best singer...then WHY is he legendary?

That's the point I'm trying to make. He's a legend for no ****ing reason.

And I have nothing against simplistic music, I love blink-182...and seriously, it doesn't get much more simple than that. But the thing that blink did was they made music that didn't sound like a dying cat being raped.

Buddy Holly is considered a legend and look at his singing and guitar skills. None of which is outstanding. So what now? Look at BOB DYLAN! He sings like crap, he can barely play guitar but he is in ,many people's opinion, a legend!

Oh, and Blink-182 sucks. I'd rather listen to a cat being raped from both ends than listen to their crap.

[SmokaCola]

No one really likes each other's music here i've found that out quick like lol. I like songs like, Smells Like Teen Spirit and Heart-Shaped Box. To be honest with you I just don't like Kurt or his singing. As far as the music itself it was great. I'm not really one of those people that like to single out genres. What i've also noticed here is people really don't like the music if it's extremely popular unless it's classic, then it's ok. Take Lordi, Dragon Force, Blind Guardian for example. Good vocals, sweet guitar, excellent drums and singing. People hate all 3 of those bands, why? because they're modern bands of today and extremely popular (except for Lordi not too many Americans know about them yet).

Then we have our bands such as My Chemical Romance, Plus(+) 44, Thrice. whiney and emotional but they still make good music, not too many here like them though and the reason is because they're (yet again) pretty popular and played just about everywhere. I just don't really get it, There may be the occasional band I just really hate and can't stand. But even if I hate that band I still might find some of their songs pretty interesting, you guys should give it a shot. Even if you just can't stand that type of music or the band itself, give one of their songs a shot and see if it REALLY is THAT bad.

Take me for example, I hated MCR forever but then I played "DEAD!" on GHII and I actually enjoyed it, of course some of you won't enjoy "DEAD!" because everyone has their own taste, but maybe you like at least one of their songs. Most of you just say the bands suck because you've never actually listened to their songs, you just hear what others say and assume they suck. For the most part some of you actually have heard every song and have looked at how well each person performs, but they just literally suck and how anyone can like them is beyond belief. Just had to get that off my chest =\ too much crap about what's good and what's not around here. Remember, it's all music and isn't meant to entertain just you, it's for everyone, and just because YOU don't like it doesn't mean it sucks.

[Zidane]

No one really likes each other's music here i've found that out quick like lol. I like songs like, Smells Like Teen Spirit and Heart-Shaped Box. To be honest with you I just don't like Kurt or his singing. As far as the music itself it was great. I'm not really one of those people that like to single out genres. What i've also noticed here is people really don't like the music if it's extremely popular unless it's classic, then it's ok. Take Lordi, Dragon Force, Blind Guardian for example. Good vocals, sweet guitar, excellent drums and singing. People hate all 3 of those bands, why? because they're modern bands of today and extremely popular (except for Lordi not too many Americans know about them yet).

Then we have our bands such as My Chemical Romance, Plus(+) 44, Thrice. whiney and emotional but they still make good music, not too many here like them though and the reason is because they're (yet again) pretty popular and played just about everywhere. I just don't really get it, There may be the occasional band I just really hate and can't stand. But even if I hate that band I still might find some of their songs pretty interesting, you guys should give it a shot. Even if you just can't stand that type of music or the band itself, give one of their songs a shot and see if it REALLY is THAT bad.

Take me for example, I hated MCR forever but then I played "DEAD!" on GHII and I actually enjoyed it, of course some of you won't enjoy "DEAD!" because everyone has their own taste, but maybe you like at least one of their songs. Most of you just say the bands suck because you've never actually listened to their songs, you just hear what others say and assume they suck. For the most part some of you actually have heard every song and have looked at how well each person performs, but they just literally suck and how anyone can like them is beyond belief. Just had to get that off my chest =\ too much crap about what's good and what's not around here. Remember, it's all music and isn't meant to entertain just you, it's for everyone, and just because YOU don't like it doesn't mean it sucks.

Wow, why can't there be more people like you on the boards? I'm guilty of being a bit prejudice against music genres, (Read above) but I try to remain neutral as much as I can.

[marcoduran]

Even all the opinions, I still believe Nirvana has been, and will be one of the best bands in the world, but I appreciate your sincerity (too much sincerity for some cases!!).

I'm 23 and my older brother and me have grew up with this band, and Kurt, Krist and Dave changed my live, no matter of the drugs, their personal problems or whatever!

Marc.

[Hoodman]

I'm a bit surprised about all the hate for Nirvana. Since they often get a lot of props from people I know. First off Dave Grohl is the man, for him to be such a vital part of different types of music and both bands(Foo and Nirvana) are big that's amazing(Don't forget his Queens of the Stone Age stint). Krist makes some pretty good stuff and adds well to the music as can be seen in Come As You Are.

Now about Mr. Cobain, his not that great a singer and there are far better guitar players than him. But him simply had ideas that changed music, whether good or bad that's ur choice but you've got to admit he brought about the change from the one-hit pop wonders & glam rock of the 80s. His music melded well w/ Gen X as he has interesting anti-government, religion, and people lyrics. Which are interesting, he's a smart songwriter though not that great a musician. I don't think he's genius for killing himself; It's more under the context, you know he killed himself probably because he was becoming what he hated (popularity).

Nirvana as a band started a new grunge rock wave and changed music for the 90s. While Cobain wasn't the most musically talented, Grohl & Novoselic were. Nevermind especially and In Utero are great albums, I mean theres a lot of good tracks on both albums. They brought in a new era, a change, which many bands including some of my favorite Stone Temple Pilots(from San Diego!!!) copied. Then their killer offed himself at the height of their popularity. Theres a lot of different things they came about because of them. Love or hate the music, they changed rock from the 80s to 90s.

Me personally? I like Nirvana, not my favorite but their probably in my top 20 or 30.

[tucsonovernite]

[QUOTE=Zidane;62681] Look at BOB DYLAN! He sings like crap, he can barely play guitar but he is in ,many people's opinion, a legend!QUOTE]

Oh My God

Juxtaposing Motherfu**ing Kurt Cobain with Bob Dylan, undeniably one of the most important cultural figures (musical or otherwise) of the last 50 years.....

He can barely play guitar? ya know in his early 20's during his "protest" days he was already fingerpicking....have you heard Don't Think Twice It's Alright? Are you even familiar with his music outside of a couple singles?
I better just STFU cause man y'all can tell I kinda have a likin' for Mr. Zimmerman but man what an ignornant crock...

oh and Nirvana never clicked w/ me musically or lyrically....I don't hate on them but I dont listen to them -respect

[Hoodman]

I don't like Bob Dylan either, great songwriter but I really can't hear him for that long; I like nearly anybody's cover of his songs especially Hendrix or Sam Cooke.

[nathan_logan]

I used to like Nirvana, but not now!

Even this, I'm still having some Nirvana's songs in my mind:

Rape me, my friend
Rape me, Rape me again
I'm not the only one...

Is a typical one, I know, but I can't avoid remember it every time I’m thinking about Nirvana.

Nathan.

[drevel]

I really liked Bleach & Nevermind alot. I never really got into Inutero, but I do have the box set & have listedned to it & it okay. Nirvana was def. a good band, but at times I think they give them way to much credit.

personally I think Alice in Chains is better.

[Gilmour]

Nirvana had the best idea ever: screw guitar and singing skills, three instruments, write some stupid-rediculous songs, kill yourself. A sure recipe for success.

Works for me. I love Nirvana. (and Pearl Jam)

[smokeverbs]

Nirvana is one of my favorite bands from the 90s - I can't help it, I "came of age" in the 90s - the best ever? No, that crown belongs to Zeppelin forevermore, but they were damn good. Foo Fighters *might* be even better, but that's a tough call.

[rockst01]

I love Nirvana, Kurt wrote catchy rock songs without all the excess of the 80's like finger bleeding guitar solos and mullets. Of course Pearl Jam is a way better grunge band and Eddie Vedder is a way better vocalist and song writer.




he had taken far too high an overdose of marajuewana to even be concious.
Hahahah ODing on Marijuana, that's a good one, he must've smoked 500 pounds of weed to pull that one off :D . Kurt had 3-5 times the lethal does of HEROIN at his time of death. Something that should kill a person almost as soon as you inject it.

[Hastyl3]

I like Nirvana but, they're just way too damn overrated. Half of their fans only liked Nevermind(I personally think In Utero is the better of the 3). I prefer Smashing Pumpkins. Okay, Billy might not be able to sing as "well" as other bands but, look at the stuff they wrote in the 90's. Songs like "Geek USA", "Tonight, Tonight", "Mayonaise", "Rhinoceros", and "Siva".

Nirvana is given way too much credit for the grunge era. It was already happening and "Smells Like Teen Spirit" just finished the job. Regardless, I like Nirana, even thought they're overrated but hey, at least it's not like Fall Out Boy(Uggh, the tediousness of their songs).

[thingfish]

i agree they are way overrated.they did have a few decent songs but if cobain hadnt topped himself they probably wouldnt even have a record deal now.

[Rocker2]

Nirvana's awesome

[progROCKER]

way overrated

I think they suck

alice in chains and soundgarden were the best grunge bands

[WingsOfSteel]

One of the most over rated bands ever
One of the most over rated songs ever (Smells Like Teen Spirit)

But God help me, I still love 'em. All Apologies has got to be one of the greatest songs ever.

[Shredder]

I think that from all the people saying Nirvana is overrated, they've become somewhat underrated. Songs like Rape Me/Lithium/In Bloom are more under the radar but still great; this band is more than just Smells Like Teen Spirit. They might not be the best for Rock Band or Guitar Hero, but to listen to Nirvana is excellent.

[ThePaska]

I didn't really discover Nirvana until about 5 or 6 years ago, and after I heard one or two of their songs besides "Smells Like Teen Spirit" I was really hooked. I had to listen to every song they ever made basically, I could not get enough of their sound. To date I own all their actual recorded stuff, and a bunch of their live performances as well.

I really like Nirvana, although I haven't been listening to them as much this past year, I've been moving on to new bands and songs, and expanding my listening. There is just something about Kurt's voice that always gets to me, there is just so much emotion behind it, singers like that always get me hooked on their music. That along with the simplistic and catchy bass and guitar and with Dave Grohl's drumming to hold it all together, Nirvana is one the great American rock bands. They are probably my favorite band, and most likely always will be.

[tombrady]

overrated...not my cup of tea, but I am not a big grunge fan in general, though I like a few AIC songs.

[HPLabonte]

overrated...not my cup of tea, but I am not a big grunge fan in general, though I like a few AIC songs.

Same here.

I hate Nirvana, though.

[ColonelKentucky]

Anyone who says Kurt Cobain was a waste clearly doesn't appreciate how he contributed to the music industry in general. If you could go back in time and stop Nirvana ever existing (which by the looks of it, some here would) music would be a hell of a lot different nowadays. Cue 'Yes, it would be a lot better if it wasn't for Nirvana, ho ho!'

He wasn't a complete drug-addicted, self loathing person, he had a lot of issues in his personal life which eventually got the better of him. All views shown are obviously our own, but I honestly can't say I think he commited suicide. Sure, you hear of these things often - if it was Joe Mann from down town people would assume it was a suicide, but with celebrities, it's often twisted to make a big news story. This has to be an exception, since I think there's a hell of a lot more evidence to say he was murdered than to say he killed himself.

But anyway, on to the music side of things, Nirvana, I think, were and still are the best band of all time. I've not been 'into' them for long, yet the short amount of time I've started listening to more than Smells Like Teen Spirit, I have to say, has made me appreciate the band a lot more. Even I used to think it was a bit trashy and shouty.

In that respect I'm so glad In Bloom is on Rock Band and was delighted to hear that Nevermind will be released as a downloadable album for the game, which I'll be sure to get.

[Nilsen31]

a lot of peope hate nirvana...blah blah blah

some people looovvee nirvana...blah blah blah



They were good.

I like all of Nevermind.

Did a good cover of The Man Who Sold The World...which I like a lot more than Bowie's original.

They had a few other good songs.


And then Cobain's death.


I don't think they were this amazing all time great band...but they certainly had a real nice number of good songs...especially because they weren't around all that long.

[Nilsen31]

Some people are probably annoyed at how much play/attention Smells Like Teen Spirit gets...

for me, it's not even in the top 10 for nirvana songs.



and I'm a classic rock fan...I don't like grunge.


You'll see Nirvana get lots of play from classic rock stations...meaning that old dudes listen to em, I know my dad does.

But Smells Like Teen Spirit is never on...it's usually In Bloom or All Apologies

[nightshade]

if it was not for nirvana all the seattle bands would hae never made like its said nirvana where the leaders of generation X they started grunge and if you ask any one today they know who kurt cobain is like him or not i am 15 and from a dead beat town in south texas i love seattle and everything that has come out of it music wise and cobain was leaving music brfore he died he left a daughter and a loser wife behinde long live nirvana and cobain

[Vilius]

...Did a good cover of The Man Who Sold The World...

Agreed. They are alright (don't really care for them), but definitely my favorite song is their cover of The Man Who Sold The World. Really cool cover, IMO.

[battle_axe_of_doom]

worst cover ever

[battle_axe_of_doom]

if it was not for nirvana all the seattle bands would hae never made like its said nirvana where the leaders of generation X they started grunge and if you ask any one today they know who kurt cobain is like him or not i am 15 and from a dead beat town in south texas i love seattle and everything that has come out of it music wise and cobain was leaving music brfore he died he left a daughter and a loser wife behinde long live nirvana and cobain

sounds like someone is a tool. nirvana didn't start grunge or they merely made it popular

and wut southern texas town do you live in

[ColonelKentucky]

if it was not for nirvana all the seattle bands would hae never made like its said nirvana where the leaders of generation X they started grunge and if you ask any one today they know who kurt cobain is like him or not i am 15 and from a dead beat town in south texas i love seattle and everything that has come out of it music wise and cobain was leaving music brfore he died he left a daughter and a loser wife behinde long live nirvana and cobainWell said, that man!

[clearGHOST]

I have to say that Nirvana is one of my favorite bands, Kurt Cobain had a talent for writing lyrics and is a good guitarist, not an amazing one, but good for the band. Dave Grohls drumming was also very good, but he was always a front man, which is why the Foo Fighters are such a good band and so popular. Krist Novoselic was also a decent bassist, and the glue that held the band together. All in all Nirvana was a good grunge band, however, many people are mistaken in saying that they started the grunge movement. They were mainly a grunge icon and made the genre popular, which lead to the emergence of other great grunge bands such as Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam and Soundgarden.

[Tony_Soprano117]

I think Nirvana are a huge credit to rock music and music in general. There sound was good and i think their talent and image were great.

Kurt Cobain, not the most talented guitar player ever, but an absolutely outstanding musician.

Dave Grohl, a legendary drummer in my opinion, and hes doing excellently with Foo Fighters.

Also, i dont think Kurt Cobain killed himself, its massively impossible. His arms werent long enough to even reach the trigger, he had his shoes on at the scene of the crime and he had taken far too high an overdose of marajuewana to even be concious. In addition, the suicide note he wrote, the paragraph at the bottom was probably forged, it looks like it.

I could go on, but im not here to be boring :)

you have a few things messed up with this post

1. he didnt overdose on marijuana it was heroin

2. he mihgt not of overdosed at all, i mean this guy did heroin for most of his life and if you know anything about drugs you know that you keep doing larger amounts to get you more high, so he could have built up a tolerence to this amount of heroin and been fine but he still couldnt have reached the trigger.

3. the note was not forged at the bottom exactly like you said, he was planing on divorcing Courtney Love and leave Nirvana and the music business all together and was writing a note to his fans, at the end he signed it: Love, Peace, Empathy, Kurt Cobain.
then after that ina different style of handwrtitng it talks about suicide the upper part of the note talks about divorcing Love and leaving music the last 4 lines talk about suicide and they are in completly different writing

just clearing things up

P.S. I think Courtny Love killed Kurt because 1 he was divorcing her and 2 Nirvana was better succes tha her band Hole and if he divorced her she would be a poor junkie..but if she killed him she would inherit it all becasue he hadnt changed his will yeat but was going to see his lawyer the very next day to change it...Kurt's lawyer even realeased a statment say Cobain was coming to her office to write up a new will and divorce papers

[Tony_Soprano117]

No one really likes each other's music here i've found that out quick like lol. I like songs like, Smells Like Teen Spirit and Heart-Shaped Box. To be honest with you I just don't like Kurt or his singing. As far as the music itself it was great. I'm not really one of those people that like to single out genres. What i've also noticed here is people really don't like the music if it's extremely popular unless it's classic, then it's ok. Take Lordi, Dragon Force, Blind Guardian for example. Good vocals, sweet guitar, excellent drums and singing. People hate all 3 of those bands, why? because they're modern bands of today and extremely popular (except for Lordi not too many Americans know about them yet).

Then we have our bands such as My Chemical Romance, Plus(+) 44, Thrice. whiney and emotional but they still make good music, not too many here like them though and the reason is because they're (yet again) pretty popular and played just about everywhere. I just don't really get it, There may be the occasional band I just really hate and can't stand. But even if I hate that band I still might find some of their songs pretty interesting, you guys should give it a shot. Even if you just can't stand that type of music or the band itself, give one of their songs a shot and see if it REALLY is THAT bad.

Take me for example, I hated MCR forever but then I played "DEAD!" on GHII and I actually enjoyed it, of course some of you won't enjoy "DEAD!" because everyone has their own taste, but maybe you like at least one of their songs. Most of you just say the bands suck because you've never actually listened to their songs, you just hear what others say and assume they suck. For the most part some of you actually have heard every song and have looked at how well each person performs, but they just literally suck and how anyone can like them is beyond belief. Just had to get that off my chest =\ too much crap about what's good and what's not around here. Remember, it's all music and isn't meant to entertain just you, it's for everyone, and just because YOU don't like it doesn't mean it sucks.

I live in Jersey went to school at Belleville High where My Chemical Romance went to school (except the drummer) Ive talked to Gerard and Mikey before and Frank and Ray my brother used to go to FRank's house i went to thier first gig. I have always been a fan the thing you have to understand and most people dont is that Gerard and Mikey have had alot of deaths in thier time and Gerard puts it to music they have come to realize maybe death is a good thing think about it you die and if you go to heaven you have no more pain then again you could go to hell, there music is so from Gerards heart its not even funny..now most of them are a good bit older than me i was in the same grade as Mikey im 27 Gerard is 30 i think Frank is the youngest i know he was in a lower grade than me hes 25 i think but i know they were outcast they like D&D and comics and just they were stereotyped as nerds..they made music becasue of 9/11 which is a very good cause to make music but if you listen to them Gerard is a great singer and Frank and Ray are just great at guitar, i think Bob is way better on drums than Matt and mikey lays down a good bass line

[guitaristbmh]

I don't like Nirvana. I don't hate em, but just don't like them. I prefer Alice in Chains, their tune just appeals to me more than Nirvana's does.

[MdubMedia]

I was born in '83. When Nirvana came out, I didn't realize how amazing what they were doing really was. When I hear their music on the radio, I think about how "modern" it sounds. I can only image where they would be now....

I can dig 'em. I don't own any CD's, but I have borrowed some and do enjoy listening to them mixed into my ipod on "shuffle."

[Mournblade77]

Nirvanna is the seccond most over rated band of all time. Right behind the Doors.

And for all the people saying "they changed music for the better in the 90's" Get a clue. They had 1 big crossover hit. The alternitive scene (which grung is a sub genre of) was already taking off, as was hip hop. Yes, we had a bunch of crappy overproduced teen idol and boy bands at the end of the 80's, but then we did again in the early 2000's.

The truth of the matter is groups like New Kids on The Block and Tiffany (or Backstreet Boys and Brittney Spears to all ya youngins) come along anytime there is a large group of very young people around. They eventually go away until the next big batch of childeren come along, and then the marketing team goes to work

Real music will always pervail in the end, becuase it's real music. It has heart, the kind of crappy pop music that Nirvana 'saved' us from doesn't. Therefore it will always fade i to obscurity over time.

[newwaytodie]

well, i think its possible he didn't kill himself. you know its not easy to reach far enough to shoot yourself in the head with a shotgun, and his shoes were still on at the crime scene. but i really don't know much about it.

He also used a freaking quail load. He's lucky he actually deliverd a fatal blow, else he would have been a vegetable for the rest of his life. That's really depressing.

[MundaneSoul]

Not a Nirvana fan, personally. Yeah, they had some fun songs, but overall I'm not thrilled with them or anything.

[municipalblack]

I'm not a huge fan of Nirvana but I'm excited for Nevermind, I think it's a fantastic album.

[Intellectualdiot]

I think Bleach is an absolutely fantastic album, and easily the best collective effort that they released. But other than that, I don't think much of the band. I respect them but there was far more to "grunge" than its poster boys.

[Eastern-Eagles]

I like them, but they are incredibly overrated. Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, Mad Season, Temple of the Dog, STP, and the Smashing Pumpkins (if you call them grunge) were all MUCH better bands yet they don't get nearly as much attention as Nirvana.

[Seattle_Sound]

Look everyone, I'm so sick of all these metalheads prancing around dismissing everything else as crap because its not lightning fast complex. Nirvana was simple and overrated yes but that doesnt mean they were TEH WERST BADN EVR. DUDE TEHY SUCK. Kurt was a really inspiring person who had a ton of passion for his music. Yeah he wasnt a great, or even good, guitarist but he had PASSION. Dave *****ng pounded the drums and is a great musician in general.

One thing I've noticed is that most Nirvana haters havent even listened to the things that REAL Nirvana fans love. I really dont enjoy Teen Spirit at all. Drain You is a great song with a trippy interlude in the middle. Songs like Something In The Way and Do Re Mi are incredibly touching. In Utero is a fantastic album with songs like Tourrettes and All Appolgies. If you dig deep into the Nirvana catelog you'll find a lot better stuff than the overplayed mainstream stuff.

And most Nirvana fans dont like them because Kurt killed himself. Thats the biggest bullsh*t I've ever heard.

[newwaytodie]

Nirvana also gets a bad rap for defining the grunge era. Personally, I'd take the grunge era over whatever the hell today's era is any day.

[caex12]

Look everyone, I'm so sick of all these metalheads prancing around dismissing everything else as crap because its not lightning fast complex. Nirvana was simple and overrated yes but that doesnt mean they were TEH WERST BADN EVR. DUDE TEHY SUCK. Kurt was a really inspiring person who had a ton of passion for his music. Yeah he wasnt a great, or even good, guitarist but he had PASSION. Dave *****ng pounded the drums and is a great musician in general.

One thing I've noticed is that most Nirvana haters havent even listened to the things that REAL Nirvana fans love. I really dont enjoy Teen Spirit at all. Drain You is a great song with a trippy interlude in the middle. Songs like Something In The Way and Do Re Mi are incredibly touching. In Utero is a fantastic album with songs like Tourrettes and All Appolgies. If you dig deep into the Nirvana catelog you'll find a lot better stuff than the overplayed mainstream stuff.

And most Nirvana fans dont like them because Kurt killed himself. Thats the biggest bullsh*t I've ever heard.


I'M so sick of people like you saying that we metalheads "dismiss everything else as crap because it's not lightning fast complex" or some other thing that's just as stupid.

Most metalheads like other music besides metal, like I do, we just like metal the most.

[Scholz_is_God]

Nice band and all, but I don't think they'd have the same legacy, or be nearly as famous if Kurt Cobain was still alive today.

For some reason (and maybe it's just me) I think Pearl Jam would be a lot more popular if Eddie Vedder had died after Ten.

[Seattle_Sound]

I'M so sick of people like you saying that we metalheads "dismiss everything else as crap because it's not lightning fast complex" or some other thing that's just as stupid.

Most metalheads like other music besides metal, like I do, we just like metal the most.

Ok ok, not ALL metal fans are like that, but I find that a lot of metal fans say that Nirvana sucks because the music is too simple. I think that is a stupid reason, just because it was simple doesnt mean it sucks.

[newwaytodie]

I don't really think it sucks, but the more I learn about music the more I realize that, it doesn't take a genius to write a hit song. It takes an image and a bunch of stupid teenagers.

[dlisapussy]

I love Nirvana, and why do people always say they aren't a legacy? I agree, but I've never heard anyone call them a legacy in my life to begin with.

[SlivedCupWinner]

Why is Kurt and Nirvana a legacy?

Ok, look at the big picture.

What you hear on the radio is what record labels let you hear. Record labels are run by pompous ******s like that Simon idiot on American Idol. He wants to tell you what is good. Now, I'm not saying what is on the radio isn't good, but there are tons of other stuff out there that is as good or better. Those execs at record labels want the sure thing that will sell millions, so they typically don't go out on a limb. that's why we have so many disgusting (and forgettable) boy bands. They think we are too stupid to know what is good and what we like. Truth is, we know what we like and that's why there are major musical contributors who never had a "hit" or maybe only 1 like Hendrix or the Grateful Dead.

To my recollection, there have been 3 major shifts in music to completely change what's playing on top 40 radio. Elvis, The Beatles and Nirvana. Yes, it looks funny to have Nirvana sitting next to the other two, but think about it. The radio sounded very different after each of them. With Nirvana, record labels wanted to cash in on that "New Thing." However, the new thing that came with Kurt was less of a fad than say disco or hair bands. The impact of Nirvana is still being heard on the radio more than 10 years later, as it is with Elvis and the Beatles.

Now some folks say they were in the right place at the right time. I would say to some extent that is true. But there were a lot of bands at the same time with a similar sound that didn't break the seal. It was them, and for that reason, Nirvana led by Kurt is definately a legacy, whether you like it or not.

[Nilsen31]

They have a nice amount of good songs...

a nice amount doesn't make you legends.


Cobain had a good voice.


They're an above average band, with a good lead singer...they have some space on my iPod but it's not like they're friggan legends.

I believe they are overrated, but only because people hold them on such a high level...not that they are bad.

[Guitar_Hero_God999]

They Rock. Enough Said.

[SRButton]

Dave Grohl is the only talent to come out of Nirvana.
How many others have come from being a backman in a sorry group to being a leadman of a talented group ???

[Flea_funk]

I love Nirvana and I think Cobain was great, however a ton of people over-estimate his guitar playing (Rolling Stone rated him #10 or something)

[SlivedCupWinner]

and you expected Rolling Stone to be accurate about something?

They're just industry monkeys. They are as bad as record labels about telling you what you will like.

[Hurdy_Gurdy]

Nevermind is one of the greatest albums of all time. Even though every other Nirvana album was decent at best, I will always love them. Nirvana's darker and more meaningful songs was a great change in pace compared to the rather superficial hair metal of 1980s. Not one of the greatest bands, but definitely one of the most defining. RIP Grunge.

[Baal_Lord]

kurt cobain is my hero, Dave Grohl is my favorite vocalist, sure nirvana wasnt the best but they will always be my favorite band.

[ziggy stardust]

I'll admit that when I was younger I hated Nirvana, I thought they were overrated. But recently I have really got into their music. I have all their albums including their box set. Say what you want about Kurt Cobain but he was a good songwriter and singer. In fact the first song I learned to play on the guitar was a Nirvana song.

[Hislove4ever7]

I really like Nirvana, although I can say with no doubt they are highly overrated amongst the other Seattle Sound bands. Their content was great, but his guitar riffs and stuff were pretty simple and catchy. The lyrics were great though. He wasnt a very technical singer, but his voice had something that I cant quite explain.

[bklynpnk]

Nirvana was a band that had different levels to delve into, for as simple as they were. Most entered in at the Nevermind stage, a bit over produced, with some catchy simpler songs, Bleach/Insesticide and In Utero were by far better, imo. I have used it ealier in this post, but rather than saying simple, I would prefer to use the word raw. The energy, the singing and the instruments all could be difined as this. And their live shows were pure energy. Songs like Breed, Drain you, terr. pissings, Lounge act...all good on the album. But When seen live, you could hardly be the same when listening to the mundane versions on the album. Favorites live: aero zeppelin, aneurysm, milk it, very ape, scentless apprentice...the list can go on.

It's all about personal tastes however. Kurt may not have had the best voice, but I would personally take it over the nasally high pitched sining of a lot of more popular bands out there now. And they may not have had the speed and the form, but there was just something about the lack of it that made it more more and primal than anything else.

[frith]

I have to thank Kurt for one thing, if he didn't cash in when he did, who knows if Foo Fighters would have ever come to fruition.. Foo Fighters kick ass.

[Seattle_Sound]

I have to thank Kurt for one thing, if he didn't cash in when he did, who knows if Foo Fighters would have ever come to fruition.. Foo Fighters kick ass.


Dude dont even get me started, the Foo Fighters are a joke. There is Nothing Left To Lose is their only good album. Well that and the self-titled.

In Your Honor is pathetic and so is Echoes.

Dave was great in Nirvana but now he thinks he's like the most important man in music.

And I think I've already put in my 2 cents about how good Nirvana is.

[AMnOesIa-drummer]

I thought they were pretty good.

[bklynpnk]

I am not a fan of them, especially the song that was picked for RB. Has to be one of the most boring songs to play/sing.

[nightshade]

sounds like someone is a tool. nirvana didn't start grunge or they merely made it popular

and wut southern texas town do you live intool hah this coming from a person who loves to bash nirvana two post man battle to corect myself they made it popular but lets see the out come is they did not make it popular stone temple pilots would not get famous so then velvet revolver would no start heres another one for you soundgarden would not make it eather if not for nirvana so i guess chris cornell would be flipinf burgers at burger king instead on being in audioslave or going solo dont make start on alice in chains btw rgv

[Wangsandsuch]

Kurt Cobain was murdered, by Courtney Love.

[SurferD]

I really hated Nirvana when they first started and my sentiments haven't changed. I still can't understand why they got the critical acclaim. The arrangements of the songs and skill level of playing sucked and if you could understand what Kurt was saying it was very negative. One thing I can give them credit for was bringing the guitar solo to a screetching halt. for a couple years after them no one did solos anymore. That was a terrible time in Rock. He was obviously having a hard time with the fame but, hello, you're in a freakin band that plays in front of many people! Duh! I think the guys in the band were all good musicians(except Kurt of course) and he dragged them down. Thank God Dave G started the Foo Fighters they are awesome and very anti-Nirvana.

[tepidshark]

Honestly, I like Nirvana, but I like Foo Fighters better because both their songs and their personalities are more relateable. Nirvana was all about misery, while Foo Fighters seem to be more fun especially by watching videos like Learn To Fly, Long Road To Ruin, and Big Me to name a few.

[Mayhem]

I think Nirvana revolutionized how to play ****ty music.


seriously, grundge has been around before Nirvana even became a garage band, they didn't invent anything, and their music was so simplistic that it shouldn't be even close to considered legendary.

Kurt killing himself was the selling point in their career, and certainly their best move IMO.


but, my girlfriend likes them, so obviously bad music is appealing to some people.

[chillzatl]

Nirvana was: A good band that had lots of good songs. They weren't (apart from Grohl) great musicians, but that doesn't take away from them as a band or from Cobain as a song writer. Their legacy is as much about Cobain, his personality and his suicide as it is about their music. They were a band that was greater than the sum of its parts.

[newwaytodie]

Nirvana represented the low-point of rock music. People claim them to be the best of thier era, which even if they were, (they weren't) isn't saying a whole lot.

Nirvana showed people that in order to be a successful rock band, all you need is 3 chords, a moody, depressed lead singer, and a bunch of stupid people who will conform the latest trend.

My Chemical Romance anyone?

[Julio_Strikes_Back]

The best thing Kurt Cobain ever released was the safety.





I'm going to hell, aren't I.

[FaytLJake]

They were an awesome band that forever changed the face of both rock and musci in general. I am saddened by the fact that I will never see them play live. :(

[eliandthecottonjins]

Awesome but overrated Band.

But the songs are helping me get through a pretty rough patch in me life so Yeah Respect.

Teen Spirit will live forever