CMD Rants on Super Mario 3

[CM_Drunk]

So...me and my gf dug out her old Super Nintendo. We bought Super MArio All Stars (1,2,3 and lost levels) off friends of hers.

And I sat down, and we threw down some Super Mario 3.

And now my self esteem in my gaming abilities has plummeted.

I can play expert guitar. I can shoot the head off a terrorist with a pistol, while rappelling down the side of a building. I can beat hookers and steal there money. I can cruise through Paradise city, smashing opponents cars into trailer trucks at whim.

But I cant use two friggin buttons, and get past the flying pirate ship with the ridiculous cannons all over the place (Seriously. Who puts cannons on there ships pointing every which way, Koopas designers are ******ed.)

My inner 9 yr old anguish is coming back to me all over again.

[airman_house]

lol i've noticed that in the past too when i would try to play old games like that... i think its just that we are just used to the newer stuff and arent in the right frame of mind like we were in the past... *shrugs* just a thought ..lol

[CM_Drunk]

Maybe your right.


I just want to make a quick shout out to that giant friggin fish on level 3.3 I think it is, that gobbles me up all the goddamn time cause I fail and fall into the water.

Im going to order the biggest order of Fish and Chips imaginable this weekend, and think of you with every ketchup and lemon covered bite I take, you no good mutha *bleep*

[airman_house]

haha...sounds good. i think the last old game i tried playing was the first mario and it took me a long time to get back into it but i finally beat it like 2 days later lol

[LZ_69]

I know what you mean exactly, I tried SMB3 on the Nintendo DS (Gameboy cartridge) because I wanted to help my son through some levels, and goddamn!! it was a lot tougher than I remember, of course the control scheme is a lot harder than the new mario games (New Super Mario Bros. for example). Another thing I was a lot more hardcore back then, and I played any game until I mastered it, no matter how many hours it took. Still I think with some practice you'll regain your old skills.:)

[HMXDungHeaver]

Some pointers: (Might want to fast forward to the canon level)

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[HMXDave]

I can relate.

I went back to play Kid Icarus again the other day on my old NES. That game is INSANELY HARD!!!

I don't know how I beat it when I was a kid.


And does anyone remember in the original Metroid how there were those rooms that you fall into and get stuck? It would take you an hour to get back out.

Shoot box above you, jump so box reappears underneath you while shooting the next box up, jump up again, shoot next box, box reappears INSIDE you, knocking you back down to the bottom again, repeat.

[dady5000]

But I cant use two friggin buttons, and get past the flying pirate ship with the ridiculous cannons all over the place (Seriously. Who puts cannons on there ships pointing every which way, Koopas designers are ******ed.)



And thus you enter some of the hardest stages in gaming history.

Seriously.


SMB3 was HARD.

Back in a time where more games were hard (either because it was made badly, or it was made Good)

[JesusSilencio]

I just want to make a quick shout out to that giant friggin fish on level 3.3 I think it is, that gobbles me up all the goddamn time cause I fail and fall into the water.

heh, yeah, I remember that was about as far as I could get in the game without using continues or flutes.

I don't know, I think I actually do better when I replay old games from my childhood. Of course, I was only 8 back when I had a working regular nintendo, so that might have something to do with it. I actually remember having to stick my brother's drumstick in the nintendo to make the cartridge stay down. Ahhh, those were the days....

[LZ_69]

I can relate.

I went back to play Kid Icarus again the other day on my old NES. That game is INSANELY HARD!!!

I don't know how I beat it when I was a kid.


And does anyone remember in the original Metroid how there were those rooms that you fall into and get stuck? It would take you an hour to get back out.

Shoot box above you, jump so box reappears underneath you while shooting the next box up, jump up again, shoot next box, box reappears INSIDE you, knocking you back down to the bottom again, repeat.

AHHH!!! you just gave me a terrible flashback!!

You know I also tried Classic Metroid on the Gameboy SP to try and finish it again, thinking I was all badass! man did I get a reality check!! :D

And yes I do remember those rooms, they where enough to drive you insane!!:p

[Shredder87]

I haven't had a problem. The only game that gives me a hard time is god damn Zombies Ate My Neighbors!!!! I DON'T F***ING GET HOW YOU CAN PASS THAT GOD DAMN GAME!!!!! It rules though.

[FallenAce]

JUSTIN BAILEY
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There, now just go straight to the end, but get the Wave Beam first. It's one room left, and then two or three floors up and left.

[HMXDungHeaver]

I love Zombies Ate My Neighbors.

I heard somewhere they might be re-releasing it.

[HMXDave]

AHHH!!! you just gave me a terrible flashback!!

You know I also tried Classic Metroid on the Gameboy SP to try and finish it again, thinking I was all badass! man did I get a reality check!! :D

And yes I do remember those rooms, they where enough to drive you insane!!:p

I still have the insanely detailed map that I made of Metroid when I was a kid.

It has the location of all the energy tanks, missiles, weapons and those trick rooms you get stuck in. I used it to blaze through Metroid recently. Piece of cake.



But the hardest game by far has to be Ghosts 'n Goblins. I swear that game was made by satan himself.

[Bonez]

lmfao...this is one of the greatest threads EVER!

I used to be able to just make it into the second world, and then I would undoubtedly die.

I did love the flying hat though. That was pretty sweet.

To this day I have still never beaten Mario 64...though I heard you went through all that trouble for a piece of cake. It's probably better that I never beat it in retrospect, or I probably would have broken the N64 into a million pieces.

[LZ_69]

I still have the insanely detailed map that I made of Metroid when I was a kid.

It has the location of all the energy tanks, missiles, weapons and those trick rooms you get stuck in. I used it to blaze through Metroid recently. Piece of cake.



But the hardest game by far has to be Ghosts 'n Goblins. I swear that game was made by satan himself.

I think it was actually a requirement that you sell your soul to Satan to finish the game!:D

[Apples]

SMB3 was a real masterwork in gaming, and in an era where game difficulty would cut you to pieces!

[JesusSilencio]

But the hardest game by far has to be Ghosts 'n Goblins. I swear that game was made by satan himself.

The worst thing about that game is even if you spent all day getting up to the last guy, if you, god forbid, didn't have that shield weapon, you had to go back like 2 levels or something. Especially since that shield weapon has such short range, so it sucked trying to beat the level with it.

[HMXDave]

The worst thing about that game is even if you spent all day getting up to the last guy, if you, god forbid, didn't have that shield weapon, you had to go back like 2 levels or something. Especially since that shield weapon has such short range, so it sucked trying to beat the level with it.

And then if you do beat the "last boss," you have to play through the entire game and beat him AGAIN!

Utterly pointless.

[CM_Drunk]

Does anybody else agree with me that Zelda 2 should be stricken from the Zelda serires? I hated that damn game.

[HMXDave]

Does anybody else agree with me that Zelda 2 should be stricken from the Zelda serires? I hated that damn game.

I really liked it.

At least it really is a Zelda game. *Glares at Super Mario Bros 2 aka Doki Doki Panic.*

[CM_Drunk]

I really liked it.

At least it really is a Zelda game. *Glares at Super Mario Bros 2 aka Doki Doki Panic.*

lol I actually got aggravated with SMB3 and switched to two last night. I was playing Rock Band 15 minutes later with Dung Heaver, so that goes to show how well that game recaptured my interest.

[HMXDungHeaver]

I can't even play any other game besides Rock Band right now. Opportunity cost is too high.

[LZ_69]

Does anybody else agree with me that Zelda 2 should be stricken from the Zelda series? I hated that damn game.

I learned to love that game, and I proud to say that actually finished it.

I wouldn't want to go through that ordeal again though.

[HMXChrisCanfield]

I always used to die on the sky levels of SMB3. I was heartened recently to discover that I still hate those forced moving platforms.

I remember beating that game in three days when I was young. Three months on the VC, and I still haven't found time to get through the plant world.

[JesusSilencio]

Does anybody else agree with me that Zelda 2 should be stricken from the Zelda serires? I hated that damn game.

I actually like Zelda 2, although I never played it when I was younger. I don't know, I just kinda have a thing for RPGs, and Zelda 2 felt more RPGish than the other ones. It is true that it didn't really feel like Zelda, and it was stupidly difficult.

It is really interesting that a lot of the second games from the NES era were very different from the originals. Zelda 2, Mario 2, Castlevania 2, Final Fantasy 2, Fire Emblem 2... probably more that I can't think of now.

[HMXDungHeaver]

lol I actually got aggravated with SMB3 and switched to two last night. I was playing Rock Band 15 minutes later with Dung Heaver, so that goes to show how well that game recaptured my interest.

CMD - Here's the two games we played.

http://lasttreestanding.com/explosiveconspiracy/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/img00177.JPG

http://lasttreestanding.com/explosiveconspiracy/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/img00175.JPG

Both Gold Stars :)

Does anyone else think it's way easier for 2 people to gold star something than it is alone? (i'm sure this relates more to drums)

[CM_Drunk]

LOL I really was heartbroken about Limelight. I play that song daily, one of my faves. I shoulda FC's that no prob. DOH!!

[HMXDungHeaver]

Haha, don't be so hard on yourself, I only got a 97&#37;.

Also, sorry for the poor quality, that's my camera-phone

[Shredder87]

Does anybody else agree with me that Zelda 2 should be stricken from the Zelda serires? I hated that damn game.
I PASSED THAT S***!!!! That's one of my crowning achievments in my video game career!!!!! After I passed it, I grew such a deep hatred towards that piece of s***!!!! hahahahaahaha.

[HMXDungHeaver]

The Adventures of Lolo was an amazing game

[a21schizoidman]

This is something I argued pointlessly with a kid on the bus once. He said that newer games are the best because they are harder. I do not know about this, aside from a few games here and there, all of todays games are very beatable, Madden is a great example, I never lose against the AI, bring on Tecmo Super Bowl, its usually a close one every game

I can beat most of todays games in a few hours first time through (Ghost Recon) where like the first time I beat Super Metroid it took 33 hours.

Older games are always harder (at least for me) and usually more fun, but also more aggrevating, where newer games, no matter how hard it might get, usually doesnt get nearly as hard as older games


plus the fact that some older games had like 100 levels or never ended
(Bugs Bunny had 100 levels) Sky Shark never ended, I think Ice Climber had like 70 levels

[Shredder87]

I think knowing that you can save now gives you that sense of security, as before you would sh** bricks if you're close to dying since you don't have any more lives to spend, hence new games feel easier.

[Sarge51]

I'm no more or less of a failure at that game than I used to be. :P

[HMXDungHeaver]

I think games were definitely harder back then. The save feature alone accounts for a lot of it.

If you couldn't save some of today's games, they would be MUCH more difficult.

[LZ_69]

I think games are easier now a days, becuase developers a more preocupied about making the story good, we have seen plently of video games in recent years with mind blowing stories, sometimes even better than movies.

Back in the days of Mario, the story just involved Bowser kidnapping the princess, we didn't know why exactly and we didn't care, all we knew is that we had to go through 8 castles to save her. I'm not saying that there where no exceptions to great stories back then, all I'm saying is that due to obvious limitations in the 8bit or 16bit era developers didn't have enough room for a gripping story, outstanding voice acting or great scores, so do they just did what they did best, make a challenging game.

[Bonez]

I really liked it.

At least it really is a Zelda game. *Glares at Super Mario Bros 2 aka Doki Doki Panic.*

I'm not the only one who knows of the SMB2 conspiracy!

Anybody play Startropics? That game was intense. We never found out the ending though because our NES gave up the ghost on the last level. :(

[HMXDave]

I'm not the only one who knows of the SMB2 conspiracy!

Anybody play Startropics? That game was intense. We never found out the ending though because our NES gave up the ghost on the last level. :(

Yeah. The funny thing is that I actually like Doki Doki Panic better than the real SMB2 (Lost Levels.)

I played Startropics a bit, but I never got anywhere in it.

Fester's Quest was another insanely hard NES game.

[CM_Drunk]

Since we are talking about Nintendo...

I saw a tshirt at this store. It was green, and it had a blank Nintendo cartridge on it and under it it read "Blow Me".

I want that shirt, and I shall buy it!

[HMXDungHeaver]

Since we are talking about Nintendo...

I saw a tshirt at this store. It was green, and it had a blank Nintendo cartridge on it and under it it read "Blow Me".

I want that shirt, and I shall buy it!

For anyone else who wants to buy that shirt: http://www.bustedtees.com/blowme

Another funny one:
http://www.bustedtees.com/guitarhero

Enjoy

[LZ_69]

For anyone else who wants to buy that shirt: http://www.bustedtees.com/blowme

Another funny one:
http://www.bustedtees.com/guitarhero

Enjoy

HA!!! that shirt is pure genius!!!:cool:(the blow me one) I shall get it as well!!

[Bonez]

Yeah. The funny thing is that I actually like Doki Doki Panic better than the real SMB2 (Lost Levels.)

I played Startropics a bit, but I never got anywhere in it.

Fester's Quest was another insanely hard NES game.

I think Doki Doki Panic was better because you actually knew the story. SMB2 just kind of threw this game at you and was like, play it and keep your confusion to yourself!

That description for the Nintendo shirt is hysterical.

[HMXDungHeaver]

I think Doki Doki Panic was better because you actually knew the story. SMB2 just kind of threw this game at you and was like, play it and keep your confusion to yourself!

That description for the Nintendo shirt is hysterical.


Haha, for anyone who can't see it:

http://6.content.bustedtees.com/d1/bt/d/c/bustedtees.2b178c6d11dce8bb694899bc31073643.gif

Description: Because "blow me and then put another cartridge on top of me once I'm in the NES" wouldn't fit.

[Bonez]

And if the situation was really dire, you'd have to blow the cartridge and the NES. Those were the days...too bad you can't fix Red Rings like that, eh?

[HMXDave]

I still have my original NES from way back in the day.

I have a serious collection of games for it too.

All you need to do is clean the contacts inside the system and the cartridges with rubbing alcohol and you never have to blow in them.

[Bonez]

I still have my original NES from way back in the day.

I have a serious collection of games for it too.

All you need to do is clean the contacts inside the system and the cartridges with rubbing alcohol and you never have to blow in them.

Where were you 15 years ago when I was lightheaded 90% of the time? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v116/bonezz/icon_lol.gif

[CM_Drunk]

The other classic NES trick was the old Leaving the cartridge sticking out about, and then slamming it in there like Ron Jeremy does.......nvm, ive made enough innuendo laced jokes today.

[HMXDungHeaver]

The other classic NES trick was the old Leaving the cartridge sticking out about, and then slamming it in there like Ron Jeremy does.......nvm, ive made enough innuendo laced jokes today.

Are there ever enough innuendo laced jokes?

[HMXDave]

Where were you 15 years ago when I was lightheaded 90% of the time?

Blowing into the cartridges like everyone else. I didn't know the "secret" of cleaning the contacts back when I was 11.

When I got into collecting classic NES games a few years ago I went back and cleaned everything. Now my original NES console, which I lovingly named Blinky, works like a charm every time.

[hmxhenry]

Super Mario Bros. 3 is the apex of human achievement.

[CM_Drunk]

Super Mario Bros. 3 is the apex of human achievement.

Does he mean the creation of that game?

Or those who have beaten the game?

[HMXDungHeaver]

I think he means the creation. The game itself is the achievement.

[HMXDave]

Remember when they played SMB3 in The Wizard?

[HMXDungHeaver]

^ I certainly do.



Also, for anyone who didn't see the video I posted (post #6 on this thread) it's of somebody beating SMB3 completely in 11 minutes. And it's MIND-BLOWING!

[CM_Drunk]

Remember when they played SMB3 in The Wizard?

I def do. Didnt that movie come out the same year as the first Ninja Turtles movie?

Im pretty sure that was the greatest year in my life.


Im going to go cry in my offices bathroom after coming to the realization my best years are behind me. :/

Just kidding, no crying here. Speaking of the Wizard, wasnt that when they debuted that ultra-stupid Power Glove, too?

[LZ_69]

I def do. Didnt that movie come out the same year as the first Ninja Turtles movie?

Im pretty sure that was the greatest year in my life.


Im going to go cry in my offices bathroom after coming to the realization my best years are behind me. :/

Just kidding, no crying here. Speaking of the Wizard, wasnt that when they debuted that ultra-stupid Power Glove, too?

Yeap! I remember I wanted that glove so so bad!!! My parents never got it for me, they always knew what was best for me when I was a kid!:D

[Bonez]

I might have to dig out my NES after all this talk about the classics...although I'll probably just end up crushed that I still suck as much as I used to.

[HMXDungHeaver]

If anyone wants to play SMB3 online for free, go to this link:

http://www.nintendo8.com/game/314/super_mario_brothers_3/

For any other games, search around on the site. Here's the top 100 NES games on the site:

http://www.nintendo8.com/toplist/more/

[CM_Drunk]

I might have to dig out my NES after all this talk about the classics...although I'll probably just end up crushed that I still suck as much as I used to.


You aint lying bro. I figured with my modern day gaming skills Id blow through those old game no sweat. I was in for a sad surprise. I will prob get back to SMB3 tonight, and see if I can finally beat that god-forsaken Pirate Ship.

[chico76]

Great thread!

I actually keep my NES out with my entertainment center... as I sometimes just have a craving for Tetris. :) I'm usually surprised that I can still score over 700k points...

For me, the hardest game was Gauntlet. I must have gotten to Room 94 a couple hundred times before finally advancing to Room 97... then dying and having to redo Room 94 again. Ugh. I can't even remember if I ever actually got to Room 100 to beat the game...

I also remember my brothers & I recording the music from Bubble Man's world in Mega Man 2, just so we could listen to it while we played other games... *cough*nerds*cough*...

[LZ_69]

Did you guys ever play this game? Here's a challenge of Titanic proportions, if you have already finished it is the past(like me), then give yourself a pat in the back, if your never played it, give it a try.

http://i32.tinypic.com/zk4rvd.jpg

[HMXDungHeaver]

Did you guys ever play this game? Here's a challenge of Titanic proportions, if you have already finished it is the past(like me), then give yourself a pat in the back, if your never played it, give it a try.

http://i32.tinypic.com/zk4rvd.jpg

I've never played it, but you can play it here: http://www.nintendo8.com/game/571/rygar/

[chico76]

If anyone wants to play SMB3 online for free, go to this link:

http://www.nintendo8.com/game/314/super_mario_brothers_3/

For any other games, search around on the site. Here's the top 100 NES games on the site:

http://www.nintendo8.com/toplist/more/


How is Metroid all the way down at #34?! Wow... (I know all "top" lists are subjective, but c'mon...)

And where are Blaster Master & Baseball Stars? (What is a wren? It is a bird.) ;)

[HMXDungHeaver]

How is Metroid all the way down at #34?! Wow... (I know all "top" lists are subjective, but c'mon...)

And where are Blaster Master & Baseball Stars? (What is a wren? It is a bird.) ;)

Both of those are listed here, in the ALL section

http://www.nintendo8.com/all/

[HMXDave]

I also remember my brothers & I recording the music from Bubble Man's world in Mega Man 2, just so we could listen to it while we played other games... *cough*nerds*cough*...

Dude, you should check out a band called The Minibosses.

They do all covers of NES music. They do an awesome version of Mega Man 2.

[chico76]

Both of those are listed here, in the ALL section

http://www.nintendo8.com/all/


Oh, I know they're on the site... I just meant "why aren't they in the Top 100"... It seemed like everyone had those 2 games as staples in their top 5 or 10 games back then, with Metroid usually being top 3...

[chico76]

Dude, you should check out a band called The Minibosses.

They do all covers of NES music. They do an awesome version of Mega Man 2.


Thanks... will check them out... :)

[GreenGrassAndy]

On a personal note, I'm glad that they have Spy vs Spy on that list. Will have to play some of the games when I get home from work, lol.

I'm happy that somebody mentioned Kid Icarus in this thread, I don't think I've ever actually run into somebody who even knew what that game was. It was actually super hard and fun, but there was a code that got you all the way to the last level. It was like DANGER !!!!!! TERROR HORROR or something. LOL, I just looked it up and edited it to what it was, I was off by the !!!!!!, I put murder, but still pretty good after like 17 years.

[HMXDungHeaver]

the name Kid Icarus reminds me of a game for Sega called 'Kid Chameleon'

It was amazing, ridiculous, and never-ending.

[LZ_69]

On a personal note, I'm glad that they have Spy vs Spy on that list. Will have to play some of the games when I get home from work, lol.

I'm happy that somebody mentioned Kid Icarus in this thread, I don't think I've ever actually run into somebody who even knew what that game was. It was actually super hard and fun, but there was a code that got you all the way to the last level. It was like DANGER !!!!!! TERROR HORROR or something. LOL, I just looked it up and edited it to what it was, I was off by the !!!!!!, I put murder, but still pretty good after like 17 years.

Here's another person who played Kid Icarus it and finished it. I remember something that did help was the power ups that you could get if you finished small challenges in some rooms, but you could actually die in those rooms, and if you entered and left before the challenge was over the old guy screamed "You weakling!!"

[GreenGrassAndy]

Here's another person who played Kid Icarus it and finished it. I remember something that did help was the power ups that you could get if you finished small challenges in some rooms, but you could actually die in those rooms, and if you entered and left before the challenge was over the old guy screamed "You weakling!!"

LOL, I remember those! Those challenge rooms were a pain in the butt.

[mercuryshadow09]

lmfao...this IS the greatest thread EVER!



I fixed it for you. This thread really took me back, I can still play SMB3 just like i could back in the day, kinda weird i didn't miss a beat at all.

[mercuryshadow09]

He said that newer games are the best because they are harder. I do not know about this, aside from a few games here and there, all of todays games are very beatable


plus the fact that some older games had like 100 levels or never ended
(Bugs Bunny had 100 levels) Sky Shark never ended, I think Ice Climber had like 70 levels

There was a PS1 game named "One" it was only five level's, five of the hardest level's i ever played, in fact i still haven't beaten the last level on that game. Another hard game for me beside's Kid Icarus was Ninja Gaiden 3.

[mercuryshadow09]

I think games were definitely harder back then. The save feature alone accounts for a lot of it.

If you couldn't save some of today's games, they would be MUCH more difficult.

And now you also have checkpoint's instead of "OH MY ****ING GOD BACK TO THE BEGINNING AGAIN?

[chico76]

And now you also have checkpoint's instead of "OH MY ****ING GOD BACK TO THE BEGINNING AGAIN?


I'd have to say that saving & checkpoints don't make the games any "easier", per se, but they definitely save you A LOT of time in the grand scheme...

Probably why some people can beat games within a few days whereas "back in the day" it often took weeks (or longer) to beat a game... all those damn restarts!

So, it's "easier to PLAY a game" but it's not necessarily "easier to BEAT a game"...

Imagine having to play the Solo Career (or even the BWT career) without saving or checkpoints? If you fail out one song, anywhere in the mix, you're back to square one...

I don't think it would make Rock Band "harder", but it sure would piss a lot of us off because of all the time it would take to reach the end!

[frostywolf]

Wow, this thread is really making me want to bust out the NES (or at least some sort of emulator) to play SMB3. Great game, I haven't played it in a while but I'm probably around as good as I was back in the day - I play the NES Castlevania games regularly (and beat 2 of them recently), so my old-school platforming skills are still pretty good.

I never got around to beating SMB3 though since I never had the time to get through all of the levels and I could never get past the Dark World, so I'll probably have to look into beating it in the future.

I think a lot of the difficulty with old games versus new games stems from the fact that not many new games operate on the whole continues/lives system of old games and there's less plunges to the death. It could also have something to do with new games being in 3D and the controls not being as tight as they were in 2D games - adding the 3rd dimension in drastically changes player movement and so on, so that could be part of it.

Oh, and I've also played Kid Icarus but I've never beat that either. The Eggplant Wizard is the stuff of nightmares. And speaking of hard games, has anyone here beat Battletoads or Ninja Gaiden 3?

[GreenGrassAndy]

Wow, this thread is really making me want to bust out the NES (or at least some sort of emulator) to play SMB3. Great game, I haven't played it in a while but I'm probably around as good as I was back in the day - I play the NES Castlevania games regularly (and beat 2 of them recently), so my old-school platforming skills are still pretty good.

I never got around to beating SMB3 though since I never had the time to get through all of the levels and I could never get past the Dark World, so I'll probably have to look into beating it in the future.

I think a lot of the difficulty with old games versus new games stems from the fact that not many new games operate on the whole continues/lives system of old games and there's less plunges to the death. It could also have something to do with new games being in 3D and the controls not being as tight as they were in 2D games - adding the 3rd dimension in drastically changes player movement and so on, so that could be part of it.

Oh, and I've also played Kid Icarus but I've never beat that either. The Eggplant Wizard is the stuff of nightmares. And speaking of hard games, has anyone here beat Battletoads or Ninja Gaiden 3?

LOL, Battletoads. I actually beat it after they brought it over to the sega genesis, and I just figured that I was older so I was able to beat it easier. Was the NES version harder? I don't remember, except that it was a total pain.

[frostywolf]

Hmm... I don't know, I've never played the Genesis version. I just remember the dirt bike part of the NES one being ridiculously brutal.

[LZ_69]

Oh, and I've also played Kid Icarus but I've never beat that either. The Eggplant Wizard is the stuff of nightmares. And speaking of hard games, has anyone here beat Battletoads or Ninja Gaiden 3?

Yes sir, those two games also constitute a long list of games who have crumbled before my gaming skills...:cool::p

[frostywolf]

Yes sir, those two games also constitute a long list of games who have crumbled before my gaming skills...:cool::p

Yikes! :eek: Good job, sir. I have no idea how Battletoads is after that bike part, but congrats on beating it, that's probably one of the hardest parts of a video game level I've ever played. Ninja Gaiden 3 is pretty brutal with the continues, so congrats on that too.

[LZ_69]

Yikes! :eek: Good job, sir. I have no idea how Battletoads is after that bike part, but congrats on beating it, that's probably one of the hardest parts of a video game level I've ever played. Ninja Gaiden 3 is pretty brutal with the continues, so congrats on that too.

Like I mentioned is one of my first posts in this thread, back in the day I was pretty hardcore, If beating a game meant no spleep or even food and water? SO BE IT!! Also all through Jr. High and the first years of High school, me and my friends held a contest of who could beat the most games, we kept a pretty decent (and long list) of conquered games. I wish I still had it, I can't remember half of them now.:o

[CM_Drunk]

What was that game with the TV show? Smash TV or something? I <3'd that game.

And the best NES RPG moment ever:

"Marry Me" -Princess
*Yes or No prompt*

9 yr old CMD selects "No"

"But Thou Must!"-Princess
"Marry Me"
*Yes Or No prompt*

[HMXDungHeaver]

^ I LOVE Smash TV


Such a brutally violent game with a crazy theme.

[a21schizoidman]

I'm not the only one who knows of the SMB2 conspiracy!

Anybody play Startropics? That game was intense. We never found out the ending though because our NES gave up the ghost on the last level. :(

that game was kickass but frickin hard

[HMXDungHeaver]

I love love love love love Adventures of Lolo (1-3)

Soooooo effing good

[LZ_69]

What was that game with the TV show? Smash TV or something? I <3'd that game.

And the best NES RPG moment ever:

"Marry Me" -Princess
*Yes or No prompt*

9 yr old CMD selects "No"

"But Thou Must!"-Princess
"Marry Me"
*Yes Or No prompt*

Oh!! dude please tell me which game that was! I know I played it becaue I immediately recognized the dialogue....Curse this old worn out memory of mine!!!

[CM_Drunk]

That would be the first Dragon Warrior

Also at the end the bad guy (forget his name) would ask you to join him and you could rule the world together, and then you get the similar *Yes or No* prompt, and if you clicked yest to join him, the damn game reset.

[NunHugger]

Did you guys ever play this game? Here's a challenge of Titanic proportions, if you have already finished it is the past(like me), then give yourself a pat in the back, if your never played it, give it a try.

http://i32.tinypic.com/zk4rvd.jpg

*pats self on back*

It's been said already...but this is a kick ass thread. Zelda, Metroid, Kid Icarus, Rygar...all bring a tear to my eye. Super Mario I could do without. Enjoyable yes, but the games mentioned above were what Nintendo was about to me. Hours, days, hell...even months of my life were dedicated to the domination of these titiles. Kid Icarus was the first title I purchased and holds a place dear in my heart. Killing Medusa was my first taste of a video game-gasm!

Wish I still had my system.

[HMXDungHeaver]

Probably my favorite game for NES, which I hope someone can back me up on, is Fester's Quest.

I used to play that game all the time, and, like most NES games, it also is ridiculously hard.

Here's a screenshot:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c7/Fester's_Quest_screenshot.png

I love that the 'gun' that he holds looks like a fricken musket


http://www.outofmana.co.uk/boxart/uploaded_images/250px-FestQuest-758679.jpg

[CM_Drunk]

Alrightie dudes, which Zapper did you get?

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/3159/greygd3.jpg


OR

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/6246/orangefh9.jpg


http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/126/duckhuntdogby8bitpaintelt9.jpg

[HMXDungHeaver]

I had the old school gray, not the orange

[CM_Drunk]

I had the Orange One. And That Duck Hunt dog might be my new avie. I miss him so goddamn much!

[Maherj]

I have both of those zappers actually, although I can't seem to find my original anywhere. I actually loaded up SMB/Duck Hunt up about 3 months ago and had a blast with it.

While we're dishing out hard NES games, one of my favorites from back in the day was Bionic Commando. And they're redoing it in all HD graphics. It looks sa-weet.

http://www.bioniccommando.com

[LZ_69]

Alrightie dudes, which Zapper did you get?

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/3159/greygd3.jpg

I had the grey one, and since I got my NES when it launched it came with this cute but useless little guy:p

http://i29.tinypic.com/auwqxh.jpg

Kinda looks like that robot from the movie Short Circuit "Jonhny 5"!!!

[CM_Drunk]

Was there even a purpose for the robot? WTH did it do?

[LZ_69]

Was there even a purpose for the robot? WTH did it do?

Well the system came with this game
http://i26.tinypic.com/2059hr4.jpg

And this is the full R.O.B set up
http://i28.tinypic.com/1ibl12.jpg

What the game was about is that there was this little dude, that you had to help through some levels which looked like this
http://i32.tinypic.com/fc5koy.png

So you moved him around until he reached a red or blue column which could be moved with ROB, so what you did is press select and the screen would go green and then you press the directional pad and the game would send a signal to ROB to move in that direction(on movement at a time), so he would pick up these "gyros" which he would then put in a gyro spiner, pick them up again and put them in either the blue or red trays, which in return would press the A or B button which would lower the column.....*sighs* it was a stupid and long process in which you most likely would get killed every time.

[HMXDave]

R.O.B. the robot is in the new Super Smash Bros.

He even has a gyro attack where he shoots a little spinny top at you.

[LZ_69]

I have both of those zappers actually, although I can't seem to find my original anywhere. I actually loaded up SMB/Duck Hunt up about 3 months ago and had a blast with it.

While we're dishing out hard NES games, one of my favorites from back in the day was Bionic Commando. And they're redoing it in all HD graphics. It looks sa-weet.

http://www.bioniccommando.com

Ahh!! man, I saw the trailer promo on the PSN, that's the one your talking about right? (I can't access the link :() cus there is also another one coming out. Anyway, the one in 2D graphics looks fantastic, can't wait to get it.:cool:

[Bonez]

that game was kickass but frickin hard

Word...my mom used to slay that game. She was the one who made it to the last level...I only got as far as the graveyard. Freaking Nintendo dying, grrr.

It on the nintendo8 site, and I have it bookmarked. Maybe one day I'll get around to beating it, but it would be next to impossible because you can't save on that site.

I had the sweet orange Zapper. As a kid, I used to put it against the TV and shoot the ducks that way.

Last time I played though, I got through something like 40 levels of skeet shooting...my arm hurt for days. Of course Nintendo is always coming up with ways to thwart you, so as soon as I turned it off, my awesome score was gone.

[LZ_69]

R.O.B. the robot is in the new Super Smash Bros.

He even has a gyro attack where he shoots a little spinny top at you.

LOL!!!:D.......you're kidding, right??:confused:

[frostywolf]

I had/have an orange zapper. Good times, but I'll never forget that dog's laughter.

And not only is R.O.B. in Smash Bros. Brawl, but he's involved in the game's storyline...

[CM_Drunk]

I had the sweet orange Zapper. As a kid, I used to put it against the TV and shoot the ducks that way.

Last time I played though, I got through something like 40 levels of skeet shooting...my arm hurt for days. Of course Nintendo is always coming up with ways to thwart you, so as soon as I turned it off, my awesome score was gone.

LOL When I first got the NES I used to do that. Then I found that quite unfulfilling (even though I had no idea what that word meant back then) and I learned how to shoot.

And Skeet shotting on that game was underrated. I LOVED playing Skeet!

[Bonez]

I liked the skeet shooting more than the duck hunt actually. At least you didn't have that damn dog mocking you all the time with the skeet.

One of my friends actually took his zapper apart and rigged it to be automatic. To this day I have no idea how he did it, but it was hysterical to see three shots taking out one duck and then sitting there doing nothing for the second.

[HMXDave]

You know that if you play single duck mode, the controller controls the duck.

[espher]

Oh hi thread.

http://tasvideos.org/Movies-NES.html

[HMXDungHeaver]

You know that if you play single duck mode, the controller controls the duck.

You, sir, just blew my mind.

[CM_Drunk]

I. Had. No. Idea.

I would have tormented the hell out of my friends when I got stuck just sitting there when it was there turn.

I used to love doing that in Tiger Woods 03, when they would let you hit buttons to make bird calls and car horns during your buddies backswing. Id get so many beercans tossed at me for that one!

[Bonez]

That's crazy! I really might have to go in search of that freaking NES now to experiment.

[HMXDave]

I. Had. No. Idea.

I would have tormented the hell out of my friends when I got stuck just sitting there when it was there turn.

I used to love doing that in Tiger Woods 03, when they would let you hit buttons to make bird calls and car horns during your buddies backswing. Id get so many beercans tossed at me for that one!

Somehow, no one knows about the controlling the duck thing.

Yeah, wait until they're on level 10+ and the duck moves really fast.

You can screw over your friend by making the duck fly directly into the corner and it flies away.

[LZ_69]

Oh hi thread.

http://tasvideos.org/Movies-NES.html

Thanks for the link espher!! browsing through these games made me feel like I was 12 again...brought a tear to my eye!:o Too bad I can't play them while at work, 4:30 p.m. can't come soon enough!

[CM_Drunk]

LOL

Bucky O'Hare
Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers
Darkwing Duck (WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THAT ROBOT DUCK>>>>>)

C-L-A-S-S-I-C-S!


And my favorite NES game ever I think is on there....


River. City. Ransom.

Rock the f**k on!

[HMXDungHeaver]

LOL

Bucky O'Hare
Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers
Darkwing Duck (WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THAT ROBOT DUCK>>>>>)

C-L-A-S-S-I-C-S!

Are you talking about Steelbeak?

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:PlVN0Qvw4hybaM:http://www.retrojunk.com/img/art-images/steelbeak04.jpg

[espher]

Thanks for the link espher!! browsing through these games made me feel like I was 12 again...brought a tear to my eye!:o Too bad I can't play them while at work, 4:30 p.m. can't come soon enough!

I have pretty much all of them downloaded.

I'm a bit of a tool-assisted speedrun junkie. ;)

[HMXDungHeaver]

I have pretty much all of them downloaded.

I'm a bit of a tool-assisted speedrun junkie. ;)

I'm sure you probably know all about websites relating to speedruns, but I've used this one a bunch:

http://speeddemosarchive.com/gamelist/FullList.html

[CM_Drunk]

Are you talking about Steelbeak?

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:PlVN0Qvw4hybaM:http://www.retrojunk.com/img/art-images/steelbeak04.jpg



Nope. Im talking about Fenton Crackshell

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/1271/brightidea49494e5yz6.jpg

Who was an accountant by day, and he fought crime at night known as:


http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/4783/gizmoduckwebxo7.jpg

GIZMO DUCK

[HMXDungHeaver]

Nope. Im talking about Fenton Crackshell

Who was an accountant by day, and he fought crime at night known as:

GIZMO DUCK

That's just like me. Accountant by day, robotic crime-fighting rock band playing duck in the evenings.

[HMXDungHeaver]

For anyone who's jonesing to play some old NES games, here's a sick setup that I have going that really amplifies the experience. (Some parts are optional, but this is what I have)

What you'll need:

Computer
S-Video Cord
Audio Cord (or you can run the sound through your computer speakers)
NES Roms and Emulator
XBOX 360 Controller
XBOX 360 Controller USB Receiver (For Computer) (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/hardware/x/xbox360wirelessgamingreceiver/)

- Once you have everything, you set up the computer so that it displays through your television set using the S-Video Cord (and Audio cord if you want sound through the TV)

- Install the XBOX 360 driver in your computer so that it will recognize the controller.

- Change the Inputs for your Emulator so that it registers them from the XBOX Controller. I usually have the 360 'A' as the NES 'B' and the 360 'B' as the NES 'A' because they're reversed. Start/Select and DPad are obvious. (I actually mapped the joystick to the dpad and it works greatly).

After that you just fire up whatever game you want and you get to play it on your TV, wirelessly!!!!


EDIT: I'm also going to post this as it's own thread for those who don't check this one.

[Bonez]

Just as I suspected...took SMB2 and 3 for a bit of a spin before on nintendo8.com...I'm such a failure, lmao. I couldn't even make it past the first levels. Granted, you do have to use the keyboard, but honestly, it was just pathetic.

[visualdeity]

I'm not the only one who knows of the SMB2 conspiracy!

Anybody play Startropics? That game was intense. We never found out the ending though because our NES gave up the ghost on the last level. :(

You most certainly are not. My single most hated thing about Nintendo was how they messed with games when bringing them to the US back in the day... I mean come on, if it weren't for them we wouldn't still have people running around referring to FF6 as "FF3".

And taking a completely unrelated game, slapping Mario in it, and calling it "Mario 2" was totally cheesy. Seriously, that's low.

[CM_Drunk]

Imagine what would happen if they tried that today?

Lets say Konami took some cheesey shooter and named it MGS5 or something. People would literally die due to angry gamers

[HMXDungHeaver]

Imagine what would happen if they tried that today?

Lets say Konami took some cheesey shooter and named it MGS5 or something. People would literally die due to angry gamers

Yeah, I always knew SMB2 was too weird to be mario.

Here's a site that shows the 12 differences in the games:

http://nintendo.about.com/library/mariochanges/blmariodifferences1.htm

[CM_Drunk]

LOL Dung Heaver = Interweb Wizard.

Always throwing up links, articles and sexy goodness./.

[HMXDungHeaver]

LOL Dung Heaver = Interweb Wizard.

Always throwing up links, articles and sexy goodness./.

Haha, you know it. I'm just trying to improve the quality of life over here at the forums.

I think this change in SMB was pretty funny

http://z.about.com/d/nintendo/1/5/5/8/potionhighlight.jpg

I don't see how potions are mario-related?


And what's with the bird?


http://z.about.com/d/nintendo/1/5/-/8/chickenhead.jpg

[CM_Drunk]

And furthermore, why coulodnt Princess Toadstool bare a little mid-riff in the game. What? Americans couldnt handle it or something.

LOLOL

[HMXDave]

I've been tempted to get a Famicom off of Ebay and play Doki Doki Panic, among other titles.

[moshun]

I remember way back when I saw a picture of the famicom... how cute and small it was compared to our huge boxy nintendo with the stupid catridge lid. But if you want to get a famicom just to play those smaller japanese cartridges, I remember my bro had some kind of adapter that you plug the japanese games into to make it fit in the american NES. I distinctly remember it having a Honeywell logo on it too.

[HMXDave]

Thanks for the tip Moshun. But I was more interested in getting a Famicom for collectable reasons. It's not really about playing the Japanese games, that's just a bonus.

[LZ_69]

Haha, you know it. I'm just trying to improve the quality of life over here at the forums.

I think this change in SMB was pretty funny

http://z.about.com/d/nintendo/1/5/5/8/potionhighlight.jpg

I don't see how potions are mario-related?


And what's with the bird?


http://z.about.com/d/nintendo/1/5/-/8/chickenhead.jpg

Wasn't the whole story of SMB2 was about the fact the Mario was dreaming?? so the whole potion, eggs, turnips(or whatever they where), dinosaurs and whatnot, was just all part of Mario's wacked out dream?

Either that or Mario had one to many mushrooms.:p

[CBR1kRR]

What about Adams Family. Man I hated that game. I never could beat that one.

I loved Rygar but I don't remember it very well.

[HMXDungHeaver]

Revived!!!