View Full Version : x96 on Bass? x64 on other instruments?
Edgehopper
09-21-2007, 02:57 PM
On the IGN video, it shows a team x2 multiplier when one player uses rock power, and a team x4 when two players use rock power.
1. Does this keep going if you add in more players' rock power? Since it looks like drum and vocal power trigger only at certain points (fills and freeform respectively), it may not be possible to trigger those at the same time, but there shouldn't be a problem triggering 3 at a time. Does the progression go 2-4-6-8, or 2-4-8-16?
2. If the latter, then combined with a Bass on full streak, you could get an effective x96 multiplier. A single chord would be worth 4800 points. That's one way to drive up the score...
foolosophy
09-21-2007, 03:03 PM
I would highly doubt they would go up to 16, it just seems unreasonable.
Bakkster
09-22-2007, 01:09 AM
2. If the latter, then combined with a Bass on full streak, you could get an effective x96 multiplier. A single chord would be worth 4800 points. That's one way to drive up the score...
True, but you'd have to be playing a song with double-stops to get 4.8k, I'd stick with the more likely 2.4k.
Another reason I plan to play bass: MASSIVE score ;)
Akaymay
09-22-2007, 01:11 AM
It'll be classified like this:
The max multiplier for the drums, mic, and a guitar will be 4x, with star power, 8x
The Max for bass will be 6x, and 12x with star power
They made more for the bass because, well, it doesnt get anything else that great...
Bakkster
09-22-2007, 01:23 AM
They made more for the bass because, well, it doesnt get anything else that great...
You haven't listened to Highway Star, Tom Sawyer, Won't Get Fooled Again, or Dani California lately, have you?
Kaboobi
09-22-2007, 01:27 AM
It'll be classified like this:
The max multiplier for the drums, mic, and a guitar will be 4x, with star power, 8x
The Max for bass will be 6x, and 12x with star power
They made more for the bass because, well, it doesnt get anything else that great...
Each time you use rock power/star power/band power/whatever it increases the GLOBAL multiplier x2. So, say if the guitar and drums used power, the global multiplier would be 4x, so if they everyone had had 4x streaks (and the bass 6x) going they would get 16x total multiplier each (24x bass). I'm not sure whether it goes up to 8x or 16x though.
Akaymay
09-22-2007, 02:45 AM
You haven't listened to Highway Star, Tom Sawyer, Won't Get Fooled Again, or Dani California lately, have you?
Of course I have, but I just don't find much fun in bass. It's just an ambiance instrument. Except in YYZ.
Bakkster
09-22-2007, 02:49 AM
Of course I have, but I just don't find much fun in bass. It's just an ambiance instrument. Except in YYZ.
It's not 'ambiance', it's what drives the music. I can understand if you don't like bass, but you can't say it's not as important as any of the other instruments.
Xzyliac
09-22-2007, 09:25 AM
It's not 'ambiance', it's what drives the music. I can understand if you don't like bass, but you can't say it's not as important as any of the other instruments.
Nice going Akaymay. You pissed off the bassist.
Don't you guys know not to **** with a bassist?
Bobble
09-22-2007, 09:45 AM
Nice going Akaymay. You pissed off the bassist.
Don't you guys know not to **** with a bassist?
LOL he must've hated GH2 then, "You must have a mini-fridge in your practice space, it's more important than a bassist."
That aside, I see what he's saying, it's not that bass isn't important it's that it often doesn't have as much activity as the others. I'd say that the vocalist and bassist should get the extra multiplier. Lead will have more solos and drums have their solos and free sessions, and are usually constantly goin, I couldn't imagine rock without the bass but the bass is usually obviously less active than the lead. Even in Tom Sawyer which you mention, the lead is more active than the bass because, even though Rush is known for its awesome bassist, in most of their songs it spends most of the time shadowing the lead and then when it has more active sections the lead is soloing or just as active.
Bakkster
09-22-2007, 10:12 AM
LOL he must've hated GH2 then, "You must have a mini-fridge in your practice space, it's more important than a bassist."
That aside, I see what he's saying, it's not that bass isn't important it's that it often doesn't have as much activity as the others. I'd say that the vocalist and bassist should get the extra multiplier. Lead will have more solos and drums have their solos and free sessions, and are usually constantly goin, I couldn't imagine rock without the bass but the bass is usually obviously less active than the lead. Even in Tom Sawyer which you mention, the lead is more active than the bass because, even though Rush is known for its awesome bassist, in most of their songs it spends most of the time shadowing the lead and then when it has more active sections the lead is soloing or just as active.
Yeah, at first I was happy when GH2 was announced to have bass, but it turned out to be a HUGE letdown. Their song selection was entirely based on the guitar, and it seemed like they only looked for good bass in John the Fisherman, YYZ, and Tripping on a Hole in a Paper Heart. Seems like RB has already fixed that.
And I totally agree with what you're saying. Bass is a support role. It takes a certain type of person to get in the mindset "I may not be in the spotlight, but if it weren't for me, everything would sound like S###." Just imagine rock music without a bassist.... pitiful. I think the 6x multiplier is a good way to recognize that: reward accuracy and execution on bass and blistering solos on guitar.
Bobble
09-22-2007, 10:25 AM
I agree, I love bass, swims in my blood. As much as I love lead, bass, although a support instrument has its own sound and sets the tone/sound for the entire band basically. Bass lines just stand out fantastically too even with the wailing guitar, the vocals, the blistering drum solos, the bass is the only instrument that promotes harmony and supplements the vocals, drums and lead. And I was definitely pissed that GH2 CRAPPED all over bass. There were a few songs like you said that were good, and some of the bonus songs too, but they really didn't pick many good bass tracks which is why I'm hoping the bass is truly done correctly in RB, they've already done FAR better than GH2, easy. I hope there are some free sessions for the bass like there are for lead and drums though, done well it can sound particularly cool, and if everyone's jammin out I don't see any reason to leave the bass out.
milkman4591
09-22-2007, 10:43 PM
LOL he must've hated GH2 then, "You must have a mini-fridge in your practice space, it's more important than a bassist."
Everytime I read that quote, I wanted to stab somebody. And every god damn time I loaded a bass song, quess which lodaing screen I got haha. Thanks
Bakkster
09-23-2007, 12:54 AM
Everytime I read that quote, I wanted to stab somebody. And every god damn time I loaded a bass song, quess which lodaing screen I got haha. Thanks
Yeah, I think the problem with GH is it's kinda helped foster this idea in people that lead guitarists are more important than everyone else, and if you play lead you get something magical or special. You can see it here when people say "OMG, guitar is not hard enough". Looks like HMX is atoning for their sins by giving the chance to play everything, and reminding people that not all songs have a blistering solo.
R0ck3r
09-23-2007, 06:02 AM
Yeah, I think the problem with GH is it's kinda helped foster this idea in people that lead guitarists are more important than everyone else, and if you play lead you get something magical or special. You can see it here when people say "OMG, guitar is not hard enough". Looks like HMX is atoning for their sins by giving the chance to play everything, and reminding people that not all songs have a blistering solo.
Yeah, if you want to go play something hard on guitar just go buy GH3 and completely forget about this game. GH2 screwed up Heart Shaped Box horribly with vocals and they added parts that weren't even in the actual song (solo, actual song doesn't have a solo). I have no clue as to why they added that in there, not every song has a solo and they even had some songs in there that didn't. They probably did that to other songs but I either don't listen to those bands alot or I have never even heard of them.
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