Drum Pedal Question for the Pros

[smokinjoe]

If you had to choose between the Tama Iron Cobra or the Pearl 2000 Power shifter Eliminator which one would you choose. I tend to have a heavy foot and usually play heel down. Just wondering if anyone has either of these pedals and what they think of them. Yes I am going to do this for RockBand and mod it out as well. Just need maybe some advice on which might be the best for the buck as they both are around the same price range.

[davidshek]

Well both of those are quite good, so it's really hard to recommend one over the other.

I personally use Eliminators. I used to use the Iron Cobra Power Glide when I had a Tama drum kit, but when I got my new Pearl Masters kit a few years ago, I switched to Pearl pedals as well and I really like them a lot.

What I like post about the Eliminator is that it's way more adjustable than the Iron Cobra. Everything from the footplate to interchangeable cams, there's just a lot more you can do with the Eliminator to get it to feel exactly right for your playing style.

But your question isn't really an "apples to apples" comparison. You asked about the Pearl Eliminator, which is one specific model of pedal, and tried to compare it to the Tama Iron Cobra, which isn't one pedal, it's a series of pedals. The Iron Cobra series includes the Power Glide, Rolling Glide, Velo-Glide, Flexi Glide, etc. Several different pedals.

So which one specifically were you asking about? :)

[Serpentd]

The Pearl Powershifer 2000B/C hands down. I've used both your talking about and whatever the Tama can do the Pearl can do better. And this is comming from a Tama user. I have an older Iron Cobra, and they will ALWAYS be great pedals. But these new Pearls allow so much tuning that escpecially with the 4 interchangable cams you just can't beat them. Impossible.

However, are you familiar with tuning a drum pedal? If not then the Pearl may be overkill adjustment wise and frustrate you. But if you have the patience then this pedal is what you need.

Also, for the price you should really just look into the Pearl P120. It can do everthing the 2000 can other then change the cams. And it sounds like you will want to stick with the black (original) chain cam regarless. Just a thought. They are all excellent pedals. Don't let the price of the 120P fool you. I have 2 of them. I also have 2 Iron Cobras. I don't have the 2000/C yet.

I would go with the 2000C it's such an awesome pedal.

[smokinjoe]

The Tama I'm talking about is the Powerglide P-900. Actually I have already gotten this one but find my foot slipping towards the chain, took off the toe rest as I use shoes and find it gets in the way. Also, I find that when I try to keep it buried in the pad I get it vibrates causing mi****s. But back to your question there both about the same price but I'm not loving the Tama at this point. So just wondered about the Pearl as it's a few bucks more but I also have 30 days to try it out as well.

[IBitePrettyHard]

I use an Iron Cobra, and I love it. I actually bought it to replace my DW 5000. I prefered it over the DW because the balance just seemed better.

Can't say I've tried the Pearl though, so my opinion won't be of much help, lol.

[smokinjoe]

Ibite, actually I was trying to figure out where you put your switch and magnets on the cobra. Also I like to bury the pedal and it seems to just vibrate the hell out of my pad and drums as well causing mi****s. If you have any suggestions to this please let me know or your set up. I have the back strut removed and the pad under the front strut as I like to play with my foot closer inside. Any help would be appreciated or you can just stop by and adjust the whole set up for me :D

[hamsterstyle]

If you're going to spend the money and want the best pedal available, the DW 9000 is still the nicest, smoothest pedal I've ever used. In all honesty, I can't afford it right now and have been using the DW 5000 for the last five or six years. Still works great, but I'd love to get my hands on the 9.

[Serpentd]

I have personally never tried the DW hardware or pedals. But isn't the 9000 about a $300 dollar pedal? I would love to try that puppy out. My deal is I have 2 bass drums, so yeah...I would need two of these bad boys. Might worth looking into, just not this week.;):)

[hamsterstyle]

I have personally never tried the DW hardware or pedals. But isn't the 9000 about a $300 dollar pedal? I would love to try that puppy out. My deal is I have 2 bass drums, so yeah...I would need two of these bad boys. Might worth looking into, just not this week.;):)

Seriously dude, unless you have the money to spend on them, don't even try 'em. You're going to be like, "holy crap" when you try it and if you can't afford them, you're just going to be pissed. lol.

[Serpentd]

Seriously dude, unless you have the money to spend on them, don't even try 'em. You're going to be like, "holy crap" when you try it and if you can't afford them, you're just going to be pissed. lol.

Sh*t bro, now your getting me all flustered about these pedals. But I will take your advice and not give them a go untill I have some cash in hand.;) Oh by the way thanks dude, not that I don't already have enough money in my set. LOL. Ah hell, what's another $550-600 bucks for my drums.

I have read a LOT of reviews of these pedals and never seen anyone say that they were'nt the best pedal they ever tried. This is from like well over 100 reviews too. So damn it. Now I want to go to the drum store and play.;):) I might be gone for awhile everyone. Hahahaha.:)

[smokinjoe]

It's funny you guys are talking about the DW9000 because I passed up a chance on Ebay to bid on a brand new one in the box never used. I could have won it for around 160.00! I was like well all reviews say there really great, but that is still alot of $$$. Oh well I guess I will still give the Pearl a try and see what happens.

[theViper79]

I use the Iron cobra personally and have been for 3 to 4 years, I had a pearl stock pedal before that. I love the Iron Cobra though

[Serpentd]

It's funny you guys are talking about the DW9000 because I passed up a chance on Ebay to bid on a brand new one in the box never used. I could have won it for around 160.00! I was like well all reviews say there really great, but that is still alot of $$$. Oh well I guess I will still give the Pearl a try and see what happens.

Dude, you will be exceptionaly happy with the Pearl bro. The DW would be considered for real drums and I really don't think you would notice that awesomeness in RB. The Pearl your looking at is even overkill for RB. But I is a killer pedal. Just be prepared for the adjustment learning curve.

By the way, did you check out Cenas new review for the new "Rock Pedal"? Dude, looks very promising and a perfect fit for RB IMHO. I think you should at least check out his review. After all he's been a drummer for 30 years and knows what he's talking about. I am looking into getting that pedal personally for the RB drums. It has just the right amount of adjustment I think that are important for RB drumming. Just a suggestion. Plus it uses a proxsymatry(SP?) sensor unlike any of the other pedals out there that is adjustable for use with or without a beater/practice pad. Dude, check it out. Plus it's only like $75 bucks ready to go out of the box. You can't beat that.;)

[orange_black]

The thing that i keep asking myself... is it worth it to put that much money into a pedal thats going to be modded for rock band?

i dont see it... hell i dont even have one of those high class pedals on my real set... lol "its all in the foot" ;)

again... 300+ bones for a rockband pedal :eek:

[Serpentd]

The thing that i keep asking myself... is it worth it to put that much money into a pedal thats going to be modded for rock band?

i dont see it... hell i dont even have one of those high class pedals on my real set... lol "its all in the foot" ;)

again... 300+ bones for a rockband pedal :eek:

I agree it's "all in the foot". NO pedal will hit the bass for you. However, there is still nothing like haveing great equipment...at least when your ready for it. A good pedal has a different feel and usually gives you more control when your doing complex bass work. Especially double bass work. I don't mean just a steady fast double bass, but using your double bass with rudiments like Paradidles and whatnot. Control is key, and you can usually get this from the better pedals. But it ALWAYS boils down to personal preference.

I can spend up to an hour just trying out different cymbals when I want a new crash or something. Same with thrones, Heads, Pedals and so on. You "usually" get what you pay for. However I have some extra hihats for example that I love made by Camber. Cheap for hihats, but has the sound I wanted. So price isn't ALWAYS the key to what is what you are looking for. But most of the time it is...for me at least.;):)

[davidshek]

Plus it uses a proxsymatry(SP?) sensor unlike any of the other pedals out there

Every time I think you've done your worst misspelling, you whip out something new and amazing, Serpent. :D

proximity
–noun
nearness in place, time, order, occurrence, or relation.

http://www.dictionary.com/ is your friend :)

Or just use Firefox, it has a built-in spell checker.

[Serpentd]

Every time I think you've done your worst misspelling, you whip out something new and amazing, Serpent. :D

proximity
–noun
nearness in place, time, order, occurrence, or relation.

http://www.dictionary.com/ is your friend :)

Or just use Firefox, it has a built-in spell checker.


Dude, actually I do use the online dictionary A LOT! Just not every time as you well know. Plus, I know my spelling has to give you a chuckle or a *shake your head* kind of reaction.:)

I promise I will work better on my spelling bro. Just for you though. Not for anyone else mind you. Well, and for myself.;)

Thanks for correcting that one for me. It was a doozy of a word for me.LOL

[orange_black]

I agree it's "all in the foot". NO pedal will hit the bass for you. However, there is still nothing like haveing great equipment...at least when your ready for it. A good pedal has a different feel and usually gives you more control when your doing complex bass work. Especially double bass work. I don't mean just a steady fast double bass, but using your double bass with rudiments like Paradidles and whatnot. Control is key, and you can usually get this from the better pedals. But it ALWAYS boils down to personal preference.

I can spend up to an hour just trying out different cymbals when I want a new crash or something. Same with thrones, Heads, Pedals and so on. You "usually" get what you pay for. However I have some extra hihats for example that I love made by Camber. Cheap for hihats, but has the sound I wanted. So price isn't ALWAYS the key to what is what you are looking for. But most of the time it is...for me at least.;):)

actually my pedal is a sonor... i know.. "sonor doesnt make hardware they make drums".. yea but it is. ive had it for... about 12 years now. Ive been thinking of getting a new pedal... prolly the pearl power shifter eliminator. That thing is so sexy... i want to kiss it. ... with tongue.

:)

[hamsterstyle]

Dude, you will be exceptionaly happy with the Pearl bro. The DW would be considered for real drums and I really don't think you would notice that awesomeness in RB. The Pearl your looking at is even overkill for RB. But I is a killer pedal. Just be prepared for the adjustment learning curve.

By the way, did you check out Cenas new review for the new "Rock Pedal"? Dude, looks very promising and a perfect fit for RB IMHO. I think you should at least check out his review. After all he's been a drummer for 30 years and knows what he's talking about. I am looking into getting that pedal personally for the RB drums. It has just the right amount of adjustment I think that are important for RB drumming. Just a suggestion. Plus it uses a proxsymatry(SP?) sensor unlike any of the other pedals out there that is adjustable for use with or without a beater/practice pad. Dude, check it out. Plus it's only like $75 bucks ready to go out of the box. You can't beat that.;)

Unless I have a full endorsement from DW, there is no way in hell I'd mod it to use for RockBand. Everything I was talking about was application for real drums. You'd have to be independently wealthy or on crack to buy a DW9000 to use for a video game. That's like buying a steering wheel off a Ferrari to use for Grand Turismo.

[DirtyDave117]

I have a DW 9000 double pedal. I'd definitaly recommend it to anyone if you can afford the $450 asking price. If I were you I would go for max adjustability. Which would be in this order: DW 9000, DW 8000, Pearl, Tama, as far as I know. BTW the single DW 9000 pedals are $250-$300 each I think. F.Y.I. for your double base drum setup. The DW 8000's are also VERY adjustable too and cheaper but just not quite ass much as the 9000's.

[WillDrum4Food]

Right now, I've been using a DW 7000 double-pedal on my Rolands for the last couple of years and love it tremendously.

Back when I started drumming (almost 25 years ago now), the kit I was using in high school was an old GHOST pedal:

http://www.billyrhythm.com/drums/ghost/

The thing was a frickin' plank.

Training myself in a heel-down technique, I was able to build up some serious speed on that thing.

Now, many years later, that training with crappy equipment paid off because the control I get with this DW 7000 is fantastic.