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gh2masterwellalmost
09-29-2007, 03:17 AM
Be nice people, and discuss your opinions on the console.

Eman311
09-29-2007, 03:22 AM
Wii sucks, ps3 sucks, 360 rules.

/thread

ThePaska
09-29-2007, 03:38 AM
I used to be in love with my Wii when it first came out, but it's really just not done it for me for a while. The only game I ever loved on it was Zelda and that was a Gamecube game. I've since gotten a 360 and I can't put it down, between playing Gears, Bioshock and Halo 3. Wii just really isn't that fun right now, when Smash Bros comes out it might be a different story though.

LZ_Reborn
09-29-2007, 04:23 AM
I have to say PS3 cus that's the one I have, lots of extras compared to other consoles, games are starting to pour for the PS3 and Home is almost here(the beta version anyway) so yeah, I pretty happy with it, and when it comes down to it, that's what really matters, that your happy with the console that you got.

TheRocker
09-29-2007, 04:32 AM
Playstation 3 . why ? I have always been a Playstation gamer since Ps1 :D Home as LZ said is around the corner wich is great for games (RockBand + Home = Super Awesome) , Psn isn't the most reliable and best service out there but it has been doing great we've gotten a bunch of demos , add-ons , wallpapers , videos (Keep it up Sony) The games a lot of games are being develop and look great so far , i cant wait for RockBand thats my #1 game :D , R&C Tools Of Destructions That too , I love that we have Blu-ray it offer developers to develop away without any restrictions (25gb or 50gb) , so yeah I Love my Ps3 and thats all there is to it :D

I use this :D smiley a lot so what , deal with it.

Elnino
09-29-2007, 04:41 AM
The only game I really want to play for the 360 is Halo 3. That's why i'm getting a PS3. None of those other games for other consoles aren't really exciting. But PS3 has LittleBigPlanet and Metal Gear Solid 4. And LittleBigPlanet should keep me occupied for....a few years unlike alot of other games. And MGS4 has alot of replay value because there is always somthing new to find out when you play the game a second time. Also Home seems like alot of fun and you can customize your PS3 so no one has the exact PS3 as you.

I have also always been with PS. It was my first console. I've never owned any other console besides PS1-2.

peachpunker63
09-29-2007, 04:42 AM
Ps3 Wooooooooooo!

SmokaCola
09-29-2007, 04:47 AM
All the above, I had every "last generation" system and a high end gaming PC. I still have a High-End gaming PC, but now I have a 360. Had the option to get a PS3, but instead I walkd into a store on Nov.17 and bought a nice 360 with a few games. No point in buying a system if it didn't have any good games at the time (still doesn't but that's ok, i'm still getting one because eventually it'll kick ass). I like to have a lot of options when it comes to video games, so I get every system from every company everytime they release something new :p (unless it's a remixed version like the DS Lite or PSP Slim).

DShiz1029
09-29-2007, 04:50 AM
<~former Playstation fanboy, but I converted to Xbox. Though my 360 bricked, I am still sticking with them because of just the whole experience of Xbox Live, and achievements are nice.

PS3...my only beef...too expensive and its HUGE!

Wii...not my cup of tea, I dont like the controllers and the games are more family oriented for the most part. I like a little violence and more mature content.

SmokaCola
09-29-2007, 05:07 AM
I use to be a PS fanboy as well :p then I grew out of that stage and decided to everything a chance, glad I did too. Or I seriously would have never given the GH series a chance.

battle_axe_of_doom
09-29-2007, 05:33 AM
well since this thread is supposed to be without bias all i'm gonna say is i haven't played the wii or ps3 enough to say that they blow but i do have a 360 and i luv it a lot so yeah

Kang_Zircon
09-29-2007, 09:17 AM
I would have picked PS2 except it's not on your list... So I voted for PS3 because it has Blu Ray and plays PS2 games. Plus Heavenly Sword is the only console-exclusive game I've had any interest in for the latest consoles.

XBox has never had an exclusive game that I really wanted to play. And I just don't like the controls of the Wii.

gh2masterwellalmost
09-29-2007, 10:56 AM
I would have picked PS2 except it's not on your list... So I voted for PS3 because it has Blu Ray and plays PS2 games. Plus Heavenly Sword is the only console-exclusive game I've had any interest in for the latest consoles.

XBox has never had an exclusive game that I really wanted to play. And I just don't like the controls of the Wii.

I didnt add PS2 because this is a next-gen thing. The PS2 had a complete monopoly (practically) of the console market, and I think Sony wanted to ride the wave when the Playstation brand was most popular - they thought "we could win the format wars with blu-ray in ps3s... though more gamers wont use them, the playstation brand will carry us through the top price point". Wrong. The exclusive games for PS3 are just poor - we got FFXIII which we all know won't be what FF fans want because they want 7 again. We got Killzone 2 - the poor halo imitator. We got MGS4 - the story is fading Kojima, do I care about Snake when hes 60-something?

DShiz1029
09-29-2007, 10:57 AM
I didnt add PS2 because this is a next-gen thing. The PS2 had a complete monopoly (practically) of the console market, and I think Sony wanted to ride the wave when the Playstation brand was most popular - they thought "we could win the format wars with blu-ray in ps3s... though more gamers wont use them, the playstation brand will carry us through the top price point". Wrong. The exclusive games for PS3 are just poor - we got FFXIII which we all know won't be what FF fans want because they want 7 again. We got Killzone 2 - the poor halo imitator. We got MGS4 - the story is fading Kojima, do I care about Snake when hes 60-something?

Ya know...Im an Xbox guy, but I would love to play Killzone 2. The graphics and detail on that game look astronomical. I liked the first Killzone.

gh2masterwellalmost
09-29-2007, 11:01 AM
Ya know...Im an Xbox guy, but I would love to play Killzone 2. The graphics and detail on that game look astronomical. I liked the first Killzone.

You liked Killzone 1? Wow. I remember I had only one mate with PS2 online and we played Killzone, the week it came out. It had some small number of users, something stupid like 2,000 which Halo gets x100, and online wasn't QUITE there. I can forgive Halo 2 + 3's sub-halo1 campaign because its online makes up for it. Killzone I'm sure was a good game, but I couldn't see past it because of the hype. The words "halo beater" were heard years before its release.

psyborg
09-29-2007, 11:57 AM
as a hardcore gamer for almost 20 years, I have to go with Wii.

gh2masterwellalmost
09-29-2007, 11:59 AM
as a hardcore gamer for almost 20 years, I have to go with Wii.

I love my Wii for defo, but it takes a back seat with the 360. When my 360 ROD and I just had the wii, it was hard to have the degree of hardcore-gaming fun I was used to. The Wii is great for small bites of Mario Strikers or w.e., but for a hardcore gamer like myself you need a hardcore console beside it, a 360 or PS3 depending on your tastes.

psyborg
09-29-2007, 12:12 PM
I have a 360 and as well, after being RRoD'd twice I was more than happy playing Metroid Prime 3: Corruption & Resident Evil 4: Superior Edition (great games on their own but damn the controls are amazing, pretty much make dual analog obsolete IMO) and ofcourse VC games.

Not too mention the stuff coming out for the Wii is way more exciting that the 360, I've been a pc gamer for years so a million sci-fi shooters just doesn't do it for me anymore. Super Mario Galaxy and No More Heroes FTW

PS3 looks like it has some really cool games coming up as well, been slightly considering trading my 360 towards one.

Chthonic
09-29-2007, 01:58 PM
No offense, bud, but trying to host a flame-free system wars discussion is like trying to make liquid-free coffee.

Quinarvy
09-29-2007, 02:29 PM
No offense, bud, but trying to host a flame-free system wars discussion is like trying to make liquid-free coffee.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolt_gum

Kang_Zircon
09-29-2007, 03:59 PM
I love my Wii for defo, but it takes a back seat with the 360. When my 360 ROD and I just had the wii, it was hard to have the degree of hardcore-gaming fun I was used to. The Wii is great for small bites of Mario Strikers or w.e., but for a hardcore gamer like myself you need a hardcore console beside it, a 360 or PS3 depending on your tastes.

I think you're going to have to explain what you mean by "hardcore gamer."

I consider myself a hardcore gamer, but I clearly have entirely different views on what makes a good game. I don't play FPS games, and online multiplayer is the least of my concerns. I prefer multiplayer games that allow for meaningful dialog between players. (Rock Band will be great for this when you get four people in a room together). This is also one of the only qualities I like about MMO's - the fact that there can be real communities and economies at work.

It would probably take several pages to describe what I like in single-player games, so I'll just sum up by naming the genres I typically play; RPG, Action, Action-RPG, Strategy, and "design" games (I don't want to be confusing by saying simulators, but things like The Sims and Sim City, but also Graffitti Kingdom & Magic Pengel).

Simonious
09-29-2007, 05:24 PM
360. Repairs are a ***** (at least it's not rendered useless, I'm looking at you Sony) but some awesome as hell shooters and such. PC would be second, just for the great range, and MMOs.

DShiz1029
09-29-2007, 06:06 PM
No offense, bud, but trying to host a flame-free system wars discussion is like trying to make liquid-free coffee.

You've never had a chocolate covered coffee beans?

fried_blowney
09-29-2007, 06:28 PM
PS3, end of story.

gh2masterwellalmost
09-29-2007, 08:36 PM
I think you're going to have to explain what you mean by "hardcore gamer."

What I define as hardcore gamer is probably different to your definition. I define hardcore gamer as a player of the core genres of gaming - FPS, RPG, RTS, MMORPG etc. basically all the genres which can go online and have an EXTREMELY competitive streak to them. Anything that when speed run is also hardcore gaming, but the likes of platform games, The Sims, Guitar Hero, games that appeal to a lot of audiences and have a sorta "pick-up-and-play" style are casual gaming. These games can be played to death (I myself was addicted to both GH and The Sims) but at heart they are casual gaming. That is not to say that Casual Gamers have some sorta "disability" compared to hardcore gamers, but its more that hardcore gamers play the "backbone genres" of gaming, and VERY competitively.

Kang_Zircon
09-30-2007, 03:10 AM
Well, if you're defining hardcore as it relates to competitiveness, I can understand why xBox is the best system for you.

I think of hardcore as just a general form of dedication. People who make their own chain mail and run out into the woods to LARP for three days straight are the most hardcore gamers I know - and that's without even touching a console.

The reason I'd pick the PS3 is because - if you look at all the games that it can play, not just the games made for the system, it has an enormous library. (there's still ps1 games I'd like to find and play) And there's a lot more variety in the types of games available. I like finding wacky games no one's heard of like Steambot Chronicles and playing through them several different ways. My favorite thing to do in a game is to come up with some unique or off-the-wall strategy that is as, if not more effective, than playing the game as it was intended. I have my own goals for how I play games, so leaderboards and the like have little meaning to me.

gh2masterwellalmost
09-30-2007, 03:14 AM
Well, if you're defining hardcore as it relates to competitiveness, I can understand why xBox is the best system for you.

I think of hardcore as just a general form of dedication. People who make their own chain mail and run out into the woods to LARP for three days straight are the most hardcore gamers I know - and that's without even touching a console.

The reason I'd pick the PS3 is because - if you look at all the games that it can play, not just the games made for the system, it has an enormous library. (there's still ps1 games I'd like to find and play) And there's a lot more variety in the types of games available. I like finding wacky games no one's heard of like Steambot Chronicles and playing through them several different ways. My favorite thing to do in a game is to come up with some unique or off-the-wall strategy that is as, if not more effective, than playing the game as it was intended. I have my own goals for how I play games, so leaderboards and the like have little meaning to me.

Though the PS3 arrogance settled in with the "i see why xbox is the best system for you", it shows you're a casual gamer. Gaming does either one of 2 things: It sells you a fantastic adventure, or a fantastic competitiveness. Halo 3 fits in number 2+1. Bioshock fits in 1. Killzone fits in neither.

Believe me, I really want to own Spyro the Dragon and Crash Bandicoot again - thats why I'm not buying a £400 PS3 but a £10 PSX.

Kang_Zircon
09-30-2007, 03:30 AM
Do I come off as arrogant? Anyway according to this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardcore_gamer)definition, I'm a hardcore gamer.

In all honesty, though, if it weren't for RB promising so much DLC, I wouldn't even be considering a new console for maybe another year.

DShiz1029
09-30-2007, 03:35 AM
Guys, does it even really matter whos a hardcore gamer...I mean if you know yourself well, who cares what anyone else's definition is.

jq71586
09-30-2007, 03:38 AM
Guys, does it even really matter whos a hardcore gamer...I mean if you know yourself well, who cares what anyone else's definition is.

Exactly. This guy knows the score. I bought the system I wanted because it had more things that fit me and what I wanted out of a system. I hate the saying that goes around "You aren't a hardcore gamer unless you own a 360." That is a load a crap. A hardcore gamer should be a person that loves video games, regardless of platform.

Kang_Zircon
09-30-2007, 03:55 AM
Exactly. This guy knows the score. I bought the system I wanted because it had more things that fit me and what I wanted out of a system. I hate the saying that goes around "You aren't a hardcore gamer unless you own a 360." That is a load a crap. A hardcore gamer should be a person that loves video games, regardless of platform.

I'm done with that now. I was just confused by some of GH2master's earlier comments. I didn't understand the paring of the term "hardcore gamer" with a console, or even with video games, for that matter.

gh2masterwellalmost
09-30-2007, 04:51 AM
Guys, does it even really matter whos a hardcore gamer...I mean if you know yourself well, who cares what anyone else's definition is.

Yh yh I was jumping the gun again, soz mr Kang you're right, AGAIN, dshiz. You're a good member, see ya 'round.

battle_axe_of_doom
09-30-2007, 04:53 AM
hey you ps3 fans, other than mgs4 what are some ps3 exclusive games to look out for?? seriously thinking of buying a ps3 but i dont' want a system for just one game and blu-ray

gh2masterwellalmost
09-30-2007, 04:54 AM
hey you ps3 fans, other than mgs4 what are some ps3 exclusive games to look out for?? seriously thinking of buying a ps3 but i dont' want a system for just one game and blu-ray

Agreed. These format wars won't even matter as the lines between PC and TV blur and nothing is in a physical format anymore. I'm talking multiple, HD formats which can all be played by MANY free players with an iTunes style store.

TheRocker
09-30-2007, 04:58 AM
hey you ps3 fans, other than mgs4 what are some ps3 exclusive games to look out for?? seriously thinking of buying a ps3 but i dont' want a system for just one game and blu-ray

ratchet & clank
uncharted
Unreal tournament ( limited )
heavenly sword
final fantasy i guess
Killzone
haze
God of war 3
resistance 2

battle_axe_of_doom
09-30-2007, 04:59 AM
god of war3 is the only one in that list that interests me. never heard of/dont care for the rest though. meh i'll probably still buy it if i find that i have $500 to spare :\

gh2masterwellalmost
09-30-2007, 05:01 AM
ratchet & clank - A repetitive series which they've used the life out of. Reissue some of the originals and I'll be interested
uncharted - unless they're making PROPER Crash Bandicoot again I couldn't care less
Unreal tournament ( limited ) (Not Halo is it... much worse)
heavenly sword (Meh, the reviews were ok)
final fantasy i guess (Not an RPG fan)
Killzone (Nothing compared to Halo)
haze (Bring back Timesplitters)
God of war 3 (I do like this one)
resistance 2 (Again, not Halo)

Lets go through the list.

TheRocker
09-30-2007, 05:02 AM
Lets go through the list.
Halo isn't the best game out there you know.

battle_axe_of_doom
09-30-2007, 05:04 AM
every FPS in existence >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> halo

but plz lets not make this into yet another halo discussion. so let me add this to my original question : in the long run will it be good to have both a ps3 and a 360??

also lmao at liking halo and not liking UT

gh2masterwellalmost
09-30-2007, 05:04 AM
Halo isn't the best game out there you know.

But all the FPS there are crap. Because the best console FPS is Halo

battle_axe_of_doom
09-30-2007, 05:05 AM
actually its goldeneye

jq71586
09-30-2007, 05:05 AM
Lets go through the list.

Dude, you need to stop being such a Halo fanboy. If you love the game so much please take it somewhere else. This is not a Halo forum or a Halo thread for that matter.

TheRocker
09-30-2007, 05:07 AM
But all the FPS there are crap. Because the best console FPS is Halo

For YOU but not a lot of people like Halo example Battle_Axe_Of_Doom its a great FPS yeah but there are far better FPS but it all depends on Opinion.


Dude, you need to stop being such a Halo fanboy. If you love the game so much please take it somewhere else. This is not a Halo forum or a Halo thread for that matter.

Yeah

gh2masterwellalmost
09-30-2007, 05:07 AM
Dude, you need to stop being such a Halo fanboy. If you love the game so much please take it somewhere else. This is not a Halo forum or a Halo thread for that matter.

Like I explaind, the list where I reference Halo is in regards to FPS. When comparing console FPS there is only one word that you can think of (if you know enough about FPS that is): Halo

battle_axe_of_doom
09-30-2007, 05:08 AM
actually the one word that comes to mind in every sane, rational person's mind should be : goldeneye

gh2masterwellalmost
09-30-2007, 05:09 AM
actually its goldeneye

Back in its day for defo. But unless it was remade with online, it lags behind Halo 3, and for single player its behind Halo 1. A suggestion for my "games should be remade" possibly?

gh2masterwellalmost
09-30-2007, 05:13 AM
actually the one word that comes to mind in every sane, rational person's mind should be : goldeneye

See above, goldeneye was revolutionary FOR ITS TIME. Its been overtaken. In the same way that in the next few years, heck maybe months, we'll see a better online console multiplayer than Halo 3. Technology goes quick.

battle_axe_of_doom
09-30-2007, 05:16 AM
actually goldeney is timeless as is the original super mario bros, legend of zelda, etc etc etc

TheRocker
09-30-2007, 05:17 AM
Back in its day for defo. But unless it was remade with online, it lags behind Halo 3, and for single player its behind Halo 1. A suggestion for my "games should be remade" possibly?
It is Called


See above, goldeneye was revolutionary FOR ITS TIME. Its been overtaken. In the same way that in the next few years, heck maybe months, we'll see a better online console multiplayer than Halo 3. Technology goes quick.

Multi Quoting

Just because you say its the best it doesn't make it THE END.

gh2masterwellalmost
09-30-2007, 05:20 AM
actually goldeney is timeless as is the original super mario bros, legend of zelda, etc etc etc

I strongly disagree. Pick up an N64 with the awkward controller with 3 mates on split screen so you can see exactly where they're hiding or play Halo 3 and play against 8 random people accross the world with 0% lag where if you hate them you can mute em and can find over 2 mil players.

Goldeneye = ludite's playtoy.

battle_axe_of_doom
09-30-2007, 05:20 AM
honestly why should technology determine whats the best?? is it goldeneye's fault that the 64 didn't support online play?? is it ocarina of time's fault that it can't be as huge as modern day adventure/rpg games?? if the technology today is a lot better than back then, then why are those old ass games that are dated to youngsters like you, continously topping greatest games of all time list? you'll never see a list made from 2007 that includes a 2006/7 game in the top 5, never

TheRocker
09-30-2007, 05:23 AM
I strongly disagree. Pick up an N64 with the awkward controller with 3 mates on split screen so you can see exactly where they're hiding or play Halo 3 and play against 8 random people accross the world with 0% lag where if you hate them you can mute em and can find over 2 mil players.

Goldeneye = ludite's playtoy.

..Dude! How old are You ? Do you enjoy Pissing off people!? Because its working..

gh2masterwellalmost
09-30-2007, 06:46 AM
As with all things, we look at the past in rose-rinted glasses. I will look back at MY gaming past and say something like "gran turismo 2 was incredible and the best driving game ever". This is wrong. The people who make those lists are at the age where they can look back with rose tinted glasses at certain sections of gaming history.

battle_axe_of_doom
09-30-2007, 06:55 AM
so you're honestly going to sit there and say that all the great games from today are **** loads better than past games because of technology?? wow if anyone is looking at a certain decade with rose-tinted glasses its you

gh2masterwellalmost
09-30-2007, 06:59 AM
so you're honestly going to sit there and say that all the great games from today are **** loads better than past games because of technology?? wow if anyone is looking at a certain decade with rose-tinted glasses its you

EXACTLY ya got my point. You picked your decade of the 90s for gaming cos that was your best time, and you see the 90s through rose tinted glasses. I see the 2000s through rose tinted glasses etc.

Well done, you proved my point brilliantly.

battle_axe_of_doom
09-30-2007, 07:03 AM
actually no i choose games from different decades not the just the 90s. if i remember correctly perfect dark was released in 2000 or something and super mario bros was late 80s. i don't look at games due to a decade/technology, i look at games that own despite how "dated" they may seem now.

gh2masterwellalmost
09-30-2007, 07:06 AM
actually no i choose games from different decades not the just the 90s. if i remember correctly perfect dark was released in 2000 or something and super mario bros was late 80s. i don't look at games due to a decade/technology, i look at games that own despite how "dated" they may seem now.

Fine, it didnt have to be SPECIFICALLY the 90s, but theres a cut off point somewhere where you put on your rose tinted glasses and put em off. For myself, its from Sonic 2 to Halo 1 - then I started to get picky on games (but Halo remains close to my heart)

DShiz1029
09-30-2007, 07:08 AM
ratchet & clank
uncharted
Unreal tournament ( limited )
heavenly sword
final fantasy i guess
Killzone
haze
God of war 3
resistance 2


Im so jealous you PS3 owners get haze...that game looks amazing.

Kang_Zircon
09-30-2007, 01:34 PM
ratchet & clank
uncharted
Unreal tournament ( limited )
heavenly sword
final fantasy i guess
Killzone
haze
God of war 3
resistance 2

Also Little Big Planet, that's one I'm really interested in.

Other than that, I'd like to play God of War 3 (that ending in GoW2 was totally done to make me buy the sequel, dangit), Heavenly Sword, and the FF games.

FallenAce
10-01-2007, 09:02 AM
I don't have anything against PS3, but I don't own one. A friend of mine has both, and he plays his Xbox way more, but he's still happy with his PS3.

Eventually I'll get a PS3 because I'm a collector; I have a load of old consoles (TG-16 FTW), but I haven't seen enough on the PS3 games to sell me that machine... and every game that sounds exciting comes out and I hear a ton of negative feedback (like Lair). Makes it hard for me to convince myself I want one.

We should use this thread to CONVINCE each other to buy the machine we own. That way we increase our networking of same-console friends.

gh2masterwellalmost
10-01-2007, 09:10 AM
I don't have anything against PS3, but I don't own one. A friend of mine has both, and he plays his Xbox way more, but he's still happy with his PS3.

Eventually I'll get a PS3 because I'm a collector; I have a load of old consoles (TG-16 FTW), but I haven't seen enough on the PS3 games to sell me that machine... and every game that sounds exciting comes out and I hear a ton of negative feedback (like Lair). Makes it hard for me to convince myself I want one.

We should use this thread to CONVINCE each other to buy the machine we own. That way we increase our networking of same-console friends.

I've played on a PS3. Its beautiful. The controller is comfortable (I still think the lack of vibration makes a difference, but they ARE releasing the DS3). But, the game I played was Motorstorm, and I was yerning (spell check?) for some Forza, heck even Ridge Racer, Burnout etc. it was just so boring. Resistance Fall of Man seems like a good game but it fails to meet the industry FPS standards.

In the last console battle we saw 3 completely different consoles. We had the online, more hardcore and noob unfriendly Xbox. We had the PS2, the "every damn person has one" console, where it had several greats but a lack of classics. An all rounder. And we had the Gamecube, the thing that played a few FANTASTIC Nintendo games and everything else were shoddy ports or bad games.
This console battle we have 1 going for a new market and doing brilliantly, we have 2 going for the same market. But Sony have risked their Playstation brand too far to get their precious new format to win - Blu-Ray. We see that, with most good games coming out for both consoles, we have a £180 360 (Core that is) and £400 for a 360 with Blu-Ray, to put it one way. Or a £400 PS3 and a £180 Blu-Ray free PS3.

Its a shame. Playstation was a fantastic brand. But it risked it too far. Playstation has lost the console wars IMHO - it has few games left to sell it. Wii has won it by far. 360... meh, its the middle ground.

MartyMcFly
10-02-2007, 01:18 AM
This thread sucks. I thought there might be some good honest opinions. Because down the line, I'd like to get a Ps3. But the OP turned it into a flame war anyway. Not only about Ps3, but even Halo 3.

I own a 360, and I love it. But I don't bash the Ps3.
And this thread is a perfect reason why I hate Halo fanboys.

Halo is not the greatest game in the world. I'm a hardcore gamer because I play video games everyday. I don't have to play online in a stupid FPS game 24/7 to consider myself a real gamer.

I've learned my lesson to not bother arguing with you gh2master, but if you're gonna make a thread like this. Stick to your word, and don't make fun of the N64 and attempt to compare Goldeneye with Halo, they're obviously on 2 different levels.

gh2masterwellalmost
10-02-2007, 04:46 AM
This thread sucks. I thought there might be some good honest opinions. Because down the line, I'd like to get a Ps3. But the OP turned it into a flame war anyway. Not only about Ps3, but even Halo 3.

I own a 360, and I love it. But I don't bash the Ps3.
And this thread is a perfect reason why I hate Halo fanboys.

Halo is not the greatest game in the world. I'm a hardcore gamer because I play video games everyday. I don't have to play online in a stupid FPS game 24/7 to consider myself a real gamer.

I've learned my lesson to not bother arguing with you gh2master, but if you're gonna make a thread like this. Stick to your word, and don't make fun of the N64 and attempt to compare Goldeneye with Halo, they're obviously on 2 different levels.

Dude, in no particular order:

1) There has been no flaming at all. Throughout the entire thread. So stop picking on me on things I don't do, I'm getting sick of it.

2) I am not a Halo fanboy. It is by no means the greatest game I've ever played. Its the best Console Multiplayer I've played, but its no Counter Strike. And its single player... grrrrrrrr disappointing.

3) The thing with Goldeneye was that people view the past in rose tinted glasses. It is unrealistic to say that Sonic 2 was the best platform game of all time - but for me, as it was during my early days, it will be.

An opinion is an opinion, nothing more. My view on Goldeneye is equal to your view. So can you please stop following me round each thread flaming me and turning threads into pointless battle. You're yet another one to do it.

So stop derailing the thread and trolling, and simply add flame-free and interesting opinions to the discussion, if you can, but so far you have showed no ability to do so.

DShiz1029
10-02-2007, 04:56 AM
If we would all get along...........................

gh2masterwellalmost
10-02-2007, 05:03 AM
If we would all get along...........................

It would be a happier place. I do try and get along, but all 3 threads I've made, completely flame proof and kind, were abused. Heck, even a thread I wasn't in or had EVER VIEWED yet I got flamed by the trolls.

You just have to get on with the bullying, otherwise they've won. And I'm getting on with it atm.

So, console wars thread, the one with "attempt to be flame free" in the title, before it got savaged and raped by the trolls.

IbanezBassist_v2
10-02-2007, 05:03 AM
For real!

No offense to master, but when you posted a topic with the following title, you knew what the responses would entail.

To get back on topic, I am a proud owner of a PS3. I enjoy it very much. I love the setup and options I have available to me.

Sure the 360 has a larger library and a massive online community, but its also had a little more time to develop.

I'm being very patient with Sony to deliver high quality games and an online experience that will match or surpass the 360. The PS3 is also seeing alot more titles becoming available and with the huge holiday coming up, PS3 shows no signs of slowing down.

gh2masterwellalmost
10-02-2007, 05:05 AM
For real!

No offense to master, but when you posted a topic with the following title, you knew what the responses would entail.

To get back on topic, I am a proud owner of a PS3. I enjoy it very much. I love the setup and options I have available to me.

Sure the 360 has a larger library and a massive online community, but its also had a little more time to develop.

I'm being very patient with Sony to deliver high quality games and an online experience that will match or surpass the 360. The PS3 is also seeing alot more titles becoming available and with the huge holiday coming up, PS3 shows no signs of slowing down.

I understood it would be volatile. But volatile over consoles, not personal attacks, but I get that in every thread now. If I so much as post "yes" its trolled upon.

DShiz1029
10-02-2007, 05:06 AM
For real!

No offense to master, but when you posted a topic with the following title, you knew what the responses would entail.

To get back on topic, I am a proud owner of a PS3. I enjoy it very much. I love the setup and options I have available to me.

Sure the 360 has a larger library and a massive online community, but its also had a little more time to develop.

I'm being very patient with Sony to deliver high quality games and an online experience that will match or surpass the 360. The PS3 is also seeing alot more titles becoming available and with the huge holiday coming up, PS3 shows no signs of slowing down.

And yall get HAZE!!! F U!!! Lol, j/k.

gh2masterwellalmost
10-02-2007, 05:10 AM
I made a formula for PS3.

360 + Japanese Games and RPGS - Halo + Blu-Ray + Massive Price Tag = PS3

If you want Blu-Ray and Japanese RPGs, the PS3 is awesome. But, otherwise its a bit of a waste of time. Not that i'd turn down the PS3, but most good games out for PS3 are out for 360 too.

TheRocker
10-02-2007, 05:43 AM
I made a formula for PS3.

360 + Japanese Games and RPGS - Halo + Blu-Ray + Massive Price Tag = PS3

If you want Blu-Ray and Japanese RPGs, the PS3 is awesome. But, otherwise its a bit of a waste of time. Not that i'd turn down the PS3, but most good games out for PS3 are out for 360 too.

First of all stop using Halo to define the 360 as the BEST console out there yes it has a well developed Online Community and services , Now unto the next matter just because you own a Ps3 does not mean you only get BluRay and Japanese RPGS you moron.

gh2masterwellalmost
10-02-2007, 05:46 AM
First of all stop using Halo to define the 360 as the BEST console out there yes it has a well developed Online Community and services , Now unto the next matter just because you own a Ps3 does not mean you only get BluRay and Japanese RPGS you moron.

Here we go again, flaming me cos its me.

I did not say just cos you get a PS3 its only for Blu-Ray and Japanese RPGS. But thats it main advantage over the 360. In the same way that the 360 has a better online service. I never said Halo 3 was the best console game, I should just said it was the best for console online multiplayer so far.

This by no means defines 360 as the best. Only you can define console x y or z as the best. But, for online kicks its 360 for me, but if you like FF and the like and really need Blu-Ray, the PS3 is brilliant.

Stop twisting what I say and flaming me for the sake of flaming.

SmokaCola
10-02-2007, 06:14 AM
Seriously if you have a PS3 right now you're just someone that wants to say "Yeah, I have the most expensive next-gen console". I'm into games more than anything, ever since I was little I was playing games. It doesn't pay to be a fanboy at all I'll tell you that right now. You miss out on a lot of good games. Right now, PS3 has **** for games and the only thing good out of it is well... hardly anything. Of course the PS3 has a few good exclusives atm and that's good. If you're a true gamer though and you like to have a variety of games, you'll stick with the 360. In time, I say give it another year or so and the PS3 will pull ahead greatly.

PS3 will completely dominate the 360 online and off, why? Because Mircosoft made the same stupid move SEGA did, and look where it got SEGA. Of course, SEGA also realized the money isn't in the consoles, it's more in the software. Anyways, All the systems are good and have their advantages/disadvantages. I do admit, I have a 360 atm. That's only because on the 17th of November I had a fist full of money and I was thinking to myself, "This store has 2 PS3s in stock and their both the 60 Gig... Now I could save myself some money AND get a few games, or I could just blow it all away and get maybe...not even, 1 game."

I did the smart thing any true gamer would do and bought myself a 360. When I get my money back up i'll definitely get a PS3 though, give it some time. It'll make the 360 and all it's fanboys whine their asses off because they're too stupid to try something different.

IbanezBassist_v2
10-02-2007, 06:30 AM
In time, I say give it another year or so and the PS3 will pull ahead greatly.

PS3 will completely dominate the 360 online and off, why? Because Mircosoft made the same stupid move SEGA did, and look where it got SEGA. Of course, SEGA also realized the money isn't in the consoles, it's more in the software.

That's why I chose to go with the PS3. I know that eventually its going to come around. These things take time. Its a marathon, its going to take some time.

DShiz1029
10-02-2007, 07:55 AM
Im not so much a fanboy for Xbox, but I do prefer it having played a PS3. I dont hate the PS3, its certainly a good system for those who have it/want it. My only gripe with Microsoft is the Red "C" Shape of Death (yes thats my politically correct term). They rushed it too fast and ended up with a pandemic of RCSoD. Mine was one of those unfortunate ones as of recently. I wont change over to PS3 because of it, simply for the fact that the PS3 is a lot of money that I dont have. Im getting my 360 repaired, and if it RCSoD again, Im going to call Microsoft up and demand a refund or perhaps a new system (though they will probably tell me to F O A D). The RCSoD should have never happed, and us 360 users deserve a full explanation of why it happened from Microsoft themselves, not from the people who opened up their systems to have a look, because Microsoft is fully responsible for it.

tucsonovernite
10-02-2007, 08:50 AM
That's why I chose to go with the PS3. I know that eventually its going to come around. These things take time. Its a marathon, its going to take some time.

...we're already 2 years into the typical 5 year console cycle...

gh2masterwellalmost
10-02-2007, 09:00 AM
...we're already 2 years into the typical 5 year console cycle...

Exactly. I see the best-case scenario for Sony (different to other predictions) as equalling the Xbox. Unless the Wii suddenly starts spontatenously combusting, its won. End of. But the 2nd place will be a big fights. The PS3 online service just does not have what the 360 has, and the games mean nothing now, because most games are multi-format, albeit with a few exceptitions. And at the end of the day, we see too similar consoles, but ones got Blu-Ray and costs a ton but with a fantastic brand behind and the other the seemingly outsider before the battle began has built up such a community. I mean, there are more copies of Halo 3 than there are PS3s (in the US - in Japan that would be greatly different of course).

Wii will win... 360 and PS3 will dive for 2nd but the price tag, unless Sony release a blu-ray free ps3 and admit that format wars don't mean anything nowadays, mean that the 360 will edge it. This is not on quality - just sales.

jq71586
10-02-2007, 09:16 AM
Exactly. I see the best-case scenario for Sony (different to other predictions) as equalling the Xbox. Unless the Wii suddenly starts spontatenously combusting, its won. End of. But the 2nd place will be a big fights. The PS3 online service just does not have what the 360 has, and the games mean nothing now, because most games are multi-format, albeit with a few exceptitions. And at the end of the day, we see too similar consoles, but ones got Blu-Ray and costs a ton but with a fantastic brand behind and the other the seemingly outsider before the battle began has built up such a community. I mean, there are more copies of Halo 3 than there are PS3s (in the US - in Japan that would be greatly different of course).

Wii will win... 360 and PS3 will dive for 2nd but the price tag, unless Sony release a blu-ray free ps3 and admit that format wars don't mean anything nowadays, mean that the 360 will edge it. This is not on quality - just sales.

How about the rumored Sony release of a 40 GB $400 PS3. There is too much evidence floating around for this to just be considered a rumor. That would take care of your price argument. Online for the PS3 is pretty damn good. Zero lag for all the games I own, voice communication, demos are now coming out on both systems at the same time. And it's free. Xbox Live is still the better service. Just not 50 dollars better IMO. Blu-Ray is huge to me, I can understand it's not to alot of people so there is no point in arguing with that. I just love it.:D

But in the end this petty arguing means nothing. Each person buys a system that fits them. And in the end thats what matters. I don't care if I was the only person to own a PS3 I would still love it. Person X (not you, just X) can't tell me what system to buy. I was obsessed with my Dreamcast and I think we all know how that turned out.

Shenmue ftw.

DShiz1029
10-02-2007, 09:26 AM
How about the rumored Sony release of a 40 GB $400 PS3. There is too much evidence floating around for this to just be considered a rumor. That would take care of your price argument. Online for the PS3 is pretty damn good. Zero lag for all the games I own, voice communication, demos are now coming out on both systems at the same time. And it's free. Xbox Live is still the better service. Just not 50 dollars better IMO. Blu-Ray is huge to me, I can understand it's not to alot of people so there is no point in arguing with that. I just love it.:D

But in the end this petty arguing means nothing. Each person buys a system that fits them. And in the end thats what matters. I don't care if I was the only person to own a PS3 I would still love it. Person X (not you, just X) can't tell me what system to buy. I was obsessed with my Dreamcast and I think we all know how that turned out.

Shenmue ftw.

You, sir, just gave the answer to the war..."Each person buys a system that fits them."
*high five*

jq71586
10-02-2007, 09:29 AM
You, sir, just gave the answer to the war..."Each person buys a system that fits them."
*high five*

*high five*

Akaymay
10-02-2007, 10:35 AM
Let me quote Sean.




-Just say no to console wars. It is beneath all of us to track that mud in here.


That was from The Rules, the Announcement in EVERY one of the topics.

Saltines
10-02-2007, 10:37 AM
Let me quote Sean.





That was from The Rules, the Announcement in EVERY one of the topics.

I was thinking this. :\

gh2masterwellalmost
10-03-2007, 06:28 AM
Let me quote Sean.





That was from The Rules, the Announcement in EVERY one of the topics.

This is a general forum thread. Other than some direct flaming towards me (as usual) it has been a good, productive thread, which has done no harm, and if it directly broke any rules it would have been locked ages ago. We have no fanboys here, we all agree that different people have different consoles, and I'm glad, I just wanted to hear people's opinions, so stop being so pedantic.

tucsonovernite
10-03-2007, 07:02 AM
so stop being so pedantic.

Proletariat translation: Pedantic: overly concerned with minute details or formalisms, esp. in teaching

haha just playing GHMastah!:)

Hey anyone buying PGR4? ...the release kinda snuck up on me I'm considering trading Bioshock today (beat it saving the lil gals--neat ending btw) towards project gotham....

DShiz1029
10-03-2007, 07:07 AM
Proletariat translation: Pedantic: overly concerned with minute details or formalisms, esp. in teaching

haha just playing GHMastah!:)

Hey anyone buying PGR4? ...the release kinda snuck up on me I'm considering trading Bioshock today (beat it saving the lil gals--neat ending btw) towards project gotham....


Nope, I am sticking with my Forza 2. The next racing game I am picking up is going to be Midnight Club: Los Angeles

gh2masterwellalmost
10-03-2007, 08:29 AM
Proletariat translation: Pedantic: overly concerned with minute details or formalisms, esp. in teaching

haha just playing GHMastah!:)

Hey anyone buying PGR4? ...the release kinda snuck up on me I'm considering trading Bioshock today (beat it saving the lil gals--neat ending btw) towards project gotham....

I sold my Bioshock in 5 days after release. Bought my guitar with some of the money.

Proletariat definition? Seems weird, proletariat is the communist term for the working class (sorry, remember keep the thread politics free it gets us in trouble otherwise, but it intrigued me I had to ask)

tucsonovernite
10-03-2007, 09:22 AM
I sold my Bioshock in 5 days after release. Bought my guitar with some of the money.

Proletariat definition? Seems weird, proletariat is the communist term for the working class (sorry, remember keep the thread politics free it gets us in trouble otherwise, but it intrigued me I had to ask)

oh my bad i was just playing for us uneducated workin' folk...just a joke didnt really work i guess

gh2masterwellalmost
10-04-2007, 03:22 AM
oh my bad i was just playing for us uneducated workin' folk...just a joke didnt really work i guess

LOL i didn't realise it was a joke. Nice one for using the word proletarian... next use the words "burgoisie" (spell check?) and "exploit" for double points!

diazj18
10-04-2007, 04:17 AM
I bought a ps3 and I'm happy with it. I get to play games with my friends for free, the developers get to decide the price of DLC(Microsoft tells developers the min price for DLC), home wil be awesome, showing my Rock Band videos to my friends in my theater. Yeah they don't have a strong selection of games right now, but x-box360 did have a year more on them ,and they still only have a few good games. I'm going to buy my wife a Wii for her b-day, and I will play Smash Brothers, but I doubt there will be anything else, maybe Metroid and Zelda. BONG!!:eek:

MartyMcFly
10-04-2007, 04:33 AM
Can someone post a link to a site or something that lists exclusive games Xbox360 vs. Ps3? I just wanna compare. Thanks!

gh2masterwellalmost
10-04-2007, 04:39 AM
Can someone post a link to a site or something that lists exclusive games Xbox360 vs. Ps3? I just wanna compare. Thanks!

http://forums.firingsquad.com/firingsquad/board/message?board.id=pc&message.id=42057

and 360 romps it home.

MartyMcFly
10-04-2007, 04:45 AM
Thanks, I was just curious. I'd like to have a Ps3, but I'd also like a variety of games to play it on.

Maybe a few more years.

Online population is larger on 360, and I seriously predict myself to be playing Rock Band for the next 2 years on a regular basis. I don't really need anything else.

MartyMcFly
10-04-2007, 05:12 AM
Also, if GTAIV, Assassin's Creed, and DMC4 all were exclusive to PS3, then maybe I'd buy it. But I might as well just stick to 360.

IErrantVentureI
10-04-2007, 05:39 AM
Is this thread really necessary?

diazj18
10-04-2007, 05:49 AM
Is this thread really necessary?
No, but is one of the only places I have been to that people haven't gotten irrate about there console lol. It's all about the rock band really.

TheRocker
10-04-2007, 06:06 AM
Is this thread really necessary?

Are any of gh2's threads necessary thats what you should ask yourself.

IErrantVentureI
10-04-2007, 06:07 AM
Good, just checking. I'm waitin for everyone to blow up at each other. BTW, I voted 360 because, well.. it rules.

gh2masterwellalmost
10-04-2007, 06:49 AM
Are any of gh2's threads necessary thats what you should ask yourself.

Stop with the forum bullying. This thread has been flame free (except for a few personal attacks on me, but I need to get used to it no matter what I say) and enjoyable, with no console flame wars.

If you can't post decently or post anything interesting, don't post at all. This thread has been interesting for most people. Now, **** off to some other thread before spoiling this one will ya?