A little egotistical to include bonus songs?

[Dimebag1625]

I mean, aren't the bonus songs (for the most part) by bands that are affiliated with Harmonix in some ways, so isn't it a little egotistical to have 25% of the total songs on the original disc be by unknown, small bands that Harmonix staff play in? Maybe I'm just posting this thread out of sheer anger for the song "I Get By" which I tried in vain to pass about twenty times on expert vocals last night. I hate that crappy singing.

[R4di4ti0n]

closer to 20%, and some of them, such as flyleaf are pretty well know. Timmy and the LotU? Pretty sure HMXSean was the vox on that...

Thats why they are bonus songs. They are little extras put there to broaden your horizons and make little n00b girls whine on forums

[Dimebag1625]

closer to 20%, and some of them, such as flyleaf are pretty well know. Timmy and the LotU? Pretty sure HMXSean was the vox on that...

Idiot. Thats why they are bonus songs. They are little extras put there to broaden your horizons and make little n00b girls whine on forums

I said for the most part the bonus songs are by Harmonix bands. Of course I didn't mean Timmy or Flyleaf. You're a tool. And Flyleaf is popular? Funny. It's just weird that they didn't include 58 songs by well known bands and instead 45 by well known bands and 13 by relatively obscure bands.

[davidshek]

Of the 13 Bonus Songs, only 9 are HMX-affiliated bands:

"29 Fingers" The Konks
"Blood Doll" Anarchy Club
"Brainpower" Freezepop
"Can't Let Go" Death of the Cool
"Day Late, Dollar Short" The Acro-Brats
"I Get By" Honest Bob and the Factory-to-Dealer Incentives
"Outside" Tribe
"Pleasure (Pleasure)" Bang Camaro
"Seven" Vagiant

The remaining 4 are not "HMX bands":

"I'm So Sick" Flyleaf
"Nightmare" Crooked X
"Time We Had" The Mother Hips
"Timmy and the Lords of the Underworld" South Park

So 9/58 = 15.5% ;)

I don't think it's egotistical at all. They're bonus songs, you're not forced to play them during a solo tour and they don't show up in the Mystery Setlists in BWT. There are a few (2 or 3?) designated setlists in BWT that include those songs, but easily avoidable if you so choose.

I think it's pretty smart actually, and a great opportunity for those bands. Hell, if I worked for a company that put out a music-based game that had the potential to get my music into the hands of 1+ million people, you can be damn sure one of my band's songs would be on there :p

[Fred G. Sanford]

You're completely right Dimebag,the ignorant part of it,is they actually release the songs as DLC over real bands and make people pay full price for it,you want to promote your bands do it on your own time not on the time of people who paid good money to purchase a video game with music they like and know in it.

[R4di4ti0n]

You're completely right Dimebag,the ignorant part of it,is they actually release the songs as DLC over real bands and make people pay full price for it,you want to promote your bands do it on your own time not on the time of people who paid good money to purchase a video game with music they like and know in it.

I know and like band camaro. You're a turd burgler. wah-hahahaha!

[Dimebag1625]

Of the 13 Bonus Songs, only 9 are HMX-affiliated bands:

"29 Fingers" The Konks
"Blood Doll" Anarchy Club
"Brainpower" Freezepop
"Can't Let Go" Death of the Cool
"Day Late, Dollar Short" The Acro-Brats
"I Get By" Honest Bob and the Factory-to-Dealer Incentives
"Outside" Tribe
"Pleasure (Pleasure)" Bang Camaro
"Seven" Vagiant

The remaining 4 are not "HMX bands":

"I'm So Sick" Flyleaf
"Nightmare" Crooked X
"Time We Had" The Mother Hips
"Timmy and the Lords of the Underworld" South Park

So 9/58 = 15.5% ;)

I don't think it's egotistical at all. They're bonus songs, you're not forced to play them during a solo tour and they don't show up in the Mystery Setlists in BWT. There are a few (2 or 3?) designated setlists in BWT that include those songs, but easily avoidable if you so choose.

I think it's pretty smart actually, and a great opportunity for those bands. Hell, if I worked for a company that put out a music-based game, you can be damn sure one of my band's songs would be on there :p


Isn't 15% a little high for random bands in a game about music, where they could have that 15% made up of more well known bands that people have been screaming for like Guns and Roses, Muse, Sublime, etc?

[davidshek]

Isn't 15% a little high for random bands in a game about music, where they could have that 15% made up of more well known bands that people have been screaming for like Guns and Roses, Muse, Sublime, etc?

See, the problem with your statement is that you say it like they had all these other tracks laying around and chose not to use them. That's most certainly not the case. And besides, all of the "screaming" for those bands has been happening after the game's release, quite a bit late to put them on the disc.

15% isn't that high. Think of it like a tip in a restaurant. You bought the 45 main setlist songs, and they give you the 15% bonus songs as a tip ;)

[HMXJohnlok]

Call me crazy, but two of my favorite songs in the game are bonus songs. I would have to concede, of course, that I am somewhat biased.

[Fred G. Sanford]

I know and like band camaro. You're a turd burgler. wah-hahahaha!

Well im happy HMX is giving you and Bang Camaros other 3 fans what they want. Im not a turd burglar you big dummy!!! :D

[R4di4ti0n]

Isn't 15% a little high for random bands in a game about music, where they could have that 15% made up of more well known bands that people have been screaming for like Guns and Roses, Muse, Sublime, etc?

Sure, i could listen to the same old annoying GnR, but then i never would have discovered the awesomeness of Bang camaro. Or how crazy fun I get by is if...well, you can get by. and the konks? oh man that song roxorz my soxorz. I'd take those any day over ANYTHING mainstream.

Edit: and outside is a beast to play. So there is 4/9 that are pimp-tastic

[trg007]

For vocals, I don't mind most of the bonus songs but the only one I really despise is Timmy, and the fact that it counts towards career score. I did actually manage to 5* it for the first time last night but it remains a mystery to me how the top ranked vocalists managed to FC that "song".

[PlanetHill]

"Bonus" - Noun
"Something in addition to what is expected or strictly due."

It's a bonus. It's free. It's extra. How can you complain about extra songs?

Your false assumption is that these songs were picked in place of mainstream songs.

Some are quite good.

[Dimebag420]

Bang Camaro = Bubblegum

[BetterSandw1ch]

Isn't 15% a little high for random bands in a game about music, where they could have that 15% made up of more well known bands that people have been screaming for like Guns and Roses, Muse, Sublime, etc?

The point is, that isn't the case. If you think a band like Guns and Roses is as easy for Harmonix to get in their game as a band in which Harmonix employees are members, you're completely mistaken.

The bonus songs are just that - bonus material. They're songs that Harmonix was able to include without much hassle, and were thus added on as an extra for consumers. Don't think of them as part of the game in place of larger bands; think of them as part of the game instead of no extra songs whatsoever, and just the main setlist.

As for the person complaining about these bands' inclusion in DLC, the solution is simple: don't purchase the material if you don't want it. They may not be the most widely known bands, but they all have a fanbase, and in the end, I've enjoyed playing the songs as much as I have others by more established bands. They're not doing anything 'on your time' - they put out a product, and it's your decision to purchase it. You don't have to be thankful that the material is out there, but there's certainly no need to be snotty.

[rune2004]

You're completely right Dimebag,the ignorant part of it,is they actually release the songs as DLC over real bands and make people pay full price for it,you want to promote your bands do it on your own time not on the time of people who paid good money to purchase a video game with music they like and know in it.


Well im happy HMX is giving you and Bang Camaros other 3 fans what they want. Im not a turd burglar you big dummy!!! :D

I like Bang Camaro, and I didn't know about them until RB. They achieved their goal!

And the first quote, they don't have to release DLC. That's just something they're choosing to do. No where on the game disc does it say that "Buy this game and enjoy a DLC release every week!" The DLC is something bonus that we should be at least partially satisfied about because we're actually getting some.

Just keep hoping for DLC you want, and don't get pissed off when it's not. No matter what, someone's going to want it.

That's how I'm looking at it, and it's keeping me happy. :)

[WingsOfSteel]

Outside, Pleasure (Pleasure), Day Late, Dollar Short, and I Get By all kick ass.

[R4di4ti0n]

Bang Camaro = Bubblegum

yes! sweet, delicious, chewy, scrumptios sugar-free bubble gum. If they were a flavor, the flavor would be ass....KICK ASS that is.

[Wolfwere]

Oooh, look! Dramatic name-calling and other silliness to laugh at!

I love these highbrow discussions. :D

[darknessmoon]

You guys know how when you have a buddy that works at, oh, let's say, a fast-food restaurant, and they hook you up because s/he's a homie? Well, that's kinda similar to these "HMX bands" being in the game.

And, like davidshek said, if I had a band and I knew someone that made a game that could possibly give me the opportunity to expose my music to millions of people, heck yeah I would take the opportunity.

Shouldn't the "big bands" be thinking that way too...?

[Solid_Snake]

People that are complaining don't get the point that these are BONUS SONGS. They are not taking the place of any other songs. Bonus means just that, bonus. They are not replacement songs. No song was sacrificed in order for them to be included. So its either we have them or we don't, and I'd prefer the $200 that I spend to include as many songs as possible.

[Michura]

I don't like the bonus songs but I don't fault them for it.

1) It is helping their employees pursue their dreams. Should we really be faulting a company for that? Individual programmers don't get the final say when it comes to these things so someone higher up agreed to it. To me, that is a pretty cool boss to have.

2) It doesn't really hurt to have them in there as far as the game goes.

[Melchiah]

I mean, aren't the bonus songs (for the most part) by bands that are affiliated with Harmonix in some ways, so isn't it a little egotistical to have 25% of the total songs on the original disc be by unknown, small bands that Harmonix staff play in? Maybe I'm just posting this thread out of sheer anger for the song "I Get By" which I tried in vain to pass about twenty times on expert vocals last night. I hate that crappy singing.

"I Get By" has never given me...any troubles on Vocals. Actually, I think it may be one of my Top 5 Highest Vocal Scores... :confused:

[R4di4ti0n]

"I Get By" has never given me...any troubles on Vocals. Actually, I think it may be one of my Top 5 Highest Vocal Scores... :confused:

different strokes for different folks, brah.

[Melchiah]

You're completely right Dimebag,the ignorant part of it,is they actually release the songs as DLC over real bands and make people pay full price for it,you want to promote your bands do it on your own time not on the time of people who paid good money to purchase a video game with music they like and know in it.

Um...some of the DLC by the Harmonix bands has been some of the most automatic purchases for me. Also, if I remember correctly, they release the Harmonix bands' songs for $0.99, not $1.99, for the most part. That's not full price...$0.99 is a steal, especially when I was psyched to download Sprode by Freezepop...some nice little nostalgia back from the Frequency/Amplitude days.

[jeccaneko]

Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. All I know is Outside, Time We Had, and Pleasure (Pleasure) are three of my favorite disc songs, so who am I to complain?

[LinkStrifeLeonhart]

How many bands in the GH3 bonus set-list were relatively unknown? Sure, they're not Neversoft bands, but they're not the 'big mainstream' stuff everyone is wanting. Did I like a lot of those songs? You bet I did.

As for the RB bonus bands, I like a lot of them as well. Like several other people, I like Bang Camaro a lot. I also like I Get By for reasons unknown to me.

[crivit]

BONUS as in EXTRA. These songs were freebies for us. HMX did not decide that they would rather use a Bang Camaro song over GNR. If the bonus songs were not included then we'd only have 45 songs total on the disc, not 45 songs, plus 13 other, more well known songs. Personally I'd rather have 58 songs on a disc instead od 45, regardless of what those extra songs are.

[ASPSAX]

What strikes me about this whole thing is the use of the word "egotistical." You have no idea what it's like to be a musician, you need all of the exposure you can possibly get. Hell, it's like that for most jobs in existence, you need exposure if you want to be successful. It's not about being egotistical, it's about survival in the music business.

[Disa]

I only hope we get Tribe DLC in the future. Outside is definitely one of my favourite songs on the original game format. It has a beat of its own.

But do they really ask for full price? I recall the HMX band DLC being 80G.

[jeccaneko]

I also like I Get By for reasons unknown to me.

I like it because it's ridiculous and goofy. I like Ballroom Blitz for the same reason. I'll say the talky parts, such as the "Are you ready, Steve?", but insert the names of the real people I'm playing with. They give different answers every time which cracks me up. Once...

"Are you ready, (insert friend name)?"
"No."
"Alright, fellas, let's go!"
"Noooooooo, I'm not ready! What am I supposed to be playing?"
(Everyone else) "Shut up, you're already playing!"

The guy complaining was the drummer, if you couldn't tell. :p Fun times.

[LinkStrifeLeonhart]

I like it because it's ridiculous and goofy. I like Ballroom Blitz for the same reason. I'll say the talky parts, such as the "Are you ready, Steve?", but insert the names of the real people I'm playing with. They give different answers every time which cracks me up. Once...

"Are you ready, (insert friend name)?"
"No."
"Alright, fellas, let's go!"
"Noooooooo, I'm not ready! What am I supposed to be playing?"
(Everyone else) "Shut up, you're already playing!"

The guy complaining was the drummer, if you couldn't tell. :p Fun times.

True, I guess I just like songs that are campy as well as SUPER SERIOUS. Though I will admit to not liking I Get By at first. Then I played it several times and it got stuck in my head and 'clicked' with me. And Ballroom Blitz is a song that I always sing, no matter who called it. I will muscle in a little if I have to.

Though I should probably take up what you do and name those playing the other instruments, probably in the same order as the song.

[JJStyles]

I said for the most part the bonus songs are by Harmonix bands. Of course I didn't mean Timmy or Flyleaf. You're a tool. And Flyleaf is popular? Funny. It's just weird that they didn't include 58 songs by well known bands and instead 45 by well known bands and 13 by relatively obscure bands.

I'd say that Flyleaf is popular. They have a song out right now that's getting good airplay on Top 40 stations.

[chico76]

You guys know how when you have a buddy that works at, oh, let's say, a fast-food restaurant, and they hook you up because s/he's a homie? Well, that's kinda similar to these "HMX bands" being in the game.

And, like davidshek said, if I had a band and I knew someone that made a game that could possibly give me the opportunity to expose my music to millions of people, heck yeah I would take the opportunity.

Shouldn't the "big bands" be thinking that way too...?


The problem with this analogy is that when your buddies hook you up with some freebies, it only affects you & them (and presumably the company being stolen from, which, incidentally, writes off 1% of receipts to loss & theft anyway). It doesn't affect MILLIONS of consumers that are going to be footing the bill.

HMX got away with murder in this case. We all paid our $60 for the game disc or $170 for the bundle. While some of the HMX bands might, MIGHT have "given" their song to the game, it's likely that they are going to receive at least some compensation (royalties, usage, etc). Not to mention, the HMX employees themselves could have seen decent bonuses after the successful launch of the game. All of this means that we did, in fact, pay for the bonus songs.

Would they have sold as many copies with only 45 songs on the disc? More than likely. But then none of them would have personally benefitted from it in the same way.

That's where I think there's a major conflict of interest. It's one thing to want to promote smaller bands in the game. If that's part of the strategy, fine, I don't have to like it but they are certainly welcome to do that. But when someone is benefitting PERSONALLY from the actions of the COMPANY, that is the very definition of conflict of interest.

[Ultrace]

I'm not going to kid you, there are some of the bonus songs in the game I'm not all that crazy about. 29 Fingers, Nightmare, Blood Doll and I'm So Sick are consistently in the bottom percentile of our played and enjoyed songs. On the other hand, Outside, Pleasure Pleasure, Time We Had, and I Get By are awesome songs, and there are others (i.e. Seven) that are certainly good.

I apologize if this has been brought up previously in the thread, but those who think this is some travesty carried out by Harmonix need to check past history. Both Guitar Hero and Guitar Hero II had bonus songs just like this. The original GH had 30 main tracks and 17 bonus tracks--that's 36%. GH II, if I recall, had 21 bonus tracks and 40 main tracks, that's 35%. I don't think that 22% (13 bonus tracks out of 58 total) is a bad number in light of that, especially since none of the tracks are required in order to complete either the solo or BWT modes.

[Mushroom]

I had a Freezepop album before Rock Band. I can't wait to play Brainpower.

[maryryanbogard]

I used not have a problem with "I'm So Sick", but lately I've become so sick of it because my brother and his friends are Flyleaf fans and unfortunately got my sister hooked on them (or at least the song). See also "Dead On Arrival" (though my sister got hooked on that song on her own, my brother isn't responsible). Meanwhile, "Pleasure (Pleasure)", "Brainpower", and "29 Fingers" have found their way onto my iPod.


I like Ballroom Blitz for the same reason. I'll say the talky parts, such as the "Are you ready, Steve?", but insert the names of the real people I'm playing with.

I'm gonna do that if we end up playing that song at my party this weekend. :) In the meantime, I have used the names of the characters on-screen if I know them (either I made them or they're an online bandmate's character whose named I glimpsed on the selection screen).

[Magnet]

You could either have 45 licensed songs on the game for a total of 45 songs. Or you could have 45 licensed songs on the game and 13 bonus (meaning licensing costs are either really cheap or not a factor) songs for a total of 58 songs. They can only have a certain number of licensed songs on the game before the licensing fees start digging into their profits.

Given the choice, I'm going to go with the total of 58 songs, thanks. Many of the bonus songs are quite good. Only a couple of them I don't really care for.

[Ultrace]

That's where I think there's a major conflict of interest. It's one thing to want to promote smaller bands in the game. If that's part of the strategy, fine, I don't have to like it but they are certainly welcome to do that. But when someone is benefitting PERSONALLY from the actions of the COMPANY, that is the very definition of conflict of interest.
Harmonix is welcome to put whatever songs they want to on the game. If they wanted to make all 58 songs Harmonix bands, they could. It just wouldn't have sold much. The consumer decides where the value is. This has little difference between all of those recipes you see on the back of a box of rice or such that recommend specific ingredients from the same company to make a dish. In that case, you're partially paying for an advertisement about the company's other products. There's nothing unusual in the way HMX packaged this and, as I indicated above, it has precedent in their previous Guitar Hero (and even earlier) games.

[Solid_Snake]

BONUS as in EXTRA. These songs were freebies for us. HMX did not decide that they would rather use a Bang Camaro song over GNR. If the bonus songs were not included then we'd only have 45 songs total on the disc, not 45 songs, plus 13 other, more well known songs. Personally I'd rather have 58 songs on a disc instead od 45, regardless of what those extra songs are.
This is exactly how I see it as well. People aren't understanding that they are bonus songs and not replacing any other songs.

[Icarus80]

I have no problem with them being in the game at all,as long as they're good,sadly enough most of the HMX bands are not.

Who sat down and listened to the songs before they got put in the game and thought "yeah,this song is awesome,it rocks,lots of people would love this" because he should be fired on the spot for being so idiotic.

[Solid_Snake]

I have no problem with them being in the game at all,as long as they're good,sadly enough most of the HMX bands are not.

Who sat down and listened to the songs before they got put in the game and thought "yeah,this song is awesome,it rocks,lots of people would love this" because he should be fired on the spot for being so idiotic.
Once again, its a matter of opinion. There are some people that like the bonus songs. There is no reason to complain. If I don't like a song I don't play it.

[rab39]

I Get By sounds like Pavement, which is a definite plus for me. I think most longtime Harmonix fans expect, demand, crave Bang Camaro and Freezepop. Vagiant's Seven is fun (especially if you sing it uncensored) and I hope FTK gets released (along with Count Zero's Radium Eyes from GH2).

And Outside is simply one of the best songs in the entire game.

[GreenGrassAndy]

I have no problem with them being in the game at all,as long as they're good,sadly enough most of the HMX bands are not.

Who sat down and listened to the songs before they got put in the game and thought "yeah,this song is awesome,it rocks,lots of people would love this" because he should be fired on the spot for being so idiotic.

Certainly whomever greenlighted TIMMAH should be. I like "I get By," despite lots of people supposedly not liking it. I think it is quirky and unique. I also like the Freezepop songs. Bang Camaro? It is alright...

The worst bonus songs: TIMMAH, Nightmare, Blood Doll, Can't Let Go, and 29 Fingers. The rest are playable and sometimes enjoyable. These five are junk.

[skullpit]

Timmy is my favorite of the bonus songs!

[jbrocker56]

who cares if it bands with Harmonix members in it this game is way better than gt3 !!

[HeadHunter67]

Aren't the bonus songs (for the most part) by bands that are affiliated with Harmonix in some ways, so isn't it a little egotistical?
Hang on a minute...

Is this thread complaining because Harmonix put their own bands in their own GAME? :confused:

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over?

[soratchet5g]

i didn´t know the Timmy and the lords of the underworld was from south park i knew the guy who only says *TIMMY* that pretty kool.

[raging poodle]

Not egotistical at all, just seizing an opportunity to get exposure, I have no problem with it at all. Every company has certain perks, it just so happens that one of the perks for HMX employees includes getting your music into the hands of millions. Good perk.

[Solid_Snake]

i didn´t know the Timmy and the lords of the underworld was from south park i knew the guy who only says *TIMMY* that pretty kool.
Yea, it was in a south park episode. I don't like the song that much, but don't mind playing it once in a while.

[Fred G. Sanford]

^^ and you're a reliable source why?? dude stop being ignorant and a big mouth,i've seen you talkin smack in damn near every thread.It gets old and nobodys listening or giving a **** about your ignorant opinions.

[libregkd]

^^ and you're a reliable source why?? dude stop being ignorant and a big mouth,i've seen you talkin smack in damn near every thread.It gets old and nobodys listening or giving a **** about your ignorant opinions.The pot calling the kettle black eh?

[DeadManDrumming]

I don't like "I Get Bye" either, but thats why their *bonus* songs. If it was say a big name band why not just throw it in the official setlist?

[kiggidykev]

i certainly wouldn't want to have some of the folks from this thread over to my place. you might see the picture i painted hanging on my wall, and call me egotistical for having it there.

[CPT_Destroyer]

You're complaining about extras you got for free? I would understand if they, for some reason, included those as a replacement to more well-known and (subject to opinion) better bands, but they didn't. You bet their ass if they could get Guns N' Roses or some other high profile band to jump the boat and join in on the Rock Band setlist, they would.

Those bonus songs are just that. Bonus. Just a little more songs just for fun. Just because they're songs that you don't like doesn't mean that they shouldn't be in. That's like if your boss came into work and gave everybody ice cream for free, and you complained to him because it wasn't chocolate ice cream. Don't complain about what's optional and free. I absolutely hate that 29 Fingers song, and I would like to personally bludgeon every member of the Konks to death, but I don't complain about how the song could've taken the place of a song or band I'd more prefer.

That being said, even though I like "I Get By", it's a ***** to sing.

[rifteroftime]

I don't really get this topic. It's not like GH3 didn't have bonus songs from unknown(ish) bands in their game. The majority of them were not that great either.

[CPT_Destroyer]

I don't really get this topic. It's not like GH3 didn't have bonus songs from unknown(ish) bands in their game. The majority of them were not that great either.

Exactly. There's been bonus songs since Guitar Hero 1, and some pretty bad ones to boot. This just doesn't make any sense to me.

[Wink44]

I like most bonus songs except for "29 Fingers" which i cannot stand. They're the Konks and they don't care. Coincidentally, neither does anyone else.

[CPT_Destroyer]

I like most bonus songs except for "29 Fingers" which i cannot stand. They're the Konks and they don't care. Coincidentally, neither does anyone else.

Give them a break, they've got cheap guitars and only two lousy druuuuuuuums. :p

[Cpt. Overkill]

Im surprised that Flyleaf was a bonus song. They are pretty popular.

[T-Hybrid]

You're completely right Dimebag,the ignorant part of it,is they actually release the songs as DLC over real bands

Last I checked, the only "fake" band released as DLC was GLaDOS. And she's really more of a solo artist. Timmy would be the only "fake" band on-disc. I'm fairly sure all the rest are based in good ol' reality.


and make people pay full price for it,

The HMX Pack was marked down to the $0.99/80 MSP price point.


you want to promote your bands

The Mother Hips are not an HMX band. And as somebody mentioned before, neither are Flyleaf, Timmy, and Crooked X.


do it on your own time not on the time of people who paid good money to purchase a video game with music they like and know in it.

Did you look up the setlist prior to buying the game? It was readily available. If you did, then you were well aware of what you were purchasing. If you didn't, you brought it on yourself.

As far as DLC goes...the HMX pack and The Mother Hips are the only examples of DLC from "Bonus" bands. Overall, that's 5 of 103 (or more) DLC tracks currently available for purchase. That's 4% for those of you who like statistics.

I don't think it's much of a problem.

[noobert]

i dont think it is egotistical. they wanna get the names of their bands out and what better way to do it. it is their game after all they can do what they want. some are really good songs....some suck. cough *brainpower* cough

[Hindesite]

I don't think it's egotistical. Those are bonus songs. Those songs being there didn't detract from what was in the main set list, they're just bonus songs they added for more content. If the bonus songs weren't there I don't think that'd necessaraly mean there'd be a bigger main set list with more big bands, I'm pretty sure HMX already knew what they had in mind for it before they added the bonus tracks.

Plus, the songs are pretty good! :D Not as good as GnR but they're fun and original, and I like hearing new stuff.

[ArmachiA]

I REALLY like Tribe's "Outside" like a lot, so if they have something to do with HMX I'd love to see more of them in the future

(Also, how can you not like Freezepop? They're so fun!)


(I also hate The Konks)


(Good day.)

[HeavyMetalKing]

I like Bang Camaro, at least what I've heard so far...just thought I'd say that.

[Tribaldemon]

So, for the sake of argument, you would prefer songs like Pleasure(Pleasure) replaced with more Dead on Arrival?

Just because you haven't heard of a band doesn't mean they can't be good. The GH franchise introduced me to bands like Bang Camaro, Freezepop, Honest Bob and the Factory to Dealer Incentives, Vagiant, Artillery, The Acro-brats, Count Zero, The Slip, Shaimus, Din, The Bags and Anarchy Club through bonus tracks. All bands I would not have known about otherwise and all bands I really enjoy listening to.