Endlist Setlist Expert Guitar/Vocals

[TuesdaysGone]

Alright, so I'm a one-man band. I play guitar and vocals. I can do easier songs on duel expert guitar/vocals. But I can only do harder songs on expert guitar, hard vocals. My question is this: If I play the endlist setlist on expert BASS and expert vocals, will I get the platinum guitar logo as well? Any help would be appreciated.

[TuesdaysGone]

Come on, SOMEBODY has to have beaten the endless setlist.

[Seldomseen]

Playing either Expert Bass or Guitar with Expert Vocals will unlock the Platinum Artist achievement for both the Lead Guitar and Bass Guitar icons for that one character (and, of course, the Platinum Vocalist icon for the vocalist avatar).

But it's more fun if you go platinum as a singing lead guitarist. I did just two weeks ago. It was good times. Toughest songs for me, though, were "Train Kept A Rollin'" and "Pleasure (Pleasure)", but I still managed to get more than a handful of gold stars and one "band" FC.

My pictures page (http://www.rockband.com/rockers_pictures/Seldomseen) has all the highlights and lowlights.

[DarkEternal37]

I was soon going to my one man band at this. I'd be doing Guitar/Vocals but if I had to take my best guess, I would say that...

Actually really I don't know it's a great question.

[Kaptankrunch92]

don't quote me on this...but im pretty sure a guitarist gets the plat badge for either instrument...again iunno haven't done endless YET

[TuesdaysGone]

Playing either Expert Bass or Guitar with Expert Vocals will unlock the Platinum Artist achievement for both the Lead Guitar and Bass Guitar icons for that one character (and, of course, the Vocalist icon for the vocalist avatar).

But it's more fun if you do BWT as a singing Lead Guitarist. I did. It was good times.

Thanks a million. I'd love to do guitar and sing, but I want that platinum icon:cool:.

[TheCheckeredDemon]

The hardest song will be "I Get By", no matter what, that song will mess you up, it's near the end and your fingers and voice will be worn down.

[TuesdaysGone]

The hardest song will be "I Get By", no matter what, that song will mess you up, it's near the end and your fingers and voice will be worn down.

THAT song and Blood Doll are the two reasons I don't think I could pull it off on expert guitar / vocals.

[Seldomseen]

TCD: Perhaps, but I was speaking from my own point of view. Of course, there will be those who find other songs harder than the songs that I found to be hard. "I Get By", for me, is only challenging during verse 1 and 2, and then again, only for the guitar part, since the strumming rhythm is hard to follow when I'm singing the song itself (which isn't hard once you get to know it). The problem is that while the lyrical rhythm neatly follows the beat, the guitar rhythm isn't as perfectly laid out, and you really have to pay attention to when you should cut off your strumming. The only part I mess up on vocals in that song is the final percussion section. Even if "I Get By" was the last song on the ESL, for me, it still wouldn't be the hardest song overall.

It all depends on instrument/part affinity, though. In terms of skill, I'm a vocalist first and a guitarist second, so songs like "I Get By", a song where most agree that the harder of the two games (guitar and vocal) to master is the vocal game, isn't as hard for me, since I can sing it with relative ease; whereas for songs like "Run to the Hills", one can probably sing it fairly easily, but the guitar solo can really kill lesser-skilled guitarists (like me) sometimes, and so they have to save up star power for when the solo starts hurting their Crowd Meter.

[TuesdaysGone]

TCD: Perhaps, but I was speaking from my own point of view. Of course, there will be those who find other songs harder than the songs that I found to be hard. "I Get By", for me, is only challenging during verse 1 and 2, and then again, only for the guitar part, since the strumming rhythm is hard to follow when I'm singing the song itself (which isn't hard once you get to know it). The problem is that while the lyrical rhythm neatly follows the beat, the guitar rhythm isn't as perfectly laid out, and you really have to pay attention to when you should cut off your strumming. The only part I mess up on vocals in that song is the final percussion section. Even if "I Get By" was the last song on the ESL, for me, it still wouldn't be the hardest song overall.

What was hard for you?

[TuesdaysGone]

Playing either Expert Bass or Guitar with Expert Vocals will unlock the Platinum Artist achievement for both the Lead Guitar and Bass Guitar icons for that one character (and, of course, the Platinum Vocalist icon for the vocalist avatar).

But it's more fun if you go platinum as a singing lead guitarist. I did just two weeks ago. It was good times. Toughest songs for me, though, were "Train Kept A Rollin'" and "Pleasure (Pleasure)", but I still managed to get more than a handful of gold stars and one "band" FC.

My pictures page (http://www.rockband.com/rockers_pictures/Seldomseen) has all the highlights and lowlights.

Both of those songs I could do easily, I've 5 stars both of those vocally. I have them down.

[Seldomseen]

The pictures page says it all. Vocally, I can do all the songs. I legitimately failed "Pleasure (Pleasure)", "Train Kept A Rollin'", and "Run to the Hills" because I didn't save up enough Star Power to power my way through the guitar solos. I should not have failed "Green Grass and High Tides" as I can pretty much do the second guitar solo, even without Star Power; but I just lost the rhythm of the zigzags at the 86% mark or so, and thus I failed that song too.

I got four stars on "Can't Let Go" because I was suffering from the only shaky mic of my entire Endless Setlist. I got four stars for "Timmy" because I never did bother to practice the guitar part beforehand. I got my two other four stars ("TKAR" and "RttH") because I suck at guitar (relatively speaking--It's one thing to play guitar; it's another thing to do it whilst actually singing, as opposed to just humming a song).

I had to play band savior for my guitar once during "Brainpower"'s ascending triplets section. That stuff's just crazy for me.

[TuesdaysGone]

The pictures page says it all. I legitimately failed "Pleasure (Pleasure)", "Train Kept A Rollin'", and "Run to the Hills" because I didn't save up enough Star Power to power my way through the guitar solos. I should not have failed "Green Grass and High Tides" as I can pretty much do the second guitar solo, even without Star Power; but I just lost the rhythm of the zigzags at the 86% mark or so, and thus I failed that song too.

I got four stars on "Can't Let Go" because I was suffering from the only shaky mic of my entire Endless Setlist. I got four stars for "Timmy" because I never did bother to practice the guitar part beforehand. I got my two other four stars ("TKAR" and "RttH") because I suck at guitar (relatively speaking--It's one thing to play guitar; it's another thing to do it whilst actually singing, as opposed to just humming a song).

I had to save my guitar once during "Brainpower"'s ascending triplets section. That stuff's just crazy for me.

So you can hit the LAST PO section in GGHT? The OBY OBY OBY OBY insanely fast? I have to use OD in the section before that, and then I fail right there every time. Can I get some tips? Do you tap it or just play it normal?

[Seldomseen]

I use the solo fret buttons almost exclusively for that part (tapping with no first strum or recoverstrum). (Oddly enough, for the other two parts in the song where there are really fast PO triplets, I elect to play them normally on the regular fret buttons.) I've done it perfectly once, one or two triplets shy of perfect thrice, and the other times I've completed that section have been a mixed bag of awesome shredding and lost multipliers.

[TuesdaysGone]

I use the solo fret buttons almost exclusively for that part (tapping with no first strum or recoverstrum). (Oddly enough, for the other two parts in the song where there are really fast PO triplets, I elect to play them normally on the regular fret buttons.) I've done it perfectly once, one or two triplets shy of perfect thrice, and the other times I've completed that section have been a mixed bag of awesome shredding and lost multipliers.

Oh, my gosh. I think you just gave me the secret to beating it. THANK YOU SO MUCH! Damn! Why's it have to be midnight? I can't play it right now.

[Seldomseen]

I used to use the ring, middle, and index fingers of my left hand to pull-off the orange, blue, and yellow fret buttons, respectively. But someone gave me a tip that I should instead use the index finger of my right hand, and middle and index fingers of my left hand to hit the same fret buttons, respectively. Odds are the ring finger of either of your hands is the weakest, and thus slowest-moving, finger. By switching it up with your right index finger, you'll be able to not only move more dexteriously, but the greater articulation of your right index finger will allow you to more accurately "find" the beat of the orange notes of the descending triplets as you play (and in case you lose your combo on your way to the very end of the song): Simply keep your left index finger on the yellow note, and hit and release the appropriate solo fret buttons with your left middle and right index fingers. You'll find that the triplets are so fast, that you'll practically be bringing down both those fingers on the fret buttons at almost the exact same time; but always remember to keep your right index finger just that little bit ahead of your left middle finger for the sake of accurately hitting all three notes of every triplet. As always, it's best to put that Practice Mode to use by going to this particular part of the song, and playing it at full or near-to-full speed, and trying out different methods of playing it. You'll eventually find which method works most consistently for you.

[TuesdaysGone]

I used to use the ring, middle, and index fingers of my left hand to PO orange, blue, and yellow, respectively. But someone gave me a tip that I should instead use the index finger of my right hand, and middle and index fingers of my left hand to hit the same fret buttons, respectively. Odds are the ring finger of either of your hands is the weakest, and thus slowest-moving, finger. By switching it up with your right index finger, you'll be able to not only move more dexteriously, but the greater articulation of your right index finger will allow you to more accurately "find" the beat of the orange notes of the descending triplets as you play (and in case you lose your combo on your way to the very end of the song): Simply keep your left index finger on the yellow note, and hit and release the appropriate solo fret buttons with your left middle and right index fingers. You'll find that the triplets are so fast, that you'll practically be bringing down both those fingers on the fret buttons at almost the exact same time; but always remember to keep your right index finger just that little bit ahead of your left middle finger for the sake of accurately hitting all three notes of every triplet.

I got that. I've also gotta say, you're the most helpful person I've met on the RB boards.

[Seldomseen]

Nope. Just the only one that's online.;) I dunno, the one-man band deal, especially concerning the Expert ESL, was a somewhat big deal for me, is all. I feel I should help out where I know my experience can help out.