Harmonix comments on DLC and indiv. instruments

[AdamBomb629]

http://www.thebbps.com/blog/2007/10/11/rock-band-the-bundles-dlc-pricing-the-guitar-hero-stigma-disconnected-gaming-and-more/

New story wih some info about DLC and no loose instruments until next year...

It seems the comments are code for "DLC will be as pricey if not more than GH II stuff, but they'll be on sale sometimes!" :(

[IErrantVentureI]

No good..

That's not good at all.

But I loved the interview. I'm not too worried, I'll just get one or two songs separately if I don't like the whole album.

[Keebler]

Seems like that's a lot of bad news... :(

[foolosophy]

Wow I will be SEVERELY upset if Canadians get the shaft not because of the price but because of the delayed release.

[Ninegauger]

I don't mind paying a few bucks for a song if I don't have to pay for songs I don't want. It was the bundling that sucked... and the fact that the price didn't add up if the whole GH catalogue was to be released...

[Tendoza]

Wow I will be SEVERELY upset if Canadians get the shaft not because of the price but because of the delayed release.
Me too, I hope a little thing like french instructions spoil it for me.
I really don't want to hound my parents about driving me over the border for a midnight or early morning release.

I would be REALLY upset if it does happen, and only over some french instructions.

[MysteryMan]

Ugh. If they announce DLC pricing beforehand, and it's more than GHII's, I'll cancel my pre-order. I'm completely serious. We're getting, what, 60ish songs total on the disc, and the disc will be $60 by itself? It shocked me that GHII's DLC cost more per song than retail, and I'd be pissed if Rock Band worked the same way.

[Maherj]

I'm not too worried about it. Guitar Hero 2 for the 360 was a pretty decent sized package and I received that no problem on release day.

Don't forget about this great news -
Harmonix has also scheduled new content to be released every week until the end of 2007 to keep the game fresh throughout the holiday season

That's MASSIVE!

[Magnet]

Didn't care for that article much. Had a grammar error, release date error (PS2 version is 12/10, not 12/17), and out of date information (like the retail disc having "more than 40 but less than 50 tracks" when we've known the number of licensed tracks was 45 for a while now).

I'm not sure why they were asking which Metallica album would be made for download. I'm even more confused that the response was "but we haven’t said which album we’re releasing." I thought it was known for a while that songs would be chosen from the entire span of Metallica's career. Now it's just going to be one particular album? Color me confused.

[Magnet]

Ugh. If they announce DLC pricing beforehand, and it's more than GHII's, I'll cancel my pre-order. I'm completely serious. We're getting, what, 60ish songs total on the disc, and the disc will be $60 by itself? It shocked me that GHII's DLC cost more per song than retail, and I'd be pissed if Rock Band worked the same way.

There are more factors that go into producing DLC content than you realize. Also, licensing for disc and licensing for DLC are entirely different animals.

[AVC808]

nice find on the article. i dont necessarily like what's being confirmed, but im glad things are being confirmed, ending lots of speculation.

[Xzyliac]

The outsourced developed PS2 version of Rock Band BLASPHEMY!


?$100 is asking quite a lot for just a guitar and a game, we think asking $70 more for the drums and microphone that change the experience is an amazing value.? And Neversoft takes a pretty brutal ***** slap. Ouch.


Harmonix is committed to providing gamers with a wide selection of new content and promises that one week from launch The Who?s famous album ?Who?s Next? will be made available for download. Harmonix has also scheduled new content to be released every week until the end of 2007 to keep the game fresh throughout the holiday season. Interesting. I (A) didn't know Who's Next would be out the following week and (B) am pretty intrigued that it will be every week until the end of '07. Wonder how radical the flow will change in '08.


http://www.thebbps.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/hm1.jpg
Never seen that pic either. The chick playing bass just looks to be groovin' along. Awesome.

[masterx1918]

I figured the wouldn't be selling individual instruments. It ends up being cheeper for me anyways. It turns out i'll be buying the bundle for $170 and selling the guitar to my buddy for $40, so i'll make out fine anyways

[Jimmik]

Aw man.......I don't want the DLC to be expensive :( I just let out a huge sigh. >.>

[AdamBomb629]

Aw man.......I don't want the DLC to be expensive :( I just let out a huge sigh. >.>

That's the same thing I said when I first read it.

[MysteryMan]

There are more factors that go into producing DLC content than you realize. Also, licensing for disc and licensing for DLC are entirely different animals.

Oh, I'm well aware of all the costs that go into producing DLC. Here's the thing - I don't really care. Sounds ignorant, but it's true. All I want is a price that I feel is reasonable. If DLC can't be offered cheaper than Guitar Hero II's, then I truly believe the whole DLC system simply doesn't work. Over $2.00 a song that you can only use in one game is outrageous, and if they HAVE to offer at that price to make a reasonable profit, then something is wrong with the system.

The one thing I didn't know, however, is that licensing for disc and DLC are different. What do you mean by this? Do the labels take a different cut depending on whether a song appears on disc or DLC? I've never heard of this.

[AdamBomb629]

While there is a thread about DLC, to follow up on MysteryMan's post (which I very much agree with), I think DLC should be much cheaper than licensing for a disc considering that DLC is virtually pirate-proof and it has no physical media.

[Eman311]

what price point were you guys expecting? its gonna be like 1-2 bucks a song. sounds legit to me.

also, i have a feeling this game will be very hard to come by. Here's hoping amazon can fufill my preorder.

[Xzyliac]

what price point were you guys expecting? its gonna be like 1-2 bucks a song. sounds legit to me.

also, i have a feeling this game will be very hard to come by. Here's hoping amazon can fufill my preorder.

I wholly expect $3.50 to $5.00 a pop.

Remember Huangs explanation of why DLC is so high priced? There's paying to use the tracks, plus royalties, whatever cut Microsoft (if it's through the Marketplace not PSN) expects for usage of the Marketplace, and by then you HAVE to increase the price just to get a meager 10% or so for the publisher.

[AdamBomb629]

I wholly expect $3.50 to $5.00 a pop.

Remember Huangs explanation of why DLC is so high priced? There's paying to use the tracks, plus royalties, whatever cut Microsoft (if it's through the Marketplace not PSN) expects for usage of the Marketplace, and by then you HAVE to increase the price just to get a meager 10% or so for the publisher.

HOLY COW. $3.50 - $5.00????? I WON'T BUY ANY! I think that's a bit steep, IMO.

[Eman311]

maybe 5 bucks for a small pack. EA and HMX can make up for that small percentage they may actually get by simply putting out a lot of it. If i could get another 50 songs for say 50-60 bucks I would totally do it.

[mobhit101]

I would be completely happy if it was 2 bucks per song. It sucks for Guitar Hero cause there's only 2 different instruments per track. Rock Band has 4 so that would be a bargain. Any higher then that... i'd only buy the songs that I like :-\

[ZkDotNet]

I'll post my thoughts:

1) I'm pretty sure EA will have nothing to do with the DLC. They're just the distributors for the game.
2) Out of a desire for nice sounding numbers, either the PS3 or 360 will have cheaper DLC (and lead to much gloating and flaming.)
3) Current DLC costs 166 ($2.08) points per song. I expect we'll see probably 200/250 points per song for RB. ($2.50/$3.00 for PS3)

[Bakkster]

I don't mind paying a few bucks for a song if I don't have to pay for songs I don't want. It was the bundling that sucked... and the fact that the price didn't add up if the whole GH catalogue was to be released...

Ditto. I'll pay $2 for a single song with 4 tracks. As long as I don't have to buy it bundled.

[undertow]

I wonder why in the interview they asked which Metallica album they will release.

It seems as though Harmonix are releasing the Full Albums from the single song currently in-game.

This is true for the Who Album that has "Won't Get Fooled Again", this is also true for the Nirvana Album, Nevermind that has "In Bloom".

If this holds true for Metallica, the album would be their 1991 self-titled Metallica album, with the following songs:

01 - "Enter Sandman" (Kirk Hammett, Hetfield, Ulrich) ? 5:31
02 - "Sad But True" ? 5:24
03 - "Holier Than Thou" ? 3:47
04 - "The Unforgiven" (Hammett, Hetfield, Ulrich) ? 6:27
05 - "Wherever I May Roam" ? 6:44
06 - "Don't Tread on Me" ? 4:00
07 - "Through the Never" (Hammett, Hetfield, Ulrich) ? 4:04
08 - "Nothing Else Matters" ? 6:28
09 - "Of Wolf and Man" (Hammett, Hetfield, Ulrich) ? 4:16
10 - "The God That Failed" ? 5:08
11 - "My Friend of Misery" (Hetfield, Jason Newsted, Ulrich) ? 6:49
12 - "The Struggle Within" ? 3:53

Internet Warning... This is pure speculation and just making an obvious? observation. Forgive me if this has already been brought up before.

[PurpleHaze]

Oh, I'm well aware of all the costs that go into producing DLC. Here's the thing - I don't really care. Sounds ignorant, but it's true. All I want is a price that I feel is reasonable. If DLC can't be offered cheaper than Guitar Hero II's, then I truly believe the whole DLC system simply doesn't work. Over $2.00 a song that you can only use in one game is outrageous, and if they HAVE to offer at that price to make a reasonable profit, then something is wrong with the system.

Completely agree.

If the DLC pricing does end up being the same as, or even more, than GH2, then personally I will be voting with my wallet again. However, I won't be blaming Harmonix, I'll be blaming the music labels - who don't seem to understand that setting the same level of licensing costs for the real music and for the in-game music is absurd, as the in-game usage is far more restricted. So, if the music labels won't listen to reason (yeah right, who am I kidding) ... well, then **** 'em.

[parastroke7]

I'm kinda counting on DLC being released for each band featured in RB.

Also, you're all right. 3 to 5 bucks a song is OUTRAGEOUS. Lucky for me I have no desire to download extra tracks for most of these bands. The only bands I'll download DLC for (if they have them) are STP, Smashing Pumpkins, maybe Coheed, and maybe Deep Purple.

Then again, I'm not sure if it's going to work out that way?

[Brock_Landers]

It blows my mind that people are still using the "but if you divide the cost of the game by the number of tracks, DLC should be $xx.xx a song" argument.

There's a thing called buying in bulk. And when you buy the game, you're buying a bulk pack of 60 or so songs. That's 60 or so songs that are GARAUNTEED sold. As opposed to DLC which is one song that may or may not be sold.

The number crunchers have to take all this into account, before spitting out a number that provides a measure of safety to HMX for dev costs (and yes, a little bit of profit), should a song sell very poorly.

/rant

[drno830]

This worries me greatly. Because of the fact that the PS3 doesn't have a controller already, should I believe that the GH ps2 controllers are going to work on Rock Band for the PS3, or that the Les Paul's are going to work on Rock Band? If not, the PS3 players can really only have a three person live band, unless you know someone else who is buying the game. This seems totally unfair, and mostly a stupid decision on HMX's part. Of course, there was probably nothing that could be done about it, but I am kind of worried now.

[toefer]

I wholly expect $3.50 to $5.00 a pop.


If that happens, I will cry. And then cry some more.

On the one hand, HMX surprised us all by releasing a lower bundle price than we were all expecting it to be. So, on the same note, maybe the DLC will be lower than we are all imagining.

On the other hand, maybe they dropped the price to the bundle, to get more bundles sold, to get more potential people hooked on the game, leading to more people wanting DLC, which results in more people buying the ridiculously priced songs (if they are $3-5), so they get all the money back from dropping the bundle, and then some.

If DLC is more than $2, there are very few songs I would buy, and I think that goes for a lot of other people as well. And I also think HMX knows this.

Also, as per the comment ranting about the "heres the disc, divide it by the # of tracks, and this is the price per track:", saying that that's not a fair way to do it. Well, I think it's more fair than you make it out to be. The cost of the disc itself not only includes the licensing fees, but all the other development fees that went into making the game in the first place, plus the advertising (someone has to pay for that Rock Band Tour, right?) and whatever else. Somehow, if on top of all those other costs, they still manage to give us 45 songs for $60, then surely DLC under $2 isn't unreasonable, is it?

The trick is to just ask people what they want for the DLC, like HMX has been doing, so that, for now, they can just add the most popular stuff, ensuring the greatest number of downloads, which will presumably keep the price lower.

But, if anything, heres to hoping some of those 9 TBA tracks are great. That way I can always just have the songs on the disc and be happy.

[Riboflavin]

so HMX is expecting me to use a 3rd party guitar for the bass? interesting.

[espher]

The lack of standalone instruments really, really sucks.

DLC being pricy is a nitpicky issue, but if standalone instruments aren't an option they damn well better be compatible with GH3 both ways.

I'm not exactly compelled to pick up Guitar Hero 2 for the 360 or a mediocre third-party controller when I've got all three for the PS2. :/

To be honest, having to wait until next year to get a second guitar (or being forced to use a third-party guitar that won't even have near the same dimensions) is just ridiculous.

[Rock_Starman]

They know damn well it needs french packaging and should be working on it already so there's no excuse at all for a delay here in Canada.

See that sticky topic about how much DLC should cost? How many said they'd pay $2 a song? I'd hope none. I said I'd go up to $1.50 song pending. If they try to sell for maxium profit they probably won't sell much,sell for a minimal profit and sales would increase probably to the point of more than what they could make selling it for a maxium profit.

[Cr1ckt]

I don't understand why people are excited about the "announcement" that we'll get DLC every week until the end of 2007. We were told from the start that DLC would be released every week. I'm slightly disturbed that he implied that the situation would change after December. This gives us five weeks of content, after which, according to the interview, they could conceivably stop producing DLC and go on to their next project.

I doubt this will happen, as they have formed an advisory board to select songs. I just see this bit of info as non-news.

On the price of DLC, I've stated before that the discrepency between DLC pricing and on-disc pricing is just plain ridiculous. If the costs are that much higher for publishing online, then Harmonix should release expansion discs with the songs on them. They'll make a lot more money.

Why?

Guitar Hero: Rocks the 80's.

For all of Activision's nonsense about the success of their DLC, it didn't sell nearly as well as Rocks the 80's did, and if everyone is to be believed about the higher cost of publishing online, the profit margin for the disc was probably larger than it was for the DLC. Therefore, we have empirical evidence that expansion discs are perfectly viable. The market is familiar with them and comfortable with their price. Harmonix makes more money off of them than they ever will if they price the DLC at more than $2 a pop. Virtually everyone here would buy the expansion disc, even if the songs were utter crap. However, we'll be much more picky with expensive DLC.

I'm not just whining because I want lower prices. I'm saying that it doesn't make any economical sense to use DLC if the profit margin is that much lower. The system does, indeed, seem broken at that point. I hope that Harmonix can work out these issues, so they make the millions of dollars that they deserve, but I feel they're crippling the potential of this game by linking it to a broken economic model.

[espher]

Oh, and I'd like to second the worry that they've already got their crap together regarding the French packaging.

If need be, just release the packaging in English and I'll translate it for all the non-English speaking francophones I know (all three of them).

[Jimmik]

I feel like I should add something productive to this thread but all I can do is mope around. I feel like george michael in arrested development doing my little charlie brown walk around the house with my head down. I sure hope DLC is cheap. I was surprised when the announced price went from the speculated $200 to $169, but I would rather fork out $30 earlier on than $1.50+ for each song I download afterwards :/

[trilidar]

Obviously not too happy about the DLC comments, but I'm surprised no one's said anything about this:

On wired and wireless guitars
It?s no surprise that Microsoft asks for quite a bit of pocket change to use their proprietary wireless technology, and rather than pay the price and have the two next-gen versions sell at different price points, Harmonix decided the best thing they could do for consumers was to decide against wireless Xbox 360 guitars.

The way it's written leads one to believe there will be NO wireless X360 guitars. And before anybody says 'Amazon and Gamestop and EB Games all have them listed as items' I offer the old 'until HMX or MTV confirms it-- it's just rumor' rebuttal.

Think about it a second. We have yet to actually see a wireless X360 controller. There's no FCC certification paperwork anywhere on the web. So what's going on here?

Someone from HMX needs to clarify this ASAP, because I have no intention of purchasing this game if I have no option of replacing the bundle's included wired guitar with some wireless axes later.

tril

[ZkDotNet]

Obviously not too happy about the DLC comments, but I'm surprised no one's said anything about this:

On wired and wireless guitars
It?s no surprise that Microsoft asks for quite a bit of pocket change to use their proprietary wireless technology, and rather than pay the price and have the two next-gen versions sell at different price points, Harmonix decided the best thing they could do for consumers was to decide against wireless Xbox 360 guitars.

The way it's written leads one to believe there will be NO wireless X360 guitars. And before anybody says 'Amazon and Gamestop and EB Games all have them listed as items' I offer the old 'until HMX or MTV confirms it-- it's just rumor' rebuttal.

Think about it a second. We have yet to actually see a wireless X360 controller. There's no FCC certification paperwork anywhere on the web. So what's going on here?

Someone from HMX needs to clarify this ASAP, because I have no intention of purchasing this game if I have no option of replacing the bundle's included wired guitar with some wireless axes later.

tril
I'm pretty sure that quote pertains only to the bundle. Alex Rigopulos (HMX CEO) said there would be wireless 360 controllers.

Just doesn't look like it'll happen this year.

[trilidar]

I'm pretty sure that quote pertains only to the bundle. Alex Rigopulos (HMX CEO) said there would be wireless 360 controllers.

Just doesn't look like it'll happen this year.

I hope you're right, but I've looked all over the web and have yet to find any solid confirmation of X360 wireless guitars anywhere but retailers.

Once again, given the ambiguity someone from MTV or HMX really needs to come out and clear the air.

tril

[ZkDotNet]

I'm too lazy to listen to it again, but I'm pretty sure I remember him mentioning it here. http://www.oxmpodcast.com/?p=102

[trilidar]

I'm too lazy to listen to it again, but I'm pretty sure I remember him mentioning it here. http://www.oxmpodcast.com/?p=102

BIG THANKS. It's been awhile since I listened to this and I'd completely forgotten it was discussed.

For those who are curious, wired and wireless X360 guitars are discussed at approx 45:20.

tril

[Apples]

I think folks are jumping to premature conclusions on DLC pricing. That article totally dodged the question on DLC.... confirmed nothing, denied nothing. The only thing that could be read into it was the possibility of a bulk discount--something already widely speculated.

The article was a good read though.

[logicalnoise]

good news for me. I bought most of the GH2 DLC. I hated how RO shafted us and waited 6 monthes to even offer a explanation. But in teh end I didn't mind the pricing.

[Brad_Lee]

I think folks are jumping to premature conclusions on DLC pricing. That article totally dodged the question on DLC.... confirmed nothing, denied nothing. The only thing that could be read into it was the possibility of a bulk discount--something already widely speculated.

The article was a good read though.

It sounds to me like DLC will be the same as it was in GH2. And they justified it by saying you get drums, mic and guitar.

[Bakkster]

I don't understand why people are excited about the "announcement" that we'll get DLC every week until the end of 2007. We were told from the start that DLC would be released every week. I'm slightly disturbed that he implied that the situation would change after December. This gives us five weeks of content, after which, according to the interview, they could conceivably stop producing DLC and go on to their next project.

I doubt this will happen, as they have formed an advisory board to select songs. I just see this bit of info as non-news.

I think what they meant is they have the licensing already set for all the DLC until next year, meaning they've guaranteed it until then. The DLC for next year still needs to be licensed.

I can't think of a way to interpret it as "We're done after the holidays".

[mobhit101]

It sounds to me like DLC will be the same as it was in GH2. And they justified it by saying you get drums, mic and guitar.

IF it is the same pricing as Guitar Hero's DLC or similiar, then it is justified.

[AdamBomb629]

It sounds to me like DLC will be the same as it was in GH2. And they justified it by saying you get drums, mic and guitar.

I'd be fine with that!

[TheTogfather]

I think what they meant is they have the licensing already set for all the DLC until next year, meaning they've guaranteed it until then. The DLC for next year still needs to be licensed.

I can't think of a way to interpret it as "We're done after the holidays".

Yah, this was the most troubling part of that article for me. The way they had worded the weekly DLC was 'for the first year of release' which I always took to mean 52 weeks of guaranteed DLC. It doesn't seem like that's necessarily the case now, however I do think you're right...there's not a lot of chance that they're 'done as of 2008' what with the Rock Band committee which I had forgot about. Just would have been nice to have it guaraneed weekly for much, much longer than 5 weeks. Oh well, still not too worried.


As for the rest, nothing I didn't really expect. DLC pricing I fully expect to be higher than 2 bucks, anyone thinking they would get a song for less than that has been fooling themselves. Hopefully it doesn't reach too much higher, but the simple fact that they aren't going to force you to buy a song you don't want, by bundling them or whatever, goes a long way.

[Bakkster]

Yah, this was the most troubling part of that article for me. The way they had worded the weekly DLC was 'for the first year of release' which I always took to mean 52 weeks of guaranteed DLC. It doesn't seem like that's necessarily the case now, however I do think you're right...there's not a lot of chance that they're 'done as of 2008' what with the Rock Band committee which I had forgot about. Just would have been nice to have it guaraneed weekly for much, much longer than 5 weeks. Oh well, still not too worried.

Well, worst case scenario is we get Whos Next, Metallica, and Grateful Dead DLC packs and two more weeks or fewer songs. I'll bet anyone the cost of a DLC pack that they'll be weekly for far longer than 5 weeks, though.

[AdamBomb629]

Yah, this was the most troubling part of that article for me. The way they had worded the weekly DLC was 'for the first year of release' which I always took to mean 52 weeks of guaranteed DLC. It doesn't seem like that's necessarily the case now, however I do think you're right...there's not a lot of chance that they're 'done as of 2008' what with the Rock Band committee which I had forgot about. Just would have been nice to have it guaraneed weekly for much, much longer than 5 weeks. Oh well, still not too worried.


As for the rest, nothing I didn't really expect. DLC pricing I fully expect to be higher than 2 bucks, anyone thinking they would get a song for less than that has been fooling themselves. Hopefully it doesn't reach too much higher, but the simple fact that they aren't going to force you to buy a song you don't want, by bundling them or whatever, goes a long way.

The DLC has to stop sometime! Won't there be a ROCK BAND 2?

[Keebler]

I'm worried about the fact that no individual instruments will be available until 2008. This could potentially dissuade a lot of gamers interested in the game who don't have the pocket change to get the entire bundle. I thought of the biggest draws of this game was the fact that there are 3 individual campaigns and 1 multiplayer campaign, meaning there's 4 games in 1. I thought it was looking like a marketing dream to allow players to pick and choose the instrument they want to get with the game.

I wish they could at least offer individual instruments exclusively through their website (that way, they don't have to worry about store retailers having stock/promotional issues).

[Jimmik]

I'm worried about the fact that no individual instruments will be available until 2008. This could potentially dissuade a lot of gamers interested in the game who don't have the pocket change to get the entire bundle. I thought of the biggest draws of this game was the fact that there are 3 individual campaigns and 1 multiplayer campaign, meaning there's 4 games in 1. I thought it was looking like a marketing dream to allow players to pick and choose the instrument they want to get with the game.

I wish they could at least offer individual instruments exclusively through their website (that way, they don't have to worry about store retailers having stock/promotional issues).

I agree with your concern. Because if you think about it, technically the game doesn't come with the full functionality it should right out of the box. If you purchase a bundle like that it should have all components to it. Really, the game is unplayable. If I didn't have an Xplorer controller already I'd be effed. Not cool.:(

[Bakkster]

I agree with your concern. Because if you think about it, technically the game doesn't come with the full functionality it should right out of the box. If you purchase a bundle like that it should have all components to it. Really, the game is unplayable. If I didn't have an Xplorer controller already I'd be effed. Not cool.:(

I'd hardly call it "unplayable". It just means that a single person can't buy a 4-player package at retail for a few months. Yeah, it sucks, but it still lets you play the 4 games in one, just not 4-player multi-player with just your instruments. Considering the fact that the alternative is probably to delay release until stock is high enough, this is probably a calculated decision that will affect fewer people and allow people to play the game earlier. Put another way, there are probably more people who just want the bundle than people who want only one instrument or who want 4 instruments all to themselves.

There are still options, however, including playing online to make a full band, or having a friend who also purchased the bundle bring an instrument to use. Yes it sucks, but letting most people play the game now and the rest wait until later is better than making everyone wait.

[kotran]

Yup, I'm the boat of not having an Xplorer controller already. Sure, I have two guitars for the PS2, but I recently bought the XBox 360 specifically for this game and the DLC. I'm in a form of limbo now. I was planning to buy GH3 for the PS2 since I already of guitars for it, and then was hoping to buy a second Strat when I picked up my bundle.

Now, I could buy GH3 for the 360, but I'd still have to buy 2 guitars for that so I could play with friends during the month til RB comes out. And THEN, pray that the GH3 guitar would work with RB.

On the other hand, I could buy GH2 for the 360 from someone on Craigslist in order to get the Explorer, and enjoy the extra songs that were on that disk that were not on the PS2.
Ughh..........

[Riboflavin]

I think my plan is to buy GH3 for the x360 and either wait for Rock Band to come out for the 2nd guitar (assuming that the RB guitar works with GH3) or buy a 2nd GH3 guitar and accept the fact that i will own 5 plastic guitars (2 PS2, 3 x360) assuming that the GH3 guitar works with Rock Band.

[AVC808]

i hardly think $170 is too much money for anyone with a job. if people are strapped for cash and really want it they can split the cost with friends or if you're a kid, ask for an early xmas gift.

the other option would be to buy the bundle and recoup $$$ (and this could actually be profitable based on supply and demand) by parting out on ebay or craigslist. the disc (for people who are only interested in guitar and will use the older guitars), strat (for people looking for an extra strat), drums (for people who want an extra drumset), im not sure you could really make more than $10 for the mic though, since you arent tied to only the rock band mic.
im thinking you can easily charge full retail price for the strat and drums because they wont even be available ala carte yet.
if the standalone game disc is offered, just bundle the disc with either the drums or strat for like $120. then sell the fender or drums that you didnt bundle for the $80. and hopefully you get $10 for the mic. (or bundle the mic with the other instrument for $100)

what do you guys think? i personally will be too busy rocking to consider buying extra bundles to resell for a profit, but there are always those crazy ebayers that do this kinda thing.

oh and for the true fans that are on this site, you could also make like a swap meet thread where you can pool together to get a bundle and split up the pieces you want so you wont be bound to paying full price for the bundle.

[Keebler]

Yeah. I think a lot of people on Craiglist and eBay are gonna be selling individual instruments for us chaps that absolutely need them. It's just a shame they won't be more commercially accessible.

[sporkBrigade]

"It was also mentioned that the Xbox 360 and PS3 content will be priced similarly."

I don't know why, but that's the only confirmation I cared about. I had this fear that 360 DLC was going to be more expensive. I'm relieved that this is not the case.

As for the actual cost of DLC, I really don't think that interview answered the question even remotely, so I wouldn't be up in arms quite yet over it. Don't get me wrong, I'm on the side of those who are touchy about this price point.

No individual instruments is unfortunate but expected. The part about Canada is also unfortunate, but hillarious. "Our advice? Drive south until you see a sign that says GameStop." That's gold. But my sympathies to our northern cousins...

[Phrank-E]

It seems the comments are code for "DLC will be as pricey if not more than GH II stuff, but they'll be on sale sometimes!" :(

That's not how I read it. It seemed pretty clear that they simply wouldn't comment at all about pricing. What they did say was that 360 and PS3 should be similarily priced (for RB, Not GH). All I could read into it other than that was that prices would differ depending on content/bundles/specials.

[AdamBomb629]

That's not how I read it. It seemed pretty clear that they simply wouldn't comment at all about pricing. What they did say was that 360 and PS3 should be similarily priced (for RB, Not GH). All I could read into it other than that was that prices would differ depending on content/bundles/specials.

It seemed to me that they were justifying the GH II pricing and saying, "You know, there is LOTS of things that go into DLC... so be prepared."