Just stop it. You are embarassing yourself.

[schmeankman]

I was in the Ultimate Setlist forum earlier today in the "Post 1 Album U Want in RB thread" and I posted the Ramones-The Ramones. In my expination I said "solid punk". An unamed user had to come in and say "its not punk". Interestingly enough his choices was a Clash album. Granted I didn't respond very maturely, but anyway The Ramones ARE punk. How can you say The Ramones are not punk? They were one of the leading bands in the punk movements! They inspired every punk band to date. They are the definition of true punk. The unamed user also claimed they were a beach boys rip off. Well try to tell me that this (http://youtube.com/watch?v=OYqlszAVGTI) sounds like this (http://youtube.com/watch?v=L--cqAI3IUI). Really what else can they be? Let me direct you to the Rock and Roll hall of fame. (http://www.rockhall.com/inductee/ramones)Also I am prepared for someone to say wat about Surfin Bird and Commando and dudududu by the Ramones? They sound Beach boy-ish Well they were covers. Please think before you talk.

[Zeleii]

Is unnamed member leftoverr_crack? xD

[schmeankman]

Well......yeah.

[Sgt Pepper]

Unnamed member- no longer unnamed.

[Zeleii]

Yeah was saying that in his "ultimate band" thing, that The Clash are reggae and the Outlaws are christian rock... The Outlaws are friggin country 0_o

[BhindBluEyes430]

he's got a point but he is wrong the ramones are punk but they aren't the Definition of "true punk"!

Their songs just don't have the the attitude of most punk bands. They just play songs really fast. and that is why they are considered a forefront of punk for playing really fast.

So yes Leftover Crack is wrong The ramones Are punk.

but I would never buy a full ablum for DLC it would be boring he is completly right when he said "The Clash" Album for DLC. only problem is 15 songs is a little much

The clash > The ramones

[schmeankman]

Well, I don't agree but I respect that.^

[Rock_Starman]

Yeah was saying that in his "ultimate band" thing, that The Clash are reggae and the Outlaws are christian rock... The Outlaws are friggin country 0_o

Right,see that's because the crack is no longer left over and at some point went bad.

[leftover_crack]

i heard my name

[leftover_crack]

They inspired every punk band to date. They are the definition of true punk.


no they didnt

the clash inspired every punk band to date

the ramones inspired 11 year old kids to start bands with out getting lessons

which is what some people consider punk but i geuss that is where i disagree

[BhindBluEyes430]

Well, I don't agree but I respect that.^

I was only trying to Give justifications for both sides of the argument

but at the same time my personally opinions on who I belive Greatest punk band of The Three originators The ramones,The Sex Pistols, And the Clash.

I just find the Clash more musically and lyrically interesting

But I do listen to all three and have that album you suggested by the ramones. they are still a fun band to listen too

[schmeankman]

no they didnt

the clash inspired every punk band to date

the ramones inspired 11 year old kids to start bands with out getting lessons

which is what some people consider punk but i geuss that is where i disagree
I wonder why no one else agrees? I also challenge you to listen to more of the complicated ramones songs. They had talent. Also how are the clash reegae?

[a21schizoidman]

no they didnt

the clash inspired every punk band to date

the ramones inspired 11 year old kids to start bands with out getting lessons

which is what some people consider punk but i geuss that is where i disagree

ahahahahahahahaha
you realize the Ramones are always mentioned by punk bands as very influential, and lets see, the Sex Pistols were before the Clash, so was MC5, the Velvet Underground, Iggy & the Stooges, and I hardly can consider most of what the Clash put out as punk

and you also think RATM is punk..... its really sad

how are they punk and the Ramones not?

[leftover_crack]

well one band sings about the beach and girls while the other sings about poverty and freedom


who is more punk?

[schmeankman]

well one band sings about the beach and girls while the other sings about poverty and freedom


who is more punk?
The Ramones:)

If what you sing about defines your genre, Lynyrd Skynyrd sing about wholesome ideas and belive in god. Does that make them christian?

[a21schizoidman]

well one band sings about the beach and girls while the other sings about poverty and freedom


who is more punk?

lyrics dont make a band....

what is Brand New Cadillac about? huh?
Train In Vain?
Rock the Casbah?
Janie Jones?

how about Pretty Vacant?

do u even know what punk rock is?