Cheating Singers?

[Symphonite]

This popped in my head yesterday. I have a bad feeling that people who are obsessed with getting the top score on XBL or whatever are going to cheat on vocals. All it would take is someone to isolate the original vocal track ingame, mute all other sounds and just put the microphone up to the TV speakers. Would this work, and what, if anything, could be done to prevent it?

[Keebler]

No. Feedback from the electronics would give you a loud screech that would destroy your eardrums. So yeah.... vocals cannot come through like that.

[Symphonite]

Turn it up loud enough and the sensitivity high enough and you can get the mic far enough from the TV to prevent feedback.

[Electric_Zen]

It would probably be easier just to put the mic up next to your electronic keyboard and play along, for songs that don't have phoneme detection.

[logicalnoise]

HMX said before back when they made karoke revolution it just doesn't work. Plus, QA would have undoubtedly tested this.

[milhouse]

I don't care if they do cheat. Who is it hurting? If they want to buy the game to just play a recording through the mic, let 'em. Their loss.

[hmxsean]

This popped in my head yesterday. I have a bad feeling that people who are obsessed with getting the top score on XBL or whatever are going to cheat on vocals. All it would take is someone to isolate the original vocal track ingame, mute all other sounds and just put the microphone up to the TV speakers. Would this work, and what, if anything, could be done to prevent it?

This would really be difficult to pull off. Far more difficult than even singing the song perfectly. We used to try this all the time but could never make it happen on any difficulty above easy with any even remote amount of certainty.

[aaron_wil]

This would really be difficult to pull off. Far more difficult than even singing the song perfectly. We used to try this all the time but could never make it happen on any difficulty above easy with any even remote amount of certainty.

From the Horse's mouth...

[Symphonite]

This would really be difficult to pull off. Far more difficult than even singing the song perfectly. We used to try this all the time but could never make it happen on any difficulty above easy with any even remote amount of certainty.

Good to hear.

[The_Vampire_Lestat]

If anything the singing will be the easiest to "cheat".


If it is like KR or SS... with phoneme detection only in a very small section of the songs.. or so is rumored... you won't have to sing at all. You can make humming noises and it will register... so long as your pitch is correct.

[Bakkster]

If you were REALLY lame you could, as Electric_Zen said, use a keyboard. If I Did It, I would plug my output directly as the mic input and set up a MIDI sequence to play along.

Of course, this is pretty pointless and incredibly lame. I'll be the one making a fool of myself with the mic.

[tucsonovernite]

dusts off Seinfeld quote:

Well, obviously, we all know each other very well, I'm sure that we'll all feel comfortable within the confines of the honor system...

or what Sean said.

[hmxsean]

If anything the singing will be the easiest to "cheat".


If it is like KR or SS... with phoneme detection only in a very small section of the songs.. or so is rumored... you won't have to sing at all. You can make humming noises and it will register... so long as your pitch is correct.

True... to an extent. The hardest part of singing is hitting the pitch not saying the words. And often times when people just hum their way through the song they actually are pretty well off as their brain attributes, contextually, the pitch to the word or sound being spoken. We've done a lot of research. ;)

[R0ck3r]

True... to an extent. The hardest part of singing is hitting the pitch not saying the words. And often times when people just hum their way through the song they actually are pretty well off as their brain attributes, contextually, the pitch to the word or sound being spoken. We've done a lot of research. ;)

If thats supposed to mean what your voice actually sounds like is different than what it sounds like in your brain, there's trial and error. You can keep trying until you get the right pitch, or if you REALLY are obsessed with trying it that way, record yourself and play it back and change you voice according to that until you get it right.

[Bakkster]

If thats supposed to mean what your voice actually sounds like is different than what it sounds like in your brain, there's trial and error. You can keep trying until you get the right pitch, or if you REALLY are obsessed with trying it that way, record yourself and play it back and change you voice according to that until you get it right.

I think it may also have to do with different parts of your brain interacting. One part of your brain controls pitch, another controls language. Getting those two to talk is tricky. It's possible that by simply humming you are better able to be on pitch, while saying the words distracts you.

[RkBndDrmr]

Yeah, but I'm sure we will see some awesome singers..with the vid on You Tube to boot.

I will not be one of them :p

[weirdingway]

Humming is essentially cheating (think REM on KR), so even if someone doesn't use some technology to earn a high score, not actually singing the song when the words are clearly given to you is just as bad and deserves just as much booing and hissing.

I, for one, will only be comparing scores between my friends. That way I can challenge them to see if their skill is geniune.

[xfMike]

I could possibly see someone isolating the Vocal track in a Guitar Pro file, and having that MIDI track of the vocals play while you have you Microphone next to your speakers. If it is a good GP file, it will be 100% spot on... All you would have to do is hit a little button and the vocal track will be the only audible track.

But as it has already been said... the feedback would be terrible.

[Spear_of_Destiny]

but what about the crash test dummies? oh nose! i guess i wont be seeing them up for DLC...

/satire ;)

[Xzyliac]

Cheating on singing would be very lame. Who in their right mind would do it? Besides attention whores.