Any info on Solo Careers?

[stiper327b]

Okay, now that the no BWT on-line bombshell has been dropped, let's move on.

We've been inundated over the past few days with mound after mound of great news, but one thing that hasn't been touched upon are the solo careers. I know this game is geared towards co-op, towards the full band experience, but there will still be some who just can't devote the time and energy necessary for a full fledged BWT experience.

And I know that it has been mentioned that the solo careers will be more akin to the GH careers, but how much so? Will there be any elements from the BWT that will make it into the solo careers? Will the venue progression be the same? Will the playlists be dynamic, or the same old traditionally static affiairs? Will the band be as customizable as it is in BWT (name, logos, mottos, decals, etc.)? And will we have any Rock Moment decisions to make?

Just wondering if anybody knows anything, or if mayhap a dev could come in and shed some light.

[MartyMcFly]

And will we have any Rock Moment decisions to make?


EDIT: I just read in another thread, as mentioned in a replay below, that the single player tour mode will be more like GH career. Just go through, unlike songs, venues, gear, etc.

[stiper327b]

The Rock Moments are the decisions you have to make, such as playing a benefit gig for no money but extra fans, or selling out for extra money but risk losing your hardcore fans.

I don't know if that's the term for them, I just thought that's what IGN was calling them, and I don't really want to go back to the article to confirm.

I can only hope that the solo modes are as in depth as the BWT. Honestly, I can't understand why they wouldn't be. I know they want people to feel what it's like to play in a band, but why hamstring those who can't?

[ZkDotNet]

The solo careers are more like the traditional GH mode. None of that fancy-schmancy tour management stuff.

[Quastor]

I don't remember where, but somewhere on this forum a HMX rep (damn by bad memory!) stated that the solo modes are much more akin to what we're familiar with in GH. So no, it won't be anywhere near as in depth as BWT.

[peachpunker63]

I don't remember where, but somewhere on this forum a HMX rep (damn by bad memory!) stated that the solo modes are much more akin to what we're familiar with in GH. So no, it won't be anywhere near as in depth as BWT.

That sucks but i guess i can practice all the different things then be really good for rock band world tour which rocks!

[HeXcoda]

This stinks on ice.

Can we even make a BAND in solo? Design a logo, name it..? Or are we just playing for the anonymous band like in GH?

Why did Harmonix lock so much of the game's content behind a mode that mandates local multiplayer only?

Ugh. I keep posting about this, I should stop... but it's just so disappointing. I feel like the awesomeness I was waiting for has been taken away. (And first person to say "lol get some friends nerd" gets an axe to the face.)

[Majik_Ninja]

lol get some friends nerd

[mmorgan184]

lol get some friends nerd

Needs to be quoted.

[Edgehopper]

lol get some friends nerd

We have friends. Sadly, they aren't as fanatically hyped for Rock Band as we are, and would rather spend time at their jobs and with significant others than rocking out with us. Majik Ninja, I'm guessing you're still in college or younger?

[markmw]

I wouldn't know about Majik Ninja, but I'm in High Scool. I'm in the 9th grade, I've repeated it 4 teh 2nd time. And at teh rate I'm going, I might have to repeat it for a 3rd time...

[Majik_Ninja]

We have friends. Sadly, they aren't as fanatically hyped for Rock Band as we are, and would rather spend time at their jobs and with significant others than rocking out with us. Majik Ninja, I'm guessing you're still in college or younger?


I just wanted the axe in the face as promised by HeXcoda lol. Im actually in the same boat here, getting rb and gh3 and nobody to play em with. And no, not in college, a bit past that. But if only i could b young again.....

[BiffMan]

For me it's not that I won't have friends I can get together and play with, it's just we won't be able to get together nearly as often (little details like children and families and other such sundries) so it would be nice to hear some extra info on solo mode since that's where the majority of my play is likely going to be.

[stiper327b]

I mean seriously, does this not seem illogical? It's like making the Franchise mode in Madden multi-player only. I have never heard of a deeper and more impressive mode in a music/rhythm game, and most developers would kill to be able to implement a third of what HMX is doing. It's amazing in all regards, and likely took up a huge chunk of development time, and yet they're only making it so that a certain percentage of people can enjoy it, as opposed to everybody who buys the game.

I've never, ever, once doubted that Rock Band will be an amazing game, and I still don't, but am I ever going to get over the feeling that I'm missing something because my friends have priorities in their life they deem more important than Rock Band?

[HeXcoda]

Let's get this thread back on track rather than going "LOL NERDZ NO FRIENDS", thanks.

We need details on how Solo works.

WORST CASE SCENARIO: You don't design a band, you don't pick a name or a logo or anything. You just play your character in the Generic Guitar Hero Style Band. You plow through stock tiers where you play four songs, unlock, lather, rinse, repeat. Beat last song, neat cutscene, done. Move on to repeat same process for next instrument.

BEST CASE SCENARIO: BWT elements are here -- variable setlists, moving from venue to venue in vehicles. You can create a band and name it and define who the NPC players will be, even if you only control one of them. You make Rock Moment decisions. The experience is very dynamic and engaging and not just "Here's your pile of songs, get to work."

I'd love Best Case Scenario but recent HMX posts about how they will not make a BWT experience for solo players lead me to suspect it's just gonna be a Guitar Hero progression clone. I would LOVE to be proven wrong. Can we get some info..? Please?

[Simonious]

I wouldn't know about Majik Ninja, but I'm in High Scool. I'm in the 9th grade, I've repeated it 4 teh 2nd time. And at teh rate I'm going, I might have to repeat it for a 3rd time...

Has anyone ever told you 'I hate you so damn much!'?

[Schultzy]

Let's get this thread back on track rather than going "LOL NERDZ NO FRIENDS", thanks.

We need details on how Solo works.

WORST CASE SCENARIO: You don't design a band, you don't pick a name or a logo or anything. You just play your character in the Generic Guitar Hero Style Band. You plow through stock tiers where you play four songs, unlock, lather, rinse, repeat. Beat last song, neat cutscene, done. Move on to repeat same process for next instrument.

BEST CASE SCENARIO: BWT elements are here -- variable setlists, moving from venue to venue in vehicles. You can create a band and name it and define who the NPC players will be, even if you only control one of them. You make Rock Moment decisions. The experience is very dynamic and engaging and not just "Here's your pile of songs, get to work."

I'd love Best Case Scenario but recent HMX posts about how they will not make a BWT experience for solo players lead me to suspect it's just gonna be a Guitar Hero progression clone. I would LOVE to be proven wrong. Can we get some info..? Please?

Sorry, man. I'm not sure we're gonna get too much info from here on out.
But honestly guys, be greatful for what you've got comin your way...don't get me wrong, I'm a lil dissapointed with the way solo career is shaping up, but you guys, IT'S ROCK BAND. You know, the thing you/I/we've been waiting for SINCE APRIL. Don't back out now and be all "Oh, I'm so dissapointed I don't even know if I should buy it anymore".

I'm not trying to be specific or anything, but some people's remarks that I've seen in the past day or two just make me sick...:mad:

[king23]

This games sounds awesome.

[LongDarkBlues]

Seriously guys, pouting is not very rock n' roll. Maybe you'd feel better if you smashed an Xplorer...

I was tempted to start a "I don't care at all if BWT has online multiplayer' thread, but there's clearly enough threads going on about it already. It's not that it's be a bad feature to have, but I just can't fathom ever using it - you can STILL play full band songs online with your distant friends and coordinating all your friends in 4 different places for the BWT (perhaps different time zones, different living situations, perhaps having had to buy multiple full sets) seems like a pain in the ass.

Plus, like a real band, it IS a pain to get everyone together to practice - I think BWT sessions are going to mean a lot more if you onyl get to do it once a week or once a month - the decisions carry a lot more gravity, failing a song has a lot more impact, and kicking ass together is a lot more rewarding. It's all part of a band sim, which is what BWT is.
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[PurpleHaze]

you can STILL play full band songs online with your distant friends and coordinating all your friends in 4 different places for the BWT (perhaps different time zones, different living situations, perhaps having had to buy multiple full sets) seems like a pain in the ass.Everybody's situation is different - for me, it's far easier to co-ordinate online get togethers with my friends than it is to co-ordinate "real" get togethers - just jumping online is easier and quicker. If that's not true for you, well ... then no wonder you're not disappointed.

[milkman4591]

Everybody's situation is different - for me, it's far easier to co-ordinate online get togethers with my friends than it is to co-ordinate "real" get togethers - just jumping online is easier and quicker. If that's not true for you, well ... then no wonder you're not disappointed.

QFT. I have tons of people I would love to invite over, but they all suck at rhythm games, and that's no fun. Having to teach people is a total turn-off, would be great just to find people online who you know won't butcher the song.

[LongDarkBlues]

Then just play the online quick play! You can still play all the songs with people across the planet forminghe full band - the only funtional difference is that people in other towns aren't unlocking stuff for you.

[IErrantVentureI]

I have no friends! Please let there be some form of BWT in the SWT..

[PurpleHaze]

Then just play the online quick play! You can still play all the songs with people across the planet forminghe full band - the only funtional difference is that people in other towns aren't unlocking stuff for you.
That statement is simply not true. If there is no "functional difference" between BWT and quick play, then why have Harmonix obviously spent a lot of time and resources developing BWT, why was everybody on here excited when BWT was first announced, why bother including a BWT at all. Maybe BWT doesn't actually interest you, but the mechanics that have been described clearly do interest a lot of people, and to attempt to dismiss it as no different than quick play is absurd.

[dlisapussy]

Please let there be some form of BWT in the SWT..

Thats the way it should be.

As a solo artist you should get to play just like BWT, and do different things such as pair up with other great musicians or bands for extra money.

IDK just thoughts

Solo career doesn't seem like anything but practice now, plus they don't even have a bass career.

[HeXcoda]

Then just play the online quick play! You can still play all the songs with people across the planet forminghe full band - the only funtional difference is that people in other towns aren't unlocking stuff for you.

I am planning to do online quick play -- it's the only way I'm likely ever going to be able to play with a full band.

But BWT is what makes this game different from Guitar Hero. It puts structure, decision making, and narrative to the game. It's more than just "Here's your playlist, start playing." And a lot of us really, really, really want to play that. It's half the reason to buy RB, the other half being the new instruments.

I don't get why I have to keep explaining why this is important...

I think the REAL purpose of this thread -- "New info on solo careers" is kinda dead until an HMXer can come in and tell us. And if it's just a GH clone for solo "careers" then, well, definitely dead thread. Hopefully there's more going on than that. Developers! Please? Throw a bone.

[hardyfoster]

it probably is
but perhaps they will be able to make the ps2 bwt playable with 1 person.

[Pandacon]

I have to agree with the disappointment of not having BWT either 1 player and/or online. I have friends, and yes I will be playing this game with them, but I work, and we are all busy doing various things in our lives, so its not like we hang out all that often. So I do see myself playing this game by my lonesome for the mostpart, and I would like to experience this cool BWT mode.

[NotorietyH]

There's a Band World Tour mode? Cool!

I wonder if you'll be able to play it single player...

[milkman4591]

This stinks on ice.

Can we even make a BAND in solo? Design a logo, name it..? Or are we just playing for the anonymous band like in GH?

Why did Harmonix lock so much of the game's content behind a mode that mandates local multiplayer only?

Ugh. I keep posting about this, I should stop... but it's just so disappointing. I feel like the awesomeness I was waiting for has been taken away. (And first person to say "lol get some friends nerd" gets an axe to the face.)

Excellent way to put it, exactly how I feel. And after that person gets axed, I get to kick them in the chest :D

[hardyfoster]

hopefully they can make BWT for one person in ps2 version.
they haven't got a Wii version yet, so maybe in there. I hope they do it somewhere? Gameboy perhaps ? i'll even let them use my old atari computer if they need to. :p

SIGH. ditto as said above. I'm all excited and the best parts of the game are locked out to us single people. Maybe I should get married huh?

Maybe I can pay a kid $10.00 a day to play for 4 hours a day with no breaks.

hopefully some hackers can find a hack or something.

i might need to check myself into an institution since I can't play BWT as single player. (i know i'm getting silly -so what)

i know! i'll hire some navy seals to break into harmonix, change the code, put the new disc in whereever they duplicate it and no one will ever find out! whenever there is a problem and you need help, call, the A-team !

[jq71586]

I think I'm just going to do what some people have stated in some threads. Buy a cheap microphone stand and put the singing on easy until I memorize most of the lyrics to some of the songs I'm not too familiar with and then play guitar on expert or drums on medium and just work up from there.

It's the most reasonable way to play BWT if you have no one around to play. Which is me during the work week. The weekend is all set to be BWT with 4 people.