What is the best Guitar Solo ever?? [Archive] - Rock Band Forums // Rock Band®

Nilsen31

10-26-2007, 03:27 AM

Thrashdragon

10-26-2007, 07:34 AM

Comfortably Numb. No contest.

When you listen to it, it's hard not to think the guitar was specifically made to play that song.

+1

I never really appreciated it until I listened to it, umm, in a certain state of mind years ago. It seemed to go on forever and just flowed perfectly throughout. One of my favorites.

caex12

10-26-2007, 04:17 PM

Freebird

Green Grass & High Tides.

Comfortably Numb

25 or 6 to 4

Sultans of Swing

Heartbreaker

Anything Molly Hatchet

Guitar solos aren't about play 3,000,000,000 notes in a span of a minute.

It's gotta sound good. I can't listen to metal solos...it doesn't sound very musical it just sounds like a ****load of notes being played at once...like he's trying to just play as fast as he can. You don't show how good of a guitarist you are by how fast you can play but how well you can play and not only play but by playing something that is pleasant to the ears. :thumbsdown:

I think you should know that not all metal solos are like that. Please don't lump all metal solos into the "fast but not melodic/musical or whatever" category, it's both a stupid thing to do and ignorant.

Nilsen31

10-27-2007, 05:14 AM

i like to generalize and offend everyone with one fair swoop.

:cool:

sensei

10-27-2007, 10:10 AM

Obviously Machine Gun by Hendrix or maybe Stairway to Heaven but that one is like mentioned everywhere you turn so im going with God Hendrix

deputysalty

10-27-2007, 01:32 PM

Freebird

Green Grass & High Tides.

Comfortably Numb

25 or 6 to 4

Sultans of Swing

Heartbreaker

Anything Molly Hatchet

Guitar solos aren't about play 3,000,000,000 notes in a span of a minute.

It's gotta sound good. I can't listen to metal solos...it doesn't sound very musical it just sounds like a ****load of notes being played at once...like he's trying to just play as fast as he can. You don't show how good of a guitarist you are by how fast you can play but how well you can play and not only play but by playing something that is pleasant to the ears. :thumbsdown:
Spot on. You really nailed the hammer on the head.

As far as Jimi Hendrix is concerned, I'd say Little Wing was his killer solo piece.

I'd toss in Achilles Last Stand by Zeppelin, and Moonage Daydream (live) by Bowie, but commendations on the amazing list.

clearGHOST

10-28-2007, 07:46 AM

Pink Floyd-
Comfortably Numb
Dogs

Led Zeppelin
Achilles Last Stand

Living Colour
Cult of Personality

Jimi Henedrix
Voodoo Child

To name a few

caex12

10-28-2007, 11:59 AM

Green Carnation - Light of Day Day of Darkness
Bruce Dickinson - Man of Sorrow
Judas Priest - Beyond The Realms of Death
Pain of Salvation - People Passing BY

Contra

10-28-2007, 03:22 PM

November Rain by GNR. IMO It has two solos, so its hard to pick one. The ending solo is the one that inspired me to play guitar.

ManOwaR

10-29-2007, 01:46 AM

I've never done drugs, so Pink Floyd isn't on my top 1000 songs. Blah.

Jimi is my favorite soloist, and the body of his work at such a young age is unbelievable!

ManOwaR

10-29-2007, 01:59 AM

(yes I see the irony that no drugs and Jimi going together, but his music is good regardless of your mental state~!!)

DannyL

10-29-2007, 11:29 AM

My personal favorite solo ever would be the solo in Zombie Inc. by In Flames because it fits the music so well, but best solo i dunno i'd say Hangar 18 is up there jsut because its long as hell solo battle, but it never gets old

newwaytodie

10-29-2007, 12:08 PM

I've heard A LOT of guitar solos and I don't know about BEST, but one of my top all time favorite guitar solos is on "Mr. Crowley" by Ozzy Osbourne. Randy Rhoads was amazing, I just wish he could have lived longer to create more amazing metal.

I_Wanna_Rock

10-30-2007, 05:57 AM

It is too bad that we wont ever know how many more bad ass solos he could have had.

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Atsumi

10-30-2007, 06:53 AM

I've never done drugs, so Pink Floyd isn't on my top 1000 songs. Blah.
I've never done drugs either and I'm still going to say Comfortably Numb.

guitaristbmh

10-31-2007, 06:11 AM

Well I'm a metal head, so gonna have to go with:

Black Label Society- Blood is Thicker than Water
Black Label Society- In this River (live)

Any live version of In this River kicks the crud out of the studio recording.

I_Wanna_Rock

10-31-2007, 06:43 AM

That is the biggest misconception about Pink Floyd. Drugs are not necessary. They are phenomenal period…..

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Sleepy211

11-01-2007, 07:59 AM

My Favorite are as follows

Metallica - Guitar Solo In Memory Of Cliff - To Live is to Die (live)

The Outlaws - Green Grass and High Tides

Ted Nugent - Stranglehold

Sevendust - Black 2 mins 40 secs into song theres a short awsome solo , pure sicness !!

Metallica - Sanitarium and fade to black

Dream theater - Pull me under

AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST MY FAVORITE GUITAR SOLO'ST IS -Andy McKee

HERE IS HIS YOU TUBE LINK - hes not your average guitar player , but has my highest respect of any player to date with his style of play .

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Saltines

11-03-2007, 04:44 AM

Mr. Crowley - Ozzy.
RIP Randy Rhoads.
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Comfortably Numb- Pink Floyd.
Highway Star- Deep Purple.
Achilles Last Stand-Led Zeppelin.
Cliffs of Dover - Eric Johnson.

Intellectualdiot

11-03-2007, 10:54 AM

Eastern-Eagles

11-03-2007, 11:00 AM

Pink Floyd - Comfortably Numb
Guns N Roses - Sweet Child O' Mine
Pearl Jam - Alive
Rush - La Villa Strangiato
Wilco - Impossible Germany
Cream - Crossroads
Smashing Pumpkins - Siva
Pink Floyd - Time
Pink Floyd - Dogs
Rush - Working Man

Those are some of my favorites.

I_Wanna_Rock

11-07-2007, 05:12 AM

That guy Rocks....What band does he play for????

Spankyboy0710

11-07-2007, 04:45 PM

That is the biggest misconception about Pink Floyd. Drugs are not necessary. They are phenomenal period?..

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The biggest misconception about Pink Floyd is that they belong on any list other than "most influential". (Nirvana is on that list too, but it certainly doesn't solidify their place as rock gods.)

They did some amazing cutting edge stuff with multi-track recording before the technology was ever streamlined or even invented for that matter. David Gilmore is an amazing guitarist and has an amazing voice. Roger Waters I can do without. As a complete work, their catalog just doesn't hold water to the other big names of their time. Most of their momentum comes from coming of age kids needing something perceivably rebellious to hold on to. I guess the fact that this spans the generations is saying something, however.

It's the same with bands like Slipknot, Disturbed, et. al. They provide a soundtrack for teens' rebellious attitude, whether it's good or not. It's just merely something they can call their own that the adults don't like. The only difference is Pink Floyd's music actually had a little substance.

Oh, and you guys seriously need to stop starting these threads for the sole purpose of promoting your website. See if this site has a fan link page or something.

battle_axe_of_doom

11-07-2007, 04:55 PM

lmao how the **** can you seriously "do without" roger waters?? he was the ****ing lyricist for gods sake

Spankyboy0710

11-07-2007, 05:05 PM

lmao how the **** can you seriously "do without" roger waters?? he was the ****ing lyricist for gods sake

Waters wrote a lot of the lyrics and had final say, but Gilmour also wrote many and more importantly sang a lot of your favorite Pink Floyd songs. That's Gilmour singing on "Wish You Were Here". That's Waters' ragedy ass voice on "Another Brick In The Wall".

Mournblade77

11-07-2007, 06:35 PM

Umm, yeah, besides The Piper at the Gates of Dawn and Atom Heart Mother (Both Syd Barret Era Albums) name a bad pink floyd album? They deserve their spot in the 'gods' of rock category. No they are not a blues based band, like thier contempories, so mabye they are to 'easy listening' for you. And as for labeling them a 'teenage rebellion' band, I think you must be confusing Floyd and the Who.

Spankyboy0710

11-08-2007, 03:51 AM

And as for labeling them a 'teenage rebellion' band, I think you must be confusing Floyd and the Who.

I didn't label them a "teenage rebellion band". I said that's the audience they drew. You don't have to write specifically about teenage rebellion to be attractive to that audience. Although, I would incourage you to take another listen to "Another Brick In The Wall".

Rock and Roll has always been about rebellion. And that's ok.

4degrees

11-09-2007, 03:15 AM

I still get the shivers every time I hear/play Freebird even after like 200+ times

battle_axe_of_doom

11-09-2007, 06:12 AM

Waters wrote a lot of the lyrics and had final say, but Gilmour also wrote many and more importantly sang a lot of your favorite Pink Floyd songs. That's Gilmour singing on "Wish You Were Here". That's Waters' ragedy ass voice on "Another Brick In The Wall".

who says wish you were here is one of my favorite PF songs?? animals is by far my favorite pink floyd album and thats a roger waters dominated album. i'm not saying waters is more important than gilmour or he's a better singer, but to say that waters was useless to floyd is just absurd. personally none of them are useless (yes even nick mason isn't useless) and they ARE rock gods

Spankyboy0710

11-09-2007, 09:51 AM

who says wish you were here is one of my favorite PF songs?? animals is by far my favorite pink floyd album and thats a roger waters dominated album. i'm not saying waters is more important than gilmour or he's a better singer, but to say that waters was useless to floyd is just absurd. personally none of them are useless (yes even nick mason isn't useless) and they ARE rock gods

I said "I can do without him". It's my opinion. Obviously not a widely held view. That's fine. I've grown weary of this discussion.

Eastwood

11-09-2007, 11:07 AM

This is the best solo... ever....

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ROFLCOPTER

Chthonic

11-11-2007, 06:28 AM

Best. Solo. Ever. (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6628929648939980168&q=Yngwie+Malmsteen+parody&total=13&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2)

Tender-Surrender

11-14-2007, 04:48 AM

What a ridiculously difficult question. I'll narrow it down to five... err, six.

King Crimson - Sailor's Tale (specifically, the version from Islands
Pink Floyd - Dogs (specifically, Gilmour's first solo)
Steve Vai - Fire Garden Suite (which I'm counting as one long form solo ha)
John Petrucci - The Glass Prison
Eric Clapton - Crossroads (you know the one)
Rush - The Camera Eye

For Steve Vai I would say Taurus Bulba(the last section of Fire Garden Suite).

For the Love of God and Tender Surrender!

All Along the Watchtower- Jimi Hendrix
Voodoo Child- Jimi
Machine Gun- Jimi

#1 Time- Pink Floyd
Comfortably Numb- Pink Floyd

Cliffs of Dover
Much more, cannot even think of!!

Name_No_One_Man

11-14-2007, 07:49 AM

My Rock List -

Pink FLoyd - COmfortably Numb
Ozzy - Mr Crowley
Skynard - FreeBird
Derek and the Dominos - Layla
Queen - Killer Queen
GNR - November Rain
Rush - La Villa
Steve Vai - Feathers / Frank / For the Love of God (3 different solo types)
Frank Zappa - Stevies Spanking (someone needs to name Zappa.. He is far to unappreciated)

I will give a Metal list also but i have to think a bit. (other than the stated Ozzy solo)

Black-Metal-Bodom

11-14-2007, 09:26 AM

such a great solo is the third solo in laid to rest by sinergy
Alexi Laiho is great in that solo
it is so emotional

battle_axe_of_doom

11-14-2007, 02:03 PM

^ lmao <JJJJJJJJJ>

Stevenam81

11-14-2007, 03:06 PM

No one can solo like Kirk.......

I love Kirk Hammet's stuff, but Dimebag Darrell could play any of that stuff and not break a sweat. Of course any topic like this is just opinions. There is really no answer to this.

One of my favorite Pantera solos is "10's" from The Greath Southern Trendkill. I just love the mood it sets. If you put on some good headphones and give it your full attention it can take you to another place.

I don't really have a favorite solo though. I will say that I place many of Dime's solos above all others. It just depends on what I'm in the mood for.

Ron_Sly

11-14-2007, 11:25 PM

Def Allen Collins and Gary Rossingtons Free Bird solo

Dragonforce has an amazing solo.

Randy Rhodes with Crazy Train and Mr. Crowely

Jimmy Page in Stairway to Heaven

Angus Young in Back in Black

caex12

11-15-2007, 07:12 AM

I love Kirk Hammet's stuff, but Dimebag Darrell could play any of that stuff and not break a sweat. Of course any topic like this is just opinions. There is really no answer to this.

One of my favorite Pantera solos is "10's" from The Greath Southern Trendkill. I just love the mood it sets. If you put on some good headphones and give it your full attention it can take you to another place.

I don't really have a favorite solo though. I will say that I place many of Dime's solos above all others. It just depends on what I'm in the mood for.

And there are other guitarists who could play any of Dimebag's material and not break a sweat.

FrshChees

11-16-2007, 01:07 PM

I like the Orion solos...bass and guitar
Metallica's Blackened is also a really crazy awesome solo.
Stairway To Heaven (of course)
Red House

Too many to name...

dlisapussy

11-17-2007, 07:53 AM

I wouldn't say Comfortably Numb's solo is the greatest, but it sends shivers down my spine. Not that other songs don't, but this one sends shivers every single time, and sends them in an abundance.

Nilsen31

11-17-2007, 01:00 PM

25 or 6 to 4 - Chicago

any Skynyrd song...a bunch of Led Zeppelin songs

Let it Rain - Eric Clapton

more stuff w/ Eric Clapton

and uhhh a lot more.

Requiem

11-17-2007, 08:13 PM

Hotel California - Eagles

Guitar_Hero_God999

11-18-2007, 05:36 AM

No question. Jimi Hendrix Live

S1L3n7_M4yh3m

11-18-2007, 05:43 AM

Freebird

Green Grass & High Tides.

Comfortably Numb

25 or 6 to 4

Sultans of Swing

Heartbreaker

Anything Molly Hatchet

Guitar solos aren't about play 3,000,000,000 notes in a span of a minute.

It's gotta sound good. I can't listen to metal solos...it doesn't sound very musical it just sounds like a ****load of notes being played at once...like he's trying to just play as fast as he can. You don't show how good of a guitarist you are by how fast you can play but how well you can play and not only play but by playing something that is pleasant to the ears. :thumbsdown:
When you say "Metal Solos" Thats quite alot of bands that most people think to be hard rock or in your case you think their all fast, listen to iron maiden, blue oyster cult, or Ozzy.

SRButton

11-18-2007, 06:04 AM

Not so much a "solo" but a nice little instrumental piece:
Dee - by Randy Rhoads

Burner110

11-18-2007, 12:20 PM

System of a down-psycho

battle_axe_of_doom

11-18-2007, 12:21 PM

^ rofl <JJJJJJJJJ>

senomar

11-18-2007, 12:38 PM

Led Zeppelin- Whole Lotta Love
Led Zeppelin- Heartbreaker
Living Colour- Cult of Personality
Stone Temple Pilots- Down

Choosing a single song for the "greatest solo of all time" is damn near impossible, and even narrowing it to 4 was difficult.

starkukraine

11-18-2007, 12:40 PM

Buckethead

idiotec

11-18-2007, 12:44 PM

Best? IDK, but some props need to go to:

Jonny Greenwood - Paranoid Android

As far as a solo that really captures the emotion of the song, I have to agree with Comfortably Numb. Such a great piece.

caex12

11-22-2007, 06:32 AM

The solo in these songs are amazing:

Pain of Salvation - People Passing By
Green Carnation - Light of Day Day of Darkness

Stormhammer

02-05-2008, 03:18 PM

Some great solos were mentioned but to be greatest of all time that is hard to say. I would have to start with the power metal bands with two guitar players. The alternating solos on Keeper of the Seven Keys from Helloween would have to be my choice love the guitar solos on that song. Two great guitar player in Kai Hansen and Michael Weikath shredding it out

Rockbandfan23467

02-05-2008, 05:21 PM

Alright, Hold Tight,

I'M A HIGHWAY STAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!

JustAndrew420

02-05-2008, 07:36 PM

With the exception of Free Bird, I really don't like solos that last for 5 - 7 minutes, to me, a solo is something that should go well with the song.

Like in "Something", short little solo, but it fits so well to the song...and it rocks....

fighting69th

02-05-2008, 08:02 PM

Judas Priest-Tyrant

Ozzy/Randy(both live)- Mr Crowley/Flying High

Dragonforce- My Spirit Will Go On

Overkill- End of the Line

Judas Priest(again)-Exciter

Testament-Love to Hate

Deep Purple-Highway Star (of course)

Metallica-Phantom Lord

Rigor Mortis- Shroud of Gloom

BlingShyne2

02-07-2008, 03:35 AM

Two of the most beautiful guitar solo's ever are done by Jimmy Hendrix.

Bold as love

and

Little Wing

Also, Even though dave mustaine is a douche bag (Very few guitarists aren't), Jump in the Fire, Hit the Lights and The Conjuring are three of my favorite guitar solos of all time.

Even though megadeth is kind of cheesy now a days, the way metallica has drifted, they aren't even worthy of licking the **** encrusted on megadeths *******.

Explicit, but true.

Also Chemical Warfare and Agressive Perfector by Slayer.

Oh yeah and Wake the Dead by Suicidal Tendancies.

And of course, Surfing with the Alien by Joe Sat. Great great guitar work.

Those of you checking the top shredder lists and all that really should stop.

Nitro is one of the ****tiest bands of all time btw, don't know if it was mentioned or not. But some of you guys should explore music yourselves.

cadams8_32

02-07-2008, 07:47 AM

November Rain - Slash
I just got done reading his book, and he is the first to tell you that he is not the most talented guitar player out there, but that solo just seems to flow from him. I can't hear it without wanting to pick up a guitar and play that first high note.

DETHKLOKPWNT

02-07-2008, 12:05 PM

Hangar 18
Anything from protest the hero
Ride The Lightning
Hot For Teacher
The Sound Of Truth-As I Lay Dying:eek:

ConF1icTz

02-08-2008, 10:30 AM

FreeBird...end of story. A 6 minute solo cant be matched

OldFogey

02-08-2008, 01:18 PM

FreeBird...end of story. A 6 minute solo cant be matched

That stuff is junk -- one cliche after another driven into the ground with repetition. I'm not even that big of a fan but I'd take Joe Walsh and Don Felder at the end of Hotel California any day -- much more interesting changes to have to play over, much more melodic, and way lower on the cliche ratio.

Don't know why Southern Rock went so far down hill after the Allmans, but just playing the two Southern Rock songs on RB on guitar should convince you -- just look how repetitive they are. And the repetition is over rock cliches you've heard a million times.

gocryemokid

02-08-2008, 02:14 PM

Cliffs of Dover FTW

OldFogey

02-08-2008, 02:14 PM

This is a singular example of what I love in a guitar solo: biting full tone, fluid playing, highly melodic, playing over changes (and challenging changes at that), smooth position shifts, no cliches, lovely pedal point work, taking time to make music out of the solo rather than scale-based shredding or mindless noodling.

This is Larry Carlton in an improvised solo on the Steely Dan tune Kid Charlemagne from the Royal Scam album. The solo starts at about 2:18. The outro solo goes a whole different direction and is equally beautiful.

(The video sucks -- I needed to find a version with the original solo, and this is what I could come up with.)

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gocryemokid

02-08-2008, 02:20 PM

I've never done drugs, so Pink Floyd isn't on my top 1000 songs. Blah.

Jimi is my favorite soloist, and the body of his work at such a young age is unbelievable!

Still stuck in that cage huh ? eh you'll break out eventually. Life isn't about holding back it's about exploring what no one else wants you to see.

OldFogey

02-08-2008, 02:27 PM

Cliffs of Dover FTW

Awesome tune -- have you listened to anything from Bloom? That's becoming my favorite EJ album. There's less emphasis on extended soloing, but the songs are the best he's put together. And he experiments with some different sounds that are really cool.

BIAcope

02-08-2008, 05:38 PM

Some Really Really Good Solos That Some May Not Have Heard
Since I've Been Loving You-Led Zeppelin
In The Evening-Led Zeppelin
Travelin' Riverside Blues-Led Zeppelin
Achilles Last Stand-Led Zeppelin
The Ocean-Led Zeppelin
Stairway To Heaven-Led Zeppelin
All Along The Watchtower-Jimi Hendrix
Crossroads-Cream
Hurry Sundown-The Outlaws
Green Grass and High Tides-The Outlaws
Can't You See-The Marshall Tucker Band
Gimme Back My Bullets-Lynyrd Skynyrd
Free Bird-Lynyrd Skynyrd
Highway Song-Blackfoot

VTECsam

02-09-2008, 02:36 PM

A recent favorite of mine can be found on the latest Coheed and Cambria album. I belive the song is called "Gravemakers and Gunslingers" check it out.

Mappy

02-17-2008, 06:17 AM

Anything involving Joe Satriani, Eric Johnson, or Steve Vai. Speed Metal Symphony anyone?
And of course Comfortably Numb.

panama66

02-18-2008, 07:13 PM

Comfortably Numb. I read all the post and agree with what everyone said that picked Comfortably Numb. When I watch a live version of this song, the second right as Gilmour says "I have become comfortably numb" i get goose bumps everytime, cause that solo is so emotionally fitting in that song. There are others from Gilmour, but Comfortably Numb takes the cake. His live versions are longer also. I have to agree with the comment about Waters and Gilmour voice comparisons. THERE ARE NONE. Comfortably Numb is a good song to point that out:) As for "Freebird", that is just annoying, repitition sux. Just sounds like a stinking jam session.

ArsncLacd

02-18-2008, 08:51 PM

Comfortably Numb. No contest.

When you listen to it, it's hard not to think the guitar was specifically made to play that song.

This sums it up perfectly. It's true...it's not the world's fastest, most technical solo by far, but it's something that a lot of solos are not...

BEAUTIFUL

Simply one of the most important pieces of music ever composed, because it truly shows what the electric guitar is capable of. If RB got this song and maybe a couple other Floyd songs, I would almost die of happiness :D

Fivestarfrog

02-18-2008, 11:04 PM

Still stuck in that cage huh ? eh you'll break out eventually. Life isn't about holding back it's about exploring what no one else wants you to see.

Wait a second....since when did you have the authority to inform someone they're in a 'cage' because they've made the choice not to do drugs...?

Anyways, back on topic...most of the 'classic' solos have been mentioned already, so I'm going to recommend listening to Buckethead, particularly the song Soothsayer.

OldFogey

02-19-2008, 12:40 AM

This sums it up perfectly. It's true...it's not the world's fastest, most technical solo by far, but it's something that a lot of solos are not...

BEAUTIFUL

Simply one of the most important pieces of music ever composed, because it truly shows what the electric guitar is capable of. If RB got this song and maybe a couple other Floyd songs, I would almost die of happiness :D

I like that solo, but the changes are very simple, and the actual guitar work not that challenging or hard. There are other beautiful solos that are over much more challenging changes and have much better technique. That's what makes me appreciate the great solos Larry Carlton, Jeff Skunk Baxter and Denny Dias played in Steely Dan, for example.

Check out Bodhisattva. FIrst solo starts at about 1:55. This is Denny Dias.

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sonicnerd23

02-19-2008, 12:42 AM

For me, it'd be the solo in No More Tears. That's beautiful.

Shredder87

02-19-2008, 04:14 AM

For me, it'd be the solo in No More Tears. That's beautiful.
That is an awesome solo. I dig Black Label's version better than Ozzy's.

Freebird-Lynard Skynard
Little Wing-Stevie Ray Vaughan and Double Trouble(Though I wouldn't really classify it as a solo, just a big a** shred)
and my personal favorite
Floods-Pantera *I'm putting this video so you can check it out Fogey!!!!*
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I swear, than man put every ounce of his soul into that solo. That, or he's really inebriated!!!!

OldFogey

02-19-2008, 12:18 PM

That is an awesome solo. I dig Black Label's version better than Ozzy's.

Freebird-Lynard Skynard
Little Wing-Stevie Ray Vaughan and Double Trouble(Though I wouldn't really classify it as a solo, just a big a** shred)
and my personal favorite
Floods-Pantera *I'm putting this video so you can check it out Fogey!!!!*

I swear, than man put every ounce of his soul into that solo. That, or he's really inebriated!!!!

Believe it or not, I do know about Dimebag! One thing I like about his style is the use of arpeggios. I'm just not that big of a metal fan, or I'd listen to a lot more of him.

Hate to break it to you, but I am not a big Freebird fan. I was in a band with some buds in Texas in the early 90's (so now you know where I learned about Dimebag), so we had to play that song. And of course, everybody wanted to hear it like LS played it. I was bored to tears every time we played -- one cliche after another hammered into the ground over and over again. Still haven't cleared GGAHT on expert in RockBand, because I just get tired of the repetition esp. in the 2nd half of the 2nd solo. (And it's harder in the game than on a real guitar.) Hughie Thomasson's solos on that song are much better. Sorry, off on a tangent...

Thanks for the Dimebag clip.

usandthem

02-19-2008, 12:26 PM

Comfortably Numb. No contest.

When you listen to it, it's hard not to think the guitar was specifically made to play that song.

Ditto on this post!!!:D

Shredder87

02-19-2008, 03:29 PM

Believe it or not, I do know about Dimebag! One thing I like about his style is the use of arpeggios. I'm just not that big of a metal fan, or I'd listen to a lot more of him.

Hate to break it to you, but I am not a big Freebird fan. I was in a band with some buds in Texas in the early 90's (so now you know where I learned about Dimebag), so we had to play that song. And of course, everybody wanted to hear it like LS played it. I was bored to tears every time we played -- one cliche after another hammered into the ground over and over again. Still haven't cleared GGAHT on expert in RockBand, because I just get tired of the repetition esp. in the 2nd half of the 2nd solo. (And it's harder in the game than on a real guitar.) Hughie Thomasson's solos on that song are much better. Sorry, off on a tangent...

Thanks for the Dimebag clip.
Yeah it is. I guess it's the collective effort of the band that makes the Freebird solo so epic in my view, and songs are SOOO much easier on guitar than on RB. I was watching my little bro play GGaHT's, and I figured out most of the solo on the spot.

OldFogey

02-19-2008, 03:44 PM

Yeah it is. I guess it's the collective effort of the band that makes the Freebird solo so epic in my view, and songs are SOOO much easier on guitar than on RB. I was watching my little bro play GGaHT's, and I figured out most of the solo on the spot.

I get what you're saying about FreeBird -- yeah the band really takes off, and that's cool. I just wish the solos were more than cliches.

I did the same thing myself with most of GGaHT one day. And actually -- I know I'll get beat up about this -- Highway Star, same thing. Those speed runs are actually pretty simple. But -- they're not so repetitive and not quite so cliched so as music they're much better to me.

Cheers, chum. And thanks again for the Dimebag clip. He was awesome, RIP.

ConF1icTz

02-21-2008, 09:51 AM

Connor Frontera Solo 1977...hands down thank you

fighting69th

02-21-2008, 12:06 PM

I get what you're saying about FreeBird -- yeah the band really takes off, and that's cool. I just wish the solos were more than cliches.

I did the same thing myself with most of GGaHT one day. And actually -- I know I'll get beat up about this -- Highway Star, same thing. Those speed runs are actually pretty simple. But -- they're not so repetitive and not quite so cliched so as music they're much better to me.

Cheers, chum. And thanks again for the Dimebag clip. He was awesome, RIP.

Not my era or interest of music minus a few stand outs but what other guitarist at the time that Deep Purple was popular was playing speedy melodic solos like Blackmore? He was a major shredder in a time where there seemed to be few. Again, I am not saying he was the fastest, best, only one playing like because I don't know of anyone else that early before metal was really metal. Maiden sites DP as a major influence for their melodious guitars, so I think that says something.

OldFogey

02-21-2008, 12:40 PM

Not my era or interest of music minus a few stand outs but what other guitarist at the time that Deep Purple was popular was playing speedy melodic solos like Blackmore? He was a major shredder in a time where there seemed to be few. Again, I am not saying he was the fastest, best, only one playing like because I don't know of anyone else that early before metal was really metal. Maiden sites DP as a major influence for their melodious guitars, so I think that says something.

I wasn't rippin on Blackmore -- just commenting on how things can be harder in the game than they are on a real guitar. Blackmore was definitely transitional to the style of guitar that moved away from mostly pentatonic-based licks to more scale or mode work that enabled faster soloing. That being said, one of the key parts of the Highway Star solo, which involves alternately picking the open high E string and fretting notes, was done by Santana at Woodstock in the Soul Survivor solo.

And there was other stuff happening at the time that was on the fringes of Rock that was influential. One guy everybody was listening to and trying to absorb was John McLaughlin. And sorry but Ritchie is not in John's class as a shredder. Then there was Allan Holdsworth. Jeff Beck was also starting to do some interesting things. I think a lot of the inspiration for the metal shredders actually came from outside Rock -- classical for example. So not to diminish Ritchie's role -- he was definitely distinctive -- but I do think there were a lot of other things going on at the time.

fighting69th

02-21-2008, 07:50 PM

I wasn't rippin on Blackmore -- just commenting on how things can be harder in the game than they are on a real guitar. Blackmore was definitely transitional to the style of guitar that moved away from mostly pentatonic-based licks to more scale or mode work that enabled faster soloing. That being said, one of the key parts of the Highway Star solo, which involves alternately picking the open high E string and fretting notes, was done by Santana at Woodstock in the Soul Survivor solo.

And there was other stuff happening at the time that was on the fringes of Rock that was influential. One guy everybody was listening to and trying to absorb was John McLaughlin. And sorry but Ritchie is not in John's class as a shredder. Then there was Allan Holdsworth. Jeff Beck was also starting to do some interesting things. I think a lot of the inspiration for the metal shredders actually came from outside Rock -- classical for example. So not to diminish Ritchie's role -- he was definitely distinctive -- but I do think there were a lot of other things going on at the time.

I know you weren't baggin on Blackmore, I hope it didn't come across as me taking offense. You mentioned Santana during Woodstock, and I do remember that being a pretty incredible performance. Glad you mentioned some other names for me to check out though, forgot about Jeff Beck ( I know I know but I don't play guitar...mediocre drums are my specialty). As far as Blackmore, my favorite solo of his is Rainbow's "kill the King"...I get chills during that whole song, I mean it was speed metal before there was a term like that.

ZaxX

02-22-2008, 02:35 PM

Jimmy Page

NightMare

02-22-2008, 05:41 PM

Stevie Ray Vaughan- Scuttle Buttin'

Bodabo420

02-22-2008, 05:51 PM

Van Halen Eruption lol

stoneaged92

02-23-2008, 01:58 AM

Van Halen-Eruption
Kirk Hammet-One/Blackened
Marty Friedman-Tornado of Souls/Holy Wars...The Punishment Due
Slash-Paradise City(Ending)
Nuno Bettencourt-Flight of the Wounded Bumblebee

I have a whole list-too lazy to put the whole thing down
Any others to add?

OldClownie

02-24-2008, 02:16 AM

I'm listening to "Sultans of Swing" at the moment. I think it deserves to be included because: firstly, the solo is awesome. . . and secondly, not many guitarists are willing to get fast on a clean sounding guitar. It's hard to the hide the mistakes. It's a guitar solo that people can hum along with. You laid down something pretty non-pretentious if people can sing your guitar solo like it's words to a song.

Oops, looks like a quick search of page one would have let me know that Nilson31 said it first. Credit due.

B.B. needs a mention. I don't have a specific B.B. King example. . . he has a ton of great ones. But, if you can put one note out there and coax everything you need out of it, it can be more impressive than a thousand notes. Having said that. . . there are some guys that do a thousand notes darn well.

Loucifel

02-24-2008, 04:08 PM

Eric Johnson - Cliffs of Dover
Lynyrd Skynyrd - Free Bird
Metallica - One/Fade To Black
Led Zeppelin - Heartbreaker
Living Colour - Cult of Personality
Dire Straits - Sultans of Swing
And, of course
Pink Floyd - Comfortably Numb

gusano311

02-24-2008, 09:00 PM

cult of personality and money talks living colour
jimis star spangled banner
cowyboys from hell pantera
i going home ten years after check it from woodstock 69
good morning lil school girl savoy brown
zack wyldes spolos i find interesting.
satch surfing with the alien

Ultimatum

02-24-2008, 09:06 PM

I can't think of specific solos, but I can name guitarists.

Ron Jarzombek (Watchtower, Ron Jarzombek, Spastic Ink, Blotted Science)
Stevie Ray Vaughn (Strvie Ray Vaughn)
Chuck Schuldiner (Death, Contorl Denied, Voodoocult)
Mattias IA Eklundh (Freak Kitchen, Mattias "IA" Eklundh)
Adam Jones (Tool)
John McLaughlin (Mahavishnu Orchestra, various others)
Jason Gobel and Paul Masvidal (Gordian Knot)
Frank Zappa

KillBox

02-26-2008, 12:24 AM

That being said, one of the key parts of the Highway Star solo, which involves alternately picking the open high E string and fretting notes, was done by Santana at Woodstock in the Soul Survivor solo.

Are you referring to the song Soul Sacrifice performed for the first time at Woodstock by Santana?

OldFogey

02-26-2008, 12:37 AM

Are you referring to the song Soul Sacrifice performed for the first time at Woodstock by Santana?

That would be the one...

I posted the vid on the best drummer's thread because the solo on that song is absolutely classic. But I'll post it again here -- long version with drum solo because I love it.

The lick I'm referring to is at 6:15. I'm not saying it's the same lick -- just the same technique.

KillBox

02-26-2008, 12:45 AM

That would be the one...

I posted the vid on the best drummer's thread because the solo on that song is absolutely classic. But I'll post it again here -- long version with drum solo because I love it.

The lick I'm referring to is at 6:15. I'm not saying it's the same lick -- just the same technique.

here is the real deal...love the soul/energy in santana's guitar work and in the drums

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OldFogey

02-26-2008, 12:50 AM

here is the real deal...love the soul/energy in santana's guitar work and in the drums

Crap I posted the wrong clip, didn't I? Thanks for the correction KillBox. The lick is still at about the 6:15 mark in this vid.

RentedShortbus

02-26-2008, 01:16 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_lwocmL9dQ

Though I do agree with many people that solos aren't all about hitting a millions of notes at a amazingly fast rate ( Pink Floyd Fan Here )... but you gotta admit that Eddie is pretty good.

Rockbandfan23467

02-26-2008, 12:40 PM

OldFogey

02-26-2008, 01:23 PM

Show mey Eruption UNPLUGGED and I'll agree.

You mean like these guys (Bryan Sutton doing most of the picking -- not necessarily his fastest work, just a short sample):

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Or these guys (De Lucia, DiMeola, McLaughlin):
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I agree that speed is not everything -- and detracts from the music when it becomes the focus. But beyond that, not all speed is equal. Going across strings is much harder than three or four notes per string ascending. Picking for a full sound is much harder. Sweep picking for example involves a very light pick of the strings which would not produce the full sound you hear in the playing above -- it's faster but the tone is not as good. Picking is harder than tapping, or hammer ons and pull offs. And Arpeggios basically cannot be played as fast as scale runs (unless you're sweep picking, see above). And finally action matters -- higher action is harder to play fast, as does string weight etc. In general a round, full tone is harder to produce at fast speeds. So pure notes per second or whatever is not the best gauge of speed. Consider the tone first and foremost, and then the actual technique involved -- cross-picking, arpeggios, etc. That's why the bluegrass players are so awesome, why Eric Johnson is much faster than his pure notes per second count would indicate, and so on.

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