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Malison
10-22-2007, 12:13 PM
Comments?
Like?
Dislike?

I wanna hear it!!! *explain why too*

Malison

IErrantVentureI
10-22-2007, 12:17 PM
No. And it's self explanitory.

Rev0lver
10-22-2007, 12:20 PM
manson kicks ass. i mean, hes not the greatest musician ever, but that doesnt mean everything.

no_direction_home
10-22-2007, 12:21 PM
i hate manson his music is so .... well just plain bad

MotleyPriest111
10-22-2007, 12:25 PM
i hate manson his music is so .... well just plain bad

I second that.

travmeatwad
10-22-2007, 12:26 PM
i hate manson his music is so .... well just plain bad

Word. What he said.

Not to mention, he's ****ing creepy.

no_direction_home
10-22-2007, 12:33 PM
Word. What he said.

Not to mention, he's ****ing creepy.

haha exactly

Fallacy
10-22-2007, 12:43 PM
lol. manson is great.

Nestry
10-22-2007, 12:44 PM
scares the crap out of me.
and not a fan of his music in general

so thats a hell no for me

jq71586
10-22-2007, 12:45 PM
I'll take a pass.

Saltines
10-22-2007, 12:45 PM
I'm not a manson fan.
Not in the least.
I just shuddered.

Phobia
10-22-2007, 01:51 PM
to say manson is anything but a genius is an insult to overall human intelligence.

psyborg
10-22-2007, 02:09 PM
One of the best artist of our generation, a true rock & roll god. I'm not at all surprised that alot of people here hate him though.

no_direction_home
10-22-2007, 02:11 PM
to say manson is anything but a genius is an insult to overall human intelligence.

wow saying he is a genius is an insult to our overall human intelligence

no_direction_home
10-22-2007, 02:16 PM
i mean thats like calling tom cruise a genius

psyborg
10-22-2007, 02:17 PM
Says the guy with the Coheed and Cambria avatar;)

Thrashdragon
10-22-2007, 02:17 PM
The Sweet Dreams cover was awesome, and the video was delightfully evil.

Most of the Antichrist Superstar album was really good...great lyrics..."your world is an ashtray" , "I wasn't born with enough middle fingers" , "when I'm God everyone dies".

Lost interest with the next album when their music slowed down and he put on the fake hooters. Haven't heard anything since.

no_direction_home
10-22-2007, 02:20 PM
Says the guy with the Coheed and Cambria avatar;)

claudio sanchez is a good writer what can i say haha

all im saying is maybe the word genius was thrown around kind of loosely in that post

ross_whitten
10-22-2007, 02:20 PM
Meh. Hes not horrible (2 out of five stars)

psyborg
10-22-2007, 02:21 PM
The Sweet Dreams cover was awesome, and the video was delightfully evil.

Most of the Antichrist Superstar album was really good...great lyrics..."your world is an ashtray" , "I wasn't born with enough middle fingers" , "when I'm God everyone dies".

Lost interest with the next album when their music slowed down and he put on the fake hooters. Haven't heard anything since.



Ah the Mechanical Animals (aka Ziggy Stardust nod) era, you might like Holywood and Golden Age, they're more like Antichrist.

For the record though, the newest album is horrible.

no_direction_home
10-22-2007, 02:22 PM
know who was a genius ?.... bob ross that dude could paint amazing pictures in half and hour while on shrooms

psyborg
10-22-2007, 02:33 PM
all im saying is maybe the word genius was thrown around kind of loosely in that post

After standing 5 feet from a stage modelled after the Nazis and watching a man rip up a bible behind a podium during a song called Antichrist Superstar I can honestly say that I feel that Manson is a genius, but I guess different people have different views on what makes a "genius".

no_direction_home
10-22-2007, 02:35 PM
you cant deny that bob ross is a genius though

Simonious
10-22-2007, 02:35 PM
Grade A psyhopath with no musical talent.

The BAD kind of psychopath. Not Serj Tankian kind of psychopath.

psyborg
10-22-2007, 02:37 PM
lol at the media, turning a glam rocker into some kind of psychopath.

no_direction_home
10-22-2007, 02:41 PM
i would hardly call him "glam" poison was glam. manson is like s&m look at me im a douche kinda rocker

psyborg
10-22-2007, 02:43 PM
Poison doesn't have any idea what glam is. That was some bastardized american version of glam, real glam is from late 70s UK rockers, which Manson emulates a bit, mixed with goth I guess.

Simonious
10-22-2007, 02:51 PM
lol at the media, turning a glam rocker into some kind of psychopath.

Media =/= Simonious

icantwaitforrockband
10-22-2007, 03:00 PM
know who was a genius ?.... bob ross that dude could paint amazing pictures in half and hour while on shrooms

I miss him...that show was awesome!




After standing 5 feet from a stage modelled after the Nazis and watching a man rip up a bible behind a podium during a song called Antichrist Superstar I can honestly say that I feel that Manson is a genius, but I guess different people have different views on what makes a "genius".

That is the most F'd up definition of 'genius' I've ever heard. Sinead O'conner did the bible thing years before on NATIONAL TV...ooohh...it's called "trying to shock people".

I have to admit though, I've heard him speak and he sounds like a smart dude, and he knows what he's doing. Everyones been buying into his "I'm so evil" thing for years. I'll give him props for that. I'm just suprised he's not bored of it yet.

I'm into the music much though...maybe some of the earlier stuff.

tucsonovernite
10-22-2007, 03:03 PM
I very much enjoyed Portrait of an American Family and made an effort to drive to Phoenix to check em out supporting that album in 95 i think(clutch was an opening act which was cool I had never heard of em before and I remember Neil wearing a classic white tee.) Anyway I thought that album was great fun and I was very pleased when i saw that show they opened with Wrapped in Plastic which was probably my favorite track off that album...Manson put on a solid show I was pleased. Gotta say I enjoyed most of those songs on that album. Kicking off with the classic willy wonka intro right into cake and sodomy..snake eyes and sissies, my monkey, misery machine with the great sample intto"as christians we've got to take up the armor of christ and go to battle against satan" or something like that....ahh good times but i ramble..

Smells Like Children came off as kinda a letdown (It's real funny I remembe it was the fall of maybe '96 and the Smells Like Children was coming out which I was real excited for as was Life is Peachy-the followup of course to the self titled Korn album I was enjoying at the time AND I think it was AstroCreep 2000 the follow up to La Sexorcisto Devil Music that I really dug at the time...anyway point is all three albums released in like the same month and each time i would walk down to the record store and buy em and wouldn't ya know I found ALL 3 of those albums let downs!)
But yeah Smells Like Childre was kinda sludgy and slow...I guess it was an E.P. my expectations shoulda been tempered...but then..
Didn't really care for Antichrist Superstar--again the individual songs didnt capture my attention as did Portrait. I very much did enjoy the Reflecting God and Man that you Fear and maybe one more....only listened to a few singles after that album I remember enjoying Dont Like the Drugs and one other track...haven't heard anything new in probably 6 years or more now...

But yeah I've got no problems with Manson.

no_direction_home
10-22-2007, 03:09 PM
bob ross FTW!
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tucsonovernite
10-22-2007, 03:09 PM
yeah man just thinking about Astrocreep got the lyric to Thrust off of Devil Music Vol 1 in my head:
"Up from hell a missle to the moon and zero to the three and four and five and yeahhH!H!H baby the night lifes gonna bleeEDD!!!"
or something like that man that album was Sweet!:D

IbanezBassist_v2
10-23-2007, 01:09 AM
Manson has some awesome music, pre Mechanical Animals of course. Holywood was good, but his new stuff just absolutely blows.

DShiz1029
10-23-2007, 01:17 AM
No. Hes an image whore, and his music is terrible. Another reason: Trent Reznor of Nine Inch Nails was Manson's mentor early in Manson's career. Trent Reznor happens to by my favorite musician. As Manson rose to fame he pretty much took in vain all that Reznor had taught him and threw it back in his face, which is uber disrespectful.

howsh_
10-23-2007, 01:21 AM
No. Hes an image whore, and his music is terrible. Another reason: Trent Reznor of Nine Inch Nails was Manson's mentor early in Manson's career. Trent Reznor happens to by my favorite musician. As Manson rose to fame he pretty much took in vain all that Reznor had taught him and threw it back in his face, which is uber disrespectful.

^he pretty much just took what i was going to say.

IbanezBassist_v2
10-23-2007, 01:25 AM
No. Hes an image whore, and his music is terrible. Another reason: Trent Reznor of Nine Inch Nails was Manson's mentor early in Manson's career. Trent Reznor happens to by my favorite musician. As Manson rose to fame he pretty much took in vain all that Reznor had taught him and threw it back in his face, which is uber disrespectful.

Funny. I don't like Reznor in the least little bit. I know MM was a part of NIN, but I hardly see the influence. Their sounds are completely different.

DShiz1029
10-23-2007, 01:28 AM
I dont think Reznor expected Manson to sound the same, but he expected Manson to take his music much more seriously.

IbanezBassist_v2
10-23-2007, 01:34 AM
Eh, what can you say. Like you said. Its all theatrics and a big Christian bashing gimmick. Although his schtick has evolved in to a less radical forte'.

whofan
10-23-2007, 02:08 AM
After standing 5 feet from a stage modelled after the Nazis and watching a man rip up a bible behind a podium during a song called Antichrist Superstar I can honestly say that I feel that Manson is a genius, but I guess different people have different views on what makes a "genius".

So..... by your definition of genius I can go outside, dressed up as Hitler yelling something derogatory about Jewish people and I'm a genius? Wow, what has society come to?

I hate to break it to ya but no definition of genius should include intentionally breeding hate (in this case he's breeding hate not only for Jewish people (the Nazi symbolism, and yes symbolism does mean A LOT), but also Christians (the Bible ripping and the song) and other religions). Music is about Revolution, changing the social norms.

GOOD writers can do that without having to resort to shock tactics and hate.

Think long and hard about your definition of genius.

Manson is good at only one thing, shocking people. That doesn't take a genius to do, I can do it right now if I really wanted to, but I don't stoop to his level.

IbanezBassist_v2
10-23-2007, 02:12 AM
Its been done for years. Alice Cooper, Kiss, Ozzy! Who cares. Its all a ploy to get record sells. It worked for him. So what!

whofan
10-23-2007, 03:19 AM
Its been done for years. Alice Cooper, Kiss, Ozzy! Who cares. Its all a ploy to get record sells. It worked for him. So what!


There's a huge difference between those and Manson. None of those bands listed ever propogated messages of hate. Manson is actively giving out messages of hate on a consistent basis. We aren't talking about a one-time thing here, we're talking consistent messages here.

I prefer not to turn a blind eye to him just because "he's doing it for shock". That's not what's going on here. Whether or not his messages are for shock value or not, it doesn't make it right to be sending those out and saying "It's alright! Manson does it!".

thorn_9
10-23-2007, 03:30 AM
There's a huge difference between those and Manson. None of those bands listed ever propogated messages of hate. Manson is actively giving out messages of hate on a consistent basis. We aren't talking about a one-time thing here, we're talking consistent messages here.

I prefer not to turn a blind eye to him just because "he's doing it for shock". That's not what's going on here. Whether or not his messages are for shock value or not, it doesn't make it right to be sending those out and saying "It's alright! Manson does it!".

As a MM fan This is hilarious. Are you part of the Christian coalition too? conspiracy theories are funny.

Manson has one message, and always has had one message. Be an individual, not a sheep. Hes not a rock god, or even a hero of mine, but the message is solid. He uses imagery that some find uncomfortable, but I personally find it pleasing to the eye.

He is a truly great performer. He puts on a show, not just stands there singing with a plad shirt. He entertains the audience.

If loving who you are for all your faults and not being a slave to the media and a created god is your idea of spreading hate, than ok, I see your point.

Most of his music is about the human condition. Self -actualization, and cultural awareness. You just have to get over your fear of his appearance to see it.

The_Future_Breed
10-23-2007, 03:33 AM
I support Manson's right to free speech, and some of his earlier stuff was decent musically. Ever since 'Mechanical Animals' dropped he's steadily been sliding downhill, though, and he's more popular now than ever, which makes me go 'wtf'.

Calling him a musical genius is laughable. He will never be on the same level as Jim Morrison, Robert Plant, John Lennon, and Pete Townshend. Ever. If you think Manson surpasses even one of these men in songwriting talent, you don't know musical genius when you see (hear?) it.

whofan
10-23-2007, 03:35 AM
I am none of the things you listed and, in fact, most Christian Coalitions would find me deplorable (After all, I listen to the "satanic" (WTF?) music of Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Alice Cooper and Ozzy Osbourne).

What I am pointing out here is what is percievable from his music and shows. It's not about images I'm uncomfortable with, it's about images that are there. He is spreading messages of hate.

For example, justify to me his use of Nazi symbolism. Do not compare this to Alice Cooper's decapitation at the end of their early shows or the fire used by Kiss, it is nowhere near the same thing. The symbolism being used here has VERY clear implications and is being used for a purpose beyond mere shock value

thorn_9
10-23-2007, 03:38 AM
I am none of the things you listed and, in fact, most Christian Coalitions would find me deplorable (After all, I listen to the "satanic" (WTF?) music of Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Alice Cooper and Ozzy Osbourne).

What I am pointing out here is what is percievable from his music and shows. It's not about images I'm uncomfortable with, it's about images that are there. He is spreading messages of hate.

Can you be specific? What hate message is he spreading?

whofan
10-23-2007, 03:42 AM
Can you be specific? What hate message is he spreading?


Did you read my previous posts?

The Nazi symbolism and Bible ripping are apparent enough I believe

FallenAce
10-23-2007, 03:44 AM
Sinead O'conner did the bible thing years before on NATIONAL TV...ooohh...it's called "trying to shock people".

Sinead O'Connor ripped up a picture of Pope John Paul II and exclaimed, "Fight the REAL enemy!"

Don't forget: she's Irish and the Catholic/Protestant situation in Ireland was tumultuous at the time, at best. It was not for shock value; she was voicing her opinion about who is wrong in that situation. She was being all rebellious against Catholicism.

Strangely enough, she started following some weirdo Bishop, who ordained her later. Of course, the Vatican doesn't recognize that, and also does not allow for female priests.

thorn_9
10-23-2007, 06:23 AM
Did you read my previous posts?

The Nazi symbolism and Bible ripping are apparent enough I believe

Uh, I fail to see how that is spreading hate. He doesn't push a nazi agenda. Never has. Bowie wore nazi uniforms for a while too, got a lot of flack for it too, but its just aesthetics, not agenda promotion.

The Bible tearing isn't agenda oriented either, its simply his way of visually reinforcing the idea of breaking down what holds you down. Tearing apart what teaches bias, bigotry and hate.

So if anything its promoting anti-hate.

I can see how you would think otherwise though.

tucsonovernite
10-23-2007, 07:16 AM
[QUOTE=whofan;87778]Manson is actively giving out messages of hate on a consistent basis......
QUOTE]

It's funny you mention that I actually picked up the tee at that Manson concert i saw way back when: on the front neon green "devil horns" on the back "we hate love we love hate" ahhhh good times......oh and Thorn really hit the nail on the head with his analysis imo...of course all I have to go by are the releases from 94-97 (the albums I listened to) and theres obviously some anti authoriatian attitude goin on there but yeah mostly rallying against organized religion, group think, conservative morality, that kinda stuff....but he made it entertaining by wrapping it up in some macarbe imagery which probably doesnt hurt if you're trying to influence the under 21 crowd...seemed like good fun to me

battle_axe_of_doom
10-23-2007, 07:18 AM
how the **** did this worthless hack get a five page thread?? horrible horrible "musician"

Akaymay
10-23-2007, 10:24 AM
He RUINED a cover of Highway to Hell...that's more than enough for a reason to hate him...

Also, what everyone else said....****ing creeping...

GrenadeJumper
10-23-2007, 10:35 AM
Come on guys.... Whats not to like?

http://www.elalmacendelrock.com/images/MarilynMansonPromo.jpg

I mean, he actually looks like a good guy!

no_direction_home
10-23-2007, 12:44 PM
he looks like an emo kid that got thrown in a huge blender

A_Perfect_TOOL
10-23-2007, 12:54 PM
I respect him for being creative and a really intelligent guy, but I really don't dig his music anymore. He was bad ass before he started hitting the Absinthe too hard and trying to be the next Bowie. I still like his first few albums, but Mechanical Animals is kinda like his 'Black Album', while its actually a really good album, its when he changed for the worse.

The_Future_Breed
10-23-2007, 12:58 PM
how the **** did this worthless hack get a five page thread?? horrible horrible "musician"

You've got a way with words.

Murderous_Urges
10-23-2007, 12:59 PM
His music isn't all that good but I still like it. I think he is one of the most misunderstood and greatest minds on this place. He's not all that creepy most people say I'm as creepy as him all because of how i dress or what i listen to. Because this world it's people are so ignorant for anything that isn't in the "whats in whats out" because they have tried to fit in so much they forgot who they really were, and that just why i think that people don't get him. Thats just what i think though.

SmokaCola
10-23-2007, 01:39 PM
Manson is ok, the whole wanting to have boobs and **** thing was a bit ******ed. Most of his songs are covers of other peoples anyway so he's not really original.

battle_axe_of_doom
10-23-2007, 02:52 PM
just cuz most of his singles are covers doesn't mean most of his songs aren't original

icantwaitforrockband
10-23-2007, 03:04 PM
just cuz most of his singles are covers doesn't mean most of his songs aren't original

no...but that is where most of his fame comes from.

battle_axe_of_doom
10-23-2007, 03:55 PM
yeah but smoka wasn't talking about fame. he said and i quote "most of his songs are covers ...anyway" which isn't true. just a little correction that i felt needed to be made despite my immense hatred for this piece of **** "artist"

Amy329
10-23-2007, 04:06 PM
Manson is trash. I have no respect for his music at all.

Malison
10-23-2007, 11:49 PM
Manson isn't something that you should listen to without an open mind. You have to see through his symbolism to actually understand him.

I'm a big time old manson fan, but I dont really like his new ablum. >.>

thorn_9
10-24-2007, 12:16 AM
I actually really liked his new album. It was much more 'rock' than his previous albums, and has a feel akin to the mid to late 90's metal bands.

I think his best was def. Antichrist Superstar with Holywood a close second. Even still, I am def gonna see his movie Phantasmagoria when it's released. Anything visually that comes from him is just as bad ass as Rob Zombie of not more so. And Zombies movies owned.

I can understand how people react,and why most hate him. He doesn't cater to the masses, and he takes a lot of flack for it. But what true artist does?

IbanezBassist_v2
10-24-2007, 12:24 AM
yeah but smoka wasn't talking about fame. he said and i quote "most of his songs are covers ...anyway" which isn't true. just a little correction that i felt needed to be made despite my immense hatred for this piece of **** "artist"

For someone that hates him so much, you sure know alot about him. Let me guess. One night you were walking home from one of his concerts, he saw you. Had his limo driver pull over, picked you up. Served you up some cake and sodomy. Afterwards you went crying home like the whiny ***** you are and the rest is history....

No wonder you are so anal! Oh yeah! :cool:

IbanezBassist_v2
10-24-2007, 12:24 AM
Manson is trash. I have no respect for his music at all.

But you listen to Slayer. Don't make me laugh little girl!

Malison
10-24-2007, 12:31 AM
For someone that hates him so much, you sure know alot about him. Let me guess. One night you were walking home from one of his concerts, he saw you. Had his limo driver pull over, picked you up. Served you up some cake and sodomy. Afterwards you went crying home like the whiny ***** you are and the rest is history....

No wonder you are so anal! Oh yeah! :cool:

lmfao!!!!!!


But you listen to Slayer. Don't make me laugh little girl!

>.> Slayer is terrible

IbanezBassist_v2
10-24-2007, 12:40 AM
lmfao!!!!!!



>.> Slayer is terrible

Well. I don't really think I can agree with that, but I'd rather listen to Manson than Slayer. But I will listen to Slayer as well.

newwaytodie
10-24-2007, 03:02 AM
Interesting guy, but his music sucks.

battle_axe_of_doom
10-24-2007, 03:30 AM
For someone that hates him so much, you sure know alot about him. Let me guess. One night you were walking home from one of his concerts, he saw you. Had his limo driver pull over, picked you up. Served you up some cake and sodomy. Afterwards you went crying home like the whiny ***** you are and the rest is history....

No wonder you are so anal! Oh yeah! :cool:

yawn i guess it never dawned on your idiotic mind that in order to hate something you have to know it first. i'm not saying i was a fan of the guy because i never was but you can't just hate a band/someone without getting to know it first. but of course you're such a tool you'll never understand that

besides all i said was that the majority of his singles are covers. anyone who listened to the radio would know that, and a quick look at his albums on wiki would confirm that most of his songs aren't covers either. i don't know much about the guy except his music sucks, he's a david bowie wannabe putting on an act to get a gothy fanbase, and a ****ty "musician"

IbanezBassist_v2
10-24-2007, 05:09 AM
Ooo! You sure got me there. How would I ever comeback from such a awesome display of moronic prowess. :rolleyes:

Its nice to know someone so educated as yourself gets his info from such a reliable source as Wiki. LMFAO

Kutsic
10-24-2007, 10:54 AM
I like Manson. He's not my favorite or anything, but I think he's definitely a talented artist.

I respect his views on things (he's a pretty damn smart guy), and, even if he's never really made an album that blew me away, I've enjoyed all his releases and each one has been very different than the last.

I think his new cd is probably the best thing he's ever done in his career.

As for the people that say he's scary/crazy/creepy/weird....you make me laugh. :)

JackBNimble
10-24-2007, 11:58 AM
No NO NO NO Marily Manson is nothing more then a twisted transexual freak with a very bad taste in music!!!

Kutsic
10-24-2007, 12:14 PM
buahaha he's got a pretty hot girlfriend for being a "transexual"

battle_axe_of_doom
10-24-2007, 12:15 PM
he's had plenty of hot girlfriends even during his "freakier" years. i mean jennifer love hewitt and that broad in planet terror dear lord (i only know this cuz as a kid i was obsessed with both of those broads and my sister told me that he ****ed both of them :o)

JackBNimble
10-24-2007, 12:17 PM
buahaha he's got a pretty hot girlfriend for being a "transexual"

Are you sure his girlfriend isn't one aswell?

Kutsic
10-24-2007, 02:57 PM
She's a damn good looking transexual then.

Honestly, Manson's no weirder than Alice Cooper. Anyone freaked out by Alice Cooper?

Thrashdragon
10-24-2007, 11:45 PM
Anyone freaked out by Alice Cooper?

Yes, but only because he occasionally has a weird patch of facial hair right under his eye.

IbanezBassist_v2
10-25-2007, 12:02 AM
Yes, but only because he occasionally has a weird patch of facial hair right under his eye.

What? You mean you don't have one of those! I thought all men had one! :cool:

Kutsic
10-25-2007, 12:51 AM
Haha ok...so maybe Alice Cooper is freakier than Manson

Thrashdragon
10-25-2007, 01:08 AM
What? You mean you don't have one of those! I thought all men had one! :cool:

Well of course I do...but I braid mine and loop it behind my ear, not leave it hanging down my face...

:D

IbanezBassist_v2
10-25-2007, 01:10 AM
Ah yes! The looped-dee braid!

tucsonovernite
10-25-2007, 02:07 AM
Manson is the God Of Fuuck and not just anyone can claim that...

IbanezBassist_v2
10-25-2007, 02:10 AM
Yes. This is true. Strangely, I love that song.

Transbrak
10-25-2007, 05:50 PM
if youve ever watched an interview with him his intelligence will suprise you, allthough not my favorite artist of all time antichrist superstar is pretty high on my favorite albums list, recently he seems to be straying from heavier music or maybe I should say grittier music and its almost Got a pop quality that I don't care for

Malison
10-26-2007, 10:37 AM
true. like i said. he kinda lost his MM aspect with his new music. it's still unique but it's poppier than any of his other music which is strange for him (is poppier a word???)

no_direction_home
10-26-2007, 12:28 PM
(is poppier a word???)

it is now :D

newwaytodie
10-26-2007, 11:25 PM
What I find hilarious is that Manson is absolutely hated on this forum, while Trent Reznor is worshipped as a god.

Kutsic
10-27-2007, 06:03 AM
For anyone's that seen it, in 30 Days of Night, did anyone else think that one vampire near the end looks scarily similar to Manson?

DShiz1029
10-27-2007, 06:27 AM
I thought it was Manson. That movie wasnt bad. I thought it was going to be ******ed, but it was decent. But yeah, damn that Manson vampire.

Heres the link to a picture.
http://imdb.com/gallery/ss/0389722/Ss/0389722/18.jpg?path=gallery&path_key=0389722

Kutsic
10-27-2007, 06:30 AM
I think it might have been him. I can't find anything to prove it tho.

I LOVED that movie. Vampires are like my favorite thing EVER.

senomar
10-27-2007, 01:47 PM
I thought it was Manson. That movie wasnt bad. I thought it was going to be ******ed, but it was decent. But yeah, damn that Manson vampire.

Heres the link to a picture.
http://imdb.com/gallery/ss/0389722/Ss/0389722/18.jpg?path=gallery&path_key=0389722
:eek:

Marilyn the Vampire.

DShiz1029
10-27-2007, 06:10 PM
I think it might have been him. I can't find anything to prove it tho.

I LOVED that movie. Vampires are like my favorite thing EVER.

The actor who played that vampire is John Rawls, not Brian Warner unfortunately :(

Anyone see Ghost of Mars? As crappy as that movie was, the main monster looked like a buff Manson.

IbanezBassist_v2
10-29-2007, 07:48 AM
I have a relative that looks like MM. She gets mad when I tell her that!

Malison
10-30-2007, 12:28 AM
I have a relative that looks like MM. She gets mad when I tell her that!

LMFAO!!!!!!

That_One_Dude
11-09-2007, 03:12 AM
So..... by your definition of genius I can go outside, dressed up as Hitler yelling something derogatory about Jewish people and I'm a genius? Wow, what has society come to?

I hate to break it to ya but no definition of genius should include intentionally breeding hate (in this case he's breeding hate not only for Jewish people (the Nazi symbolism, and yes symbolism does mean A LOT), but also Christians (the Bible ripping and the song) and other religions). Music is about Revolution, changing the social norms.

GOOD writers can do that without having to resort to shock tactics and hate.

Think long and hard about your definition of genius.

Manson is good at only one thing, shocking people. That doesn't take a genius to do, I can do it right now if I really wanted to, but I don't stoop to his level.

Stupid people are the reason why he pulls these "stunts." You might be able to shock people, but there's no way you could make music out if it and still make it entertaining. It's all satirical, the Nazi imagery has nothing to do with actual Nazis. He has no hate for Jewish people, just ignorant ones.

And you know, he really has nothing against Christians either. He loves his Christian parents and has Christian values (He did get married). He only spreads hate for ignorant people, which a lot of Christian people happen to be.

thrdeye
11-09-2007, 03:22 AM
Didn't read the entire thread, but I don't know how you can't like Portrait and Antichrist unless you plain just don't like rock.

Eastwood
11-09-2007, 03:29 AM
I have one huge complaint with him. He has a steady band. He doesn't "lease" band members like some solo artists do. Where is the damn recognition for those guys? Why is it all about that jizz guzzler? When are the axemen going to get their due?

IbanezBassist_v2
11-09-2007, 05:27 AM
Johnny Five and Twiggy have gotten lots of recognition. Ginger Fish as well has gotten some notice with his awesome drumming skills.

Eastwood
11-09-2007, 05:32 AM
These names don't ring any bells for me. If that is the case, though, how much air time do they get in music videos?

IbanezBassist_v2
11-09-2007, 05:34 AM
Twiggy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twiggy_Ramirez) made quite a bite of airtime in alot of Mansons videos. Not any of his newer stuff because Twiggy now plays with APC (A Perfect Circle). I think John 5 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lowery) is doing his own thing now as well.

Eastwood
11-09-2007, 05:36 AM
As long as they get theirs. I hate it when lead singers get all the glory!

IbanezBassist_v2
11-09-2007, 05:41 AM
Well... Yeah. But they've played with many other big names as well. I'm suprised you've never heard of them.

Eastwood
11-09-2007, 05:47 AM
I think I remember Twiggy, but only because of APC... I've seen John 5 referenced in places, but I wouldn't be like "oh, yeah, they played for manson" if I heard the name... Guess I will now, though

DShiz1029
11-09-2007, 07:28 AM
Twiggy, er, Jeordie White was in Nine Inch Nails for With Teeth and Year Zero.

King_Toki
11-09-2007, 02:05 PM
Manson = Fail

IbanezBassist_v2
11-10-2007, 04:39 AM
Toki = Fail. You'll get your ass spanked here Toki. Watch.

DShiz1029
11-10-2007, 06:40 AM
Ibanez=pass :D had to. But I still dont care for Manson.

Transbrak
11-10-2007, 05:23 PM
i believe john 5 got kicked out because marilyn didnt like him writing songs for avril lavigne or some other pop chick like that

Transbrak
11-10-2007, 05:24 PM
Manson = Fail

what a creative post thanks for your thoughful reply and input to the discussion

Eman311
11-10-2007, 05:56 PM
no thanks on the manson. don't absolutely despise him, just not a fan.

ZeroSka
11-10-2007, 06:03 PM
I'm not a fan of Marilyn Manson. I listened to a few songs a few months back, and I wasn't impressed. They all sounded the same. In fact, I just got the LE Soundtrack of Nightmare Before Christmas and his cover of "This is Halloween" was alright.

That_One_Dude
11-10-2007, 06:29 PM
Twiggy is responsible for the bass line you hear in The Beautiful People and is in almost every other Manson video that became a hit.

John-5 plays with Rob Zombie, now, but he has his own thing going on to which sounds amazing I might add.

Here's a sample:

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Eastwood
11-11-2007, 02:24 AM
I'd rather listen to Manson than Nickleback...

But then again, I'd rather listen to Hannah Montana than Nickleback..

Malison
12-07-2007, 08:19 AM
I'm not a fan of Marilyn Manson. I listened to a few songs a few months back, and I wasn't impressed. They all sounded the same. In fact, I just got the LE Soundtrack of Nightmare Before Christmas and his cover of "This is Halloween" was alright.

Hmmm, I thought that was manson's song... might be wrong tho, not sure.

Fortheloveofgod
12-07-2007, 08:40 AM
Manson!!!!!!!

abasketfullofpuppies
12-18-2007, 10:17 AM
manson is...wierd. thats about it. manson just does what bands have been doing since the begining of rock... scare people. manson simply does it in a different way. any time he does something it is to grab your attention. and as we can see form this thread he pretty good at it.

hobbesdream
01-15-2008, 12:20 AM
i'm for Manson

all the way
ftw!

:D

JoeChitarra
01-15-2008, 11:59 AM
I think Manson is kinda artist i saw him live 3 times and he was really amazing. He is Reznors NIN son even if now, specially with the last album, he is loosing his style being too commercial...