The Big Four of Thrash vs. The Big Four of Grunge

[Rockbandfan23467]

Who wins?

Metallica, Megadeth, Anthrax, and either Slayer or Testement, depending on who you ask.

VS.

Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, and Alice In Chains.

[xX51NN3RXx]

Thrash owns all.

Nirvana is VERY overrated.

[Rockbandfan23467]

^So is Metallica.

[xX51NN3RXx]

Yes, but I didn't vote Thrash because Metallica was included, but because of all 4/5 of those bands.

[orange_black]

I didnt know soundgarden was grunge.

but as the other poster stated.... thrash wins.

:)

[JukeBoxHero]

This is a tough decision, Anthrax, or Soundgardern? Dang it, I can't place a vote.

[OldFogey]

No surprises from me -- Grunge I like, Metal I never got back into.

[orange_black]

i just realized lol....

not only is thrash the better music....

if you put all the band members together... the thrash dudes would totally beat down the grunge dudes like a red-headed step child.

:)

[OldFogey]

i just realized lol....

not only is thrash the better music....

if you put all the band members together... the thrash dudes would totally beat down the grunge dudes like a red-headed step child.

:)

Ah but what if we gave them math tests??? :D

Actually forget it -- I'll take Queen (Brian May), Boston (Tom Scholz) and Offspring (Dexter Holland) against any other combo I can think of in a math contest. :cool:

[AxlVanHagar]

I hated the grunge movement so the thrashers get my vote by default.

[Rockbandfan23467]

Grunge is winning! I didn't expect that!

[FourstringOrion]

I voted Thrash be cause ALL of those(exept Slayer) are my favorites. And i hate most grunge lol(Nirvana and Metallica are overated, but Metallica are overated in a good way)

[Runesmith]

Grunge. I like thrash, but I enjoy the songwriting and lyrics of most grunge bands more.

[JerryBrudos]

thrash no contest

[rockfresh126]

Grunge wins easy. I like most the thrash bands of the thrash bands but Anthrax/testament are terrible. In the end, the grunge bands may not have been able to play as fast, but they were better musicians and could write more diverse music than the thrash bands could (see LOAD era, late 90s/early 2000s megadeth)

[partyboydanial]

ill go with Grunge because i only like Metallica in Thrash

and i love Nirvana, like Pearl Jam, and i dont mind Soundgarden and Alice In Chains

with grunge though Smashing Pumpkins should be added on and i love them more then any other bands.

[Jack_T]

i dont consider metallica thrash.

i dont consider pearl jam grunge.

after kicking those bands out of my decision making. you left me with a difficult choice. i took grunge but next time you should pick something people will tend not to be a fan of both. ...an example emo vs metal or punk vs classic rock or grunge vs glam. all three of those are on completely different spectrums of each other.

emo is whiny and well emotional i guess metal is deep voiced and violent.

punk is talentless abrasive and strangely dressed and classic rock is ... classic talented and very well known and respected.

grunge is dirty distorted and unkempt while glam is vocal gold and dressed in and groomed in a... i cant think of a word... stand out way?

anyway you probably get my point.

[polishdog90]

i dont consider metallica thrash.

i dont consider pearl jam grunge.

after kicking those bands out of my decision making. you left me with a difficult choice. i took grunge but next time you should pick something people will tend not to be a fan of both. ...an example emo vs metal or punk vs classic rock or grunge vs glam. all three of those are on completely different spectrums of each other.

emo is whiny and well emotional i guess metal is deep voiced and violent.

punk is talentless abrasive and strangely dressed and classic rock is ... classic talented and very well known and respected.

grunge is dirty distorted and unkempt while glam is vocal gold and dressed in and groomed in a... i cant think of a word... stand out way?

anyway you probably get my point.

I think he picked this because both genres had a "big 4"


I picked grunge. Right now I probably like both big 4s equally, but grunge got me into music so I have to pick it for that. If my friend hadn't showed me Nirvana in 5th grade I would probably be listening to nothing but pop and rap right now.

Right now for me it goes like this Metallica>Nirvana>Alice in Chains>Anthrax>Megadeth>Soundgarden>Pearl Jam>Slayer

[Runesmith]

i dont consider metallica thrash.

i dont consider pearl jam grunge.

after kicking those bands out of my decision making. you left me with a difficult choice. i took grunge but next time you should pick something people will tend not to be a fan of both. ...an example emo vs metal or punk vs classic rock or grunge vs glam. all three of those are on completely different spectrums of each other.

emo is whiny and well emotional i guess metal is deep voiced and violent.

punk is talentless abrasive and strangely dressed and classic rock is ... classic talented and very well known and respected.

grunge is dirty distorted and unkempt while glam is vocal gold and dressed in and groomed in a... i cant think of a word... stand out way?

anyway you probably get my point.

I'm going to have to disagree with that statement. Black Flag, Dead Kennedys, Bad Brains, The Jam, and The Damned (I could go on and on) have some of the most talented musicians I have ever seen. I agree with your overall point, though. I'd like to see how well punk would stack up against hard rock or prog, or metal against emo.

[Rockbandfan23467]

I think he picked this because both genres had a "big 4"


Right now for me it goes like this Metallica>Nirvana>Alice in Chains>Anthrax>Megadeth>Soundgarden>Pearl Jam>Slayer

Yes, I did.

What about Testement?

[polishdog90]

Yes, I did.

What about Testement?

I don't consider Testament a part of the big four but if I did they would be at the very end. Testament is the one band out of all of those that I've never really gotten into. I wouldn't mind seeing them live, but I wouldn't buy their cd.

[Shredder87]

i just realized lol....

not only is thrash the better music....

if you put all the band members together... the thrash dudes would totally beat down the grunge dudes like a red-headed step child.

:)
I dunno man. The only man that I'm scared of is Dave, and that's cuz I know he has a black belt. Look at Chris Cornell with his hair. I wouldn't mess with him, or Sean Kinney. He reminds me of Fabio.......Oh wait, Slayer and Testament(YEAH!!!!! FINALLY!!!!!) are involved. Nvm. Total thrash ownage.

Having said that, I go with thrash. I love Alice In Chains and Soundgarden, but I love Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, and Testament!!!!!!

[pancakekid96@yahoo.com]

Grunge is better. Jeremy, Even Flow, Daughter, Black, Courduroy, and Alive (Pearl Jam), Heart-Shaped Box, In Bloom, Smells like Teen Spirit, Dumb (Nirvana), and Black Hole Sun( Soundgarden) defeats thrash. But under Thrash, were's Slipknot and Disturbed?

[Shredder87]

Grunge is better. Jeremy, Even Flow, Daughter, Black, Courduroy, and Alive (Pearl Jam), Heart-Shaped Box, In Bloom, Smells like Teen Spirit, Dumb (Nirvana), and Black Hole Sun( Soundgarden) defeats thrash. But under Thrash, were's Slipknot and Disturbed?
Ahem........


Megadeth-Looking Down The Cross, Mechanix, Peace Sells, Wake Up Dead, My Last Words, Unto The Lungs Of Hell, In My Darkest Hour, Hangar 18, Holy Wars, Tornado Of Souls, Ashes In Your Mouth, Countdown To Extinction.

Metallica-The FourHorsemen, Whiplash, Jump In The Fire, Phantom Lord, Seek And Destroy, Ride The Lighting, For Whom The Bell Tolls, Fade To Black, Call Of Ktulu, Battery, Master Of Puppets, Sanitarium, Orion, Blackened, One, The Shortest Straw, Harvester Of Sorror, To Live Is To Die, Dyer's Eve.

Slayer-Captor Of Sin, The Anti-Christ, Chemical Warfare, Black Magic, Hardening Of The Arteries, Hell Awaits, Raining Blood, Angel Of Death, Post Mortem, Jesus Saves, South Of Heaven, Spill The Blood, Seasons In The Abyss, War Ensemble, Dittohead, God Send Death, Disciple.

Testament-Over The Wall, First Strike Still Deadly, Burnt Offerings, The Preacher, Trial By Fire, Practice What You Preach, Into The Pit!!!!!, The Legacy, Return To Serenity, Trail Of Tears.

I'm sorry I had to.

Dude, Slipknot and Disturbed are in a different genre. Nowhere near Thrash.

[fighting69th]

I think it's funny that Anthrax is always the top 4 of the Thrash movement and yet their most popular songs are all covers. Bring The Noise (Public Enemy), Anti-Social (Trust), and Got The Time (Joe Jackson). Also, didnt Soundgarden and Alice In Chains have more of a metal thing going when they came out? Geography made them Grunge?

[KillerIsMe]

I find Grunge-musicians way better and more diverse than Thrash-musicians. Thrash is just fastfastfast, while Grunge is aestetics, atleast that's how I feel when I listen to it. And AIC and Pearl Jam owns every Thrashband. Therefor, Grunge get's my vote.

Strangly enough, I'm a Metalhead, so logical thinking would make me chose Thrash. But logical thinking sucks :p

[orange_black]

But under Thrash, were's Slipknot and Disturbed?

hahahaha he said "slipknot and disturbed"

XD

lol

[orange_black]

I dunno man. The only man that I'm scared of is Dave, and that's cuz I know he has a black belt. Look at Chris Cornell with his hair. I wouldn't mess with him, or Sean Kinney. He reminds me of Fabio.......Oh wait, Slayer and Testament(YEAH!!!!! FINALLY!!!!!) are involved. Nvm. Total thrash ownage.

Having said that, I go with thrash. I love Alice In Chains and Soundgarden, but I love Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, and Testament!!!!!!

i guess i was picturing a pissed off Scott Ian kicking ass on a sweater-wearing Cobain

XD

[orange_black]

I think it's funny that Anthrax is always the top 4 of the Thrash movement and yet their most popular songs are all covers. Bring The Noise (Public Enemy), Anti-Social (Trust), and Got The Time (Joe Jackson). Also, didnt Soundgarden and Alice In Chains have more of a metal thing going when they came out? Geography made them Grunge?

er..............

Among The Living made them Thrash Legends.

One of the great thrash albums of all time.

I agree with your second take though.... i never considered Alice in Chains or Soundgarden to be grunge. They were both hard rock to my ears.

:)

[orange_black]

I find Grunge-musicians way better and more diverse than Thrash-musicians. Thrash is just fastfastfast, while Grunge is aestetics


coudlnt disagree more. Thats one of the reasons i fell in love with thrash metal and most heavy metal for that matter.

The musicianship owns most other musical genres unless you start getting intot he really technically demanding stuff... ala ... progressive, jazz and classical.

:)

just cuz its loud and fast and hurts your ears doesnt necessarily mean they're musicianship sucks.

[Hastyl3]

Grunge is better. Jeremy, Even Flow, Daughter, Black, Courduroy, and Alive (Pearl Jam), Heart-Shaped Box, In Bloom, Smells like Teen Spirit, Dumb (Nirvana), and Black Hole Sun( Soundgarden) defeats thrash. But under Thrash, were's Slipknot and Disturbed?

*FACEPALM* x9001

Slipknot and Disturbed are Nu-Metal!!!

Eheeem....


My Last Words, Peace Sells... But Who's Buying, Holy Wars... The Punishment Due, Rust In Peace... Polaris, Symphony Of Destruction, Countdown To Extinction( Megadeth), Seek And Destroy, Metal Militia, Ride The Lightning, Fade To Black, , Master Of Puppets, Welcome Home(Sanitarium)(Metallica), Raining Blood, Angel Of Death, Seasons In The Abyss, Disciple, Expendable Youth(Slayer) demolish Grunge(Sorry, I just hate Anthrax).

[orange_black]

My Last Words, Peace Sells... But Who's Buying, Holy Wars... The Punishment Due, Rust In Peace... Polaris, Symphony Of Destruction, Countdown To Extinction( Megadeth), Seek And Destroy, Metal Militia, Ride The Lightning, Fade To Black, , Master Of Puppets, Welcome Home(Sanitarium)(Metallica), Raining Blood, Angel Of Death, Seasons In The Abyss, Disciple, Expendable Youth(Slayer) demolish Grunge (Sorry, I just hate Anthrax).

AWWWWWWWWWWWWW you were doing so good too.

:)

[Rockbandfan23467]

Grunge wins? Strange...

[orange_black]

Grunge wins? Strange...

I think it speaks volumes of the age group on these forums.

lol

[Rockbandfan23467]

Or mabye because Nirvana were nice and Metallica was,is, and always will be ass-holes.

[zDisturbedOnez]

Thrash wins by default due to staying power. They came first and are still putting out music. AIC, and Nirvana have no front man, Soundgarden is no more, and Pearl Jam (hmmmm is Eddie Veder still making music? So thrash for the win!

[Hungryfreak]

Thrash. Hell, if it was just Megadeth vs. the grunge 4, then the former would still get my vote, haha.

[Rockbandfan23467]

^What if it was Metallica, Anthrax, or Slayer (or Testement, depending on who you ask) alone vs. The Grunge 4?

[Hungryfreak]

Megadeth was definite. For the rest, it really depends. Metallica would win easy if we could wipe the past 17 years of suck away from our memories. I'm not so sure about Anthrax. Slayer and Testament would win, but it would be a bit closer.

[Chief Stubbs]

I don't get the big hype over Nirvana. They sound pretty stock to me.

[fighting69th]

I don't get the big hype over Nirvana. They sound pretty stock to me.

Couldn't agree more. Apparently staying power (Thrash) loses out to MTV trends(Grunge)

[Shredder87]

Couldn't agree more. Apparently staying power (Thrash) loses out to MTV trends(Grunge)
There was nothing trendy about the "Grunge" movement. They just happen to be on the right place at the right time making the right music. None of those bands wanted to become the trend.

[SteveoKnievo]

i just realized lol....

not only is thrash the better music....

if you put all the band members together... the thrash dudes would totally beat down the grunge dudes like a red-headed step child.

:)

That's a really good idea, I think all the battle of the bands stuff should have an actual fight involved as well as their music. I think Just Slayer and Anthrax could take all the grunge guys ;)
But regardless i think that Pearl Jam is one of the best bands around.

[zDisturbedOnez]

That's a really good idea, I think all the battle of the bands stuff should have an actual fight involved as well as their music. I think Just Slayer and Anthrax could take all the grunge guys ;)
But regardless i think that Pearl Jam is one of the best bands around.


Might be a toss up with Scott Ian vs Jerry Cantrell though. Cantrell has the reach advantage but those little guys are wirey little firecrackers.

[TheCheckeredDemon]

Nirvana is THE most overrated band I've ever heard. I KNOW they wouldn't be famous if Kurt Cobain wasn't an hero to everyone.

At least Metallica had a good album or 2.

[Rockbandfan23467]

U2 and is more overrated than Nirvana.

[back_blows]

Pretty sure Kerry King would clean house if there was a brawl. But he probably would end up fighting Dave Mustaine instead of any of the grunge bands.

[Beezie]

I think Dave is a kick boxer, right? Kerry would get the beat down unless he was using his spikey arm band thingy.

[WhiffleBallTony]

Grunge. The only big 4 thrash band I listen to (I won't say like since I haven't heard all 4) is Metallica.

[rickjames284]

Grunge, I hate slayer and anthrax.

[Alright_Computer]

Grunge wins for me. I just like the music more.

[frizzy_bj]

Well....

This poll put me in a terrible position...lol.

I love all the bands listed above BUT I picked the grunge setlist.

:)

[TheCrimsonSaint]

The big four of thrash win for me solely because of Metallica's strength in every genre. Grunge just never really flowed with me, and though IMHO Chris Cornell is one of the greatest vocalists of our time, that can't save the grunge foursome from Nirvana (overrated) and Alice in Chains (just don't like 'em). As for the Founding Four, I hate Slayer and Anthrax, but I love Megadave (minus Risk) and I feel like Metallica just can't make a bad album, no matter what genre they try to put out. And just for good measure, my St. Anger themed flame-resistant suit is on.

[Rockbandfan23467]

Mabye I should do a "Dirt vs. Superunknown vs. Ten vs. Nevermind poll.

[OldFogey]

Mabye I should do a "Dirt vs. Superunknown vs. Ten vs. Nevermind poll.

Go for it. I think that would be a pretty cool debate.

[Rockbandfan23467]

It'l have to be in Album Reviews though, right?

[Shredder87]

The big four of thrash win for me solely because of Metallica's strength in every genre. Grunge just never really flowed with me, and though IMHO Chris Cornell is one of the greatest vocalists of our time, that can't save the grunge foursome from Nirvana (overrated) and Alice in Chains (just don't like 'em). As for the Founding Four, I hate Slayer and Anthrax, but I love Megadave (minus Risk) and I feel like Metallica just can't make a bad album, no matter what genre they try to put out. And just for good measure, my St. Anger themed flame-resistant suit is on.
Dude!!!! How do you not dig AIC?????? WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?! Did you know that Jar Of Flies was written in less than a week? That shows how great and talented that band was, not to mention that Layne was high off his a**. Layne hands down is my favorite singer man.

[TheCrimsonSaint]

Dude!!!! How do you not dig AIC?????? WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?! Did you that Jar Of Flies was written in less than a week? That shows how great and talented that band was, not to mention that Layne was high off his a**. Layne hands down is my favorite singer man.

Sorry man, didn't know I'd set you off like that.:cool: I respect the band (Layne in particular), but they just never clicked with me. If I had to guess I'd say that at some point they'll click the same way Metallica did for me. But at the moment, they don't do a whole lot for me. I'll let you know if things change.

[defenestrater]

I don't listen to thrash, and I got tired of grunge a long time ago (being in high school during the 90s let me hear enough of the stuff to last a lifetime). I went with grunge simply because I like Pearl Jam, even though I can't even remember the last time I listened to any of their older, grungier material.

[Shredder87]

Sorry man, didn't know I'd set you off like that.:cool: I respect the band (Layne in particular), but they just never clicked with me. If I had to guess I'd say that at some point they'll click the same way Metallica did for me. But at the moment, they don't do a whole lot for me. I'll let you know if things change.
haha. You didn't set me off. haha I was pretty inebriated yesterday(Over at Anime Con. I don't even like Anime) so I was a little bit more passionate than usual. hahahaha

[OldFogey]

It'l have to be in Album Reviews though, right?

Nah -- you're not reviewing albums you're asking people who know they're rock history to say what their favorite is.

Do it here, man

[rocknrolxdx]

I was surprised on how close this poll was I figured it would be a landslide, but didn't know which way, but it wasn't. PLUS I don't know why I'm getting so excited about this lol. It just seemed kinda cool. I don't know, whatever lol.

[spoonytooth]

Slayer is responsible for some of the worst sounds known to the human ear, so yeah gonna go with the grunge choice, though the only band of those I really like is Soundgarden.

[synthesizedpiano]

I voted grunge because, although I don't like Nirvana that much, I could just never get into thrash. I guess its too fast or something for me, but I do think that all the people in those four thrash bands are exceptional musicians, especially Dave Lombardo.

[Shredder87]

Nirvana is responsible for some of the worst sounds known to the human ear....

Fixed.

Actually I'm just going to bag on Scentless Apprentice. Have you actually heard that song?! IT'S SOOOOOOOO BAD!!!!!!! WTF is he playing, AND SINGING ABOUT?!

[TheCrimsonSaint]

Fixed.

Actually I'm just going to bag on Scentless Apprentice. Have you actually heard that song?! IT'S SOOOOOOOO BAD!!!!!!! WTF is he playing, AND SINGING ABOUT?!

How about this: Nirvana and Slayer are responsible for some of the worst sounds known to the human ear. Now we can all hate each other in peace.

[Shredder87]

How about this: Nirvana and Slayer are responsible for some of the worst sounds known to the human ear. Now we can all hate each other in peace.
Eh. If anybody is going to get credit for creating the worst sounds, it has to be Varg from Burzum, Dark Throne, Nargaroth, all them Black Metal bands(That followed Vargs blueprint on the Genre.)

[OldFogey]

How about this: Nirvana and Slayer are responsible for some of the worst sounds known to the human ear. Now we can all hate each other in peace.

Now where's the fun in that? :D:D:D

[xerichx07]

What is wrong with you guys? How is grunge winning?

[Shredder87]

Now where's the fun in that? :D:D:D
That's what I'm saying!!!!!

[Rockbandfan23467]

What is wrong with you guys? How is grunge winning?

Because James Hetfield and Lars Ulrich didn't have a last meal of bullets after Metallicas 4th album, even though they should have.

[TheCrimsonSaint]

Now where's the fun in that? :D:D:D

Good point. Resume violence.:rolleyes::D

[xerichx07]

Because James Hetfield and Lars Ulrich didn't have a last meal of bullets after Metallicas 4th album, even though they should have.

Yeah, I assumed that.