Ps3 2.40 Update Wed, Finally!!!!!!!!

[master2uall]

Thought id post this since i just read it and didnt see a thread about it here. Finally in game chat and trophies. What do you guys think?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nf/20080630/bs_nf/60548

[Gryffindor]

It's a major letdown.

1. NO voicechat.
2. NO access to the internet while playing a game.
3. NO developer requirements to implement trophies or music in-game.
4. NO cross-game invites.
5. NO retroactive trophies where they are going to be implemented.

It's too little too late.

Sony's official response to the voicechat issue is that they are considering it. (It didn't sound very promising).

[Purist]

What Gryf said. They needed something above and beyond Live, and this is like %10 of that functionality. Having to type out messages between songs is lame, which is why I wanted a voicechat patch.

[master2uall]

yeah, but atleast its something for now, tired of having to chat thru xfire just to see what my bud wants to play.

[TheBuddhistPalm]

What Gryf said. They needed something above and beyond Live, and this is like %10 of that functionality. Having to type out messages between songs is lame, which is why I wanted a voicechat patch.
agreed, can sony EVER catch up to features that xbox 360 has had SINCE LAUNCH?

as if making us wait months to be able to customize wallpapers wasnt bad enough, they still only halfway add "trophies" by making it optional (read: only big name titles will even spend the money to implement it decently) and in game xmb by ignoring voice chat and making in game music optional.

[lynx44]

I completely agree that they need to compete with XBL, especially with voice chat. The only problem is that I don't see older games being able to support it. The X360 works because they have always devoted a portion of the console's resources to it from day one.

If it were implemented across all games for the PS3 now, its possible that it wouldn't work smoothly. For example, if they allowed it in MGS, and lets just say it uses all available system resources, the voice chat would become jerky or the gameplay would slow down. If they start a standard now, however, then at least all games in the future could conceivably support it.

[KaYotiX]

2 years to late........sorry SONY i dont care about HOME or XMB anymore. Just get more games on the PS3. Only have 5 good games on the system IMO.

[xxpigxx]

I am happy with my 360 and XBL.

[Gatorguy91]

If you do not own a PS3, GTFO of this thread.

anyway, yes, this dissapoints me.

[Parodygm]

I am happy with my 360 and XBL.

That's nice. Why do we care again?

[Gryffindor]

I forgot the big one: XMB in-game is up to the developers to implement into their game. It's not going to work with all games.

Until Sony starts putting restrictions/requirements on developers we're likely to see nothing much in the way of improvements. What incentive do developers have for expending further resources to implement the new "goodies"?

[Purist]

XMB will be available in all games. Whether it will allow voice-chat, trophies, and cross invites is another thing. We should all be able to msg each other though. Yay?

[xxpigxx]

If you do not own a PS3, GTFO of this thread.

anyway, yes, this dissapoints me.


I do own a PS3 you douche. Thanks!

But I do not play it all too much.

[Samuel346]

5. NO retroactive trophies where they are going to be implemented.

It's too little too late.


Very true, this is what I was saying to one of my friends the other day.

Trophy systems have to come out WITH the console.


The console will be two years old by the time this comes out, who the hell wants to play all the games and do all the requirements to get a trophy for a game they haven't played in almost two years and may have traded in?

Stupid.

[toefer2]

The lack of voice-chat is a letdown, and I imagine it's probably the main thing most people wanted. I don't care about accessing the XMB during a game, if I can't access the stuff I actually wanted to access.

Aside from that, I think the lack of retroactive trophies is actually a great idea. There are tons of game save files online right now, and there'd be no point to having trophies, if people could easily just download the files, and "earn" a number of trophies without ever playing the game. It puts everyone on a level playing field from day one, which I think is great.

[Gryffindor]

This probably explains it best: http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/06/30/firmware-v240-faq/


Will voice-messaging/private chat be featured in 2.40 as well? If not, can we expect to see this feature added in the future?

We are evaluating the opportunity to offer voice chat, but for this update, we wanted to focus on text messaging as the key priority for communications that our users have asked for.

Can you use the web browser in game?

No, you must exit the game before browsing the internet.

Will In-Game XMB come up during playback of PS2 games, Blu-Ray discs, and DVDs?

The XMB is an exclusive feature for PS3 game titles. Accessing the XMB during gameplay was the top request from our users, which we focused on for this update. However, we continually engage PS3 owners for feedback and will evaluate the opportunity to offer XMB access during movie playback in the future.

Can we go to the display settings and change anything there in-game (resolution, input, etc)?

No, you must exit the game before changing these settings.

Will it be possible to change in-game the sound output?

Yes, sound output changes are supported.


Will we be able to access the PLAYSTATION Store while in-game?

No, but you can view your downloads in progress.

Will we be able to stream music (either via media server or USB drive) for custom soundtracks or is it relegated to music stored on the HDD?

Currently only music stored on the HDD is accessible in games that support this feature. We’d also like to reiterate that Firmware v2.40 merely enables custom soundtracks. It’s up to developers to include this feature in upcoming games (or to patch existing ones).

Does 2.4 enable cross game invites? Will it down the line?

No, cross-game invites are not available in this system software update. We are evaluating opportunities to expand on the new features delivered in 2.40.

Will trophies be mandatory for all games release here on out?

We are working with developers to ensure that Trophies are supported across the board in the future.

Where is each player’s trophy stat info held? I am going to upgrade my hard drive and I don’t know if the trophies will still be on my account if I earn some and then get a new hard drive.

Trophies will be attached to users’ PSN ID. Trophy data needs to be synchronized to the online account on PSN to be transferred to the new PS3 system.

Will the patch automatically allocate unlocked trophies according to your saved files or would you have to do it again?

No, Trophies aren’t retroactive.

Can we view PSN profiles/Trophies from a PC using a Web browser? Will there be an API for web developers to access the PSN data, so online profiles can be created?

We’re evaluating these opportunities to expand where Trophies can be experienced.

Can you only compare trophies with friends that are online?

As long as a friend has a PSN account, you can compare trophies with them regardless of their online status.

Is there a limit to how many trophies the devs can put set by Sony?

There’s not a limit on number of trophies, but there’s a value assigned to each trophy. Developers must balance out the trophies that are available to stay within an overall value based on whether the game is considered large-scope or small-scope. Essentially, a user that has unlocked every trophy in one game would have the same level as a user that unlocked every trophy in another title, all titles (depending on scope) have the same overall impact on a users’ level.

Will new games have a cool little icon on the back saying “trophy compatible?”

We’re currently working on how Trophy support will be messaged to the consumer on our software packaging.

When you get a trophy, does it make a noise?

Currently, no. How quickly things can change - there *will* be a sound effect when you unlock a Trophy.

[FloodOne]

xbox owners are mostly afraid that one day the two big dogs will compete evenly. scary huh? microsoft in a fair fight? i shudder to imagine the damage done to me during this corporate competition. maybe ms and sony should stop striving to earn my dollars so nintendo can swallow it all with their shovelware.


idiots

[Gryffindor]

xbox owners are mostly afraid that one day the two big dogs will compete evenly. scary huh? microsoft in a fair fight? i shudder to imagine the damage done to me during this corporate competition. maybe ms and sony should stop striving to earn my dollars so nintendo can swallow it all with their shovelware.


idiots

Hey, I love my Wii (but we do need some decent titles this year).

[kiggidykev]

Interested to see this update in action. Granted, we just got our PS3, so we probably won't be able to tell what's all been changed! haha

[FloodOne]

Hey, I love my Wii (but we do need some decent titles this year).

hah you sound like my brother

really i just wish the kids on summer vacation would use their time to research the industry's history.
ps1 v. n64- pushed disc based gaming to the standard
ps2 v. the world- proved that a head start is unbelievably powerful
ps2 v xbox- introduced online console gaming as the next big thing
360 v ps3- refining the online experience and forcing the industry to change and adapt

see high school kids, change=good

[bravo 08]

Playstation is struggling