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mrmooz
10-24-2007, 02:22 AM
After watching the comparison video of reptilia, and noticed how they are fairly similar I thought some people might like to see some of the videos or rock band and guitar hero 3 common songs to get a rough idea of what we are in store for.
I know that there are already some clips of some of these on rock band but they are interesting to compare anyway. I found it interesting the way they did cherub rock.


Cherub Rock = http://youtube.com/watch?v=EXbmA5LMJwU

Sabotage = http://youtube.com/watch?v=yo_Xi5cjOu0

One (downloadable album) = http://youtube.com/watch?v=6J6ywjPACiQ

Reptilia = http://youtube.com/watch?v=FIU8HD7bsfo

Mississippi Queen = http://youtube.com/watch?v=iize_aVncbQ

Paranoid = http://youtube.com/watch?v=Bl9BOxxVyoA

toefer
10-24-2007, 03:39 AM
After watching those videos I can't help but kind of hang my head and feel a little sad. It's like seeing the hottest girl in high school, who you had a crush on, snorting crack on the football bleachers (What, am I the only one? I'm not, right?)

It's like they've ruined something that was once so great. I'm sure the game will still be fun at times, but they seem to be going overboard in some of the songs, where the songs seem easier to play in real life than in the game.

Rook_x51
10-24-2007, 03:49 AM
From the demo I got the sense that I was not a "Guitar Hero" and more that I was a "Controller Shaped like a Guitar Hero".

It's tough to explain but it just didn't feel like I was in any way connected to the song at hand. I liken it to playing Boom-Boom-Rocket. I'm pressing buttons as I'm supposed to... but what does it have to do with the song? Case in point, EvenFlow on Expert. When it's a simple bend on the string in real life I have to hit 3 separate fret buttons? That's just silly and is done simply to add difficulty to a non-difficult song.

Anyone else get that feeling?

Don't get me wrong, the game is fine... it's just.... odd... tough to explain. I think it has to do with Neversoft trying to crank it to "11".

//Edit. I am not a guitar player in real life. When I say even Flow is an easy song I don't mean in real life. I mean as far as 5 buttoned rythm games go the song isn't/shouldn't be that difficult.

stiper327b
10-24-2007, 03:58 AM
Yeah, my extreme love for GH took a little hit when they announced that Dragon Force would be in GHIII. That's just not why I play those games. I know some people thrive on challenges, and that's great. But it's not for me. I play this game to get the feeling of playing music, however watered down it might be, I enjoy that. I don't enjoy twisting my fingers 90 different ways in one beat. I don't enjoy playing a song over and over and over and over and getting two or three measures further in each try.

I like the groove songs. Look at the song list for GHI. It's the best playlist of the GH games, even though it's the shortest. It covers all genres, without focusing on one. You get your classic rock, your punk, your modern rock, your blues, instrumentals, glam rock, and indie. The list on GHII started down the metal road, which just isn't the road on which I'd like to tread to often, and GHIII is sprinting down that road with a full head of steam.

There were songs on GHI and II that I would play simply to relax, to pass the time. I didn't care about high scores, I didn't care about stars, or about SP paths, all I cared about was grooving to the music. I've yet to play GHIII admittedly, but there doesn't seem to be many of those songs available on this newest entry.

I'll play GHIII, and I'm sure I'll find it enjoyable, but I'm not as certain that it'll reach the heights found in GHI and II, and from the looks of it all, Rock Band.

Rook_x51
10-24-2007, 04:00 AM
Yeah, my extreme love for GH took a little hit when they announced that Dragon Force would be in GHIII. That's just not why I play those games. I know some people thrive on challenges, and that's great. But it's not for me. I play this game to get the feeling of playing music, however watered down it might be, I enjoy that. I don't enjoy twisting my fingers 90 different ways in one beat. I don't enjoy playing a song over and over and over and over and getting two or three measures further in each try.

I like the groove songs. Look at the song list for GHI. It's the best playlist of the GH games, even though it's the shortest. It covers all genres, without focusing on one. You get your classic rock, your punk, your modern rock, your blues, instrumentals, glam rock, and indie. The list on GHII started down the metal road, which just isn't the road on which I'd like to tread to often, and GHIII is sprinting down that road with a full head of steam.

There were songs on GHI and II that I would play simply to relax, to pass the time. I didn't care about high scores, I didn't care about stars, or about SP paths, all I cared about was grooving to the music. I've yet to play GHIII admittedly, but there doesn't seem to be many of those songs available on this newest entry.

I'll play GHIII, and I'm sure I'll find it enjoyable, but I'm not as certain that it'll reach the heights found in GHI and II, and from the looks of it all, Rock Band.

Exactly. Radium Eyes anyone?

capitalfn9
10-24-2007, 04:08 AM
did anyone read the review of gh3 in OXM? they had a good quote about what guitar hero is becoming...

"GHIII succeeds as a polished technical workout for top-tier shredders, but the game's magic was never really about pressing buttons anyway -- it was about making the player feel like, well, a guitar hero. Now we just feel unworthy..."

Sums it up perfectly

stiper327b
10-24-2007, 04:08 AM
Oh man, I would just grove out to Radium Eyes, Even Rats, Can't You Hear Me Knocking, Infected, Sharp Dressed Man, Killer Queen, Spanish Castle Magic, Godzilla, Hey, Surrender, Girlfriend, Jessica, Gemini, Soy Bomb and a few others I can't think of right now. Some of those are fast tracks, sure, but there was just something about playing them, the notes weren't challenging enough that you couldn't concentrate on the song, but you still had to focus so you wouldn't fail.

Jimmik
10-24-2007, 04:15 AM
Yeah, my extreme love for GH took a little hit when they announced that Dragon Force would be in GHIII. That's just not why I play those games. I know some people thrive on challenges, and that's great. But it's not for me. I play this game to get the feeling of playing music, however watered down it might be, I enjoy that. I don't enjoy twisting my fingers 90 different ways in one beat. I don't enjoy playing a song over and over and over and over and getting two or three measures further in each try.

I like the groove songs. Look at the song list for GHI. It's the best playlist of the GH games, even though it's the shortest. It covers all genres, without focusing on one. You get your classic rock, your punk, your modern rock, your blues, instrumentals, glam rock, and indie. The list on GHII started down the metal road, which just isn't the road on which I'd like to tread to often, and GHIII is sprinting down that road with a full head of steam.

There were songs on GHI and II that I would play simply to relax, to pass the time. I didn't care about high scores, I didn't care about stars, or about SP paths, all I cared about was grooving to the music. I've yet to play GHIII admittedly, but there doesn't seem to be many of those songs available on this newest entry.

I'll play GHIII, and I'm sure I'll find it enjoyable, but I'm not as certain that it'll reach the heights found in GHI and II, and from the looks of it all, Rock Band.

You hit the nail on the head with that post.

I love GH1 and 2 with a burning passion. It's so fun to play these songs. As a drummer I know what its like to "experience" a song, so to speak, and this is the closest I can get as a guitarist, at least right now. It's such a great feeling. And I think Neversoft took a crap on that idea.

I play on expert for the GH games. I like a good challenge. I can 5 star stuff. Seeing some of the fret boards in GH3 gets me a little pumped up. .. ... ..... But the game juts doesn't have any soul. Or, rather doesn't have the Harmonix soul to it. I'd rather play a Rock Band guitar line with the RB interface than an enthralling note chart on GH3. And this being said haven't even playing the game.

Why challenge the players in a way that puts the difficulty at a higher priority than the music? What's this battle mode bull****? No thanks, I'd like to actually get through the entire song, thank you. Gah.....Rant over! It's hard to express this dissapointment.

Anyways, back on topic...I do enjoy the comparison of these kinda videos. Just gets me more pumped for RB :D

masterx1918
10-24-2007, 04:26 AM
there's certain songs on GHIII that look at least fun and "relaxing" to play. For example La Grange....and.....La Grange.....ok never mind maybe all of the songs look like nothing more than a ***** to play. To tell you the truth all of the notecharts give me a Freya type of impression; way harder than they should be

Jimmik
10-24-2007, 04:27 AM
there's certain songs on GHIII that look at least fun and "relaxing" to play. For example La Grange....and.....La Grange.....ok never mind maybe all of the songs look like nothing more than a ***** to play. To tell you the truth all of the notecharts give me a Freya type of impression; way harder than they should be

Why does everyone hate Freya! It's not that tough :confused:

Rook_x51
10-24-2007, 04:35 AM
Why does everyone hate Freya! It's not that tough :confused:

Cause you are the best player in teh world! You are the ownzors and the rest of us must suck because we find what is commonly known as one of the hardest songs in the game very difficult!

All bow down to the awesome Jimmik :P

Yes, 'Teh' was misspelled on purpose. And in all seriousness, it's the cords that kill me. Something about it the way they are put together equates to death for my fingers.

stiper327b
10-24-2007, 04:45 AM
I didn't think Freya was hard, just boring. It was just so repetitious that I stopped concentrating on the music and started focusing on how my hands were starting to hurt.

Jimmik
10-24-2007, 04:48 AM
Cause you are the best player in teh world! You are the ownzors and the rest of us must suck because we find what is commonly known as one of the hardest songs in the game very difficult!

All bow down to the awesome Jimmik :P

Yes, 'Teh' was misspelled on purpose. And in all seriousness, it's the cords that kill me. Something about it the way they are put together equates to death for my fingers.

I'm taking that as a compliment :D And yea. I know what you mean, that one part (Green)->(Red+Yellow)->(Green+Red) just confused the hell out of me. I actually do better when I don't watch the notes for that part, no joke. When I think about it it messes me up :P

I actually regret asking why people hate Freya. I know why people hate it. I like it still:)

Eman311
10-24-2007, 04:50 AM
It looks like they added notes in sabotage to match the drums. what a big no-no

Rook_x51
10-24-2007, 04:54 AM
It looks like they added notes in sabotage to match the drums. what a big no-no

Not to mention you have to play the frikkin' scratches. So dumb.

espher
10-24-2007, 04:56 AM
Haha wow, comparing GH3 Sabotage and the short clip of RB's Sabotage from the IGN preview, yeah, there are parts in the GH3 chart that just made go o.O

stiper327b
10-24-2007, 05:04 AM
I guess I'm still trying to figure out why GHIII added Sabotage at all. It's not a guitar heavy song, it's not bass heavy. In fact, it's a vocally focused song, which is perfect for RB. If you ask me, it's just inviting a bunch of less than favorable comparisons of GHIII to Rock Band.

Apples
10-24-2007, 05:08 AM
Used to be concerned about the whole sharing of songs between GH3 and RB. After seeing the "style" of notecharts that GH3 is tending toward... I am not anymore.

Now I get to play the song the right way, and then the GH3 way (which is like the right way, except with scads of unnecessary triple chords) :D

stiper327b
10-24-2007, 05:12 AM
Yeah, did the chart makers (or whatever they're called) get paid per circle included in the chart? Some of those are just unnecessary. GHI seemed to be plenty fun without an avalanche of three button chords. And even GHII never even got close to the amount seen so far in GHIII.

Xenoburst
10-24-2007, 05:20 AM
I didn't know how accurate you guys really were until I saw the video for Number of the Beast on Expert...just wow...Does one really need all those triple chords?

Video here if any one hasn't seen
http://youtube.com/watch?v=WwWW0H5J2BU

e1duke
10-24-2007, 06:08 AM
Yea i played a demo of GH3 and The Metal and Even Flow just felt weird and mechanical, like the notes didn't feel like they were meant to be in the game. The way I feel when I lay GH or GH2, the notes just feel right, the right amount of buttons for the notes and chords, but after that demo they just over did some of the stuff and it doesn't make any sense.

BathTub
10-24-2007, 06:21 AM
So does the first player on sabotage get some sort of stick to poke the second player so they stay awake between strums?

sporkBrigade
10-24-2007, 06:30 AM
So does the first player on sabotage get some sort of stick to poke the second player so they stay awake between strums?

The second player was on easy. I'm assuming it should be a little trickier on expert, one hopes.

Quinarvy
10-24-2007, 06:37 AM
...the singer in One scares me.

When I play that song...my singer will not look like he was made with the intention of scaring little children.

Simonious
10-24-2007, 06:44 AM
The new chick they put in the game (as with the rest of the game) fails.

stiper327b
10-24-2007, 07:04 AM
The high amount of sex they put in the game fails as well. I don't care if it makes me look like a prude, there is just absolutely no reason one of the venues has to have skimpily clad girls go-go dancing on stage. It just reeks of pandering, of a bunch of sorry mid-20 something male programmers getting to act out their worst fantasies.

And really, is there any other reason to put a female J-pop guitarist in the game other than to have an excuse to model a young looking girl in a school outfit?

I know the intertwining history of sex and rock and roll, but this just seems all a bit much. GHI and II were able to make their games visually interesting and capture the rock lifestyle just fine without resorting to sexing everything up.

Oh, and btw, the woman singing Maps in the single player montage video is sexier than any scantily clad chick found in GHIII.

army_of_me
10-24-2007, 07:13 AM
The high amount of sex they put in the game fails as well. I don't care if it makes me look like a prude, there is just absolutely no reason one of the venues has to have skimpily clad girls go-go dancing on stage. It just reeks of pandering, of a bunch of sorry mid-20 something male programmers getting to act out their worst fantasies.

And really, is there any other reason to put a female J-pop guitarist in the game other than to have an excuse to model a young looking girl in a school outfit?

I know the intertwining history of sex and rock and roll, but this just seems all a bit much. GHI and II were able to make their games visually interesting and capture the rock lifestyle just fine without resorting to sexing everything up.

Oh, and btw, the woman singing Maps in the single player montage video is sexier than any scantily clad chick found in GHIII.

Total agreement.

tombrady
10-24-2007, 07:13 AM
Meh, to me, at the end of the day, Guitar Hero is a video game and nothing more. I don't feel like I'm accomplishing anything musically for playing it, regardless of the difficulty.

The way I see it, the two games are going to complement each other nicely...if I want to play something very difficult, I'll play GH3, and if I want to drum or play easier guitar parts (and play more for the musical aspect) I'll play RB.

I have no problem with them making the songs difficult...I mean look at "One." How the hell else could they have done that first part of the solo? I just don't see why people would buy a video game to make them feel like a real guitar player...that's not what it's about at all. It's about having a good time with your buddies, and for a lot of people, it's about being challenged.

Having said that, I still think Rock Band drumming will be harder than Guitar Hero expert on most songs, and it will also be a lot more fun.

dlisapussy
10-24-2007, 07:39 AM
does it have rhythm instead of bass?

I wish it would have both.

The_Vampire_Lestat
10-24-2007, 07:41 AM
Man this has really turned into a GH3 bashing board.

Reminding me of scorehero.

BiffMan
10-24-2007, 07:52 AM
Oh, and btw, the woman singing Maps in the single player montage video is sexier than any scantily clad chick found in GHIII.

QFT

The little slow hand curl/caress on the mic she does is almost shockingly sensual as an animation. Me likey.

foolosophy
10-24-2007, 07:52 AM
I really like this thread though because all the bashing is justified unlike the other times I'd see some people just blatantly blurting out "GH3 sucks, Neversoft LOLOL". I totally agree with the "fun to play" argument. I've been a More Than A Feeling, Killer Queen and Jessica kind-of-person myself. That said there's still enough chill songs in GH3 for me to pick it up this Sunday. I'm looking forward to Black Magic Woman, Cliffs of Dover and Pride & Joy.

kotran
10-24-2007, 07:57 AM
Sad....After watching a few of these, there is something definitely missing. There is no sense of involvement. The characters in the graphics aren't moving to the beat of the songs, not really moving at all and act totally disengaged. Star power doesn't seem to add any heightened noise or even any extra movements from the character. They are boring, as are the light shows associated with them.

I just finished watching Sabotage, and was bored, not by the music, but just by the way the graphics moved. Sigh....wish it was better.... And I agree with everyone else on the needless difficulty.

Still loving Rock Band though.

dlisapussy
10-24-2007, 08:00 AM
The second player was on easy. I'm assuming it should be a little trickier on expert, one hopes.



Yea, and I bet both your arms hurt like a ***** if you play rhythm on expert. Plus there's a nice little diddy for the rhythm player at 2:12 that will keep you awake...

LoneSteele
10-24-2007, 10:56 AM
Exactly. Radium Eyes anyone?

OMG You hit the nail on the head.

I absolutely love playing that song. I was introduced to the Guitar Hero Franchise a couple months before 2 came out for PS2 by two hardcore players. They still play every day reaching for higher scores on expert. They scoff at me when I play Radium Eyes (the most fun song to play in the game I find). When I tried playing beating the higher tiered songs on expert I stopped having fun. It became about beating the songs, and all it did was cause frustration, or relief when I finally did beat them. I just didn't find them fun.

foolosophy
10-24-2007, 10:58 AM
So after watching a couple videos I'm a little dumbfounded at why they would add drum parts to the guitar charts. Let alone add a flood of unnecessary three-button chords. It's a little ridiculous.

jq71586
10-24-2007, 11:04 AM
Why does everyone hate Freya! It's not that tough :confused:

I hit a wall on Freya at expert that took me a week to pass. I hadn't strengthened my hand enough and for that minute and a half section where it repeated the same four mix of notes and chords, my hand would just get tired very quickly and my meter would slowly drift from green to red to fail.... I hate Freya so much

"Freya, pound the same four notes for a minute and a half straight. Feel the excitement!!"

IErrantVentureI
10-24-2007, 11:14 AM
Did anyone ever play "What I Like About You" on Rocks the 80's? That song had an insane amount of triple notes.