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Ardius

10-27-2007, 11:06 PM

Well, I have to wait another month for it......but, looking at the new official guitar hero forum, I know Im not going to get a new controller...

I have played the demo on 360 though, and it seems rediculously easy. HOs and POs that I would normally miss a few notes on GH2 and 80s I now hit every single one.
And thats definitely not me getting better, if I go back and play GH2 and 80s right now, I still miss the odd note here and there, with the GH3 demo, I hit every single one every time.

Its actually hilarious to read the GH forums now, all the people who were praising how great the ideas of battle mode are and how good the game looks are now making many threads with names that include "wtf?" in them. I saw this coming when I heard Neversoft were taking over development.

DarkSide

10-28-2007, 12:38 AM

Yeah, it seems as though a lot of people are having problems with the les paul. Anyone here having any issues?

jq71586

10-28-2007, 12:44 AM

Yeah, it seems as though a lot of people are having problems with the les paul. Anyone here having any issues?

Yeah. I have no problem with the game itself. Granted, I'm only 3 tiers through on expert but first the green button didn't work at all. Now if there is a series of chords like 12 in a row or something in a steady pace I'll miss two of them like it's not registering the hit at all. I can keep a beat on the guitars, I've logged more than enough hours on these guitar games.

I am severely disappointed in the Les Paul.

DasBoot

10-28-2007, 12:52 AM

I see this removable neck "feature" is really adding to the overall experience. I imagine we will be seeing some DIY solidifying the neck solutions in the next few days

jonfitzsimon

10-28-2007, 12:53 AM

oh, crap. that is good to know. i didnt know that many people were having problems. I was about to go buy the game and guitar in about 45 minutes, but now i might just buy the game...

psyborg

10-28-2007, 01:01 AM

Been playing it since midnight. Have a few complaints(mostly with note charting) but overall I like it and can't stop playing.

Quickplay Co-op is in the game btw, that must have been some kind of myth.

jonfitzsimon

10-28-2007, 01:03 AM

no problem with your Les Paul?

psyborg

10-28-2007, 01:07 AM

Didn't get one. Have 2 xplorers already.

jonfitzsimon

10-28-2007, 01:22 AM

interesting. i think i am going to buy a warranty just to cover my ass. i still like the look of the LP and i only have one explorer, so i need another guitar anyways...

robmandark

10-28-2007, 01:39 AM

the star power is really sensitive and sometimes my green button doesnt work. les paul is lame. and the note charts blow. im only on tier 5 though so it could get better. hard too easy, and expert too hard. its not progressed evenly like in gh2.

jq71586

10-28-2007, 01:41 AM

jonfitzsimon

10-28-2007, 01:49 AM

holy crap guys. That sucks. I guess i am going to get the game by itself then. I was over at the GH forums and almost everybody seems to be having problems with the guitar. I guess i am going to wait for the LP 2.0.

Zammel

10-28-2007, 02:22 AM

Yeah, it seems as though a lot of people are having problems with the les paul. Anyone here having any issues?

Yeah, my strum bar and D-pad do not work correctly. They don't work all of the time, and when they do, they only register down-direction presses. I may exchange, I may not. I have heard a lot of issues with the Les Paul, and I may end up with another defective bundle.

If I don't exchange, I will return it and pay off Rock Band. I played RB at Best Buy and it was simply amazing.

Not to turn this into a GHIII hate thread, but that is my situation. I played the game with my Xplorer and it was fun, but the Les Paul blows so far.

R0ck3r

10-28-2007, 02:51 AM

Just wondering but does anybody know if Best Buy has either:
1. The Xplorer Bundle
2. The Les Paul Bundle
3. Both of them
I believe some people on these boards work at Best Buy.

Nevermind, looked online, they even had a picture of the bundle with the Xplorer online.

Rook_x51

10-28-2007, 03:05 AM

Well I don't know what to do now. I hate the Xplorer, it works fine but looks dumb (imo). But take a gander through page 1 at the official forum:

http://www.guitarhero.com/forum/8

SCARY.

R0ck3r

10-28-2007, 03:12 AM

Well I don't know what to do now. I hate the Xplorer, it works fine but looks dumb (imo). But take a gander through page 1 at the official forum:

http://www.guitarhero.com/forum/8

SCARY.

Yeah I noticed that but all the problems with the LP from what I can see is for the PS3, I have the 360. The only problem I have seen so far is the green button and you can get it working through "experimentation".

By "experimentation" I meant whacking the **** out of it.

Zammel

10-28-2007, 03:15 AM

Yeah I noticed that but all the problems with the LP from what I can see is for the PS3, I have the 360. The only problem I have seen so far is the green button and you can get it working through "experimentation".

By "experimentation" I meant whacking the **** out of it.

I read a few pages on the GHIII Forum, and the connection issues seem to be with the PS3. However, the buttons, strum bar, etc. seem to be universal problems.

I am going to return mine, and if somehow the Strat magically works with GH III at some point, then I will pick it up. For now, though, the number of defects seems very unacceptable and I would rather not risk getting another defective Les Paul.

R0ck3r

10-28-2007, 03:25 AM

I read a few pages on the GHIII Forum, and the connection issues seem to be with the PS3. However, the buttons, strum bar, etc. seem to be universal problems.

I am going to return mine, and if somehow the Strat magically works with GH III at some point, then I will pick it up. For now, though, the number of defects seems very unacceptable and I would rather not risk getting another defective Les Paul.

My blue button wasn't working at first, but that fixed..
main problem is that star power is totally uncontrolable. usually deploys instantly, and when it doesnt I have no control over when it does. Not even the Back/Select button works to deploy. This is unacceptable and honestly a load of crap that this is happening. Makes the battles unplayable.

I noticed the star power being way to sensitive even with the GH2 X-Plorer guitar while playing the GH3 demo, so I think that's more of an issue with the actual software, not the controller.

The only issue I've noticed while playing on the 360 so far is often the held notes just cut out for no reason.

I can't enjoy the game, because the Les Paul licks balls. I hope the astrophysicists that work at Red Octane fix this problem before I shove this piece of excrement up their asses.

Have not had any issues with my 360 LP. I love the thing. Unless you get a bum unit its better then the X-plorer in ever single aspect IMO. Like trilidar said, the fret buttons feel much better, the strum button isnt 'clicky' and the whammy bar feels light years better... I'll end up buying another and retire the X-plorer as a backup in case I run out of batteries or break a LP.

Theres some positive reinforcement (one is lol).

A_Perfect_TOOL

10-28-2007, 05:31 AM

Quickplay Co-op is in the game btw, that must have been some kind of myth.

Only on the 360 and only if you connect to X Box Live, it downloads a patch to add it to the game, dunno when the other systems will get it.

Rev0lver

10-28-2007, 08:05 AM

joeincolorado

10-28-2007, 08:09 AM

I really do like the game. Very much so, in fact. The thing that upsets the hell out of me is the battle mode that you're forced to do in Career mode. I made it through the first two but now I'm on the very last with Lou...Good lord, that's impossible for me. I've tried it probably 6 or 7 times and I just can't figure it out. My wrist is broken and my strumming arm is just a waste at this point...lol. Honestly, battle mode is poo in my mind, especially when it's forced on you. I'm sure once I get past this bastard, I'll get over it but, for right now...I give GH3 a 9/10 caust that damn battle is pissing me off...lol.

GrenadeJumper

10-28-2007, 08:11 AM

Not too fond of the Les Paul yet.... It looks nice but functions differently. Seems a bit slower to me. I think it just needs some good breaking in though. For the time being though I'm using my faithful SG.

Raider87

10-28-2007, 08:12 AM

Ya I'm on the final battle now and he's kicking my butt for now...

And as far as the controller goes mine is really sensitive with SP and it activates sometimes without me doing anything... it really bugs me, but my green button is fine

Oh and I have to say you know those stickers that come with the game... the ones that you can put on the buttons.... well It's a trap! Don't use them, they'll make it all sticky and really annoying to play with if they come off...

GrenadeJumper

10-28-2007, 08:17 AM

It's funny... my star power works absolutly fine. Maybe the ps2 guitars work better..? I have no clue. It just amazes me though to think that most of the guitars are not working properly at all. I mean, how bad of testers do they have?

The_Vampire_Lestat

10-28-2007, 08:23 AM

I haven't had any problems with my LP. Better than the Xplorer in every way.

Tried songs with both guitars and each time I get a higher score with the LP. Played it for about 8 hours and no problems.

The game is harder than the others that's for sure. Number of the Beast was ridiculous.

I have to ask myself with some of the problems people are having, "Do they calibrate anything?".

Oxyplox

10-28-2007, 08:28 AM

I'm getting my game + Les Paul in a little bit, I'll report on how that's working.
Kind of nervous, seems like people aren't having the best of luck with the LP, but we'll see.

nicko68

10-28-2007, 08:28 AM

I wasn't actually able to buy GHIII for the Wii since it was sold out everywhere. *sigh*

However, I did play the Wii version in store, and also saw quite a few other people play. I thought, and I heard others say as well, that the Les Paul feels great! Better than the PS2 SG (and I like the SG a lot). The strum bar is quiet. The buttons seem closer together, so that takes a bit of getting used to, but they felt really good. The whammy bar was a bit loose, and the SP wasn't as sensitive as on the SG (I thought it was great on the SG, the LP needs a bit of a shake to get it going... I'm sure I'll get used to it though, once I buy a copy for myself). Overall people that played there seemed to think the controller was great.

Eman311

10-28-2007, 08:32 AM

Neversoft did an outstanding job.

Cult of personality is hard.

jq71586

10-28-2007, 08:37 AM

I thought the game itself was very good. I didn't mind the notecharts as much as some people and boss battles weren't as annoying as I thought they would be, and I was having alot of fun playing it.

However, that being said, with the guitar problems this becomes one of the most disappointing purchases I've ever made. A faulty guitar sucks so much fun out of the game and completely turned me off from it.

It's a shame too, I agree with most of you that some of us were pleasantly surprised but the hardware (at least on 360 and PS3) is incredibly faulty and that is absolutely uncalled for.

Oxyplox

10-28-2007, 08:49 AM

The only bundle available was the one with the xplorer controller. >_<
Oh well. At least I shouldn't have any trouble with it.

Rev0lver

10-28-2007, 09:08 AM

**** you satan. i thought i could beat the game in 3 hours until now. this is impossible.

Chthonic

10-28-2007, 09:10 AM

I'm enjoying it so far. Certainly not as bad as some people say it is. Sure it's no Rock Band, but what other game is?

Quastor

10-28-2007, 09:16 AM

gobacktogo

10-28-2007, 09:33 AM

Not sure if it's just me, but on the 360 when I activate star power, there's about a 75% the game studders and lags for about 2-3 seconds. If that happens, there's about a 95% it's going to cause me to break my combo. I've only had the game in for one session, but I certainly hope this doesn't continue, or I'll be extremely pissed.

that happens to me every once and a while...annoys the piss out of me because liek you said it breaks your combo 9 times out of 10.
my Les Paul doesn't have any issues though, and I love them game. It'll doa fine job of occupying my time until November 20th. ;)

Eman311

10-28-2007, 09:34 AM

I can't beat the beginning of raining blood.

gah.

Rock_Starman

10-28-2007, 09:49 AM

No PS3 guitar problems here. It shut itself off when I was taking a while to come up with a band name (still haven't) but I'm pretty sure that's supposed to happen. Based on the number of people that couldn't even figure out how to turn it on I wonder if they have the neck snapped on right.

The only thing I feel like complaining about right now is no intro on Number of the Beast. Cult of Personality and One have it so I dunno why Number of the Beast doesn't.

Raider87

10-28-2007, 10:31 AM

jq71586

10-28-2007, 10:47 AM

So is TTFaF a joke or what?? I can even get past 1% and it's pissing me off... I'm not even doing that bad on it.. I'm hitting notes yet I still fail... I took it into practice mode and hit 67% on the intro yet I can't get past 1%.... this is really dumb

OK, I figured out what might be screwing up the guitar and it seems to be working 1000% better. There was a tiny bit of glue where the guitar locks in and some people at the guitar hero forum figured that out. Looks like they are good for something :D lol jk.

But yeah I actually had trouble getting to 1% and I haven't yet to see 2% it is a tad ridiculous. It is kind of cool to play the whole song in practice mode though.

Raider87

10-28-2007, 10:50 AM

OK, I figured out what might be screwing up the guitar and it seems to be working 1000% better. There was a tiny bit of glue where the guitar locks in and some people at the guitar hero forum figured that out. Looks like they are good for something :D lol jk.

But yeah I actually had trouble getting to 1% and I haven't yet to see 2% it is a tad ridiculous. It is kind of cool to play the whole song in practice mode though.

You mean where the neck locks in?? Thats weird but I'll check it out...
Oh and ya I've gotten to 2% now :(

jq71586

10-28-2007, 10:53 AM

You mean where the neck locks in?? Thats weird but I'll check it out...
Oh and ya I've gotten to 2% now :(

Yeah, the connection between the neck and the body wasn't solid and someone mentioned there might be a layer of "glue-like" substance disrupting the connection. It was more on the PS3 version of the guitar. People are having tons of problems with the PS3 guitar connecting to the system and then trying to play it.

R0ck3r

10-28-2007, 11:06 AM

taking my first break from playing. just beat the slipknot song. personally, i hated the game from the demo. i bought it today thinking i would regret it, but it's awesome. once i got used to it after a couple songs, i loved it.

That is actually true. Also the Les Paul doesn't turn out as bad as most people make it! (at least mine doesn't, Xbox 360). I think the Les Paul is better than the SG in my opinion.

cmg4894

10-28-2007, 11:25 AM

I had a connection problem with the 360. I figured it out. I changed the faceplate before connecting. It didn't work at all so I put he black one on again, connected fine and changed again. Seems to working well. The neck does feel a little loose.

Over all the first two tiers seem strange. I have only played on HARD but I don't like them. I was thinking I got screwed with a horrible game. But the higher tiers are great. Surprising songs that I love: Kool Thing, Anarchy In The UK, Pride and Joy.

Over all pretty happy but still have to wait a month for a much better game.

Eman311

10-28-2007, 11:47 AM

The devil boss battle is incredibly cheap and lame.

HeXcoda

10-28-2007, 12:18 PM

The devil boss battle is incredibly cheap and lame.

Agreed. I got through the whole game, even the somewhat dodgy battles with Morello and Slash, and Lou is just ridiculous. And natually, Dragonforce is locked unless you can beat Lou...

Since it relies heavily on luck, and the AI actually is HARDER to beat on Easy and Medium (since he doesn't take as much damage due to less notes on his screen) I'm probably gonna fold. It's not worth the headaches.

Neversoft has been doing this for years -- bolting features onto their games nobody really wanted or asked for, all in the name of making them "deeper" (see: needlessly complicated and unfun). Typical of them.

If not for the fact that you can "play guitar" and "hit notes" to a fairly decent setlist, which is a concept that stands alone, the game would be failure. I mean... doing a Rage Against the Machine song... in a country/western bar while strippers gyrate on stage. w. t. f.

Eman311

10-28-2007, 01:03 PM

It's complete luck. I hit nearly all the notes in the solo, but if he happens to get a double notes power up = instant fail. It's not fun or fair. I have heard of a specific way to beat him on expert, but I need to pray the game gives me the appropiate setting to do so.

CrazyIvan

10-28-2007, 01:29 PM

Agree 100% about Lou. Frickin' ridiculous. I got up to his battle on hard and got absolutely thrashed. This after 4-5 starring every song (except for the equally ridiculous Raining Blood), so it's not lack of skill. The Lou battle is just complete luck. He gets the first power-up, so if it's anything worthwhile, you not only get thrown down to red or yellow, but you also probably miss your first chance at a power-up. Which gives him 2 before you get your first. Sucks. I had to go down to medium to beat him, and even that took me 3 tries. Frickin' stupid.

Otherwise, I do enjoy most of the songs. There are really some gems in there. I was surprised by how much fun some of them are (i.e. La Grange, Cliffs of Dover, and Pride and Joy).

Ledgo2

10-28-2007, 01:47 PM

Agreed. I got through the whole game, even the somewhat dodgy battles with Morello and Slash, and Lou is just ridiculous. And natually, Dragonforce is locked unless you can beat Lou...

Since it relies heavily on luck, and the AI actually is HARDER to beat on Easy and Medium (since he doesn't take as much damage due to less notes on his screen) I'm probably gonna fold. It's not worth the headaches.

Neversoft has been doing this for years -- bolting features onto their games nobody really wanted or asked for, all in the name of making them "deeper" (see: needlessly complicated and unfun). Typical of them.

If not for the fact that you can "play guitar" and "hit notes" to a fairly decent setlist, which is a concept that stands alone, the game would be failure. I mean... doing a Rage Against the Machine song... in a country/western bar while strippers gyrate on stage. w. t. f.

I too, thought the AI on easy and medium would be hard unless you lined it up with an up dif. move then string snap, such and such.

Only reason I beat Luo on hard was because I was smart and saved all my powerups to the end, hit him with over five things, two strings (Dunno if the second took place) Mirror, Whammy, and double notes. He got a painful ending. I just learnt you could stack attacks on slash, and when I learnt that, slash got his string snapped and amp turned off. Lovely.

Luo on the other hand is too hard. The soles of my feet and my right arm ache from playing GH from when I got it this morning at 9 AM to roughly 7:24 PM. I already beat career on hard and co-op on hard. What sucks is that they seem like they hardly give you a chance. Then again, in the devil solo, it is about him, but come on, when they give you a left flip, its hard to even catch the power ups. I beat him my fourth and final try by doing what I said above.

I've also noticed, this game can be glitchey, my controller works fine in GH1 and GH2, yet I will hold a chord, and it will just kill itself in the middle of the chord. The one thing annoyingly hard about this game is the flashes, I mean, I am trying to play a song, and they just FLASH away at your eyes.

One thing I must disagree on is the powerups thing, though. Think of it this way, if we were guitar dueling on a song which the AI cannot miss a note unless you intervene, how will it be fair? Now, the only thing bad about it is when your facing a player. It seems like it is just stupid, and the old GH ProBattle is better off then those stupid abilities. Its not showing who is the better player, but more of who can be a cheat more.

/rant end.

EDIT: Also, TTFAF is Neversofts way of trying to recreate Jordan, but being REALLY lame at it, making a very unfun song.

holyground

10-28-2007, 01:51 PM

Ledgo2

10-28-2007, 01:51 PM

Maybe it's just me, but I thought lou was a pushover. Now, I can't do hard that well, so I f'ed up from that, but the secret is that you just have to save your powerups. 2-3 and just release them in a row. Sorry if I sound like a *****... but it really was easy once I figured that out.

Your not sounding like one, its just extremely annoying.

EDIT: Another thing, I am not too fond of the Starpower meter. It looks stupid. And peeved Clive Winston is gone.

Shredder

10-28-2007, 02:03 PM

I really like the game. It fulfilled all my expectations for it. The song list is awesome so far (I'm five tiers through expert), the online play is excellent, and the note charts are quality. There's really no reason to diss GHIII; it's a great game.

Ledgo2

10-28-2007, 02:13 PM

It'll go down hill last tier. It was real fun the first five tiers, but near the end, they screw it up a bit. Luo may make you want to quit for a bit. I suggest you take a break before even trying last tier material.

MrGrieves

10-28-2007, 02:17 PM

I got GH III today, I'm about 5 tiers through hard right now haven't had any problems with my LP. Overall is a pretty good game, the note chart could be a little better but aside from that I really like it.

visualdeity

10-28-2007, 02:29 PM

Thoroughly happy with the game. The Les Paul (PS3 version) works fine for me, but I do sympathize with those having hardware troubles (especially PS3 and Wii owners, as that's all we have to work with). The game itself is awesome. Neversoft did a great job with the graphical update, and the song list is easily the best in a GH game to date. I was pretty irritated with timing issues on the demo at Gamestop, but that seems to have been an issue with TV lag or something, because I have no problems on my setup at home. All in all, real props to Neversoft for managing to carry the torch on this franchise, I was sincerely afraid they'd bomb it.

Boss battles can kiss my ass, though. Hell, even on hard difficulty, Slash was really pissing me off. Not looking forward to Lou (I just got to the last set at 6am this morning before calling it a night, and haven't had a chance to finish the game up) at all. I am kind of looking forward to Dragonforce, though, just to find out what difficulty I have to turn it down to in order to pass the song, heh heh.

IErrantVentureI

10-28-2007, 02:31 PM

I get mine tomorrow, (From RedOctane) and I'm hoping my guitar is glitch free.

jq71586

10-28-2007, 02:33 PM

I actually just had to stop playing when I got to that Slipknot song. There is a part where it alternate GY RB and YO chords over and over again and it was like I was hypnotized and I stopped strumming.

By the way I failed at 98% :(

Ledgo2

10-28-2007, 02:40 PM

I have not figured out, but how do I play the encores in Cooperative in single player and vice versa? I'd like to play these in single player and multiplayer.

jonfitzsimon

10-28-2007, 02:48 PM

i too am enjoying this game but i am having the same problem activating star power as well on my LP. Sometimes it automatically goes off (but that happened in the demo as well, so i think thats a software issue) but when i try to activate it myself with the LP i have to rigorisouly shake it or jump up and down with it tilted just to activate it, and that of course ruins my streak which is frustrating.

Everything else about the LP i LOVE! But the star power problems suck...

Angry_Games

10-28-2007, 03:10 PM

well, I have a 360, a Wii, and the PS2. I love my PS2 guitars. The buttons and strumbar are awesome. The 360 is uncomfortable to hold and use a pick with (been playing a real guitar about 15 years and it's much more enjoyable and easier for me to play this way), and the buttons on the Explorer are...too hard or something. I don't like the way the feel, and they feel like they sorta stick here and there but I've cleaned it endlessly. They did it from day one. (Even the replacement Explorer Red Octane had to ship me for warranty replacement).

I wanted the Wii, but somehow I misread that there was no online co-op. That's the one thing I been looking forward to. So while the wife was out today, I told her to get the PS2 version. I don't care about graphics, I hate Xbox Live (I have to keep it unplugged from Live or it tends to lock up the console or take 5 minutes to load a file off the hdd). I don't care about DLC because my money is going to Rock Band. The Wii would have been cool, but I'd have to invest more money into another guitar for another console.

No big deal. As I said, I love my PS2 and the guitars. So I plugged in my old PS2 guitars and GH3 and come to find out, somehow, now when I use a pick (or even use my fingers like a pick), it registers a double strum instead of a single (I'm pretty sure it's reading the snap-back of the strumbar as another strum). If I just use my thumb and press the strumbar down, no problem. Except I've played with a pick from the beginning.

Funnier yet, I have the Xbox360 demo, and while I don't like the controller, I play it with a pick too and it plays perfectly. That's why I didn't worry about getting the PS2 as I figured no problem there. Lol I figured wrong.

However, other than that nasty little whine-fest, I am really liking the songs. REALLY. I'm only into tier2 but I can't wait to get more songs! The boss battles sound kinda weak from what you guys have already posted, but <shrug> we'll power through them right?

The other negative, and it might just be me being stupid, is that I can't find quickplay co-op, only career. Am I just not looking in the right spot? And what's with some songs only being played in certain modes?

Other than all of that, I dig it because it's still full of the original Harmonix charm and fun of Guitar Hero, has awesome songs, and it's enough to hold me over ($49.99! game only!) until I plop down $169 for Rock Band (and that's where my DLC money is going...too bad the Wii version won't come out for a long time, I got a LOT of friends with a Wii but not many with a 360, but ALL of them have a PS2 yet no online component...but I can't expect much out of that old PS2 honestly lol).

Anyway, great game, bad deal on the code that checks the strumbar since it reads me playing with a pick as double-strums =(

holyground

10-28-2007, 03:20 PM

I have not figured out, but how do I play the encores in Cooperative in single player and vice versa? I'd like to play these in single player and multiplayer.

Have you played through co-op career? you have to go through once with someone else and then play them. Once you unlock the songs, I know they're available in quickplay and online modes. Does that make sense?

afroduck

10-28-2007, 04:13 PM

I have a pretty strong set of impressions, but I'm saving it for an entire blog post. Although I'm not sure any review on this site will do it justice with profanity filters in place.

Totally in agreement. I wish I could've recorded my "vocal review" as I played through the thing today. We're talking X rated language for a few solid hours.

Rock_Starman

10-28-2007, 04:31 PM

I saw the ad a few minutes ago. They're using Slither. Maybe it has to be unlocked by a cheat otherwise that's getting into false advertising territory.

Ultrace

10-28-2007, 04:33 PM

no problem with your Les Paul?
No problems here... We actually got two copies of the game for co-op'ing (our GH 1/2/80s were for the PS2, so we had no controllers for our 360), and both of the controllers have worked fine. I won't say there hasn't been some adjustment required... They do handle differently than the old SGs, but they've worked fine.

PsycoCheerio

10-28-2007, 04:55 PM

No problems with my LP...

I think I played for a total of about 14 hours today...

I had a lot of problems with Raining Blood, failed at 94% (a few times)
The Slash and Morello battles were really easy, but Lou on Expert was just riduculous...probably took me a good 45 mintes of attempts trading off with one of my buddies...

Then there is TTFAF....as of now I've gotten all the way to 2%...it's sad...

Overall the note charts are passable, the last tier is really sloppy though.

I think I have the fret board burned into my retina now, so I'm gonna go to bed and hope it goes away by morning...

Rock_Starman

10-28-2007, 04:58 PM

Just another strange complaint to throw out (someone should point this sort of thing out).

Party in hell with Slayer,Metallica,Iron Maiden aaaaannnndddd Eric Johnson?!!? Out of place much? Maybe they should've put Slipknot or Disturbed there instead since they're not quite as out of place.

JackBNimble

10-28-2007, 05:04 PM

I have the Ps3 GH3 and Ive had problems right out of the box.First the damn dongle wouldn't work ,finally the little light turned on and I was able to sync my controller and play.
I didn't find it that bad of a game to play, although there a few times where I was missing notes that I knew I hit.After awhile I started getting use to how it played and it wasn't so bad.
It seemed to me that they upped the difficulty levels a bit.The last few songs on hard looked more like expert,I didn't mind that myself but I can see others might be having problems with that.
So I was on my last song on hard before the encore and the game froze up, so I reset and guess what. I haven't been able to get the F'N dongle to work and with wal-mart sold out they wont give me my money back they will only exchange for another game.F'n dongles,give me a wired guitar so I can play with NO problems.

parastroke7

10-28-2007, 05:21 PM

Actually, the trick to beating Lou is a mixture of luck, and the "cockblock Lou" techinque.

If you survive the first power-up he throws in your face, and get the power up during that phrase, save it.

Use VERY tedious peripheral vision and keep watch on HIS side for HIS powerup to come up, and right before it gets there, use your powerup. You just cockblocked Lou.

If you get lucky, you'll cockblock him TWICE, then a THIRD time. As the end of the song nears, you'll get frequent powerups. Before you know it, Lou will be cockblocked, PERMANTLY. He's a douchebag.

and TTFaF is hard, but not as impossible as Neversoft tried to make it. The beginning is made to where you aren't allowed to mess up very much, so work on nailing that beginning part. If you get that, then you'll probobly make it through the song.

Mournblade77

10-28-2007, 06:18 PM

Played through the game on the PS2 today. My only major complaint has to do with the levels on the tracks. The vocal and drums on a lot of the tracks are completely washed out by the guitar. THis annoys the **** out of me

Apples

10-28-2007, 06:49 PM

Spear_of_Destiny

10-29-2007, 12:34 AM

I'm sorry I don't do impressions. My specialty lies in psychiatry.

Apples

10-29-2007, 08:07 AM

My review was too big for a forum post so I did a blog post. I think it sums up everything very well.

http://community.rockband.com/index.php?do=/public/blog/view/id_580/

tucsonovernite

10-29-2007, 08:42 AM

Yeah apples I'm feelin ya...

As I was playing the terms Organic and Sterile kept popping up in my head....I'll let you guess which term applies to which note charting

Man, the Guitar Hero I'm used to seemed to have it's own gravity field and when i was rocking it would just suck me in to the track....not feeling the love w/ this iteration. Like a cold, dead planet decorated w/ flames cut out of tissue paper....

Ahh, but my expectations were low and I can't say I'm disappointed....It'll do for a few weeks!

Ledgo2

10-29-2007, 08:56 AM

Have you played through co-op career? you have to go through once with someone else and then play them. Once you unlock the songs, I know they're available in quickplay and online modes. Does that make sense?

I see they are in quick play, but I was hoping for them in Career.

jonfitzsimon

10-29-2007, 01:40 PM

the thing i hate about the battle with Lou is that i can play the first 3 minutes of the song fine, but when it gets to the end of the song, that is where it goes crazy and he throws like 3 to 4 power ups at you in a row. Then i have to play the entire song over again just to get to the end where we are both in a do or die mode.

HollywoodBound

10-29-2007, 01:48 PM

THe game is great until the last section of songs. One is freakin impossible at the end with the fast strumming. I can't beat in on Hard. I hope to God if RB has One that they don't screw it up and make it as impossible as GH3 has.

Eman311

10-29-2007, 03:15 PM

One is really easy

Rock_Starman

10-29-2007, 03:19 PM

Anyone know what the reward guitars are? I only know 3:

Easy is a moon. There's a sticker on the back of it that says dark side.
5* Easy is a bat.
Medium is a knight.

robmandark

10-29-2007, 09:13 PM

beating hard is a yojimbo style sword guitar. thats all ive had the stomach to bother doing

DarkSide

10-29-2007, 09:29 PM

Me and a friend played through the co-op career mode, and it was pretty awesome. I'm also on the sixth tier in the solo mode, and I'm really enjoying it. My les paul works perfectly. The feel of the guitar gives Rock Bands strat a run for it's money. However the strats size and looks may put it ahead of the les paul. I was a skeptic of this game, and while I don't think it's quite as fun as GH2, I was pleasantly suprised.

Thrashdragon

10-30-2007, 12:10 AM

The Good:

The Les Paul, when it works (more on that later) is nice. Wireless is awesome.

The songlist is pretty damn good. There's some annoying stuff here and there, but for the most part GHIII has the best songlist (for my tastes, at least) of any game so far. While there were some songs I didn't particularly care for, there were none that I flat out hated.

The forgiving HOPO window, combined with the difficulty of some of the songs, lets you pull off some really amazing stuff.

Battle Mode is amusing and actually kind of fun, although I don't know if I'll bother with it in multiplayer.

The little cutscenes in Campaign are amusing.

There is a bigger than expected selection of new outfits and styles for the characters.

The new venues look good, and a couple of the encore animations are great.

The Bad:

You cannot downstrum (index finger and thumb held as if you're holding a pick, then striking down on the strum bar with the nail of your index finger) with either the XPlorer or the Les Paul. It registers as a double strum. After three games in the series, now is not the time to change how the guitar works.

The chord progressions don't come together as smoothly as they did in the previous games. A few of the songs contain sections that appear designed for difficulty instead of fun.

The Ugly:

By now everyone's heard the myriad of complaints about the Les Paul. The problem lies with the detachable neck...a feature that no one asked for in the first place. It takes very little to cause the neck to not stick flush into the body, at which point some of the frets stop working. My blue fret did not work at first, I fixed it by using canned air to thoroughly clean out the neck and the body, and removing a small sticker at the top of the body. Once I got it working, it worked flawlessly for the rest of the night, and I could beat it up and sling it around with no problem.

The advertising...ugh. Axe Bodyspray has two guitars in the store, and the dancing girls are theirs too. Yes, there are dancing girls.

One of the new characters is a J-Pop girl. Huh?

Overall, I was pleasantly surprised to find that while this is a pretty different game from the others in the series, it was still a lot of fun. I would definitely recommend it.

Malison

10-30-2007, 12:25 AM

I'm rockin my way thru the career on hard (wanna get used to the songs b4 expert) and to tell the truth, I think it's way easier than GH2. Either that or I just got a lot better between the two. Battling the legends is great. I'll give it a 4/5. I like it a lot, but not quite enough to stop rockin with my buds to go play it.

jonfitzsimon

10-30-2007, 01:07 AM

Raider87

10-30-2007, 02:07 AM

I had issues with the down strumming too but it was just a timing issue and I got it all worked out now... actually I find the fast strumming much easier in this game, I don't know if it's the game or the Les Paul

Edit: and the one major thing I hate with this game is the note chart for Cliffs of Dover... everyone else seems to like it but I think it's the dumbest and most awkward chart in the whole game... the HO/PO's are so random and awkwardly placed that it frustrates me every time I play it but it's probably just me who thinks this

Angry_Games

10-30-2007, 07:38 AM

The Bad:

You cannot downstrum (index finger and thumb held as if you're holding a pick, then striking down on the strum bar with the nail of your index finger) with either the XPlorer or the Les Paul. It registers as a double strum. After three games in the series, now is not the time to change how the guitar works.

The chord progressions don't come together as smoothly as they did in the previous games. A few of the songs contain sections that appear designed for difficulty instead of fun.

lol, we had to home-brew the fix:
http://www.guitarhero.com/forums/8/forum_topics/1647

carlnorum

10-30-2007, 09:14 AM

Just thought I would post and chime in that my guitar also is broken - no matter what I do, the electrical connections from the neck to the body are wonky. My green fret is the only one that seems to have a serious problem, but it's next to impossible to play the game while pushing the neck into the body of the guitar to make electrical contact.

Boo.

Oh btw, PS3 bundle, w/ Les Paul.

psyborg

10-30-2007, 06:38 PM

The Lou battle is annoying as hell, I think I'm just gonna give up. I can barely ever get a powerup and one time I did it was the difficulty one, not effecting Lou at all. Shame, I get zero reward for beating the real Guitar Hero game because I can't beat the tacked on boss battle. Theres no learning curve either, Morello was easy as hell, Slash was pretty easy and Lou is impossible.

Played through the game on the PS2 today. My only major complaint has to do with the levels on the tracks. The vocal and drums on a lot of the tracks are completely washed out by the guitar. THis annoys the **** out of me

Agreed, I thought this was stupid as hell, typical game designer saying "hey this is about guitar, lets crank the guitars up!" not realizing how much that f***s up the delicate mixdown musically, idiots.

Under audio turn down the guitar to 8, sfx to 7 and keep the band at 11, sounds much better.

Daveil

10-31-2007, 12:49 AM

Now I have played tthrough the game and was thinking about all the songs that were promised to be in the game and look at what neversoft, redoctane and activision did. They pulled a 989 Stutios worthy game. I mean come on we have seen this happen before, and I was not at all shocked to see it.....

Anyone hear of a little gem of a title Twisted Metal and Twisted Metal 2? Both awesome game made by the corpse company of SingleTrac. Then Sony took that title away from Scott Campbell and David Jaffe, and gave it to the "Thank god it is dead" company of 989 Studios. *

989 Studios went on to nearly ruin the series with titles such as Twisted Metal 3 and 4, but thanks be to the Gods of gaming Scott Campbell and David Jaffe saved the series with Twisted Metal: Small Brawl, Twisted Metal: Black, and Twisted Metal: Head On. Which is where the series will die and forever stay.

So looking at that, it is safe to say that Guitar Hero will slowly pull its self into oblivion while dragging the handful of hard hard fans with it. The rest of us will move on in the Rockband way of life and survive. Rockband is Harmonix's Rouge Trip.

*Now just for those of you that are thinking that I think everything 989 Stutios made was bad, I don't. The good people that used to work for 989 Stutios now work at a company called Santa Monica Studios.

tf5_bassist

10-31-2007, 02:06 AM

So my brother-in-law and I went to the midnight release cause we were bored, and got the game. I also got pwned in the second round of the ever-so-small GH2 tourney I entered. Full well knowing I'd get pwned. For the record, "Tattooed Love Boys" has always been one of my least favorite songs.

Got the game home, the guitar feels AMAZING! Both John and I are stoked, and we start co-op career on expert. Ended up getting stuck on "One" because John can't do the fast machine-gun strumming/chord part after the break in the second half of the song.

Meanwhile, my strum bar is getting more and more loose with each song... Apparently, the LP can't stand up to playing with a pick fairly aggressively as well as the SG can.

Then I decided to start a hard career just to unlock stuff, and did great up until Raining Blood and One. Beat Raining Blood after a couple of practice runs through the mosh part, and failed One two notes from the end. Ended up making it through and fighting Lou like, 15 times. At least I got to read my name all those times when it said "Lou Rocks!!" haha...

Only got one song into expert career before life/work/stuff interfered, and haven't played TtFaF on expert yet, but I will Friday, when the wife leaves for Idaho.

No problems with both LP guitars though, and I guess I'm very happy with that. :D

Apples

10-31-2007, 02:37 AM

I finally beat Lou and damn he was hard. Its pretty much all luck and timing. You have to save your power ups and hit him with them once the song goes into the red on the little "song length meter" that shows how much time you have left.

With the right luck you can actually beat expert Lou on the first powerup. After the player's first powerup, lou goes into a fast picking section on the green note. Use the whammy attack at the start of that streak and it is 100% fatal. Broken string might also work, but that battle is too stupid for me to bother with again.

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