View Full Version : And Now The Exclusivity Wars Begins
Spydas
07-14-2008, 02:59 PM
Van Halen and The Eagles are now exclusive to Guitar Hero while AC/DC and possibly Guns N' Roses are exclusive to Rock Band. Our worst fear has come true and now starts the exclusive wars with bands between Guitar Hero and Rockband. How does everyone feel about this?
CPT BJ
07-14-2008, 03:01 PM
I dont care! Were getting some awesome songs!
mimic
07-14-2008, 03:01 PM
I'm not sure how anyone else feels about this but any band that signs a deal with on or the other in my eyes is pathetic. I will lose any respect for them and will avoid buying their albums in the future.
snoopj123
07-14-2008, 03:02 PM
How do I feel? I feel we end up paying in the end.
I don't have the cash nor the physical space to support all the junk needed for both games. So, I can't afford to follow individual bands around in these games.
Oh well, I'll choose which one ends up providing me the most enjoyment and thus far, I've staked my claim to HMX and Rock Band with the DLC amounts I've purchased.
--j
Apples
07-14-2008, 03:03 PM
Anyone who proselytizes the tired slogan "competition is good" can hush up now... because examples like this prove it is obviously not, especially when the competition can actively hinder/monopolize certain areas of the market.
darthfisto09
07-14-2008, 03:03 PM
i love that we have ACDC, but it kills me to not have Van Halen. All I want is to play Hot For Teacher and Panama.....now I can only dream of that....
chillzatl
07-14-2008, 03:03 PM
the GH franchise has been signing some bands to timed exclusivity for a while. NOthing new there. I heared nothing to make me think Harmonix/MTV is doing the same. The AC/DC track mentioned was obivously exclusive, but he mentioned nothing about the band itself. The same goes for GnR.
HyeJinx1984
07-14-2008, 03:04 PM
I just don't understand the whole exclusivity thing. What can one company possibly offer a musician? These people makes millions and millions of dollars, why would they ever sign an exclusive contract? I just don't get it.
AeroZeppelinSevenfold
07-14-2008, 03:04 PM
I hate it. mostly because those are some of my favorite bands.
at least we get AC/DC. let There be rock is good, but I would like some other songs. preferably ones with Bon Scott.
But as soon as I heard Van Halen exclusive, I screamed. it went something like this:
Activsion: We will have Van Halen ans the Eagles exclusive to Guitar Hero....
Me: NNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
krammkracker
07-14-2008, 03:04 PM
Yea, this is sad to hear...
Flawless
07-14-2008, 03:05 PM
... sucks for us gamers.
tuber85
07-14-2008, 03:05 PM
RB2 > GH:WT
But.... The Eagles = top 5 favorite band of mine :(
mimic
07-14-2008, 03:05 PM
How do I feel? I feel we end up paying in the end.
I don't have the cash nor the physical space to support all the junk needed for both games. So, I can't afford to follow individual bands around in these games.
Oh well, I'll choose which one ends up providing me the most enjoyment and thus far, I've staked my claim to HMX and Rock Band with the DLC amounts I've purchased.
--j
Exactly. These bands don't give a crap about the fans they're hurting. Being exclusive just hurts gamers. If you are trying to get me to shell out money for another game then I will not be shelling out any money to support you at all.
clinton33
07-14-2008, 03:06 PM
It really sucks and I think it is all Guitar Heros fault.
With signing bands to exclusive content it makes people buy their game if they want that band, instead of just choosing the game that people think is the best....because they KNOW they are losing the battle.
So they punch below the belt and sign Aerosmith, Van Halen, and The Eagles to an exclusive deal...
which forces Rockband to do the same with ACDC.
The real losers in this is the consumers, who will now be forced to buy both if they want all of their favorite songs.
I really do not get why a band would sign adeal like this. Regarless of how much money is offered....it seems you could make more buy cutting a deal with both.
thrillhouse987
07-14-2008, 03:09 PM
It sucks. I'll be buying both games regardless, but I want to see some Van Halen in RB, and some AC/DC in GH...
MrMet2087
07-14-2008, 03:09 PM
guns n roses is not exclusive to rock band if they only could get a song from the new swful "GNR" album, cause thats not gnr, its axl and 4 other guys, i think the slash era is exclusive to GH
j_dub_rules
07-14-2008, 03:09 PM
Its not good for anyone...This is only going to get worse, but I'm not gonna be bullied by anyone into getting anything. If either Activision or Harmonix think that exclusivity is gonna make me get their game, they are just wrong...I hope they both realize that nobody wins in this scenario...Its hard to sell either game in that vein.....I mean you could be like "Hey buy GH:WT and you get Van Halen...but No AC/DC" or vice versa. I think its gonna put people off to the games
kanrei
07-14-2008, 03:12 PM
I don't need a different CD player to play CDs from different labels!
Exclusivity only hurts the bands that sign the deals because they are locking themselves out of audience. They are placing money over exposure and, as the saying goes, are being penny wise, but pound foolish. A small gain today for shutting off loyal fans who happened to buy the wrong system is a loser's move. I expect that from Metallica, Aerosmith, and Van Halen, but the Eagles and AC/DC I had hoped were above that.
Eryk13
07-14-2008, 03:12 PM
i love that we have ACDC, but it kills me to not have Van Halen. All I want is to play Hot For Teacher and Panama.....now I can only dream of that....
Agreed. Some Jump and Poundcake wouldn't be bad either. I'd almost pick up GHWT just to play some VH.
strtfghtr
07-14-2008, 03:13 PM
Anyone who proselytizes the tired slogan "competition is good" can hush up now... because examples like this prove it is obviously not, especially when the competition can actively hinder/monopolize certain areas of the market.
I can partially agree to this, but I think this kind of exclusivity will encourage people to buy both GHWT and RB2. I wsa getting both anyway so I see this as almost a positive. I will not get repeated songs on my 2 seperate games.
j_dub_rules
07-14-2008, 03:13 PM
I don't need a different CD player to play CDs from different labels!
Exclusivity only hurts the bands that sign the deals because they are locking themselves out of audience. They are placing money over exposure and, as the saying goes, are being penny wise, but pound foolish. A small gain today for shutting off loyal fans who happened to buy the wrong system is a loser's move. I expect that from Metallica, Aerosmith, and Van Halen, but the Eagles and AC/DC I had hoped were above that.
Metallica and Aerosmith sell out? Really? I simply do not beleive you!!!
Creation88
07-14-2008, 03:15 PM
i hate it. greed ruins it for all of us.
bloozman
07-14-2008, 03:15 PM
AC/DC and GNR > VH and Eagles
kanrei
07-14-2008, 03:15 PM
Metallica and Aerosmith sell out? Really? I simply do not beleive you!!!
Metallica sold out...Aerosmith just realized they were now old men who snorted up all their fortunes and talent and found, much to their surprise, that they were still alive.
tazzmissionx
07-14-2008, 03:16 PM
Now the beginning of the end begins because of exclusivity. And what happened with Metallica? With the new album announcement for GH and the pure lacking of additional content from Metallica makes it seems like there wasn't much of a deal with Harmonix/MTV in the first place or the Activision deal really messed things up.
swings1940
07-14-2008, 03:20 PM
GH:WT = Yankees baseball team.
JediMasterDave
07-14-2008, 03:21 PM
its a kinda ok and sux at the same time long as they never do life long exclusive im ok yeah they got Aerosmith first, but look how they did
with that. I borrowed my friends copy and was very dissappointed.
What I dont like is activision is doing it to up rb. Yet they overprice dlc
and yet also hardly put it out. I understand an exclusive deal for the one
band games am ok with that. But if Eagles and Van Halen did an exclusive
to only be on Gh games that would really suck. Its making the consumer
to HAVE to buy their game if they want to play any of their music. A cheap
shot I think.
I would rather see it be both companies say we want this song first and not lock the catolog out to the other company.
swings1940
07-14-2008, 03:22 PM
GH:WT = Yankees baseball team.
JediMasterDave
07-14-2008, 03:22 PM
its a kinda ok and sux at the same time long as they never do life long exclusive im ok yeah they got Aerosmith first, but look how they did
with that. I borrowed my friends copy and was very dissappointed.
What I dont like is activision is doing it to up rb. Yet they overprice dlc
and yet also hardly put it out. I understand an exclusive deal for the one
band games am ok with that. But if Eagles and Van Halen did an exclusive
to only be on Gh games that would really suck. Its making the consumer
to HAVE to buy their game if they want to play any of their music. A cheap
shot I think.
I would rather see it be both companies say we want this song first and not lock the catolog out to the other company.
xxpigxx
07-14-2008, 03:23 PM
I dunno . . . but I lost some love for the exclusive bands on both sides
JediMasterDave
07-14-2008, 03:23 PM
its a kinda ok and sux at the same time long as they never do life long exclusive im ok yeah they got Aerosmith first, but look how they did
with that. I borrowed my friends copy and was very dissappointed.
What I dont like is activision is doing it to up rb. Yet they overprice dlc
and yet also hardly put it out. I understand an exclusive deal for the one
band games am ok with that. But if Eagles and Van Halen did an exclusive
to only be on Gh games that would really suck. Its making the consumer
to HAVE to buy their game if they want to play any of their music. A cheap
shot I think.
I would rather see it be both companies say we want this song first and not lock the catolog out to the other company.
jsorge
07-14-2008, 03:24 PM
While I think that exclusivity is Activision's fault, I don't think it's really an issue for me at all. Sure, I'd like to have Van Halen, but I already have so many great/excellent songs with more on the way and a diverse taste in music. There really is no reason for me to buy Activision's (inferior in terms of functionality, and arguably songs) product. I'm also sick and tired of their business tactics, but that's been already discussed in multiple threads.
Magnet
07-14-2008, 03:26 PM
Well, Activision started it. I'm not surprised whatsoever that MTV is striking back.
The good news is that the artists RATM and GnR that were exclusive to GH3 are now in RB2's set list. So it seems most of these exclusive bands are likely timed for both sides. Whatever is exclusive this franchise iteration will likely be irrelevant by the next franchise iterations.
I'm just surprised to hear that Van Halen and The Eagles are exclusive. When the first four bands were confirmed for GH:WT, there was a note mentioning that no songs were being revealed because the competition could snag them early on. But two of those four were evidently exclusive, so I'm not sure what's up with the song secrecy there.
For me personally, the music confirmed for these games that aren't tied to exclusivity usually end up being the ones I enjoy most in the game. As big as the names are, it's not the popularity of the bands that get me to buy the game, just the quality of the music itself. I think it'd be nice if we could play AC/DC, Van Halen, and The Eagles in all the games though.
xxpigxx
07-14-2008, 03:26 PM
Forums running slooooowww sorry for dbl post
mimic
07-14-2008, 03:27 PM
its a kinda ok and sux at the same time long as they never do life long exclusive im ok yeah they got Aerosmith first, but look how they did
with that. I borrowed my friends copy and was very dissappointed.
What I dont like is activision is doing it to up rb. Yet they overprice dlc
and yet also hardly put it out. I understand an exclusive deal for the one
band games am ok with that. But if Eagles and Van Halen did an exclusive
to only be on Gh games that would really suck. Its making the consumer
to HAVE to buy their game if they want to play any of their music. A cheap
shot I think.
I would rather see it be both companies say we want this song first and not lock the catolog out to the other company.
DavesterBrrr
07-14-2008, 03:29 PM
People have spent the last week complaining about the possibility of swapping disks to play RB1 songs (which isn't the case thanx to HMX), now we have to contend with having to swap games AND instruments if I want to play Van Halen or AC/DC.. no thanx. Exclusivity may get people to buy both games, but in my case, I'll be sticking with HMX and will not be supporting another music franchise. It will suck to not have certain bands available, but I think this game is beyond one band. There's plenty of great music out there to enjoy and play.
Viewtiful Jason
07-14-2008, 03:30 PM
As much as it pains me, Harmonix needs to make a stand. If they didn't, Activision would wipe the floor with exclusive artists. Blame Activision for being a cumulative douche.
statboyinva
07-14-2008, 03:34 PM
For the first time, I am actually considering buying Guitar Hero along with Rock Band 2. Why? This is my interest in the bands discussed in this thread on a scale of 1 to 10 (ten being must-have):
The Eagles - 10. One of my favorite bands.
Van Halen - 8. I like them very much, and my wife would probably have them rated highest out of the four.
GunsNRoses - 6. Axl's voice took getting used to the first time around. If he sounds better (yeah, right), my interest will increase. It would also increase if we got GnR songs I was familiar with.
AC/DC - negative 5. Who is their lead singer? Nails on a chalkboard? Starscream? Cobra Commander? One of the least talented and most annoyingly grating voices in the history of recorded music (I know that they've had multiple lead singers, all of them BAD). As a vocalist, they offend me. Too bad my wife likes them.
snoopj123
07-14-2008, 03:36 PM
Well, I can say that I do enjoy variety. Even thought I enjoy listening to Van Halen, I'm not going to weep that I can't play it. There's plenty of songs on the new disc to play and I'm sure that we'll be amazed with some of the new RB DLC when it comes out.
For every couple of tracks from one band I want to hear, I've got hundreds of other tracks I can be distracted from and who knows, become and even bigger fan of. God knows my iTunes collection has grown larger simply due to playing one song in a rhythm game and discovering the entire album collection of the band.
--j
BuRn7 CaK3
07-14-2008, 03:53 PM
I dont care! Were getting some awesome songs!
yeah no kidding.
jambimike
07-14-2008, 04:01 PM
This is really a battle that consists of EA vs Activision the two largest software developers around.
The real blame can probably placed on EA as it has been their strategy to get exclusive rights to properties for years now examples are NFL and MLB.
It's their way to weed out competition by taking choice out of the hands of consumers if they want to play games featuring properties such as NFL football.
CysticManatee
07-14-2008, 04:06 PM
Im still waiting to see who gets the Beatles.
j_dub_rules
07-14-2008, 04:25 PM
You can blame Activision or Harmonix all you want, but its the bands who deserve the blame...They chose to be exclusive to one brand for one rea$$$$son or another, so ultimately, they chose to make us the losers. But I hope these are timed exclusives, because its simply non-sensical to alienate half of your potential fanbase
When was this confirmed about Van Halen & Eagles?
Gryffindor
07-14-2008, 04:58 PM
When was this confirmed about Van Halen & Eagles?
During the M$ E3 conference.
For those of you saying that band exclusives stink, I can think of one thing that sucks worse - timed launch exclusives.
jbrocker56
07-14-2008, 05:02 PM
I bet the eagles and van halen is timed exclusive for all we know a van halen song could be one of the 20 songs thats going to be for download on the day rock band 2 is released on the 360
fecaled
07-14-2008, 05:06 PM
it is definitely pretty sad but it goes to show how far the dollar will go with a band.
musicians as a whole would in theory want to get their music out to every available market, however signing "exclusive" with one company limits that market. they must be making a ton of cash on that kind of a deal.
i would love to do some V.H but that aint gonna happen, so i'll just stick with the 80 songs on RB2,
PEACE SELLS BUT WHO'S BUYIN??!
gorillax
07-14-2008, 05:07 PM
I don't like these kind of tactics but Activision started it, Harmonix has no choice but to fight back or risk losing ground to GH
deadendchris
07-14-2008, 05:08 PM
I pretty sure if there is a member of GnR that owns more rights to the band it would be Axl Rose considering how many times they have all sued one another there is not telling but any music from the original GnR they all have rights to use where as the new Stuff will be all Axl/new guys.Also I agree with you guys that the bands signing on with one game or the other sucks ass and is a pretty crappy move.
guns n roses is not exclusive to rock band if they only could get a song from the new swful "GNR" album, cause thats not gnr, its axl and 4 other guys, i think the slash era is exclusive to GH
JcCoppel
07-14-2008, 05:08 PM
what about jimmy hendrix thays sad we dont have it too...
yamerias
07-14-2008, 05:32 PM
I think it sucks, exclusivity is a bad thing, be it console, music or territory.
I will be buying GH:WT and RB2 (Well, I'll get RB when it eventually hits Europe for the PS3) so I'll play all the tracks regardless, but it does seem rather childish and petty that they must have a certain artist exclusive to a certain game....
BathTub
07-14-2008, 05:41 PM
Yeah exclusivity blows!
flop404
07-15-2008, 10:40 AM
it is definitely pretty sad but it goes to show how far the dollar will go with a band.
musicians as a whole would in theory want to get their music out to every available market, however signing "exclusive" with one company limits that market. they must be making a ton of cash on that kind of a deal.
Hasn't necessarily to be about the cash. Bands, especially iconic bands, are quite touchy with the uses of their image.
And they have other things to do than spending time on negotiating and controlling how rythm games use their image.
So, going "exclusive" is a way to guarantee the firm the signed with will treat their image (and their songs) well.
Just look at The Who : Granted, they're not officially "exclusive to Rck Band", but I'd be very surprised if they're featured in GHWT :
The Who chose to invest themselves, and work hand-in-hand with one firm, thus assuring that their artwork will get the treatment it deserved.
We can expect the same superior standards for every "exclusive" bands. AC/DC is clearly associated to Rock Band 2 as part of the "exclusive" deal, which will probably mean that there will be some specifics associated with their songs.
Same with GnR : we might fear its quality, but we'll actually get a new song from a monster band. Not something anecdotic.
Point is : band exclusivity goes with partnership with the franchise, much more than just "cash".
If you had a band, famous enough to be in a position to negotiate exlcusivity, would you rather :
a) Be in every game, with a limited control on the way you're presented, and no specific promotionnal content
or
b) Go exclusive, with some "special treatment" who'd guarantee you that the integration of your songs into a rythm game would be coherent with your career and artistic choices ?
MrSquiggles
07-15-2008, 10:48 AM
OH well I'll just buy all the DLC offered on RB 2 Not sure how the deals are stated but if it's like record sales it's a percentage of total sales. So If a band wants to do a deal to just be on RB OR GH then fine they will not get and of my $$ as I'm not buying GH There will be enough to keep me busy on Bockband.
MrSquiggles
07-15-2008, 10:52 AM
If you had a band, famous enough to be in a position to negotiate exclusivity, would you rather :
a) Be in every game, with a limited control on the way you're presented, and no specific promotional content
or
b) Go exclusive, with some "special treatment" who'd guarantee you that the integration of your songs into a rhythm game would be coherent with your career and artistic choices ?
Why not go with any game the would give you "special treatment" i.e. a record label Could you imagine a song that would only be release for the ipod?
Or the Zune? or only play on a Sony CD Player?
PlanetHill
07-15-2008, 10:52 AM
They may be exclusive for GH:WT...but they won't be exclusive forever.
The sheer numbers and success of RB2 will make their marketing & management think twice for Round 3 in 14 months.
Julio_Strikes_Back
07-15-2008, 10:55 AM
I think everyone here could see it coming. All Activision could care less if their developers made a good game, all they care about is that it makes money. Van Halen and The Eagles = money. Harmonix would be dead meat if they didn't sign on big exclusives like AC/DC. But in the end it sucks, it's getting to the point where I might as well have bought a real instrument considering all the cash I've spent on both games.
Monkeymascot
07-15-2008, 10:58 AM
GH:WT = Yankees baseball team.
How is that a bad thing?:p
Bakkster
07-15-2008, 11:41 AM
As much as this doesn't bode well, I doubt that it will be as bad as it seems. Let me get this out there first: I think exclusivity is a bad thing for the genre.
That said, I think the list of bands each group wants will vastly outnumber the bands which have signed exclusivity deals. Just having a couple of bands that you can't reach isn't going to kill anything. The genre has survived without AC/DC or the Beatles up til now, it will continue to survive even with a few deals like this.
The only thing that could kill the genre is entire labels declaring exclusivity. This not only takes large chunks of music away, but it removes the artists themselves from making the choice on who uses their music.
willthegreat
07-15-2008, 11:52 AM
They may be exclusive for GH:WT...but they won't be exclusive forever.
The sheer numbers and success of RB2 will make their marketing & management think twice for Round 3 in 14 months.
If we learned anything from the Final Fantasy XIII announcement yesterday, it's that exclusives don't last forever. I agree, if Van Halen/The Eagles see that they can make a few more million dollars down the line, they will come to Rock Band.
Lizard_King
07-15-2008, 12:33 PM
yeah van halen was in my top 3 bands for RB, and to hear them selling out is painful:
RedOctane: Van Halen exclusive to Guitar Hero
Me: fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucccccccccccccccccc cccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeee
dman7529
07-15-2008, 12:36 PM
Anyone who proselytizes the tired slogan "competition is good" can hush up now... because examples like this prove it is obviously not, especially when the competition can actively hinder/monopolize certain areas of the market.
I have to disagree with you here (first time for that! :) ), but will explain why. Competition is a good thing, and leads to revolutions in what ever industry it is taking place, software and hardware especially!
However, exclusivity of a band in a rhythm game is not competition, by my definition; its marketing. The competition between the Rock Band platform and GH: WT is going to be determined by gameplay. What modes are available locally? What modes are available online? How are the songs charted? What other features are available.
Here's a quote from my blog (currently the only post in it...)
I decided to do the first post on what I think about exclusive bands in rhythm games. When I first heard about Aerosmith exclusively signing with Activision/Neversoft, I was immediately "distraught" by what this meant in relation to Rock Band. I have really enjoyed playing the drums in Rock Band, and have enjoyed playing Train Kept a Rollin' on medium and hard. So of course, my initial reaction was that I would never get to play songs like Sweet Emotion, Love in an Elevator, Janie's Got a Gun, and several more on the drums. :(
I posted my concerns on the ScoreHero forums, with hope that I would get some type of response from one of the Neversoft employees who are members there, but only got local "guru's" "insights."
So what do I think about exclusive bands in rhythm games? I think it blows! Exclusive songs for one game or the other from a band is good, because it gives the games fans at least something from the band in question. For a band to exclusively sign with a rhythm game developer, basically conveys to that bands fans, "Hey, you wanna play our songs in your little plastic instrument games, you have to buy this game . If you don't like it, then go screw yourself!"
I have been a fan of Aerosmith's since I saw the video for Walk This Way by Run DMC featuring Aerosmith on MTV. I immediately went out with some birthday money and picked up some of their older cassettes and albums. I picked up Guitar Hero: Aerosmith and was rather disappointed. There were more obscure and older songs picked from Aerosmith's extensive career than you could shake a plastic guitar at! I did enjoy the Behind the Scenes videos before the different tiers, but it was the same "broken" gameplay from Guitar Hero 3. If I do get GH: World Tour, I hope Activision releases several Aerosmith DLC packs... Ok enough tangents...
My point is that if a band does sign exlusively to particular game series, they risk the chance of alienating their fans. I pray the news that Metallica has signed on exclusively with Activision/Neversoft is a hoax (especially after playing GH: Aerosmith...) But if it's not...
My only hope is that more bands see the situation for what it is, and refrain from signing exlusively...
Exclusive Songs = OK!
Exclusive signing to a game series = Major FAIL!
That's my two pesos anyway....
strikeman99
07-15-2008, 01:20 PM
I have to disagree with you here (first time for that! :) ), but will explain why. Competition is a good thing, and leads to revolutions in what ever industry it is taking place, software and hardware especially!
However, exclusivity of a band in a rhythm game is not competition, by my definition; its marketing. The competition between the Rock Band platform and GH: WT is going to be determined by gameplay. What modes are available locally? What modes are available online? How are the songs charted? What other features are available.
Here's a quote from my blog (currently the only post in it...)
I just want to add, competition is good in this regard. HMX making DLC forward compatible is forcing GH to either follow suit or suffer. I am hoping that many people ask Activision in the coming months if they are planning to make their DLC and game songs compatible in the future. They cannot even claim it isn't possible because "RB does it, why can't they"?
I've thought about purchasing WT, but if the game will be completely obsolete in a year or two, it is not happening.
svartikins
07-15-2008, 01:25 PM
The rhythm game industry is slowly becoming a popular medium for artists. And, if as HMX wants, platforms in itself. With platforms come exclusivity. In the world of videogame platforms, it's taken this many generations for "exclusivity" to become almost obsolete. Yes, we still have the Nintendo/Sony/MS exclusives, but not nearly as many as there were in the past.
It's unfortunate, but exclusivity was bound to happen. I don't see why, because the artists could have more money if they signed on to both platforms. It has to get worse before it gets better.
bierfaht
07-15-2008, 01:27 PM
considering that i could not give 2 poops about van halen,aerosmith or the eagles, i am happy that their spots in rock band will hopefully be taken up by better bands.
however, if GH starts getting sublime, etc as exclusives, then the worrying stops.
as of now, big advantage to HMX!
FLYmeatwad
07-15-2008, 01:44 PM
As long as we have Dylan, Rush, and The Who, I'm good.
BathTub
07-15-2008, 05:38 PM
Why not go with any game the would give you "special treatment" i.e. a record label Could you imagine a song that would only be release for the ipod?
Or the Zune? or only play on a Sony CD Player?
Bands are doing exactly that, there are plenty of tracks you can only buy through iTunes, I believe the Donnas track in RB2 is one of those.
dgator783
07-15-2008, 11:24 PM
and GH3 gets Metallicas new album when its released.....:-( as reported on yahoo
lankyyanky
07-15-2008, 11:35 PM
I don't need a different CD player to play CDs from different labels!
Exclusivity only hurts the bands that sign the deals because they are locking themselves out of audience. They are placing money over exposure and, as the saying goes, are being penny wise, but pound foolish. A small gain today for shutting off loyal fans who happened to buy the wrong system is a loser's move. I expect that from Metallica, Aerosmith, and Van Halen, but the Eagles and AC/DC I had hoped were above that.
The Eagles are probably the worst with this. Their last CD was exclusive to Walmart. They also pretty much started the ridiculous concert ticket price thing.
packerfan8675309
07-15-2008, 11:39 PM
screw activison. i prefer the bands that are our headliners more but still I'm very sad about no Van Halen
OKGost
07-16-2008, 12:17 AM
Indeed, it's a sad time for the music-game scene when exclusivity wars errupt. But, business is business, sadly. MTV/HMX have to fight back. Even if GH gains exclusivity for some of my favorite band, I still feel that Rock Band will be the superior product, and therefore will retain my loyalty (I'm one of millions of fans, but a very passionate/dedicated fan).
EDIT: Happy 200th post to me! :) *blows out the candles*
VAmpForgotten
07-16-2008, 12:30 AM
I Want The Beatles On Rockband!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OakTea
07-16-2008, 12:34 AM
If I was a musical artist, I'd whore out my songs to stuff like this. And not just for the money. I just think it'd be an awesome idea. Let the people pretend to be playing my instruments. I don't care, they'll be having fun.
Or dreading my songs coming up in random setlists for whatever reason. Hehehe, even better. :D
Not really though.
JediMasterDave
07-16-2008, 12:48 AM
I agree if i had music talents and played instruments.
One I would not look down on these games.
I would know even with tons of practice not anyone and everyone
could grasp and do it. And most artists say what they love most is
for their fans that connect with their music. Thats what these games
do. It lets their fans connect even more cause they feel like they are
playing the songs they love.
Plus games are a high form of entertainment. And cheaper than most
concerts. Its easier to gain fans who play or hear your music in a game
cause its there than win fans who only listen to music on specific radio
stations or only buy certain music. Plus once intrest is sparked they
might download music or even check out a concert.
I never heard Paramore and downloaded crushcrushcrush
fell in love with their sound and was lucky to catch their show
and now im a fan. Had I not seen them through Rb I doubt I would
ever have given them a listen.
yelladog32
07-16-2008, 12:57 AM
Anyone who proselytizes the tired slogan "competition is good" can hush up now... because examples like this prove it is obviously not, especially when the competition can actively hinder/monopolize certain areas of the market.
Completely agree with this statement.
I've been against exclusivity from the beginning because it only hurts us, the consumer, for games like this.
Lithium_666
07-16-2008, 12:58 AM
guns n roses had a song on GH3
KaYotiX
07-16-2008, 01:30 AM
I say screw the bands/labels that went exclusive. The gamers are the ONLY ppl who suffer....
Angry_Games
07-16-2008, 01:31 AM
it's definitely sad that these 'exclusive' deals are done. Look what happened to NFL games when EA locked up Madden...now we get no choice.
Not everyone is going to be able to afford both RB and GH...I can't understand why we can't have our cake and eat it too...but then I realize money rules everything unfortunately (I guess that's cool...maybe we'd all feel different with offers of mega-cash or potential for mega-cash flying in our faces)
kiggidykev
07-16-2008, 01:32 AM
I'm crossing my fingers that the Guitar Hero:World Tour announcement of Doors songs WITHOUT mention of exclusivity means RB will see some as DLC.
dady5000
07-16-2008, 02:19 AM
Exclusivity sucks.
RockBandRocker
07-16-2008, 02:22 AM
I Want The Beatles On Rockband!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
^ This would bone Activision so far up their a** that they'll be feeling it LONG after Harmonix is done. :):D
VAmpForgotten
07-16-2008, 02:24 AM
lol i know.
i've heard rumors that Guitar hero was trying to get the rights.
i hope not.
RB all the way!!!
(even though they stripped my Wii version =( )
RockBandRocker
07-16-2008, 02:26 AM
^ Yeah, but Wii Rock Band still got rated a 4 out of 5 on X-Play.
GH: On Tour & GH: Aerosmith each got a 3 out of 5 rating from them.
I can't wait for the fall. I want to hear their final verdicts on RB2 vs. GH: WT. :)
VAmpForgotten
07-16-2008, 02:48 AM
duh!
cause GH sucks.
=)
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