Harmonix says 360 version finished first...

[MartyMcFly77]

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/888/888785p1.html

Yet IGN goes on to say....

"And there's more. Harmonix actually wanted to toss in 100 tracks total for the disk, but couldn't get them all in one time to ship for Xbox 360 by September."

Looks like a rush job to me, and im not talking about the band.

[Hokonoso]

not another QQ post, free dlc is free dlc, whether it is dlc or on disc matters not.

also to those complaining bout the bands in the game, these dont matter as the DLC packs are going to have all our favorite songs (they make more money this way) if they gave us everything we wanted for free with the game then we would not buy any DLC, simple logic.

[madfalcon]

I like my 360, but im starting to hate microsoft, they need to control everything it seems. If theres one company i hope goes bankrupt, its them, before they take over the world :o

[Nobak]

I like my 360, but im starting to hate microsoft, they need to control everything it seems. If theres one company i hope goes bankrupt, its them, before they take over the world :o

The Google Grid begs to differ ;)

[4-Play]

that just means they don't have all the legal issues taken care of for the tracks they wanted to throw on. And this way they get people use to getting online and looking for songs to download. You have to train you customers.

[deadendchris]

The people at Xbox seem to make some stupied calls but hey atleast we get the songs free maybe they will just go ahead and put them onto the ps3 rock band that would be a slap in the face of Xbox tough so I guess that wont happen anyways set list looks great.

[KaYotiX]

wow ppl will actually ***** and complain about anything......

[DontShutTheGate]

If you ask me, the fact that they couldn't get the extra 20 tracks on the disc in time and instead decided to release them afterward for free is pretty fking badass, 99% of companies wouldn't give two craps about that and would charge for subsequent songs.

[DethBoxx]

I wish all the songs were downloadable instead of on disc. Then you could choose not to download certain songs, for example GnR.

[MrHartgrave]

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/888/888785p1.html

Yet IGN goes on to say....

"And there's more. Harmonix actually wanted to toss in 100 tracks total for the disk, but couldn't get them all in one time to ship for Xbox 360 by September."

Looks like a rush job to me, and im not talking about the band.

Well then...I'm going to assume that the PS3 users might just end up with 100 songs on the disc and the XBOXERS will get to DL them for free as it has been stated officially. Cool...I like not getting the "rushed" version...:)

[HuckleCat]

I like my 360, but im starting to hate microsoft, they need to control everything it seems. If theres one company i hope goes bankrupt, its them, before they take over the world :o

Why? because MS no longer has to wait for games like Final Fantasy and they're on the opposite end of the exclusive whipping stick? Relax. MS is just making Sony eat the same helping of crap that MS had to eat during the PS2/Xbox days.

[FlameSama1]

It never ceases to amaze me how much *****ing people can do.

Bravo, OP.

[MF-PO'd]

Well then...I'm going to assume that the PS3 users might just end up with 100 songs on the disc and the XBOXERS will get to DL them for free as it has been stated officially. Cool...I like not getting the "rushed" version...:)

We SHOULD get the 20 DLC songs included on our disc. If they are free anyway, why not? That Blu-Ray disc must have tons free space to burn. It's a nice crumb to throw PS3 owners, and it's a nice marketing tool to be able to advertise that many songs included in the game.

[Hajime]

Well then...I'm going to assume that the PS3 users might just end up with 100 songs on the disc and the XBOXERS will get to DL them for free as it has been stated officially. Cool...I like not getting the "rushed" version...:)

You got the delayed version last time, too, and that didn't seem to work out too well for you PS3 types =)

[erickOnasis412]

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/888/888785p1.html

Yet IGN goes on to say....

"And there's more. Harmonix actually wanted to toss in 100 tracks total for the disk, but couldn't get them all in one time to ship for Xbox 360 by September."

Looks like a rush job to me, and im not talking about the band.

And why exactly was this thread necessary?

[yelladog32]

wow ppl will actually ***** and complain about anything......

Yeah...I mean, if they break the deadline to get those songs done, checked for bugs, redone for any problems and such, this game will be delayed several months. :P



I like my 360, but im starting to hate microsoft, they need to control everything it seems. If theres one company i hope goes bankrupt, its them, before they take over the world :o

Europe won't allow them. ;)

[killer_roach]

From what has been seen in the past with free songs, I wonder what percentage of RB2 360 owners will actually download these extra 20 songs...

[Eman311]

Well then...I'm going to assume that the PS3 users might just end up with 100 songs on the disc and the XBOXERS will get to DL them for free as it has been stated officially. Cool...I like not getting the "rushed" version...:)
you're getting the same exact game.

[MrHartgrave]

you're getting the same exact game.

and just how do you know that for sure?....Are you the one selling me the game? Is the Wii version the "same game"? Is the european version the "same game"? Is the current PS3 RB1 the same game as the XBOX version of RB1? We got all kinds of extra bugs and missing features (voice chat namely)....so yea....I think we might end up with a different RB2...I just hope it will be different in a good way...:P

[MartyMcFly77]

FACT: On-disc songs have crowd sing-alongs.

FACT: DLC does NOT have crowd sing-alongs.

Is this gonna change for Rock Band 2? Doubt it.

Your losing that feature on the twenty "free" songs.

Had they just waited till all versions were equal...

[Eman311]

The ps3 and 360 versions will be identical....

I could possibly see the ps3 version having the 20 extra songs on disc (with blu-ray and all).

Otherwise I don't see how many changes they could possibly make in the few months between releases.

[Froggy]

Does it really matter people?!?
The songs will be for Download on day 1 and they will be integrated seamlessly in all game types. if you close your eyes while doing it, it will seem like they are on the disc anyway ;)

[xsoulbrothax]

FACT: On-disc songs have crowd sing-alongs.

FACT: DLC does NOT have crowd sing-alongs.

Is this gonna change for Rock Band 2? Doubt it.

Your losing that feature on the twenty "free" songs.

Had they just waited till all versions were equal...

We don't know that this is being changed in RB2 or not, especially being a small detail that many wouldn't notice. :) I'm betting that between the two versions they'll be exactly the same, whether they all have singalongs or they all don't.

As far as the news itself... my god, Harmonix is just awesome. I love you guys. And giving credit where it's due, I suppose MTV/Viacom are great for letting you guys work your positive influence on music games.

[Frederf]

If the last 20 songs are the only thing holding up release and HMX wants to ship most of the game now and have us DL the last 20 songs later when they are finished then that's cool with me. Nothing "rushed" about it. It's called phased delivery and it allows the customer to get their hands on the majority of the product as early as possible.

Harmonix is doing us a favor by doing this although I do hope that "crowd singalongs" are not sacrificed by making the switch from on-disk to DLC.

Personally I didn't know it was a time issue but a physical space issue.

[T-Hybrid]

wow ppl will actually ***** and complain about anything......
Pretty much. Give people 20 free songs and they just whine that they couldn't have them sooner.

Give them 100 songs on disc, they'd just whine that they didn't like 10 of them or something.

[TheRocker]

Son of a B... If its done.. then they could had finish the Playstation version in time for a simultaneous release.. but no.. Microsoft had to be a bigger dick and screw us over..

[metalfenix]

Oh come on, people complain about everything. You are getting first RB2, with all this awesome setlist and features and still complaining about the "rush version?"or not getting the 20 songs directly? Is well known that HMX treats the 360 differently from the others, including PS3 so I don't know why you complain now.

We the PS3 users don't know when we get our version, or (most importantly to me) if we'll get ALL the features on the 360 version, including fixes that should be on the buggy RB1 like wiggly arrow glitch in vocals, song list lag fixed, voice chat support or trophy support, I don't want to talk about the other platforms, being wii the most neglected one, without a single online mode. Some people still have trust on harmonix regarding the PS3 version, me, seeing how they didn't addressed the issues above mentioned, I'm not expecting too much on harmonix in this one.

So just relax and enjoy Rock Band 2 360 users!!

[navajonas]

I for one hope that the 20 extra songs are on the game disc for the PS3 release. Having them on the disc instead of the hard drive means I can use up the space they would have taken for an additional 20 DLC tracks. :-) 60GB is not a whole lot when ya use the PS3 for other things beside Rock Band.

[zztodd]

I think DL'ing the last 20 songs is a brilliant business decision! Why you ask?

Because how many times have you played people online and they dont have ANY DLC? My god people spend some money on DLC! This way it will get people out of box, and into the net, and see what they are missing. Brilliant!

[monkeyfish]

I think DL'ing the last 20 songs is a brilliant business decision! Why you ask?

Because how many times have you played people online and they dont have ANY DLC? My god people spend some money on DLC! This way it will get people out of box, and into the net, and see what they are missing. Brilliant!

I agree with this guy. :) This'll put 90% of the poor into contact with new songs that have no reason not to be downloaded unless you're playing without a hard drive for some stupid reason. It's basically adding 20 more songs to the main setlist!

[Frederf]

Pretty much. Give people 20 free songs and they just whine that they couldn't have them sooner.

Give them 100 songs on disc, they'd just whine that they didn't like 10 of them or something.

I think people are missing the point. These aren't "free DLC" they are disk songs that bought when you bought Rock Band 2 except they weren't done at the time RB2 was released so you got them later.

It's like if Rock Band 1 had 10 songs on the original disk and 2 months later had 48 "free DLC. It's not free it's stuff you paid for that shipped a little later. :rolleyes: People don't have objectivity. This is why things cost $49.99 instead of $50.00 cuz most people are clueless.

[Frederf]

With the way DLC is I take my entire system over to a friend's house. Most people I know don't have an Xbox 360 and resyncing wireless new controllers (and back) as well as needing to internet authenticate all the DLC is a pain. I'm already moving 3 large bags/cases when I move take Rock Band "on the road" what's one more case for the 360?

Yeah and I totally agree that this is a nice way to treat the customers. Most people would like 75% now and 25% later instead of 0% now and 100% later.

[gmagnus]

I think people are missing the point. These aren't "free DLC" they are disk songs that bought when you bought Rock Band 2 except they weren't done at the time RB2 was released so you got them later.


You're missing the point that they could have easily charged for these. It already ships with more songs then any previous GH game or RB. They never promised 100, so no one can complain about being shorted. They could have just advertised 20 songs on release day just like they did with the large amount of DLC when RB was released.

[Rokkstar]

Dude free music! lol

I'm so appreciating it.

But a "rushed" job? Come on Harmonix money eating your feet?

[CaptainSpeedy]

I think people are missing the point. These aren't "free DLC" they are disk songs that bought when you bought Rock Band 2 except they weren't done at the time RB2 was released so you got them later.

It's like if Rock Band 1 had 10 songs on the original disk and 2 months later had 48 "free DLC. It's not free it's stuff you paid for that shipped a little later. :rolleyes: People don't have objectivity. This is why things cost $49.99 instead of $50.00 cuz most people are clueless.

But that would only be true if you have to purchase RB2 to get the 20 free songs, as HMX have said before there is no RB 1 or 2 DLC only RB.

So if it is available to everyone it is free as no purchase is nessecary.

[Catalytic]

Dude free music! lol

I'm so appreciating it.

But a "rushed" job? Come on Harmonix money eating your feet?

Competition might be ... the rhythm game genre is oversaturated, there is an overabundance of peripherals; while it would be hasty to say the "band" game is a winner take all competition, I don't think it is far from it. By releasing RB2 ahead of GHWT, Harmonix ensures the continued support of its already installed base and hopes to take away a chunk of the GH crowd, since most consumers won't buy both games and all of the peripherals.

[Han Daimond]

There's a lot more heavy metal this time around and the music from the '60s is better focused (and lacking the horror that is Green Tides and High Grass).


wat .

[Frederf]

You're missing the point that they could have easily charged for these.

They could have just as easily left out the microphone from Rock Band 1 Special Edition. Does that mean that people got a free microphone when they bought their bundle?


But that would only be true if you have to purchase RB2 to get the 20 free songs, as HMX have said before there is no RB 1 or 2 DLC only RB.

So if it is available to everyone it is free as no purchase is nessecary.

Wow really? I hadn't thought of that. I can't remember if you need game X to download DLC for game X using Xbox Live! Marketplace.

[nicholasenj]

ok, anyone that complains about 20 FREE tracks is a douchebag. period.

[LoopyChew]

But that would only be true if you have to purchase RB2 to get the 20 free songs, as HMX have said before there is no RB 1 or 2 DLC only RB.

So if it is available to everyone it is free as no purchase is nessecary.

This.

This is exactly what I was thinking when I heard about "20 free DLC songs"--the fact that HMX has stated that all DLC is cross-compatible, that there is no discrete RB1 or RB2 DLC.

This suggests that, in the end, anyone who has either Rock Band game for 360/PS3 will benefit, and that--assuming EU users have to wait until the next calendar year for the game AGAIN--people across the globe can have a very [DENOMINATIONAL_HOLIDAY_GREETING_HERE].

If that's the end result of a supposed "rush job," I wouldn't mind seeing more "rush jobs."

[papasmurf427]

And, I believe that us PS3 users will be able to download those 20 songs early :) and we'll get our taste of RB2 in september as well!

[PlanetHill]

wow ppl will actually ***** and complain about anything......

LOL. Exactly. Now the game is here TOO fast! They rushed it out the door!

:p:p:p

[princeofcups777]

If you ask me, the fact that they couldn't get the extra 20 tracks on the disc in time and instead decided to release them afterward for free is pretty fking badass, 99% of companies wouldn't give two craps about that and would charge for subsequent songs.

Companies do not have feelings.

The number of songs is important in relation to the number of songs in GHWT when the reviews and comparisons start appearing. Having an additional 20 free songs helps them out in that regard.

[killer_roach]

Companies do not have feelings.

The number of songs is important in relation to the number of songs in GHWT when the reviews and comparisons start appearing. Having an additional 20 free songs helps them out in that regard.

Except that most reviewers lack the initiative to do anything other than plop the disk in. :)

[tuber85]

FACT: On-disc songs have crowd sing-alongs.

FACT: DLC does NOT have crowd sing-alongs.

Is this gonna change for Rock Band 2? Doubt it.

Your losing that feature on the twenty "free" songs.

Had they just waited till all versions were equal...

FAIL

This was proved wrong today.