Anyone else disappointed with the omission of KISS in RB2?

[Firehouse66]

:( I thought RB2 would contain at least one KISS song, but was sadly mistaken. It's obvious that the band has somewhat of a working relationship with RB, since DRC was included on the RB1 disc and Calling Dr. Love was released as DLC. I was half expecting to see a classic KISS tune on the RB2 disc. Hopefully, there'll be a KISS song pack or even an entire album future DLC. I can dream, right?

[Han Daimond]

There's a feature called "Download Content"....

[Sarge51]

We got Detroit Rock City... The only other song left that's any count is "I Wanna Rock And Roll All Night" but it HASSSSS to be a master. GH3 just... just killed rock and roll with their version.

Oh, and Strutter. :]

[ShiftyPimp]

We got Detroit Rock City... The only other song left that's any count is "I Wanna Rock And Roll All Night" but it HASSSSS to be a master. GH3 just... just killed rock and roll with their version.

Oh, and Strutter. :]

Kiss - Meh.

[Sarge51]

KISS is up there with ACDC as Rock Gods. Come on HMX, wtf is wrong with you. :)

[Firehouse66]

There's a feature called "Download Content"....

Yeah, I know. That's what I said at the end of my post.

[packerfan8675309]

I would be happy with their inclusion but its not something that upsets me

[FLYmeatwad]

I am personally hard core excited that there's no KISS in Rock Band 2. I mean if I wanted to listen to the same line repeated over and over again with the occasional break I'd turn the Milkshake song on. Detroit Rock City was the closest to a good KISS song I've heard in a video game, and even that song was pretty bad.

[Fausttt]

KISS is up there with ACDC as Rock Gods. Come on HMX, wtf is wrong with you. :)

kiss is up there with talentless slobs that use stage antics and over the top presentation to disguise the fact that they suck horribly. There is no denying their shows are fun as hell! but cmon, even fans have to admit they really arent THAT good.

[Ryyke]

I'm not disappointed because DRC is one of the most boring guitar songs on RB1.

[Rhystic_1]

Actually I'm very pleased they ARE NOT in the game...

[Catch-22]

I'd say I'm no more upset with no Kiss then I am with no BoC, Rolling Stones, and Deep Purple.

[FultonPub]

detroit rock city is the least played song on my rb1 disc and i have played calling dr love exactly 1 time...

im fine with no kiss being in rb2 at this point. their songs just arent fun to play.

[twinkiebeyond]

Not in the least. Sorry.

[Mycool]

I totally agree with the original post. The first thing I said when I saw the RB2 track list was "Where's KISS"?!? To say that KISS songs are not fun to play, is to not know what fun is. I would purchase the entire KISS catalog if made available as DLC.

[Voodoo]

I'd like old kiss...Deuce,Black Diamond,Cold gin,let me go rock and roll...and the latest one..Psycho-circus.

[JCrew_FL]

kiss is up there with talentless slobs that use stage antics and over the top presentation to disguise the fact that they suck horribly. There is no denying their shows are fun as hell! but cmon, even fans have to admit they really arent THAT good.

You are right, they weren't (aren't) great musicians, but they are still a huge part of rock history due to their length of stay and they great persona they have with the makeup and stageshow that was and is like no other. AC/DC is another icon, but could Bonn Scott or Brian Johnson sing? Aerosmith, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd..... they're all subject to personal taste.

I say hell yeah, we've got a Who DLC, where's my KISS DLC? I'll be the first to don the demon face paint, play bass and sing Firehouse..... wooooo whoooooo yeah.....

[grumpypariah]

yeah, i'd be stoked for a DLC pack.

Rock N Roll All Night
Love Gun
Deuce
God of Thunder
Cold Gin
Psycho Circus

[synA7X]

The band themselves said they cared more about their stage performance and costumes then their music...so I have no respect for them at all (and it helps that they dont have ONE song that I enjoy)...so I'm more than happy with no KISS in RB2

[JCrew_FL]

detroit rock city is the least played song on my rb1 disc and i have played calling dr love exactly 1 time...

im fine with no kiss being in rb2 at this point. their songs just arent fun to play.

I guess that must be a KISS song you and the boys are playing in that video on your youtube site then....... WOW what a fun lovin' crowd! :D:rolleyes:

[strtfghtr]

I think Dr. Love is sweet on expert drums...the beat gets stuck in my head all day.

I'd like some more KISS DLC, God of thunder, Rock and Roll All night, maybe Love gun

[Smoky_McAshtray]

KISS = one of (if not the most) overrated band in rock.

That and Gene Simmons is quite possibly the most deluded person on the planet. How long will it be before we can buy authentic KISS toe nail clippings?

[Sgt Pepper]

I'd say I'm no more upset with no Kiss then I am with no BoC, Rolling Stones, and Deep Purple.

*complete agreement*

[princeofcups777]

kiss is up there with talentless slobs that use stage antics and over the top presentation to disguise the fact that they suck horribly. There is no denying their shows are fun as hell! but cmon, even fans have to admit they really arent THAT good.

I prefer GWAR. They do the stage show much better. And they're better musicians.

[darknessmoon]

The band themselves said they cared more about their stage performance and costumes then their music...so I have no respect for them at all (and it helps that they dont have ONE song that I enjoy)...so I'm more than happy with no KISS in RB2

If you can kindly direct me to where I can find said quote, I would love you forever. I truly dislike KISS in every way, shape, or form... I don't doubt their shows must have kicked ass, but their music just isn't all that good...

I'm more disappointed with the fact that Muse didn't make it on the bill for RB2. :( But then again, there's still those 20 songs we don't know of yet, and there's always DLC, so I'm hopeful. :D

[MD333]

Nope, because KISS are quite frankly mindless attemtps at music. Although I must admit they have awesome guitars. For example at Download when KISS started paying people were flocking away from the main stage

[Joatmon]

yes, disapointed, need kiss alive 2 as an album dlc

[Desensitized]

If you can kindly direct me to where I can find said quote, I would love you forever.I thought it was common knowledge?

The Replacements (who made this game, lol) did a straight cover of Black Diamond on their album 'Let It Be'. Best joke song ever.

[GreenGrassAndy]

I prefer GWAR. They do the stage show much better. And they're better musicians.

Agreed. So where is Sick of You? I want that as DLC!

[darknessmoon]

I thought it was common knowledge?

The Replacements (who made this game, lol) did a straight cover of Black Diamond on their album 'Let It Be'. Best joke song ever.

Well, the thing is that I have a friend who is a HUGE KISS fan, and I can't just go up to him and say that I read on the RB forums that "The band themselves said they cared more about their stage performance and costumes then their music..."

I want some proof to back up how "great" KISS is, you know? :p

[Transbrak]

kiss is some goofs in makeup that make mediocre music....good riddance i say

[Knife 609]

I'm elated there's no kiss. I hate that crappy band. Just my opionion, but count me under the "good riddance" crowd.

[PacoL250]

We got Detroit Rock City... The only other song left that's any count is "I Wanna Rock And Roll All Night" but it HASSSSS to be a master. GH3 just... just killed rock and roll with their version.

Oh, and Strutter. :]

I wonder if we'll get "Strutter" in that extra 20 DLC that HMX is supposed to released around RB 2's release. :)

More KISS is always good, but as long as we can transfer what we have, I'll be happy.

[madcow36]

There's a feature called "Download Content"....

LOL!



and yeah, Heaven's On Fire would be cool... idk:confused:

[AgainstOne]

i would like more KISS as well

[Hungryfreak]

kiss is some goofs in makeup that make mediocre music....good riddance i say

Agreed. I always hated Kiss.

[Hurricane274]

No, just no......KISS is overratted

[Calibos]

KISS is overrated and their musical abilities are nothing to brag about. However, since childhood, I've been fond of them.

That being said, I'd love to see Shock Me in this game.

[ScottyTheBody]

Just look for it in GH:WT.

[Serpentd]

Hell yes we need some more KISS! Like the pre '79 stuff preferably. Double Platinum would be a killer album (actual double album). With KISS, your either a life time fan or not really a fan at all, so I can understand why lots of poeple don't get into them.

KISS was what got me into rock at age 9 a long time ago..1977-78 or so. So they are very special to me. Yes I agree they aren't top musician, well Paul and Gene aren't anyway. Peter and Ace did have talent. Not to mention Eric Carr and some of the other guitarists. These guys are idols to a lot of bands out there still. Pantera, Subastian Bach of Skid Row come to mind.

Anyway, I don't care if they are on the disc or not, I do want some DLC from them for sure. And it has to be their top songs as a few here have already mentioned. Pretty much anything off of Double Platinum or Alive II. So a BIG YES for KISS...sometime soon!!!!!!!!:)

[JediMasterDave]

yeah im not upset they arent on the disc
but i wouldnt mind a few more tracks as dlc

[BigMonkE]

Still got those 20 songs.

[Kelvis]

Not really too disappointed they're not on the disc, but would love to see more KISS DLC...Rip It Out, Shock Me, Watchin' You, She, Parasite would be great.


KISS are rock legends, haters can't change that.

[ricflairandy]

I was hoping cor crazy nights

[CaptainFeral]

Not really disappointed myself. I hate to say it but... I think KISS seemed better when I was a kid. Kinda grew out of them.
Detroit Rock City was kinda fun in RB1, though.

[DethBoxx]

I'm thrilled that Kiss are omitted b/c I can't stand them.

If they come out as DLC you can buy it and I can choose not to. We all win!

[Firehouse66]

Wow! Who knew so many "rock music" fans hated KISS?! To each his own, but it'd be idiotic to deny the impact and inluence they've had on a LOT of the "wishlist" bands on this forum. Here's just a few bands that have opened for KISS in the past: Accept, AC/DC,Alice In Chains,Anthrax, Billy Squier, Blue Oyster Cult, Bob Seger, BonJovi, Cheap Trick, Dokken, Drowning Pool, Edgar Winter, Faster Pussycat, Gary Wright, Iron Maiden, John Cougar, Judas Priest, Krokus, Lit, Loverboy, Molly Hatchet, Motley Crue, Mountain, Nickleback, Night Ranger, Poison, Queensryche, Rush, Saliva, Scorpions, Slade, Slaughter, Smashing Pumpkins, Styx, Sweet, Ted Nugent, Tom Petty, T-Rex, Uriah Heep, VanHalen, WASP, Winger and Y&T. Recognize any of these bands? So, to all you KISS-haters, just remember that a lot of your favorite bands feel quite differently.

[Transbrak]

Wow! Who knew so many "rock music" fans hated KISS?! To each his own, but it'd be idiotic to deny the impact and inluence they've had on a LOT of the "wishlist" bands on this forum. Here's just a few bands that have opened for KISS in the past: Accept, AC/DC,Alice In Chains,Anthrax, Billy Squier, Blue Oyster Cult, Bob Seger, BonJovi, Cheap Trick, Dokken, Drowning Pool, Edgar Winter, Faster Pussycat, Gary Wright, Iron Maiden, John Cougar, Judas Priest, Krokus, Lit, Loverboy, Molly Hatchet, Motley Crue, Mountain, Nickleback, Night Ranger, Poison, Queensryche, Rush, Saliva, Scorpions, Slade, Slaughter, Smashing Pumpkins, Styx, Sweet, Ted Nugent, Tom Petty, T-Rex, Uriah Heep, VanHalen, WASP, Winger and Y&T. Recognize any of these bands? So, to all you KISS-haters, just remember that a lot of your favorite bands feel quite differently.


YAWN!!! ....well tom petty is good....the pumpkins......cant say any of the rest are on my wish list.

and just cause you open for a band does not mean they are your idols......


if they didnt dress up and have a decent stage show then they would have been forgotten by now.....otherwise mediocre at best.

[Zoop]

With all due respect, no. I hate KISS. DLC I'm cool with, but with disc stuff, I HAVE to play it; I don't want to play KISS, so I'm happy it's not on the disc. I do hope there's KISS DLC for KISS fans, however.

[kingtonyx]

Strutter or Heaven's On Fire would have been cool

[Firehouse66]

YAWN!!! ....well tom petty is good....the pumpkins......cant say any of the rest are on my wish list.

and just cause you open for a band does not mean they are your idols......


if they didnt dress up and have a decent stage show then they would have been forgotten by now.....otherwise mediocre at best.

impact and influence =/= idol.

[Transbrak]

impact and influence =/= idol.

ok then....just because you open for a band does not mean they impacted or influenced.....or even liked them......if i was a lowly band i would open for them even though i wouldnt care enough to stick around for there show

......really none of this influences my comments or as it seems anyone elses.

[SilentCricket]

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:rolleyes:

[master2uall]

thank god they are not in here. wait, if you like them arnt you like supposed to be knights in satans service or something *** like that?

[SilentCricket]

thank god they are not in here. wait, if you like them arnt you like supposed to be knights in satans service or something *** like that?

ummm, why do you look like me? master??


check my join date, i was first, please cease and dessist using my likeness now.

:mad:

[toMsons1987]

I am mad, Kiss is a huge and has great songs what everyone knows!

[Rod_Stixx]

I'm a big KISS fan, but I wasn't too concerned about no tunes on the disc. There's plenty of other good stuff and I'm sure there will be some more KISS DLC sometime in the future.

[Kelvis]

Reading through a few other request threads this morning, and I wonder - do KISS fans who are posters on this board go into threads of bands they *know they don't like* in order to post hate?

I don't particularly like the current definition of 'metal' (*real* or otherwise), but can't see the point of going into these threads and pointing out that I think such & such a band 'sucks' or whatever...Especially if I didn't actually know much of their music...

[Rock_Starman]

There's about 80 bands I'm dissapointed aren't in RB 2 and yes KISS happens to be one of them.

People need to stop saying things like "Get the DLC". One song in 35 weeks? In some cases no songs in 35 weeks. So don't even try to bring that up.

[Desensitized]

At least we don't being up how disappointed we are with the game in every damn post. :p

[Young_Nastyman]

ummm, why do you look like me? master??


check my join date, i was first, please cease and dessist using my likeness now.

:mad:

AVATAR FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!

edit: To be on topic: No DRC is their only good song, IMO

[Kelvis]

edit: To be on topic: No DRC is their only good song, IMO


Sigh...DRC is their only good song? So out of 220-odd original songs and a 30 year recording career, they only have one good track?

I appreciate that this is your opinion, but I wonder how informed that opinion is...If you don't mind me asking, how many of those 220-odd songs have you actually listened to?

[Kelvis]

Well, the thing is that I have a friend who is a HUGE KISS fan, and I can't just go up to him and say that I read on the RB forums that "The band themselves said they cared more about their stage performance and costumes then their music..."

I want some proof to back up how "great" KISS is, you know? :p

I think you'll be waiting a long time for this 'proof' as I don't think KISS have ever said this. If you need proof of any sort of how KISS are so-called 'bad' musicians, ask your friend to play you their MTV unplugged CD/DVD.


if they didnt dress up and have a decent stage show then they would have been forgotten by now.....otherwise mediocre at best.

As above, KISS MTV unplugged - No stage performance, no costumes, no fireworks. Just great songs. You may be pleasantly surprised. Also, there was that decade and a half where they didn't 'dress up'...Somehow, they were still able to put on a brilliant show and consistenly sold millions of records.

Must have been because they were such bad musicians with little songwriting skills who only relied on their makeup....Er, wait...

[Strutter]

I'm bummed that they didn't include KISS on the RB2 disc, but hopefully they send us fans a DLC pack at least. Strutter, Shout it out loud, Rock & Roll All Nite...

[ShiftyPimp]

Kiss is awfully weak for the way they dress...
I mean "God gave Rock and Roll to Ya"... C'mon.:rolleyes:

[Kelvis]

Kiss is awfully weak for the way they dress...
I mean "God gave Rock and Roll to Ya"... C'mon.:rolleyes:


Well, I guess you could say the same thing about the way a band like Slipknot wears masks & costumes. Also, I hate to break it to you but that (God Gave Rock 'n' Roll to You) was a cover of a song from 1973 by a band named 'Argent'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BouIFzam3zU


I'm bummed that they didn't include KISS on the RB2 disc, but hopefully they send us fans a DLC pack at least. Strutter, Shout it out loud, Rock & Roll All Nite...

Hey Strutter - KISS DLC for sure, but I'd actually prefer some of the lesser known songs to kinda prove to some of the people on here that KISS have more than 'one or two good songs'.

Stuff like 'Strange Ways' (Megadeth version here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIcJP3bWSO0

'Love Her All I Can', 'Parasite' (the Anthrax version here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d33zcxdJJB8)

'She', 'Watchin' You'...The amazing songs the fans know, but the mainstream guy on the forum doesn't.

[Young_Nastyman]

Sigh...DRC is their only good song? So out of 220-odd original songs and a 30 year recording career, they only have one good track?

I appreciate that this is your opinion, but I wonder how informed that opinion is...If you don't mind me asking, how many of those 220-odd songs have you actually listened to?

Definitely not all 220, I'd say around 20-30, and Detroit Rock City was the only one that really did anything for me, the rest were so...meh, and DRC wasn't enough to make me look into the rest of their catalog.

[Kelvis]

Definitely not all 220, I'd say around 20-30, and Detroit Rock City was the only one that really did anything for me, the rest were so...meh, and DRC wasn't enough to make me look into the rest of their catalog.

Fair shout buddy, I suppose there is so much music in the world a person can't listen to everything there is - but then, you sometimes have to dig deep to find the best gems ;)

Thanks for the honest reply anyway :)

[SilentCricket]

why is this thread not moved to the ultimate setlist forum yet?

[Young_Nastyman]

why is this thread not moved to the ultimate setlist forum yet?

Because apples and the other mods want to see an avatar fight between you and master2uall as much as I do...they crave blood...............please?

[KaneRobot]

Yeah, it's a little disappointing. Love Gun, dammit.

[ShiftyPimp]

Well, I guess you could say the same thing about the way a band like Slipknot wears masks & costumes. Also, I hate to break it to you but that (God Gave Rock 'n' Roll to You) was a cover of a song from 1973 by a band named 'Argent'.

Um, No. Slipknot actually rock. Kiss dress up like demons and play weak music. Even for their time.

And about God gave Rock and Roll to You: LMAO! That was a cover?! LMFAOOOOOO. Sorry. :AddingArgentToTheSuckyBandsListing:

[R4di4ti0n]

nope.
chars

[Rock_Starman]

Kiss is awfully weak for the way they dress...
I mean "God gave Rock and Roll to Ya"... C'mon.:rolleyes:

Someone hasn't seen Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=IHBwryfycvk

That so should've been the final song.

[gervdog]

For all expert guitarist out there...listen to the first 20 seconds or so of "No No No No" off Kiss' "Crazy Nights" album. Even though this is not my favorite Kiss song by far, I could see the charting being insanely difficult. "Cold Gin" would be a welcome addition, even though it wouldn't be too hard, it would be incredibly fun to play at all levels.

[Kelvis]

Um, No. Slipknot actually rock. Kiss dress up like demons and play weak music. Even for their time.

Um, No. KISS actually rock (and roll all nite). Slipknot dress up in the same way KISS did (the 'gimmick' of masks to hide their faces and non-everyday clothes - except KISS did it 30 years previously).

The above linked Megadeth, Anthrax and others such as Bathory & Motorhead would disagree with your 'weak' music jibe - I'll trust their opinions over yours.


For all expert guitarist out there...listen to the first 20 seconds or so of "No No No No" off Kiss' "Crazy Nights" album. Even though this is not my favorite Kiss song by far, I could see the charting being insanely difficult. "Cold Gin" would be a welcome addition, even though it wouldn't be too hard, it would be incredibly fun to play at all levels.

Agreed! Always thought that was a fantastic intro/solo in the 'Eruption' vibe. Eric Carr's double-bass drumming on that track is great too. Wait a minute though, aren't KISS really bad musicians? The sub-genre *real* metal loving teenagers on this forum keep telling me so... :P

This thread probably could be moved to ultimate setlist or history of rock tho'...Mods?

[Firehouse66]

Wow! What did I start by posting this thread?? It's obvious the average age of the RB fan is much younger than myself(42). However, I'm glad that I grew up at a time when rock music really rocked!! I don't like the band that KISS has become today, but that has nothing to do with the musical legacy left by the original four members. It's sad that there are so many close-minded people on here, unwilling to give a great group a chance. I'm betting that if HMX threw in a few classic KISS songs under a different artist's name, the haters would love these tracks. Oh well, I'm happy that I'll be able to drum my way through any/every KISS song that I want with that new feature. Cheers to all the KISS fans on the forum, even if our numbers are small.

[HuckleCat]

With the way Gene Simmons likes to whore out Kiss and put their name on every kind of merchandise imaginable, I am very surprised there isn't more Kiss in both RB and GH.

[stewpidaz]

umm they're ok but I'm more dissapointed about the omission styx van halen, GNR/Velvet Revolver, no deep purple DLC, no killers dlc and not enough muse

[shaybo]

Happy about no KISS actually.

[AceFrehley]

I am definitely disappointed that there is no KISS in RB2! Hopefully they will be included on the 20 bonus DLC tracks or a KISS 6 pack of DLC like Harmonix did with Boston. I believe that if Harmonix was able to get 2 KISS songs in the game so far, there is no reason that they couldn't add more, considering that KISS has a huge catalog of music. At least add "Rock N' Roll All Nite", "Cold Gin", "Mr. Speed", "Black Diamond", "Shock Me", and "Parasite" to RB2. I would prefer to have live versions of these songs if possible, but if not, I will also take the studio recordings. I just want some more KISS songs please.

[fetaltorpedo]

There's more kiss in the game already then i'd like to play. Put them on download play if you have to because i don't want to have to sit through their songs

[ChiTownBoi]

KISS is up there with ACDC as Rock Gods. Come on HMX, wtf is wrong with you. :)

eh... are you kidding? KISS was a huge sell out band, how are you comparing them to ACDC? The only person that had even some talent in KISS was the bassist other than that the band doesn't deserve the title of "Rock Gods" as ACDC does, who hold much better concerts and still make good music up to today.

[erickOnasis412]

umm they're ok but I'm more dissapointed about the omission styx

YES!!! "Renegade"!!

And we have GNR, and I have a feeling we'll definitely get some more. As far as Velvet Revolver, not sure.

And although there's still a few more KISS songs I'd like, I'm more dissapointed with no inclusion of other artists (Stone Temple Pilots) :(

[cdestey]

Happy about no KISS actually.

seconded!!

[mazzy]

I will gladly take some Kiss DLC.... but not a big deal that they did not get on the second disc.... How about some:

1. Love It Loud
2. Rock and Roll All Night
3. Strutter
4. Heaven's On Fire
5. God of Thunder
6. God Gave Us Rock and Roll

[jamminjon82]

:( I thought RB2 would contain at least one KISS song, but was sadly mistaken. It's obvious that the band has somewhat of a working relationship with RB, since DRC was included on the RB1 disc and Calling Dr. Love was released as DLC. I was half expecting to see a classic KISS tune on the RB2 disc. Hopefully, there'll be a KISS song pack or even an entire album future DLC. I can dream, right?

I am not remotely disappointed in Kiss's exclusion, more like I'm ecstatic that they were kept out. They suck and I mean a lot.

[Captain Zepp 07]

What the chicken nuggets in my bagel?! I'm sad for Kiss but damn! They really cut alot of bands that didn't need to be, for other bands. Seriously?

Aerosmith [Glad i won't have to play a cover of a cover again]
Black Sabbath [Cover Only, frumpage]
Blue Öyster Cult
[B]Boston [With this being one of the greatest packs to get, why not try to have MORE BOSTON!!! Don't Look Back, Amanda, Feelin' Satisfied]
The Clash [Rock the Casba, Radio Clash, even London Calling]
Coheed and Cambria [Must be cover only if the DLC was...]
David Bowie [I want more Ziggy Stardust, Starman, Rebel Rebel]
Deep Purple [Child In Time was PERFECT .. then again live version really is]
Faith No More [Even had DLC... what the frigg]
Fall Out Boy [They do have that weird fanbase, DLC, so really i'm glad but shocked]
Garbage [The perfect welcome to RB Band ... now gone]
The Hives [They're SVEEDISH!]
Hole [Doll Parts was the only other hope for them...]
Iron Maiden [Covers only, damn]
Jet [Still love them]
The Killers [Surprised the end of Sam's Town means not looking into older Killer content]
Kiss [They are just that weird sensation you get after premature ejaculation.. gene does it to me all the time.. at work...]
Molly Hatchet [They're southern, i love that shinanigans if that means no CCR]
Mountain [Ok, i understand for these guys]
The New Pornographers
Nine Inch Nails [THEY GOT 2 Packs of DLC but no disk song? WTF!]
OK Go [They could get that other weird video song...]
The Outlaws [Another southerns, means more good for no CCR]
Pixies [Apparently all they had was Doolittle in them]
[B]The Police [Sting is only good with the police, hate solo work, and they have DLC... what?]
Queens of the Stone [With DLC and large fan base... whoa!]
R.E.M. [Alot of good tunes that can work, GH has a pack.. ah ****, run!]
Radiohead [OK COMPUTER ME PLEASE AT LEAST!!!]
Ramones [Judy is a Punk is my favorite, but short as all get out..]
Stone Temple Pilots [Weird, DLC but once again no song]
The Strokes [All albums for DLC PLEASE!!!]
Sweet [Fox on the Run?]
Weezer [No time for weezer?]
Yeah Yeah Yeahs [DLC but denied]

yah, really bummed only a HANDFUL were brought back and NOT the other way around.. not really liking it. I'd rather disk swap then no extra songs by most of these bands!

[Serpentd]

Wow! What did I start by posting this thread?? It's obvious the average age of the RB fan is much younger than myself(42). However, I'm glad that I grew up at a time when rock music really rocked!! I don't like the band that KISS has become today, but that has nothing to do with the musical legacy left by the original four members. It's sad that there are so many close-minded people on here, unwilling to give a great group a chance. I'm betting that if HMX threw in a few classic KISS songs under a different artist's name, the haters would love these tracks. Oh well, I'm happy that I'll be able to drum my way through any/every KISS song that I want with that new feature. Cheers to all the KISS fans on the forum, even if our numbers are small.


Dude, don't trip man, your not alone. I'm 40 now and grew up on KISS. Especially the great songs from the 70's. I could eaily list 10-20 songs I would want from them. I did post on page 1 or something that I would love all of Double Platinum.

As far as all the KISS hate, don't worry about that either. I've met MANY heavy metal and Death metal bands that always include KISS as one of their influences. Obviously their 70's music again.

If people don't know these songs then I can understand why they don't understand the whole KISS thing. Even though I own ever single album they ever made, there were some hit and misses for me with their music in the 80's and 90's. But they still put out some great music those years as well.

Anyway, the true KISS fans are definitely out there, just not on this forum apparently. I would say you would have to be in the age group of 36-46 or so to be a lifetime KISS fan as ourselves. My wife is just like us, she even has a sweet Rock N Roll Over tattoo on her back.

Anyway, here's to hoping we do get a 6 pack of KISS DLC in the near future. I'm sure we will with the way Gene is.:p By the way, who is your favorite member? Mine has been ACE since day one. His solo album was actually my very first record back in 1978 I think. I was 9 years old and saved my allowance for a month to buy that thing. I still have that same record to this day. I loved every song that ACE sang in KISS.

Welp, I've typed too much as ussual. Sorry for the long post everyone.:)

[KingSigy]

I'm actually extremely happy. I hate Kiss with a passion, so please, just leave them out entirely.

[mazzy]

"What the chicken nuggets in my bagel?! I'm sad for Kiss but damn! They really cut alot of bands that didn't need to be, for other bands. Seriously?

Aerosmith [Glad i won't have to play a cover of a cover again]
Black Sabbath [Cover Only, frumpage]
Blue Öyster Cult [Burnin' For You, Godzilla, Cities of Flame With Rock and Roll... come on, PICK ONE!]
Boston [With this being one of the greatest packs to get, why not try to have MORE BOSTON!!! Don't Look Back, Amanda, Feelin' Satisfied]
The Clash [Rock the Casba, Radio Clash, even London Calling]
Coheed and Cambria [Must be cover only if the DLC was...]
David Bowie [I want more Ziggy Stardust, Starman, Rebel Rebel]
Deep Purple [Child In Time was PERFECT .. then again live version really is]
Faith No More [Even had DLC... what the frigg]
Fall Out Boy [They do have that weird fanbase, DLC, so really i'm glad but shocked]
Garbage [The perfect welcome to RB Band ... now gone]
The Hives [They're SVEEDISH!]
Hole [Doll Parts was the only other hope for them...]
Iron Maiden [Covers only, damn]
Jet [Still love them]
The Killers [Surprised the end of Sam's Town means not looking into older Killer content]
Kiss [They are just that weird sensation you get after premature ejaculation.. gene does it to me all the time.. at work...]
Molly Hatchet [They're southern, i love that shinanigans if that means no CCR]
Mountain [Ok, i understand for these guys]
The New Pornographers [Because of RB i gave them a chance and i do like theyre music, very well for RB]
Nine Inch Nails [THEY GOT 2 Packs of DLC but no disk song? WTF!]
OK Go [They could get that other weird video song...]
The Outlaws [Another southerns, means more good for no CCR]
Pixies [Apparently all they had was Doolittle in them]
The Police [Sting is only good with the police, hate solo work, and they have DLC... what?]
Queens of the Stone [With DLC and large fan base... whoa!]
R.E.M. [Alot of good tunes that can work, GH has a pack.. ah ****, run!]
Radiohead [OK COMPUTER ME PLEASE AT LEAST!!!]
Ramones [Judy is a Punk is my favorite, but short as all get out..]
Stone Temple Pilots [Weird, DLC but once again no song]
The Strokes [All albums for DLC PLEASE!!!]
Sweet [Fox on the Run?]
Weezer [No time for weezer?]
Yeah Yeah Yeahs [DLC but denied]

yah, really bummed only a HANDFUL were brought back and NOT the other way around.. not really liking it. I'd rather disk swap then no extra songs by most of these bands!"






But those bands were on the first disc which will transfer over... don't you want some new bands to add to the collection? We can still get DLC from the Rock Band 1 bands...

[Firehouse66]

[QUOTE=Serpentd;893201]

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Anyway, here's to hoping we do get a 6 pack of KISS DLC in the near future. I'm sure we will with the way Gene is.:p By the way, who is your favorite member? Mine has been ACE since day one. His solo album was actually my very first record back in 1978 I think. I was 9 years old and saved my allowance for a month to buy that thing. I still have that same record to this day. I loved every song that ACE sang in KISS.

QUOTE]

Thanks for the great response, and, yeah, I'm gonna quit trying to sell the haters on KISS. It's their loss, not ours. My favorite member? Peter Criss all the way. As much as I admire his style of drumming in the early days, I just think he's a real down to earth guy. Ace definitely rocks, but Peter will always be my fave out of the original four. If we DO get some KISS DLC, let's hook up online and take a trip back in time?!

[Snitsky]

Not at all those guys suck

[gosox333]

I really wanted Black Diamond or Duece in RB2 :(. My only hopes now are DLC or GH:WT

[kiggidykev]

More KISS would be nice (I've loved "Strutter" since I heard it in GH2, plus "Lick it Up" and "Hotter than Hell" from Tony Hawk 4), and I'm confident we'll see more as DLC someday.

[geo2n2]

I'm not fan of Kiss, but they're fun to me int the context of the game, so I welcome more.

I don't think people should fret since they have had masters used twice so far, so that suggests a definite possibility of more. Just a matter of when. If they had not been in the game or only had covers (a la Maiden), then I'd be worried.

[Runa216]

Aw, I dunno. I like Kiss, and they would be included in a "who's Who of rock" as HMX has stated, but I'm not gonna lie, I have yet to enjoy a Kiss song on any GH or RB game thus far. I just don't find them fun to play. Awesome to listen to, but not too fun to play.

[Runesmith]

Definately! I could imagine a lot of KISS songs being fun to play on drums or bass. Eric and Gene had a surprising amount of chops, even if the latter gets a lot of crap for "selling-out" and being a lazy bassist at times.

I'm still holding hope for God of Thunder. And The Replacements' cover of Black Diamond would be a welcome addition.

[onduvalst]

eh... are you kidding? KISS was a huge sell out band, how are you comparing them to ACDC? The only person that had even some talent in KISS was the bassist other than that the band doesn't deserve the title of "Rock Gods" as ACDC does, who hold much better concerts and still make good music up to today.
See thats the problem with the haters. They don't even know enough to know the Gene's the bassist. Hell even non kiss fans know Gene Simmons is the god of thunder!!!! They're all immature punks who troll, looking for a thread to flame in.

[an1m051ty]

Nah, I think Detroit Rock City is probably the best KISS song, and it was on the first one... and now the second one.

[Valery Faye]

If they somehow got to use ALIVE for DLC, not the whole thing but something along the lines of The Who DLC (Maybe a 3-6 track pack with select fan favorites, all of the Live versions from ALIVE) I'd definitely buy it. I'm not really even a KISS fan, but I actually liked ALIVE despite its "re-recordings"

[Bolzen]

I wouldn't mind some newer KISS. You know, Eric Carr era stuff. Something from Creatures, or dare I say, Elder.

And yeah, if they could get Alive! in there, I'd be all for it.

With any luck there will be some KISS in those 20 free DLC songs mentioned.

[Kelvis]

Another KISS thread, another carnival of hate-clowns. For all those posting in this thread saying things like 'KISS SUXXZORZ' and such, could I direct you towards this:


The ban hammer is gonna start coming down on people who troll these forums just to spread hate.

No one cares if you don't like a band. If your so starved for attention that you need to come in here acting like a jerk and raggin on other people choice of music you will be banned.

Either that, or it's time for every KISS fan on this board to start acting like angry teenagers, going into all the sub-real-nu-extreme-death-thrash-doom-melodic-power metal threads and saying 'YOUR FAVE BAND SUXXORZ'

It wouldn't be so bad if the type of people posting such remarks actually had half-a-clue about KISS' *MUSIC* (and the context of it in the history of rock), rather than whatever rumours they read about Gene Simmons latest money-making scheme on Blabbermouth.

Jeez, yesterday on this board I read a post from someone saying Queen wouldn't be good for Rock Band because they "didn't have enough guitars in their music".

So, KISS haters? Give it a listen, or give it a rest.

[needLEEr]

Um, No. Slipknot actually rock. Kiss dress up like demons and play weak music. Even for their time.

And about God gave Rock and Roll to You: LMAO! That was a cover?! LMFAOOOOOO. Sorry. :AddingArgentToTheSuckyBandsListing:

Slipknot actually rock? Yes, because using the same poor guitar tone and same double bass in EVERY one of your songs classify as "rock." They should also think about having some solos in their songs, because without them it's awful. Slipknot wears masks that look like they're about to kill people.

tl;dr version: Slipknot sucks, listen to something better that is real music.

[Metal Mavis]

Slipknot actually rock? Yes, because using the same poor guitar tone and same double bass in EVERY one of your songs classify as "rock." They should also think about having some solos in their songs, because without them it's awful. Slipknot wears masks that look like they're about to kill people.

tl;dr version: Slipknot sucks, listen to something better that is real music.


ROTFL ...I swear, you kids gotta be on stage with some of the tripe you spill on these forums ...do you actually read what you post?

Little bit of advice for all you know-it-all kiddies out there ...go expand your musical repertoire and actually listen to some of the stuff you bash before you trash :eek:

Begone ...and don't come back until you have something sensible to contribute, or at least until you find some grass on the green :p


METAL FOR LIFE MF's

Horns High...
METAL MAVIS.

[darkangel]

:( I thought RB2 would contain at least one KISS song, but was sadly mistaken. It's obvious that the band has somewhat of a working relationship with RB, since DRC was included on the RB1 disc and Calling Dr. Love was released as DLC. I was half expecting to see a classic KISS tune on the RB2 disc. Hopefully, there'll be a KISS song pack or even an entire album future DLC. I can dream, right?

I really cant stand Kiss. I am not against getting them in the game... mostly because there is DLC I want that isnt popular. but for their music, I really hate Kiss. Actually, more than just their music is everything about them. Gene is an ass, their gimmick was awful and their music... just garbage. I know... its not a popular opinion, but I just cant understand why people like them (and many actually love them). They are the kings of "sell out". the make up thing was so damn cheesy and why the hell was the drummer painted like a cat? was that supposed to be cool? oooh, Gene has a big tongue... wow. oh and for a band that wants to "rock and roll all night and party every day" half the band was fired for "partying"

[Kelvis]

I really cant stand Kiss. I am not against getting them in the game... mostly because there is DLC I want that isnt popular. but for their music, I really hate Kiss. Actually, more than just their music is everything about them. Gene is an ass, their gimmick was awful and their music... just garbage. I know... its not a popular opinion, but I just cant understand why people like them (and many actually love them). They are the kings of "sell out". the make up thing was so damn cheesy and why the hell was the drummer painted like a cat? was that supposed to be cool? oooh, Gene has a big tongue... wow. oh and for a band that wants to "rock and roll all night and party every day" half the band was fired for "partying"

Hi. Did you read this post, just 3 posts before yours?


Another KISS thread, another carnival of hate-clowns. For all those posting in this thread saying things like 'KISS SUXXZORZ' and such, could I direct you towards this:


The ban hammer is gonna start coming down on people who troll these forums just to spread hate.

No one cares if you don't like a band. If your so starved for attention that you need to come in here acting like a jerk and raggin on other people choice of music you will be banned.



So, aside from you being starved of attention that you felt the need to come in here and rag on other people's choice of music, what was the point of your post?

[Fatal_T]

As a huge KISS fan, I am very disappointed that there are no new KISS songs in RB2. Hopefully Detroit Rock City will transfer over (it should, I would think), as will Dr. Love. So, those will continue to hold me until the DLC angels see fit to bless us with more KISS. I'm hoping the 20 free songs might have one in there.

Now, as to all the folks who just feel the need to come into this thread and mindlessly bash the band - fine, that's your opinion. One man's treasure is another man's trash. If you're not disappointed, say so, and leave it at that.

As a fan of rock music, I know full well that musically, KISS is not on the level of Led Zeppelin or Rush (for example). They've always been upfront in the fact that they are not virtuosos (and they acknowledge they fell flat on their faces when they tried to show everyone what sort of artists they could be), but that their main intent is to put on a show that will melt your face off. And having been to quite a few KISS shows, they succeed admirably in their objectives. They've got more sizzle on their steak than anyone around.

But, I like the steak too. For me, KISS music (especially from the '70s) is just fun to listen to. Just straightforward American rock that's fun to listen to. KISS Alive! has always been and will always be my favorite rock album. It captures perfectly a band that's young and hungry and going balls out to try and make it.


If they somehow got to use ALIVE for DLC, not the whole thing but something along the lines of The Who DLC (Maybe a 3-6 track pack with select fan favorites, all of the Live versions from ALIVE) I'd definitely buy it. I'm not really even a KISS fan, but I actually liked ALIVE despite its "re-recordings"

Good thought, but I'm thinking the masters for Alive! are not going to be usable for RB, even with the cleanup they did in the studio. And that's a loss, because the "Rock And Roll All Nite" from Alive! is the best version ever.

Just my .02

EDIT: "F" the haters...this is what I'm talking about:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=c1Ho90myPFA

[darkangel]

Hi. Did you read this post, just 3 posts before yours?

yeah, I just didnt care what that person had to say... just like you obviously dont care about what I have to say.




So, aside from you being starved of attention that you felt the need to come in here and rag on other people's choice of music, what was the point of your post?

The thread title is "Anyone else disappointed with the omission of KISS in RB2?", My answer was no and I was kind enough to explain why. But I also pointed out that while I do not like the band, I dont want them omitted from the game because of my opinion... as I further explained, there are bands I want that other RB players do not agree with. I did not attack the OP or any fans of the band, I just said that I do not like Kiss and why. That said, Gene Simons is STILL a pompous ass and sellout loser (far exceeding anything Metallica or Lars Ulrich has been accused of) and you have proven to be his equal in personality.

good for you.

[Fatal_T]

That said, Gene Simons is STILL a pompous ass and sellout loser (far exceeding anything Metallica or Lars Ulrich has been accused of)

I would argue that Gene Simmons sets new records for arrogance, and is only in it for the money (I don't buy the whole girls bit anymore). He's actually a pretty savvy businessman who realizes that there are KISS fans out there that would probably buy a turd if it had the KISS logo on it, and he's more than willing to take their money. If he can get it, more power to him, IMO. I really wish he and Paul would bow out gracefully, but that's not really the Simmons MO, as far as I can tell, so I'll just have watch Gene milk the KISS legacy for all it's worth.

But, for all his faults, when I had the opportunity to meet him, he was courteous and probably one of the most fan-friendly celebrities I've come across. What his real thoughts on his fans are, I can't say (though a $100 printing press does come to mind), but after meeting him I came away feeling that he knows who put him in his fancy mansion. Yes, he worked hard to make himself what he is, but all hard work wouldn't have been worth a damn if people like myself and other fans hadn't plunked our dollars down to see him.

And with all that - here's to ya Gene, from those better days:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNeMhSEHeGw

[LordFlatus]

At least we have Bang Camaro to fill our KISS desires. :)

[Young_Nastyman]

At least we have Bang Camaro to fill our Def Leppard desires. :)

Fixed

They said it themselves, they wanted to recreate the intensity that the 80's metal bands had in the studio, live

[Goshdarnit]

I suppose "God Gave Rock 'N' Roll To You" is something of a rock anthem, but I honestly think Kiss are overrated. I'm not surprised to see them left out, but I'm sure there will be more DLC. Maybe they will even be in the "Free 20".

Edit: Don't get me wrong, I liked Kiss at the time, but they seem somewhat dated now. When I look at them now, they seem formulaic and a bit contrived, and their songs are very safe and fall into that "generic American Rock" sound for me. You have to ask: without the face paint and the spitting blood, how big would they have been? As I say, I liked them then, but I never listen to them now.

[Fatal_T]

Why is it people keep dredging up "God Gave Rock And Roll To You, Pt. II" as a representative KISS song? They first released that track on the soundtrack to Bill & Ted's Bogus Adventure, then on Revenge - in the early 90's.

While there was a smattering of good songs spread out among all the albums that came out after Creatures of the Night, you need to look to the '70s to find the true gems in the catalog. '74 - '77 was KISS in top form, before all the fame, money, and bullsh** got a hold of them. Stuff like "Mr. Speed", "Makin' Love", "I Stole Your Love", "Shout It Out Loud", "Hotter Than Hell", "Deuce", "Cold Gin", "100,000 Years", etc., etc., etc.

Here's one of their best:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcClIdYincQ&feature=related

[Goshdarnit]

I didn't dredge it up as being representative. I said I suppose it is something of a rock anthem, and on the strength of that alone may merit inclusion. I go way back (sadly :D ). I remember the 70s, and was there. That was when I liked Kiss. But when I look at them now, they feel middle of the road and formulaic, riding on the shirt tails of better bands and using their image to get them further.

Songs like Black Diamond brought nothing new to the table, and had Kiss not tried to be ourageous, I honestly think they would never have progressed beyond a fairly successful rock act, fairly typical of the era. It's just my opinion, and yours differs. I respect that, and the music world would be pretty dull if we all liked the same things. I know that you would consider many of the bands I love to be "formulaic" or "safe". It's all just "horses for courses". I love that we all like different things, and the beauty of DLC is that we can all just download what we love and leave the stuff we don't. But please don't misquote me.

[Fatal_T]

I didn't dredge it up as being representative. I said I suppose it is something of a rock anthem, and on the strength of that alone may merit inclusion. I go way back (sadly :D ). I remember the 70s, and was there. That was when I liked Kiss. But when I look at them now, they feel middle of the road and formulaic, riding on the shirt tails of better bands and using their image to get them further.

Songs like Black Diamond brought nothing new to the table, and had Kiss not tried to be ourageous, I honestly think they would never have progressed beyond a fairly successful rock act, fairly typical of the era. It's just my opinion, and yours differs. I respect that, and the music world would be pretty dull if we all liked the same things. I know that you would consider many of the bands I love to be "formulaic" or "safe". It's all just "horses for courses". I love that we all like different things, and the beauty of DLC is that we can all just download what we love and leave the stuff we don't. But please don't misquote me.

I'll agree with you about the current state of the band - it seems to me that ever since they took off their makeup they went with whatever trend was hot at the moment, trying to get back on top but they were never again able to recapture the magic.

I also respect your opinion on DLC, I'm firmly of the opinion that one man's treasure is another man's trash - that's why I don't bash others for their tastes in music, and I take umbrage when people bash mine.

My main reason in responding to your post was that I've seen a lot of folks, mostly younger than us, citing "God Gave And Rock And Roll To You" as a popular KISS song - I've never seen it that way, but perhaps I've never paid that much attention to it, as the song never really resonated with me. Any misquoting was unintentional.

[REL1203]

I would S a Brick if they releases Psycho Circus as DLC, I love that KISS song for some reason. Shout it out loud would also be great

[Kelvis]

yeah, I just didnt care what that person had to say... just like you obviously dont care about what I have to say.
The thread title is "Anyone else disappointed with the omission of KISS in RB2?", My answer was no and I was kind enough to explain why. But I also pointed out that while I do not like the band, I dont want them omitted from the game because of my opinion... as I further explained, there are bands I want that other RB players do not agree with. I did not attack the OP or any fans of the band, I just said that I do not like Kiss and why. That said, Gene Simons is STILL a pompous ass and sellout loser (far exceeding anything Metallica or Lars Ulrich has been accused of) and you have proven to be his equal in personality.good for you.


Your answer was no - wouldn't it be enough to leave it at that? Ah, no you felt the need to come out with this diatribe:


I really cant stand Kiss. I am not against getting them in the game... mostly because there is DLC I want that isnt popular. but for their music, I really hate Kiss. Actually, more than just their music is everything about them. Gene is an ass, their gimmick was awful and their music... just garbage. I know... its not a popular opinion, but I just cant understand why people like them (and many actually love them). They are the kings of "sell out". the make up thing was so damn cheesy and why the hell was the drummer painted like a cat? was that supposed to be cool? oooh, Gene has a big tongue... wow. oh and for a band that wants to "rock and roll all night and party every day" half the band was fired for "partying"

So let's go over that - your answer was no, and you were 'kind' enough to *also* point out:

You really can't stand KISS.

You really hate KISS, not just their music *everything* about them. (didn't you just cover that when you said you really couldn't stand KISS?)

Gene Simmons is an ass.

Their gimmick was awful and their music garbage. Didn't you also just cover that again when you said you really hated KISS, their music & everything about them?

They're the kings of "sell out". (Yeah, they do sell out concerts, world wide)

Their makeup was damn cheesy.

Gene has a big tongue...wow. (And?)

'Half the band' was not fired for partying btw.


Over-elaborate much?

As far as not caring what the person had to say, that person was a moderator on these forums, so perhaps you should care especially when you seem to go completely overboard in your criticism of other people's choice of music.

Oh - one last thing you mentioned Gene Simmons being a pompous ass and sell-out loser...Was he like that when you met him?

[KaneRobot]

Love Gun, dammit.

If not, then War Machine, I Love It Loud, or Strutter. Hell, give us Hard Luck Woman for all I care. Just give us something else...Calling Dr. Love is hardly the best song in their catalog but it's the only DLC from them so far.

[Kelvis]

Love Gun, dammit.

If not, then War Machine, I Love It Loud, or Strutter. Hell, give us Hard Luck Woman for all I care. Just give us something else...Calling Dr. Love is hardly the best song in their catalog but it's the only DLC from them so far.

How about - Parasite - She - Watchin' You? :D

I think if you played 'Hard Luck Woman' to most people in this forum they'd think it was Rod Stewart :P

[Vi Veritatis]

I think God gave Rock 'n' Roll to you would be the perfect theme song for the game.

[KISSfan84]

Once again, I find yet another thread mostly intended for KISS fans, and find that the trolls have destroyed it with their biased or uninformed posts. Fatal, you are a true Guardian of all things KISS, and I applaud your efforts in defending the KISS Army and trying to inform the uninformed.
It seems that most trolls just throw around "SUCK" as so much confetti, without even understanding what KISS was/is and what the band has been all about over the years. The music "aficionados" seem to think the only viable music has come from the last 10 years or so and that to truly be good means the drums must sound like a machine gun, the vocalist must scream the lyrics, and the entire song is basically just one long guitar solo.
The haters either just don't get it, or they don't comprehend it, or they're just plain jealous of the bond between KISS and their loyal fans. And that's the thing, the bond is something that is the foundation of being a KISS fan. We have put on the makeup when we were kids for Halloween; hell a lot of us STILL put on the makeup if we go to a show...lol. But WE understand that KISS is not about the music; they are about us. Whether the haters like it or not, KISS is still a phenomenon in the music world. NO other band has had the marketability and business savvy. What other band has a lunch box? Trading cards? Action figures? A Marvel comic book? How many of us couldn't wait for the next album to come out just because we couldn't wait to see what free goodies were inside (tattoos, posters, the paper Love Gun)?
As for "God Gave...Pt II"--this song is not even close to being a KISS anthem; hell, it's not even among their best stuff. Really, guys, listen to the EARLY stuff; "Hotter Than Hell" and "Rock and Roll Over" contains some of their best stuff. :cool:

[Vi Veritatis]

I know, God Gave is 1990 (I guess), it was soundtrack for a movie, it's absolute classic rock mannerism, so what? It would still be the perfect theme song for the game!

Anyway, people who built their RnR knowledge on internet forums hate Kiss because they "sold their souls for money" (merchandise). You do know teenagers :D

[Serpentd]

Okay, it's time that another LIFE TIME KISS fan steps up and support the troops! All the haters and "I use to like Kiss" people never understood what Kiss was about. In my opinion, if you are from the 70's even 80's and remember and owned some or all the early KISS music starting with their debut album up through even the Kiss Dynasty album and then grew old and are no longer a Kiss fan, then you never understood it. In fact you probably take music way too serious or let others to this day control what you listen to to some extent. Because you can't be a true Kiss fan and then one day not be a Kiss fan. It just doesn't happen like that.

With me being 40 now and buying my first Kiss record at age 9 which was Ace Frehley's solo album then Hotter Then Hell a few months later, Kiss is and will always be my favorite band. No I really don't care for their material after 1980 that much, but that's when Kiss slowly stopped being Kiss.

I loved that Every member of the band would sing different songs, Ace still being my favorite to this day. I still don't know of any other band where every member would sing a different song and on top of that be a big hit for them. All the original members of Kiss sang quite a few different songs. I loved and still love that about them. Shock me by Ace is my personal favorite.

Kiss would put on the biggest and baddest stage shows in the world. They would sell out the largest venues all around the world. Hell, even Japan loves Kiss! Once you become a Kiss fan like myself, Fatal_T or KISSfan84 then there is no going back. You are a permanent member of the KISS Army. We and all the other true Kiss fans are lucky enough to 'understand' and love it. Their music becomes a part of your soul and there is no other music that can touch it. It's actually pretty hard to understand unless you are one of these fans.

Everything that I'm babbleing on about has nothing to do with what Kiss is today or even the last 10, even 20 years. You need to go back, way back to understand what makes us these kind of fans. However, if you don't get it, you probably never will. Because even though there is better music out there, there is and will only ever be one KISS.

I bet if you did a search for Kiss Tattoos, you would have litteraly 10's of thousands to look at. No other band can say that I can promise you that. Those 1000's of people with the Kiss tattoos are the ones that understand what KISS trully stands for, well most of them anyway.

Okay, enough of my rambleing, I'll ramble on more in my next post.;):) As far as what we NEED in Rock Band would be litteraly anything from the albums KISS, Alive I or II, Love Gun or just the entire Double Platinum album. I wouldn't even mind something from Dynasty.:p

[garionoldwolf1]

I'm truely disappointed that KISS didn't make it into RB2. But I really hope we get a DLC Pack from them, or at the very least there be at least 1 KISS song in the 20 Free Songs. And I saw a comment about Knights in Satan's Service, well unless I'm wrong, I believe KISS themselves said that is not what KISS stands for.

[cgouch2]

Hell yes we need some more KISS! Like the pre '79 stuff preferably. Double Platinum would be a killer album (actual double album). With KISS, your either a life time fan or not really a fan at all, so I can understand why lots of poeple don't get into them.

KISS was what got me into rock at age 9 a long time ago..1977-78 or so. So they are very special to me. Yes I agree they aren't top musician, well Paul and Gene aren't anyway. Peter and Ace did have talent. Not to mention Eric Carr and some of the other guitarists. These guys are idols to a lot of bands out there still. Pantera, Subastian Bach of Skid Row come to mind.

Anyway, I don't care if they are on the disc or not, I do want some DLC from them for sure. And it has to be their top songs as a few here have already mentioned. Pretty much anything off of Double Platinum or Alive II. So a BIG YES for KISS...sometime soon!!!!!!!!:)

Hate to quote the whole post, but pretty much exactly what was said here. You either love or hate the KISS "franchise" and I for one got hooked in the mid-late seventies as I first got exposed to 'rock music' (7 or 8 years old). So, that being said, at least DLC (album or at least songs) would be great, so those that don't like it can pass.

Song choices (in no particular order):

Deuce
Cold Gin
God Of Thunder
Got To Choose
Hard luck Woman
Mr. Speed
Shock Me
Psycho Circus
Heaven's On Fire
Let Me Go Rock n' Roll
Rock And Roll All Nite
Black Diamond
Firehouse

... and a face paint (digital!) kit to incorporate into the game with trademark make-up and likenesses that you an easily customize for your guys :-D

Rock on....

[Flawless]

In a word, no.

[Fatal_T]

It's awesome to see the KISS Army starting to stand up here.

KISSfan84, Serpentd - you've knocked the ball out of the park on what it is to be a KISS fan. Being a KISS fan is being a part of something much larger than oneself, a common bond that we all share. To those who don't get it - well, tough! You ain't invited to the party! KISS has stood the test of time, like it or not, and should go down as one of the greatest rock bands to take the stage. Being a KISS fan is just plain fun, whether it's going to the show in makeup or blasting the music in your car, there's just something fun about KISS. And while my favorite era is the early years, I can appreciate music from all parts of their history. Why? Because it's KISS!

DLC-wise, I was stoked to get "Calling Dr. Love". Always been one of my favorite songs, and it's a blast to see live. HMX, if you're reading this - consider this a wishlist of stuff the KISS Army would like to see. All at once, if possible :D, but anything from this list will work:

Deuce
Strutter
Cold Gin
Firehouse
Nothin' To Lose
100,000 Years
Black Diamond
Hotter Than Hell
Got To Choose
Parasite
Let Me Go, Rock N' Roll
Watchin' You
Room Service
Love Her All I Can
She
Rock Bottom
Rock And Roll All Nite
King of the Night Time World
God of Thunder
Do You Love Me
Shout It Out Loud
I Want You
Makin' Love
Mr. Speed
Hard Luck Woman
Take Me
Ladies Room
I Stole Your Love
Christine Sixteen
Shock Me
Love Gun
Almost Human
Hooligan
All-American Man
Rocket Ride
Move On
Radioactive
Rip It Out
Tossin' and Turnin' (as performed by KISS - check out Largo '79 concert)
I Was Made For Lovin' You
X-Ray Eyes
Hard Times
Save Your Love
Talk To Me
She's So European
Is That You
Shandi
The Oath
Dark Light
A World Without Heroes
I
Nowhere To Run
I'm A Legend Tonight
Creatures of the Night
I Love It Loud
War Machine
Lick It Up
A Million To One
Heaven's On Fire
Thrills In The Night
Who Wants To Be Lonely
Tears Are Falling
Crazy, Crazy Nights
No, No, No
Turn On the Night
Let's Put The "X" in Sex
Silver Spoon
Rise To It
Unholy
God Gave Rock and Roll To You, Pt. II
The Jungle
The Master And The Slave
Psycho Circus
Into The Void

I think I've included something from every album that wasn't exclusively a greatest hits collection. Any one of these songs would be acceptable for me, especially the ones higher up on the list. (I didn't include "Nothing Compares To You" from the Detroit Rock City soundtrack, because that sort of syrupy ballad doesn't belong on Rock Band).

Of course, "Rip and Destroy" might be a lot of fun to play too! (bonus points for the ones who can tell me where that came from!)

[Fatal_T]

... and a face paint (digital!) kit to incorporate into the game with trademark make-up and likenesses that you an easily customize for your guys :-D

I can't believe Gene hasn't approached them with something like that yet. Hopefully for RB2, the clothing options will have a spiked outfit called the "Demon's Vest" or something like that, like we have the "Halford" in RB1.

Of course, being the devoted fan I am, I want the dragon boots, the axe bass, the rocket-firing guitar (probably won't see it since it's a Gibson), and the fractured mirror guitar. A levitating drum set would be nice too :D

[Hisan]

To avoid having my leg gnawed off for "over-elaboration":


NO.

[Strutter]

KISS is easily my favorite band by far, and I barely got into their music a couple years ago. Hopefully we get some more songs into RB...

[Fatal_T]

KISS is easily my favorite band by far, and I barely got into their music a couple years ago. Hopefully we get some more songs into RB...

Amen. May it be soon (hint, hint HMX :p)

[darkangel]

Your answer was no - wouldn't it be enough to leave it at that? Ah, no you felt the need to come out with this diatribe:
Over-elaborate much?

As far as not caring what the person had to say, that person was a moderator on these forums, so perhaps you should care especially when you seem to go completely overboard in your criticism of other people's choice of music.

Oh - one last thing you mentioned Gene Simmons being a pompous ass and sell-out loser...Was he like that when you met him?

The beautiful part of a message board is the opportunity to share your opinions, even if they tend to be less popular with the crowd. The Mod who sent that message was actually speaking of people like yourself who attack people with differing opinions, rather than myself who answered the thread's question.
You do know that you have the option of not wasting time on my opinion if you do not agree with it... do you not? or are you afraid that somehow my disgust with Kiss will rub off on present or potential future fans? is that why you needed to attack me for my opinion?

oh, as for Gene being a pompous ass, no... sorry I didnt meet the moron (and I am not upset about it). I am going by the interviews i have head him on. Two of which were on the Opie and Anthony show which lends a interview atmosphere of "friends hanging out" rather than the normal stiff "so what are you up to now" gibberish. He made it clear that selling his name on anything from a lunchbox to a lamppost is not off limits but signing autographs for his fans is limited.


To avoid having my leg gnawed off for "over-elaboration":


NO.

Hisan is my new favorite person. :D

[Fatal_T]

The beautiful part of a message board is the opportunity to share your opinions, even if they tend to be less popular with the crowd. The Mod who sent that message was actually speaking of people like yourself who attack people with differing opinions, rather than myself who answered the thread's question.
You do know that you have the option of not wasting time on my opinion if you do not agree with it... do you not? or are you afraid that somehow my disgust with Kiss will rub off on present or potential future fans? is that why you needed to attack me for my opinion?

oh, as for Gene being a pompous ass, no... sorry I didnt meet the moron (and I am not upset about it). I am going by the interviews i have head him on. Two of which were on the Opie and Anthony show which lends a interview atmosphere of "friends hanging out" rather than the normal stiff "so what are you up to now" gibberish. He made it clear that selling his name on anything from a lunchbox to a lamppost is not off limits but signing autographs for his fans is limited.



Hisan is my new favorite person. :D

O.K. - you don't like KISS. Fine. Is there a reason you're still posting in the thread?

[Firehouse66]

It's awesome to see the KISS Army starting to stand up here.

Of course, "Rip and Destroy" might be a lot of fun to play too! (bonus points for the ones who can tell me where that came from!)

KISS Meets The Phantom of the Park!!! Who can forget that klassic TV movie?! Thanks for all the great respones to this thread I started. I was beginning to think I was the only KISS fan around here!

[Firehouse66]

I hope I can recreate these guys in RB2 if there's no pre-made KISS facepaint option.
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u262/hdcub/GeneRB.jpg
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u262/hdcub/PETER2.jpg
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u262/hdcub/PAUL.jpg

[Fatal_T]

KISS Meets The Phantom of the Park!!! Who can forget that klassic TV movie?! Thanks for all the great respones to this thread I started. I was beginning to think I was the only KISS fan around here!

And the OP wins!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2roEGV0MVM&feature=related

[Hisan]

O.K. - you don't like KISS. Fine. Is there a reason you're still posting in the thread?


So liking KISS and blathering on about it, picking fights is cool... but having a dissenting opinion, sharing it, and standing up against said picked-fight is over-elaboration?

Someone should change the topic to: Anyone else disappointed with the omission of KISS in RB2? BTW, THIS IS RHETORICAL.

[Desensitized]

It seems this thread has outlived it's usefulness.

[Firehouse66]

And the OP wins!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2roEGV0MVM&feature=related

What kind of self-respecting KISS fan would I be if I had NOT known the answer?? LOL. Good to know I'm not alone anymore. How about The Elder as a DLC lp? Could you imagine the Dark Light solo???? Oops, did I just alienate myself again with the mere mention of The Elder?:D

[Firehouse66]

Rip, Rip, Rip and DESTROY!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=338BKNWGWvo

[Der_Lex]

Play nice, gang, or I'll take away your toys and KISS makeup.

Oh, and a small word of advice: if after reading the thread title you were convinced that the OP was eager to hear from people who just wanted to say 'no', you really should get a bit more familiar with the interpretation of subtext.

[Firehouse66]

Dear Mr. Lex,
You wouldn't do that to the KISS Army, would you? :p I think it's great to see so many KISS fans stepping forward to support their favorite band, just as many other fans of other bands do in other threads. Isn't that what a forum is all about? Can't we all just get along?

[Serpentd]

KISS Meets The Phantom of the Park!!! Who can forget that klassic TV movie?! Thanks for all the great respones to this thread I started. I was beginning to think I was the only KISS fan around here!

Only Kiss fan???? Far from it my friend. The way I see it is each true KISS fan is equivalent to 25-50 other type of bands fans. We have more passion then those 25-50 people together. So if there was say 10 true KISS fans on here, that would easily equate to 250-500 regular everyday music fans.:p

Honestly though, you can never get tired of KISS. They are true rock legends regarless of what others might think. I agree with Fatal_T and the other fans that all Kiss music is killer music. I prefer the old stuff sure, those are the beginning years of what make me love this band so much.

You should see the collections that both me and my wife have of KISS. Yes, my wife is easily the biggest Kiss fan next to me (and you others on here). I personally have every single record by KISS on vinyl in either mint or new condition. I know most here could give a rats ass, but it took me years to get that collection to be all in mint condition. We also have the Ace Frehley Gibson replica which was about over 4K. We actually have so much stuff that it would take up 2 full bedrooms to display it all. Yes we are true KISS fanatics for life and love every part of it.

Sorry about my rambleing on. Just wanted to tell you Kiss fans a little about my Kiss obsession. Also, I wanted to thank Fatal_T for posting that incredible song list. Dude, you are the sh*t as are all of this KISS Army fan base we have in this thread! Kiss has easily got to be the most fun music to listen to hands down. My only problem is trying to figure out which album to listen to first. My wife and I will have Kiss music marathon days when we're cleaning or whatever and start with the first KISS record and keep playing their entire discography until the days end. Then we pick up where we left off the next morning. What a kick in the ass!

Sorry for rambleing again. Gotta go now because I got myself all worked up and need to crank some KISS music! I think I'll start with Alive 1, or Alive 2, well maybe Double Platinum. Hmmm, see what I mean. Ahh hell, I'll play the first thing I pull out. Later for now my KISS ARMY buddies! You all have a new friend, Serpentd!;):)

PS. Sorry my post is all over the place. I can't type as fast as my brain spazzes out. Thanks for understanding everyone. Peace to all, even the non fans.;)

[Der_Lex]

Dear Mr. Lex,
You wouldn't do that to the KISS Army, would you? :p I think it's great to see so many KISS fans stepping forward to support their favorite band, just as many other fans of other bands do in other threads. Isn't that what a forum is all about? Can't we all just get along?

If you didn't read that exact same message that you just typed in my post, you might want to look up that 'subtext' thing as well. :D
My message was merely directed at people harshing the mellow of this thread (I've just shown my age) by pointless bickering.

[Serpentd]

Play nice, gang, or I'll take away your toys and KISS makeup.

Oh, and a small word of advice: if after reading the thread title you were convinced that the OP was eager to hear from people who just wanted to say 'no', you really should get a bit more familiar with the interpretation of subtext.

Thanks for not closing us down Der_Lex. I must have missed some icky posts or something when I was typing my mini novel. Whatever was said, I appreciate you not closing this up on us Kiss fans.:) I know I promise to play nice. I don't have a beef with the non Kiss fans. It's all cool from my standpoint as it doesn't take anything away from what we already have.

Anyway, thanks for the warning first because I know all of us Kiss fans appreciate it. We hate when we have to stop playing with our Gene and Ace action figures.:D

[OrgasmicOrange]

I'm a long time KISS fan and I'm hoping they are included in the 20 downloadable songs.

Tracks I'd like to see (like to get 70's songs first):
70's
Parasite
She
Christine Sixteen
Rock & Roll All Nite (Alive! version)
Shout It Out Loud
Love Gun
Strutter
Deuce
Hotter Than Hell
C'mon And Love Me
Black Diamond
Shock Me
God Of Thunder (live version, but no drum solos)
I Want You
I Stole Your Love
I Was Made For Loving You (live version as it rocks more)
Let Me Go, Rock N Roll

80's/90's
Psycho Circus
Into The Void
I Love It Loud
Creatures Of The Night
Lick It Up
Thrills In The Night
Heaven's On Fire
Tears Are FAlling
Uh! All Night
Who Wants To Be Lonely
King Of The Mountain
All Hell's Breakin' Loose
Crazy Nights
Forever
Dark Light
I
Shandi
Domino
Unholy
Spit

[Kelvis]

Once again, I find yet another thread mostly intended for KISS fans, and find that the trolls have destroyed it with their biased or uninformed posts.

*Once again*, right enough - seems to happen in every KISS thread here. :(



Okay, it's time that another LIFE TIME KISS fan steps up and support the troops! All the haters and "I use to like Kiss" people never understood what Kiss was about. In my opinion, if you are from the 70's even 80's and remember and owned some or all the early KISS music starting with their debut album up through even the Kiss Dynasty album and then grew old and are no longer a Kiss fan, then you never understood it. In fact you probably take music way too serious or let others to this day control what you listen to to some extent. Because you can't be a true Kiss fan and then one day not be a Kiss fan. It just doesn't happen like that...

Fantastic post Serpentd, well said mate :)


Oh, and a small word of advice: if after reading the thread title you were convinced that the OP was eager to hear from people who just wanted to say 'no', you really should get a bit more familiar with the interpretation of subtext.

Thanks for that Der_Lex - Getting a bit fed-up of the haters on this forum. I was going to say something along those lines, but I felt sure if I'd pointed that out I'd have been shouted down not allowing anyone to express themselves :P

[SteveoKnievo]

KISS is a band with a huge fanbase and would likely get some really good DLC numbers if they put out some more popular songs. Anyways, what's with all the hate? I have seen a lot of posts trying to inform that KISS has no skill.

[Lektorfc]

Maybe perhaps there isn't any kiss in RB2 because they have a full album download coming. I can dream can't I. *thinking positive*

[Fatal_T]

What kind of self-respecting KISS fan would I be if I had NOT known the answer?? LOL. Good to know I'm not alone anymore. How about The Elder as a DLC lp? Could you imagine the Dark Light solo???? Oops, did I just alienate myself again with the mere mention of The Elder?:D

The Elder. I've dubbed that album as "KISS for the Advanced Fan" :D. I would love to have the Elder as album DLC! Just to play the solo in "The Oath"! Or to sing "Just A Boy" which is actually one of my favorite KISS songs (actually saw Paul try to wing his way through it at a convention :p). I think the hardcore fans would like it, but I'm not sure if the Rock Band Regiment of the KISS Army is strong enough to support it.

At this point I'll be happy with any KISS DLC again!

Serpentd - great post man. I envy your collection. I've got a few things here and there, but my greatest asset was my KISS CD collection that I assembled over years and years only to have some little bastard break into my car years ago and steal it. :( Thank GOD for iTunes.

One of these days I'll have to post up video of my 5-year old daughter singing "Calling Dr. Love" - it is a sight to see. :D

[Sgt Pipper]

Yes, I'm disappointed that there isn't any KISS in Rock Band 2. I'm keeping my hopes up for DLC though. There are literally dozens of songs that would be a great fit for this game.

A few songs I'd love to see:
- Parasite
- Let Me Go, Rock 'n Roll
- 100,000 years
- Watchin' You
- She
- Deuce
- War Machine
- Love Gun
- Black Diamond
- I Want You
- Shock Me

[Kelvis]

(I didn't include "Nothing Compares To You" from the Detroit Rock City soundtrack, because that sort of syrupy ballad doesn't belong on Rock Band).

Fatal_T! You *must* send me a copy of KISS performing that famous Prince composition! ;P

[Fatal_T]

Fatal_T! You *must* send me a copy of KISS performing that famous Prince composition! ;P

LOL - As soon as I saw that, I realized my faux pas! What I should have said was "Nothing Can Keep Me From You!" OOPS.

NICE avatar, by the way!

[Mycool]

Yes, I'm disappointed that there isn't any KISS in Rock Band 2. I'm keeping my hopes up for DLC though. There are literally dozens of songs that would be a great fit for this game.

A few songs I'd love to see:
- Parasite
- Let Me Go, Rock 'n Roll
- 100,000 years
- Watchin' You
- She
- Deuce
- War Machine
- Love Gun
- Black Diamond
- I Want You
- Shock Me

Holy god, these are absolutely fantastic choices! These songs would be monumentally fun to play in Rock Band. I LOVE them all (I'm pretty sure if "She" is ever released as DLC I will probably faint), good work sir...you certainly know your KISS. Now please go and get a job at HMX and make this happen!!! :p

[Strutter]

I'd love it if they released "Mr. Speed" as DLC, what a freakin' great song that is. I wonder why KISS never plays it at any shows. Heck, I bought all the Kissology DVDs, and none of the concerts had that on the setlist. What a bummer.

That and "Plaster Caster". Now that song just rocks. I love pounding this song in my car(which has 4 12" subs), just awesome. People turn and look at stoplights, I get such a kick to pump KISS extremely loud...And I'm proud to do so.

I'm also stoked cuz I'm going to the Vegas show on August 29th at The Palms..... KISS rules.

[darkangel]

O.K. - you don't like KISS. Fine. Is there a reason you're still posting in the thread?

you keep asking me questions and then complaining that I respond... you have issues.


So liking KISS and blathering on about it, picking fights is cool... but having a dissenting opinion, sharing it, and standing up against said picked-fight is over-elaboration?

Someone should change the topic to: Anyone else disappointed with the omission of KISS in RB2? BTW, THIS IS RHETORICAL.

Amen Brother.


Play nice, gang, or I'll take away your toys and KISS makeup.

Oh, and a small word of advice: if after reading the thread title you were convinced that the OP was eager to hear from people who just wanted to say 'no', you really should get a bit more familiar with the interpretation of subtext.

I love it when a mod sides up with the negative aspect of message boards. The OP asked a question and "t-cell" (whatever his name is) has a problem with people who dont think Kiss is the greatest band is history. He had no reason to attack me as my opinion could just as well been forgotten on page 3... and now you (in your wisdom) decide that my answering the thread question wasnt as important as those who scream out "yes" and gave out lists of every song they ever wanted in the game. By your own accord, this thread should just be filled with yeses and nos anyone who filled in "why" should probbaly be banned for not being "a bit more familiar with the interpretation of subtext".
Before you ban me, for pointing out your clear error in judgment, allow me to give you some advice. In my years of leadership (including modship in various sites), I have found it to be much more intelligent to read the thread completely and see how an argument came to be BEFORE I picked a side and made idol threats to posters. It tends to make me a more fair and just Mod when I decide to vocalize my opinion of the situation and/or ban people.

thanks for listening.

[Desensitized]

I love it when a mod sides up with the negative aspect of message boards. The OP asked a question and "t-cell" (whatever his name is) has a problem with people who dont think Kiss is the greatest band is history. He had no reason to attack me as my opinion could just as well been forgotten on page 3... and now you (in your wisdom) decide that my answering the thread question wasnt as important as those who scream out "yes" and gave out lists of every song they ever wanted in the game. By your own accord, this thread should just be filled with yeses and nos anyone who filled in "why" should probbaly be banned for not being "a bit more familiar with the interpretation of subtext".
Before you ban me, for pointing out your clear error in judgment, allow me to give you some advice. In my years of leadership (including modship in various sites), I have found it to be much more intelligent to read the thread completely and see how an argument came to be BEFORE I picked a side and made idol threats to posters. It tends to make me a more fair and just Mod when I decide to vocalize my opinion of the situation and/or ban people.

thanks for listening.Dead on.

If this is the new 'OMG Kiss are awesome thread!' then it belongs in Ultimate Setlist. Right now it has very little to do with Rock Band 2.

[woobwoob]

I'd like to see "I Wanna Hear It Loud"

[masterantonio]

I'm kind of glad there's no Kiss, not much of a fan. The only songs I like by them is rock and roll all night, or unholy.

[Serpentd]

I personaly would love to have any good classic Kiss. I'd even be up for a greatest hits album down the road (God knows they have enough of them to choose from) so it should make HMX job that much easier. KISS already picked the songs, now just put them on Rock Band.

As far as people not liking Kiss, hey that's 100% fine with me. Of coarse people aren't going to like what others love. Not really a big deal. It seems that a lot of people love Muse and Oasis (Just as an example) and I personally can't listen to more then 10 seconds of the songs I've heard without changing the station.

But I also realize that I haven't even heard of probably 95% of their material. So I'm not in a position to hate a band if I haven't heard at least 50% of their music. Especially if a band like Kiss that has over 25 years of music. In a situation like that it would take me awhile to judge a band because of the ever ending changes in their music.

Then again, sometimes a band has such a bad sound that we don't even want to try and learn about the band. So I understand where everyone is comming from. It's just that KISS fans like myself are very passionate about the band and music and everything. So it's just human nature to defend something your passionate about. This is why I won't ever personally diss on others taste too hard. It's rather pointless and immature actually.

MORE KISS FOR ROCK BAND

[onduvalst]

I have found it to be much more intelligent to read the thread completely and see how an argument came to be BEFORE I picked a side and made idol threats to posters. It tends to make me a more fair and just Mod when I decide to vocalize my opinion of the situation and/or ban people.

thanks for listening.

Its idle not idol..........

I say that one of the 20 free better be god of thunder.......

[gervdog]

I'm truely disappointed that KISS didn't make it into RB2. But I really hope we get a DLC Pack from them, or at the very least there be at least 1 KISS song in the 20 Free Songs. And I saw a comment about Knights in Satan's Service, well unless I'm wrong, I believe KISS themselves said that is not what KISS stands for.

It's not what it stands for. They were driving around Queens when Ace (I think) thought they should name the band "F**K", but then they thought that if they ever got any radio play the DJ wouldn't be able to name the band on air, so they "toned it down" to Kiss.
As for DLC - let's hear some "New York Groove". For some reason it reminds me of a commercial from the '70's at a roller disco.

[Serpentd]

It's not what it stands for. They were driving around Queens when Ace (I think) thought they should name the band "F**K", but then they thought that if they ever got any radio play the DJ wouldn't be able to name the band on air, so they "toned it down" to Kiss.
As for DLC - let's hear some "New York Groove". For some reason it reminds me of a commercial from the '70's at a roller disco.

Dude, I totaly dig your avatar. That was my very first album I purchaced when I was like 9 or 10. Kick ass. Also, "New York Groove" would be sweet. But then again I love every song on that album. Actually Rip it out would be lots of fun as well. :)

[Fatal_T]

Dude, I totaly dig your avatar. That was my very first album I purchaced when I was like 9 or 10. Kick ass. Also, "New York Groove" would be sweet. But then again I love every song on that album. Actually Rip it out would be lots of fun as well. :)

"Ozone" was always my favorite from Ace's album, along with "New York Groove" and "Rip It Out".

[darkangel]

Its idle not idol..........

I say that one of the 20 free better be god of thunder.......

ehh... I cant be right about everything :p

off the argument, I really do hope you Kiss fans get some of your favorite songs. Despite my opinion of the band (unpopular as it is) I do want everyone to get at least one song that they really love. I say this with all the selfishness in the world because I can think of a dozen songs I am longing for as deeply as any of you desire any of the long list of Kiss songs.

[Fatal_T]

ehh... I cant be right about everything :p

off the argument, I really do hope you Kiss fans get some of your favorite songs. Despite my opinion of the band (unpopular as it is) I do want everyone to get at least one song that they really love. I say this with all the selfishness in the world because I can think of a dozen songs I am longing for as deeply as any of you desire any of the long list of Kiss songs.

It seems that so far, almost everyone has gotten something they liked/wanted as DLC - may that trend continue into the future!

[Kelvis]

I love it thanks for listening.

Jeebus, let it go dude. You keep rattling on about being 'attacked' for your opinion...Nothing of the sort. You were took to task not for making your point, or having an opinion, or not thinking KISS were the greatest band in the universe but going ON AND ON AND ON about how much you hated them.

My point was, you could have made your point and left it at that, but you decided to reiterate your message 3 times in the same post, then went onto bashing one of the band member's image, and then another band members tongue (lol of course, these impact on the bands' music) before finally getting your facts wrong regarding 'half the band being fired for partying'. You weren't contributing, you were just bashing KISS in a KISS-related thread and dissing other people's taste, plain & simple.


Now, next point - nowhere did I personally insult you or 'attack' you.

Since then, you've claimed I had 'proven' myself equal to a 'pompous ass & sell-out loser' (glad you're not my lawyer) and I since I called you out for needlessly bashing the band when you could just have made your point and left, I presume in your post above when you say "t-cell" (whatever his name is)" - you're attempting to address me? Very mature btw, did you learn this 'name calling' strategy during your years of modship-leadership?

You're quick to accuse someone else of 'attacking' you, and even quicker handing out the churlish insults yourself.


But I also realize that I haven't even heard of probably 95% of their material. So I'm not in a position to hate a band if I haven't heard at least 50% of their music. Especially if a band like Kiss that has over 25 years of music. In a situation like that it would take me awhile to judge a band because of the ever ending changes in their music.

Then again, sometimes a band has such a bad sound that we don't even want to try and learn about the band. So I understand where everyone is comming from. It's just that KISS fans like myself are very passionate about the band and music and everything. So it's just human nature to defend something your passionate about. This is why I won't ever personally diss on others taste too hard. It's rather pointless and immature actually.

QFT.

[KISSfan84]

"Speedin' Back to My Baby" was always my favorite on Ace's solo album...:cool:

[Kelvis]

Speedin' Back to My Baby was always my favorite on Ace's solo album...:cool:

Another vote for 'Speedin' Back' here - I love the story he tells during the song - 'maybe I should turn around, maybe I should stop' :)

Rip It Out comes a close second for me, I thought Ace's vocals really shone there.

[Fatal_T]

Another vote for 'Speedin' Back' here - I love the story he tells during the song - 'maybe I should turn around, maybe I should stop' :)

Rip It Out comes a close second for me, I thought Ace's vocals really shone there.

Ace's album really marked the turning point for him - too bad it was the beginning of the end for him.

[Kelvis]

Ace's album really marked the turning point for him - too bad it was the beginning of the end for him.

I always wished Ace had sung on his original compositions from the start - studio versions of 'Cold Gin', 'Parasite', 'Strange Ways' etc with Ace on vox would have been absolutely *killer*. Seen a couple of bootlegs from the reunion era where he and Gene shared lead vox on Cold Gin and it kicked all kinds of ass! :)

[Ramirez16]

I'd like to see "I Wanna Hear It Loud"I think you mean "I Love It Loud".

Edit:

The Best of Kiss: Rock Band Edition (My little Kiss wish list) $29.99 (hopefully)

01. 2,000 Man
02. Black Diamond (Alive!)
03. Cold Gin (Alive!)
04. Creatures of the Night
05. Deuce (Alive!) (You wanted the best, you got the best!)
06. Dirty Livin'
07. God Gave Rock 'N' Roll to You II
08. God of Thunder (Alive II)
09. Got to Choose (Alive!)
10. Heaven's on Fire (Got to have at least one track from this era.)
11. Hotter than Hell (Alive!)
12. Love Gun (Alive II)
13. Psycho Circus
14. Rock and Roll All Nite (Alive!)
15. Rocket Ride
16. Save Your Love
17. She (Alive!)
18. Shock Me (Alive II) (End it before the solo if needed)
19. Shout It Out Loud (Alive II)
20. War Machine

Even though there's others I would like, I would be glad to have these (most likely would only get 8-10 of these if that).

[cgouch2]

Another vote for 'Speedin' Back' here - I love the story he tells during the song - 'maybe I should turn around, maybe I should stop' :)

Rip It Out comes a close second for me, I thought Ace's vocals really shone there.

Indeed, Rip It Out ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bdpt0Mtv31Q ) would be a gem for Rock Band. There is a NICE little drum fill moment in the middle that would be nice to look forward to each time... almost has a "Won't Get Fooled Again" kind of feel. Speeding Back, NY Groove... of all ironies, I had the Ace solo album playing on my drive to work today so it's all fresh in the mind... good stuff on there.

An Ace DLC pack would be a nice specialty - maybe Guitar Legends Pack 1 or some such :-) (Legends, Masters, you get the idea).

On this would be:

1) Shock Me
2) Rip It Out
3) Rocket Ride
4) Talk To Me
5) Into The Void

for example... Naturally others would agree or disagree... Some he wrote (or co-wrote) and didn't sing while in KISS would be nice as well... as others mentioned Strange Ways, Cold Gin, Parasite as examples. Some of the stuff from the Elder with his name associated with it was good as well (Dark Light etc., though I have read many a time that it's not always his guitar work during this era... Unmasked, Elder, Creatures etc.)

lets here it for an ACE sub-pack (and naturally a KISS pack!) Especially before something happens like GH franchise gobbles him up exclusively or something.

SpaceAce fan for life!

[Kelvis]

Indeed, Rip It Out would be a gem for Rock Band. There is a NICE little drum fill moment in the middle that would be nice to look forward to each time... almost has a "Won't Get Fooled Again" kind of feel.

Hey buddy, I *totally* love that drum solo too! I may be wrong, but I'm sure I read somewhere that it wasn't arranged, Anton Fig just went for it and that's what ended up on the tape - if so: Great drumming Anton! :)

An 'Ace' pack (deck? :P) would be great, but I think we'll be lucky just to get more KISS first! Ah - what the hell, just release them both Harmonix, we'll buy 'em! :)

[KISSfan84]

How about a little "2000 Man"? :cool:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNHl7j-RqHw

[brobot]

Kiss should be in the game.

On another note this thread reminds me of that Family Guy episode when Peter and Lois follow Kiss stock.

[KISSfan84]

How about some vintage Ace from 1977? :cool:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkUaQmH3-1g

[MonsterZero]

Yeah! Sad huh

I'm sure that they will have some DLC soon.........hopefully??

[thuman123]

i wouldn't mind KISS, it wouldn't kill me if they weren't on there though, i was mad when i looked at the RB2 set list, and this is gonna be the first game not to have a Black Sabbath song on disc..
GH: Ironman
GH2: War Pigs
GH3: Paranoid
RB: Paranoid
RB2: nothing :(

[BigMonkE]

Paul Stanley was just on an interview with a local news station about an hour ago. Apparently he has an art exhibit tonight at a local mall. Neat.

[brobot]

I'm sorry just had to post this. Works so well with this thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1GWDayyapQ&feature=related

[Fatal_T]

Kiss should be in the game.

On another note this thread reminds me of that Family Guy episode when Peter and Lois follow Kiss stock.

PETER: "Nobody wants to be Peter Criss! Not even Peter Criss!"

LOL, I love that episode!

Or:

PETER: "My wife did KISS!"
LOIS: "And J.Geils...."
PETER: "WHAT?"
LOIS: "Nothing!"

Some good ideas being put forth here - an Ace pack would be fun. Gotta throw in some of his solo stuff - "In The Night", "Rock Soldiers", "Insane", "Trouble Walkin'".

And I've determined that "100,000 Years" must be in any KISS pack we get - I watched that on KISSOLOGY I last night, and I'm loving that song more and more everytime I hear it.

BROBOT: You rule, that's pretty funny :D

[AceFrehley]

As a fellow KISS Army member, it is awesome to see the true KISS fans come out to defend "The Hottest Band In The World". As far as RB2, I hope and pray that we get some kind of KISS DLC pack in the very near future. Here are some of the songs that I would love to see in a KISS DLC pack:

"Mr. Speed"
"Shock Me"
"Parasite"
"Rock And Roll All Nite"
"Cold Gin"
"Shout It Out Loud"
"Deuce"
"Got To Choose"
"Firehouse"
"Black Diamond"
"Psycho Circus"
"Into The Void"
"Lick It Up"
"Heaven's On Fire"
"Crazy, Crazy Nights"
"Love Gun"

P.S. I am really shocked to see that there are only 2 KISS songs available for RB, but there are many other lesser known bands that have 3 or more songs. I can almost guarantee that KISS opened up their entire catalog to Harmonix. There should be no reason why we can't have at least a KISS 6 pack of songs. Rock on fellow KISS Army members!!!

[cgouch2]

Very nice list "Ace"... I'm surprised the amount of times I'm reading Mr.Speed! That is awesome... I've mentioned it too and even sent a direct message to HMX feedback about that very song (as well as others by KISS of course)... it's a real good one for sure. Also, as mentioned in a post or two ago, "Rip It Out" has all the ingredients to make a good RB song as well... pretty decent drum line through it as well.

[Fatal_T]

P.S. I am really shocked to see that there are only 2 KISS songs available for RB, but there are many other lesser known bands that have 3 or more songs. I can almost guarantee that KISS opened up their entire catalog to Harmonix. There should be no reason why we can't have at least a KISS 6 pack of songs. Rock on fellow KISS Army members!!!

I'm in agreement - I think the somewhat lackluster sales of "Calling Dr. Love" might have soured the powers that be on KISS DLC, so I think if we can get noticed here, we may have a shot. As far as the catalog goes, I'm in agreement - especially now that Gene has played Rock Band, I'm sure he's aware that he can $.50/download for his music, and he'll be open to giving out pretty much anything.

C'mon, HMX!

WE NEED MORE KISS IN ROCKBAND!

[hewhoislikegod]

I personally don't care for KISS.

Someone already said it best when they said, "They use over the top stage antics to cover up that they're not that good". That is totally true.

I've watched a couple of documentarys on KISS and even the band members say that they had no experience when they started playing. That's why they have HUGE power chord riffs, that last for 20 seconds, and all of their songs are like 3:00 long. It's to stretch out the time of the song while having to play the least amount of notes.

I also hate the fact that KISS fans are so emotional about the band, that they will threaten you with violence just for saying your negative opinion about the band.

KISS, to me, is a one hit wonder. I will recognize that Rock and Roll All Night was a big hit, but still reiterates the whole, playing very few notes and stretching the time out. I listened to the track a while ago and, my goodness, there are no lyrics. They just say the same thing over and over, for like 5 minutes.


So, no, I'm not concerned with the lack of KISS in RB2. One, or two more songs and then forget about them until Rock Band 5.

[Fatal_T]

I also hate the fact that KISS fans are so emotional about the band, that they will threaten you with violence just for saying your negative opinion about the band.

::rests shillelagh on shoulder::

Say what, now? :D

[AceFrehley]

My question to Harmonix is why would you pick "Calling Dr. Love" as the first DLC song, when everyone knows that "Rock And Roll All Nite" is the most widely known and one of the most popular KISS songs in the world. I just hope that Harmonix didn't release a less popular song just so the sales would suck and that would justify them to not release any more KISS songs. Please Harmonix, satisfy the KISS Army members. As Fatal_T stated:

WE NEED MORE KISS IN ROCK BAND!!!

[Fatal_T]

My question to Harmonix is why would you pick "Calling Dr. Love" as the first DLC song, when everyone knows that "Rock And Roll All Nite" is the most widely known and one of the most popular KISS songs in the world. I just hope that Harmonix didn't release a less popular song just so the sales would suck and that would justify them to not release any more KISS songs. Please Harmonix, satisfy the KISS Army members. As Fatal_T stated:

WE NEED MORE KISS IN ROCK BAND!!!

I doubt that's the situation. If I remember correctly, the original intent with DLC was to go for more deep cuts, rather than immediately recognizable stuff. "Calling Dr. Love" doesn't really count as a deep cut for KISS fans, since it IS a fan favorite and usually gets played live. However (and this is going by responses I've seen to this thread and others) many of the younger RB players really have no inkling as to who or what KISS is, apart from the costumes and the makeup. They may know "God Gave Rock and Roll to You, Pt. II", or "Rock and Roll All Nite", but that's really it. Unfortunately, KISS just isn't as popular these days.

That's why it falls to the KISS Army to get the music out there, and get the people educated.

HEAR THAT HMX?! GIVE US MORE KISS OR WE'LL SHOW UP WITH AN ARMY!! No wait, that's been done before....curses... :D

P.S. With regards to "Rock and Roll All Nite", I think we fall into a unique situation. The classic version from "Alive!" is the one that best fits RB (though conceivably one of the live versions from Alive III, Melbourne, or hell, the Brooklyn Bridge show could be used), and I have a bad feeling that the masters for that particular track won't work for RB - hell they didn't work for GH3, they had to cover it. If the album version from "Dressed To Kill" got released as DLC - I don't the community would take kindly to it. I think if there are master tapes from the Brooklyn Bridge show that may be our best hope for "Rock and Roll All Nite"! It's my favorite song, I've got to have it!

P.P.S. Just FC'd "Calling Dr. Love" on bass again - I should be in the top 50 once it updates! :)

[AceFrehley]

It just aggravates me that there are 6 or 7 Police songs on RB, there are many Rush songs on RB including another one for RB2, and there are 6 songs or so for Red Hot Chili Peppers and NIN. Now don't get me wrong, those are 4 great bands, but Harmonix needs to even out the playing field by adding more KISS songs, and not just KISS songs, but what about The Rolling Stones, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Deep Purple, etc. I would also like to see some Styx, REO Speedwagon, Def Leppard, and .38 Special in RB2.

[Fatal_T]

...not just KISS songs, but what about The Rolling Stones, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Deep Purple, etc. I would also like to see some Styx, REO Speedwagon, Def Leppard, and .38 Special in RB2.

You, sir, are a great American. I am complete agreement with seeing more from all of those bands.

[DirkDee]

Im sure greed simmons wont pass up on the chance of making some money on this.
paul I think couldnt care less as long as he can paint some ****ty pictures so im sure more kiss will be released

im a huge kiss fan and been it since I was about 10 years old (im 30 now), but I dont support them anymore. the way gene has treated fans and destroyed the kiss legacy in the past 10 years or so makes me ashamed of being a fan.

that being said I would love any kiss tracks or albums in the game. DRC and calling dr love is some of my favorite songs to play on drums.

kiss, alive!, rock & roll over or revenge would be killer albums to get in the game. ( If I had to choose from kiss, hotter than hell and dressed to kill I choose kiss. first album is very underrated I think and has some of their most classic track still sounding good to this day)

Alive would be the holy grail. its kiss at their best. its so raw and full of energy.

rock & roll over is also a incredible underrated album. it also has mr speed on it and that is one of paul's best songs of all time IMO.

I think revenge is one of their best albums. its just that good. I want that as download DLC. I will pay 100$.hehe

[Fatal_T]

( If I had to choose from kiss, hotter than hell and dressed to kill I choose kiss. first album is very underrated I think and has some of their most classic track still sounding good to this day)

Agreed! Most of that first album is classic stuff:

Deuce
Strutter
Nothin' To Lose
Firehouse
Cold Gin
Let Me Know (I drool thinking about that one as DLC!)
100,000 Years
Black Diamond

("Kissin' Time" and "Love Theme From KISS" might not work so well).

Hell of a KISS-pack right there! Right on DirkDee!

[AceFrehley]

I figured I would go ahead and bump this post, that way we can prove to Harmonix how powerful the KISS Army is. Hopefully, it will also show them how badly the KISS Army members want more KISS DLC!:D

[hewhoislikegod]

Dear Ace and Fatal,

Get a room.

[Desensitized]

I love that this STILL isn't in Ultimate Setlist yet.

Geez. :rolleyes:

[Serpentd]

Dear Ace and Fatal,

Get a room.


Count me in with these two killer dudes. Where ever they go, I go. That's what the KISS ARMY is all about. Now of coarse, by getting a room you mean we need to get together and make a bigger plan to get more KISS in Rock Band, right? That's what I thought.

Yo guys what's up? Looks like I missed a bit of action here, sorry guys, sort of had a bad day because of my back. But I'm here to support our cause with you guys till the end. You can always count me in when it comes to our beloved KISS. Yeah Baby!!!
WE WANT AND NEED OUR KISS FIX NOW!!! MORE KISS!

[LinkStrifeLeonhart]

It just aggravates me that there are 6 or 7 Police songs on RB, there are many Rush songs on RB including another one for RB2, and there are 6 songs or so for Red Hot Chili Peppers and NIN. Now don't get me wrong, those are 4 great bands, but Harmonix needs to even out the playing field by adding more KISS songs, and not just KISS songs, but what about The Rolling Stones, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Deep Purple, etc. I would also like to see some Styx, REO Speedwagon, Def Leppard, and .38 Special in RB2.

And there are thirteen Who songs, about to be fourteen when RB2 comes out. Ten Judas Priest songs about to be eleven. Nine The Cars songs. Fifteen songs from The Pixies. Six Grateful Dead songs soon to be seven (and even more!). Seven Boston songs. Six Weezer songs.

I don't really see what this post is about.

[KISSfan84]

Yo guys what's up? Looks like I missed a bit of action here, sorry guys, sort of had a bad day because of my back. But I'm here to support our cause with you guys till the end. You can always count me in when it comes to our beloved KISS. Yeah Baby!!!
WE WANT AND NEED OUR KISS FIX NOW!!! MORE KISS!

LOL. Spoken like a true KISS fan! I've got a problem back too; damn degenerative disks.
Maybe we should start a pre-geriatric division of the KISS Army. I can pretend my cane is a guitar. Fatal, bring your walker, we can attach the drum pads to it.
Serpentd, turn up your hearing aid dammit, this is important! And would someone please turn up Firehouse66's oxygen? He's turning blue; not to mention the wheezing is drowning out Ace's solo.
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to find a pair of brown socks to wear with my sandals and plaid shorts. Hmmm, wonder if those will be clothing options in RB2?

[Fatal_T]

We're no different than any of the other folks clamoring for Muse, Zeppelin, SOAD, Incubus - what have you.

We just want HMX to take note that there are still KISS fans out here who want some more DLC from the the hottest band in the land! And hopefully, we'll get it!

[KozmicRiff]

Kiss is cool and they have 2 songs in the game so far... I hope for more, but I am not disapointed in RB2 because it does not have Kiss.

Kiss would make some great DLC....

[R33DH4M]

Anyone else disappointed with the omission of KISS in RB2?

Whose to say that the band won't be DLC at some point?

[master2uall]

nope , not one bit, loving every minute of it.

[gmount]

There definitely needs to be more KISS in Rock Band. HMX has to put more KISS DLC out because not only do we get the pleasure of playing some of the greatest Rock n Roll tunes ever, but HMX also wins becuase there will be many KISS fans out there willing to pay money for their favourite bands DLC. Some of my selections probably will be,

-100,000 Years
-Black Diamond
-Take Me
-I Stole Your Love
-Love Gun
-2000 Man
-Parasite
-Hotter Than Hell
-Firehouse
-Love Her All I can
-King Of The Night Time World
-I Love It Loud

I always try to make all my lists a bit different so I can show many different great KISS songs.

[kanerules]

There definitely needs to be more KISS in Rock Band. HMX has to put more KISS DLC out because not only do we get the pleasure of playing some of the greatest Rock n Roll tunes ever, but HMX also wins becuase there will be many KISS fans out there willing to pay money for their favourite bands DLC. Some of my selections probably will be,

-100,000 Years
-Black Diamond!!!!!
-Take Me
-I Stole Your Love
-Love Gun
-2000 Man
-Parasite
-Hotter Than Hell
-Firehouse
-Love Her All I can
-King Of The Night Time World
-I Love It Loud

I always try to make all my lists a bit different so I can show many different great KISS songs.

As much as I would love any of those KISS songs...I've bolded the ones I would LOVE.:D

[gmount]

As much as I would love any of those KISS songs...I've bolded the ones I would LOVE.:D

I agree with you boldind Black diamond and adding exclamation marks because that is my favourite KISS song. I always put that in my lists so HMX can see it! :D

[kanerules]

I agree with you boldind Black diamond and adding exclamation marks because that is my favourite KISS song. I always put that in my lists so HMX can see it! :D

That's actually the first song I ever used the "request a song" for. :D

[Serpentd]

There definitely needs to be more KISS in Rock Band. HMX has to put more KISS DLC out because not only do we get the pleasure of playing some of the greatest Rock n Roll tunes ever, but HMX also wins becuase there will be many KISS fans out there willing to pay money for their favourite bands DLC. Some of my selections probably will be,

-100,000 Years
-Black Diamond
-Take Me
-I Stole Your Love
-Love Gun
-2000 Man
-Parasite
-Hotter Than Hell
-Firehouse
-Love Her All I can
-King Of The Night Time World
-I Love It Loud

I always try to make all my lists a bit different so I can show many different great KISS songs.


Love your list! I would like to add 'Cold Gin' to that if I may plus every song that Ace Frehley sings in including his solo album.:D Hell yes we need more KISS. Even if it's DLC, I don't care at this point. I am bummed that they don't seem to be in RB2 meaning the 20 free downloads we're not sure of yet. So if they don't make the cut, then I want a MINIMUM of a 6 pack. Preferably and album and/or a 10-12 pack.

This way all the haters don't have a reason to ***** if it ends up as DLC. Though they will anyway. But you can't deny one of our favorite bands of all time in the game. You can walk up to anybody on the street and they will know who KISS is, whether they like them or not doesn't matter. They are just to big to not be in the game bottom line. Name me one other band that has a following like KISS. You won't be able to, not to mention their still alive and well after 34 years of music even if they don't have 2 of the original members currently on tour, at least their all still alive.;):)

Plus if they can put that many songs in by the Pixies, there's no reason at all to deny us Kiss fans. They took care of the Pixies fans that are far and few between. Nothing against the Pixies or their fans, just my comparison on the fan base is all.

[Ferocious Q]

HMX should definitely consider more KISS... WTF I mean if they want to make an outstanding Rock band game, Doesn't KISS follow the "Rock Band" IDEA???
:)

[AceFrehley]

Love your list! I would like to add 'Cold Gin' to that if I may plus every song that Ace Frehley sings in including his solo album.:D Hell yes we need more KISS. Even if it's DLC, I don't care at this point. I am bummed that they don't seem to be in RB2 meaning the 20 free downloads we're not sure of yet. So if they don't make the cut, then I want a MINIMUM of a 6 pack. Preferably and album and/or a 10-12 pack.

This way all the haters don't have a reason to ***** if it ends up as DLC. Though they will anyway. But you can't deny one of our favorite bands of all time in the game. You can walk up to anybody on the street and they will know who KISS is, whether they like them or not doesn't matter. They are just to big to not be in the game bottom line. Name me one other band that has a following like KISS. You won't be able to, not to mention their still alive and well after 34 years of music even if they don't have 2 of the original members currently on tour, at least their all still alive.;):)

Plus if they can put that many songs in by the Pixies, there's no reason at all to deny us Kiss fans. They took care of the Pixies fans that are far and few between. Nothing against the Pixies or their fans, just my comparison on the fan base is all.

Serpentd, my fellow KISS Army brother! I agree with you 100%! If Harmonix can put all of those Pixies songs in Rock Band, not to mention all of the Rush songs that will soon be in Rock Band, then there is no reason on this earth why they can't please all of us KISS fans by putting some more KISS songs in Rock Band! I would like at minimum, a 6 pack of songs, preferably 12 songs though. Attention all of the KISS Army members, we need to unite and keep this thread going so that Harmonix knows how badly we want more KISS in Rock Band!

Rock Band needs more KISS DLC!

[Fatal_T]

Keep it up!

WE WANT KISS! WE WANT KISS! WE WANT KISS!

12-pack, 6-pack - heck even a 3-pack or a new single would work for me! I just want more songs from the hottest band in the land!

(and then DLC outfits, instruments, etc....:D)

[ShiningIdeal]

While I really loathe listening to KISS, I could get behind them putting Beth in the game...

[Overdrive]

They already got the KISS songs I like in the game (CDL is one of the few DLC songs I've gotten) so I wouldn't mind if more was released or not.

[Firehouse66]

WE WANT KISS!
WE WANT KISS!
WE WANT KISS!
You Wanted The Best, BUT You Haven't Gotten It Yet!!!!!!????

[Kobal2]

The royal we. I certainly don't.

[Fatal_T]

The royal we. I certainly don't.

"Royal we" my butt. We all want KISS :D

[Strutter]

I can't wait for more KISS in RB. A nice pack would have "Strutter", "Shout it out loud", "Rock & Roll All Nite", maybe even a lesser known classic like "Mr. Speed"...

And I can't wait till friday, gonna see them live in Vegas at The Palms....

[Firehouse66]

I can't wait for more KISS in RB. A nice pack would have "Strutter", "Shout it out loud", "Rock & Roll All Nite", maybe even a lesser known classic like "Mr. Speed"...

And I can't wait till friday, gonna see them live in Vegas at The Palms....

You lucky bastard!!! Have a GREAT time!!!!!!!!

[Fatal_T]

I can't wait for more KISS in RB. A nice pack would have "Strutter", "Shout it out loud", "Rock & Roll All Nite", maybe even a lesser known classic like "Mr. Speed"...

And I can't wait till friday, gonna see them live in Vegas at The Palms....

Cool! Let us know how it goes!

[AceFrehley]

We can thank Paul Stanley for KISS not having more than a handful of shows in the U.S. this year. He has to go tour the country showing off his artwork! All I know is that KISS better tour the U.S. next year! We all know that Tommy and Eric would love to keep touring and probably Gene as well, but Paul had to ruin it.

[Ace96]

On June 28, the Kiss Alive/Worldwide Tour began at Tiger Stadium in Detroit, Michigan in front of a sold-out crowd of 39,867 fans. The tour lasted for 192 shows over eleven months and earned $43.6 million, making Kiss the top-drawing concert act of 1996.

For all the haters out there......F U!

I bet some of the haters favorite bands are influenced by KISS!

Motley Crue
Lenny Kravitz
Poison
Garth Brooks
Nirvana
STP
Anthrax
Alice In Chains
Skid Row
Pantera
Rob Zombie
Marilyn Manson
Smashing Pumpkins

Just to name a few!


AND LETS NOT FORGET THE GREATEST STAGE SHOW IN THE ENTIRE WORLD!!!

[Fatal_T]

I bet some of the haters favorite bands are influenced by KISS!

That is absolutely correct, sir!

Of course the haters would rather turn blue and choke on their vomit rather than admit it - God, that's fun to watch! :p

[Mickey Buns]

KISS we just got SRV, are you freaking kidding me, KISS has about 3 or 4 cords to there songs, SRV... I bow down to

[hewhoislikegod]

KISS: "I I I WANNA ROCK AND ROLL ALL NIIIGHT!"

Louis: "and have a wonderful..........time" no wait "and somethin' somethin' all day"

Gene: "Ah man. I just lost faith in mankind".

Ace and Peter: CHATANOOGA CHOO-CHOO!!!

[peachtosser25]

eh, I'm not disappointed.

although I wouldnt mind, kiss is fun to sing

[Kelvis]

KISS we just got SRV, are you freaking kidding me, KISS has about 3 or 4 cords to there songs, SRV... I bow down to

Bob Dylan and The Rolling Stones (among thousands of others) have about 3 or 4 chords to many of their songs, does that make them bad?

The funny thing is, Stevie Ray Vaughn is a blues artist, and of course the basic blues progression uses 3 chords...:P

[Young_Nastyman]

On June 28, the Kiss Alive/Worldwide Tour began at Tiger Stadium in Detroit, Michigan in front of a sold-out crowd of 39,867 fans. The tour lasted for 192 shows over eleven months and earned $43.6 million, making Kiss the top-drawing concert act of 1996.

For all the haters out there......F U!

I bet some of the haters favorite bands are influenced by KISS!

Motley Crue
Lenny Kravitz
Poison
Garth Brooks
Nirvana
STP
Anthrax
Alice In Chains
Skid Row
Pantera
Rob Zombie
Marilyn Manson
Smashing Pumpkins

Just to name a few!


AND LETS NOT FORGET THE GREATEST STAGE SHOW IN THE ENTIRE WORLD!!!

By your logic, if Jimmy Page said he was influenced by Britney Spears, that makes Britney Spears a better musician than Page. And just because you like a band doesn't mean you have to like their influences.


The funny thing is, Stevie Ray Vaughn is a blues artist, and of course the basic blues progression uses 3 chords...:P

Just putting it out there, SRV is anything but basic blues progressions.

[DJMAKO]

I'm not disappointed. Not one bit.

[KeFkA666]

i could do without kiss forever

[o1skinneej]

I am also not disapointed.

[Joatmon]

Yes, disapointed

[Kelvis]

Just putting it out there, SRV is anything but basic blues progressions.


Yep, and I'm putting it out there that KISS is anything but 3 or 4 chords to their songs...

Search on youtube for SRV and the first track I find is Texas Flood. Which is a twelve bar blues track.

Same for KISS, first track is Detroit Rock City which has more than a 'three chord' arrangement as I'm sure most RB players will know.

Not meaning to disrespect SRV in any way, and I'm aware he had plenty of material that was beyond standard blues - the guy was an amazing talent sadly taken before his time but ffs, the same old 'three powerchord' crap gets peddled by uninformed KISS haters every time...

Try this one for 'more than three chords':

http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_EIufhjHsE

There's plenty more.

[Young_Nastyman]

Yep, and I'm putting it out there that KISS is anything but 3 or 4 chords to their songs...

Search on youtube for SRV and the first track I find is Texas Flood. Which is a twelve bar blues track.

Same for KISS, first track is Detroit Rock City which has more than a 'three chord' arrangement as I'm sure most RB players will know.

Not meaning to disrespect SRV in any way, and I'm aware he had plenty of material that was beyond standard blues - the guy was an amazing talent sadly taken before his time but ffs, the same old 'three powerchord' crap gets peddled by uninformed KISS haters every time...

Try this one for 'more than three chords':

http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_EIufhjHsE

There's plenty more.

i'm not the one who said that about KISS, I was just defending SRV, don't take it out on me :(

[xX_Sandman_Xx]

I want "I Was Made For Lovin' You".

[Kelvis]

i'm not the one who said that about KISS, I was just defending SRV, don't take it out on me :(

Ah, soz buddy! I didn't mean to sound harsh and I and know you weren't the one who mentioned the 'three chords' :)

But, follow any two random KISS threads and you'll see what I mean!

[Ace96]

By your logic, if Jimmy Page said he was influenced by Britney Spears, that makes Britney Spears a better musician than Page. And just because you like a band doesn't mean you have to like their influences.



Just putting it out there, SRV is anything but basic blues progressions.


No, that is not what I mean. I think its rather interesting to trace back roots of bands. Spears does not belong in the same sentence as Jimmy Page.

[Young_Nastyman]

No, f#ckstick that is not what I mean. I think its rather interesting to trace back roots of bands. Spears does not belong in the same sentence as Jimmy Page.

...soooo when you said:


For all the haters out there......F U!

I bet some of the haters favorite bands are influenced by KISS!

you meant:

"I think its rather interesting to trace back roots of your favorite bands, seeing as KISS influenced a bunch of them"

Really? It sounds more like "my favorite band is better because they influenced your favorite band."

I'm not a KISS hater, I already stated my opinion of them much earlier in the thread. I was just trying to point out a flaw in what you wrote.

So you can say whatever you want about the bands that I like cause I won't affect me either way, cause I'm not so insecure that I need to swear or call other people names to justify that I like them.

You may think you're defending KISS from haters, but in reality you're just making KISS fans look bad. Whatever, no matter what I say you'll probably just turn into an immature kid and call me another name. It's sad that a 20 year old is more mature than somone almost 10 years his major (if your profile is to be believed).

Don't worry KISS fans, I know you're not all as bad as this guy

[Kelvis]

You may think you're defending KISS from haters, but in reality you're just making KISS fans look bad. Whatever, no matter what I say you'll probably just turn into an immature kid and call me another name. It's sad that a 20 year old is more mature than somone almost 10 years his major (if your profile is to be believed).

Don't worry KISS fans, I know you're not all as bad as this guy

Agreed. Ace96 - your insult was a bit uncalled for buddy. We can all enjoy discussion and differing opinions without resorting to name calling.

To actually continue the discussion tho' (as I also like to check out my fave bands' influences to see how they influenced the following generation), perhaps Jimmy Page being influenced by Britney wasn't the best example Young Nastyman? I know you were just playin'! :P

[The Hungry Samurai]

I know they have a fan base but I personally feel these guys are highly overratted. If I ever saw Rock and Roll all night I might get it just for the party factor, but otherwas its no biggie for me.

[Kelvis]

I know they have a fan base but I personally feel these guys are highly overratted. If I ever saw Rock and Roll all night I might get it just for the party factor, but otherwas its no biggie for me.

Hey Hungry Samurai, it's a *huge* fanbase mate :) I really don't think KISS are overrated at all - loved by fans, hated by critics.

I think if there was one song that KISS fans *wouldn't* want, it's 'RARAN'...There's another thread 'The KISS ARMY and DLC request thread'

http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69370&highlight=KISS+ARMY+DLC

and I don't think there's a single request from the hardcore KISS fans for 'RARAN'! I could list you off at least a dozen songs that most KISS fans would rather hear - unfortunately, I think so many people's opinions of KISS are formed from that one song...

[Fatal_T]

... and I don't think there's a single request from the hardcore KISS fans for 'RARAN'! I could list you off at least a dozen songs that most KISS fans would rather hear - unfortunately, I think so many people's opinions of KISS are formed from that one song...

Ahem. Sergeant Major, you're looking to get put on KP!

This guy here will kill for "Rock and Roll All Nite". The version off Alive! Failing that, I'll hope KISS can come up with some sort of masters for a recorded live version - as in this version, recorded at the Brooklyn Bridge for the MTV VMAs in '96:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pnwz6zHfkcI

While I'll be happy to get any KISS - "Rock and Roll All Nite" is currently the holy grail for me, and all I have now is the rather poor "copy" of the Alive! version on Guitar Hero III. "Rock and Roll All Nite" is the song that opened the door to KISS for me, and I hope others can use it as an entry point to hearing some really good, fun music. All are invited, and the KISS Army is always accepting new recruits.

Point of contact for this post is the undersigned, via PM.


Fatal_T
COL, RB
Commanding

[packerfan8675309]

DRC was a fun song but i really dont mind not seeing them in the next game

[Ace96]

My apologies but I never once said this band is better cause they influenced this band. My point is that KISS has influenced SEVERAL MAJOR BANDS and find it IRONIC that people want to diss them even though their favorite maybe DIRECTLY influenced by KISS. Quite frankly I get a little irratated when someone puts words in my mouth. Go back and read what I said.

Nastyman, you ASSUMED thats what I meant and everyone knows what happens when you assume.

No matter what any of you say (KISS fan or not) they are still the GREATEST STAGE SHOW ON EARTH!

[Ace96]

Speaking of download content how awesome would it be to have this song there
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=W7bmdoXTAh8
www.myspace.com/shaolintempleofboom


Now thats what irritates me. People trying to hi jack threads or trolling. Guys come in here talking smack about a band then don't like it when the smack comes back!

[Kelvis]

Ahem. Sergeant Major, you're looking to get put on KP!

Heh, ok don't shoot just yet Chief! :) In my defence, I'm talking about: Watchin' You - Parasite - She - Love Her All I Can - Rip It Out - and all those other great KISS tracks that most people don't get to hear because the rock'n'roll national anthem is played so much!


This guy here will kill for "Rock and Roll All Nite". The version off Alive! Failing that, I'll hope KISS can come up with some sort of masters for a recorded live version - as in this version, recorded at the Brooklyn Bridge for the MTV VMAs in '96:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pnwz6zHfkcI


Well, that is a crackin' version and the NY skyline & the fireworks really set it off - would have been amazing to be there.


While I'll be happy to get any KISS - "Rock and Roll All Nite" is currently the holy grail for me, and all I have now is the rather poor "copy" of the Alive! version on Guitar Hero III. "Rock and Roll All Nite" is the song that opened the door to KISS for me, and I hope others can use it as an entry point to hearing some really good, fun music. All are invited, and the KISS Army is always accepting new recruits.

Point of contact for this post is the undersigned, via PM.


Fatal_T
COL, RB
Commanding

Aha! See, I didn't know that :) I didn't get the Dressed to Kill album until after I had the debut - the song that got me was Deuce :) Anyway - I really, really didn't like the GHIII version and I didn't like to think of people hearing that one and thinking it was a good representation of KISS.

[Ace96]

Kelvis, you are correct. There are several songs that get over looked just to here Rock & Roll All Nite for the millionth time. Strange Ways, Rock Bottom, She.....to name a few.

[Fatal_T]

Kelvis, you are correct. There are several songs that get over looked just to here Rock & Roll All Nite for the millionth time. Strange Ways, Rock Bottom, She.....to name a few.

Agreed, however "Rock and Roll All Nite" is the iconic song that most folks are familiar with, therefore it gets the most play. For a party song, it's hard to beat - I'm hoping HMX has it in the pipe. It's my favorite, and #1 on my DLC wishlist. Do I have a hope of being objective when it comes to this song - no way in hell :p

The best way for folks to get some idea of what we're on about in the KISS threads is to get that old classic stuff ("Hotter Than Hell", "She", "100,000 Years", "Black Diamond", etc, etc) out as DLC - and THEN you'll see "Rock and Roll All Nite" fade into the background some. The problem is that KISS has very much become a "niche" band, with a shrinking fanbase. The only thing that might help to reverse that trend is to get some kickass KISS Klassics as DLC. That way, there's exposure - whether it be people downloading and playing or just watching the charts on YouTube. And (biased, obviously) I feel that the music will suck some folks in. "Calling Doctor Love" was a good attempt, but it needed and it NEEDS to be followed by some truly EPIC stuff from the Pre-Alive! era.

HMX? Are you listening?

[Ramirez16]

I'm in love with RARAN like most Kiss fans. I rather have Black Diamond or God of Thunder and about ten others, maybe more than RARAN...

[Mickey Buns]

Who said there is an omission of Kiss in RB2, we have a lot more dlc to go and remember that RB was on the Gene Simmons show, most likely we will see more KISS, okay there's my 2 cents. :p