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e1duke
07-16-2008, 12:37 PM
Well not Hots but Hot for Teacher :/

http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/142/14222045/vids_1.html

Dang I like that song, I guess Ill at least rent it.

Ultrace
07-16-2008, 12:38 PM
They blew it. Hot for Teacher is nice, but Panama would have been the best choice, IMO. This still gives plenty of opportunity for RB to scoop that song down the road...

krammkracker
07-16-2008, 12:40 PM
Van Halen signed an exclusive to GH

YCFan282
07-16-2008, 12:41 PM
Van Halen signed an exclusive to GH

good we won't have to see them in rock band then

Gatorguy91
07-16-2008, 12:43 PM
Van Halen signed an exclusive to GH

I doubt it...

Krakenheds
07-16-2008, 12:45 PM
It was in their press conf. VH and Eagles are exclusive.

RBF11
07-16-2008, 12:45 PM
I doubt it...

What do you mean you doubt it? It was announced during the MS conference...

Edit: Ninja'd! Damn

e1duke
07-16-2008, 12:46 PM
They blew it? They have Van Halen, they can do what they want.

By the way check out the video WOW, just check out the guitar player and the new GHWT Guitar, he does some sick tricks with it I might be paying attention to GHWT for some innovative ideas.

-Drums you can play whatever you want whenever
-Guitar you can literally slide your fingers over the neck to strum and do special fx looks pretty awesome.

I hate GH3 and I dont like the look that activision has gone with the series, but man after watching that, you cant say it doesn't look pretty cool.

PS RB still pwns :D

Fausttt
07-16-2008, 12:48 PM
those charts are sick though.

nicko68
07-16-2008, 12:50 PM
those charts are sick though.

I feel so old...

Is "sick" good or bad? :D

e1duke
07-16-2008, 12:56 PM
Sick is so SICK

aka dope
aka coolio
aka cool

aka check out the vid

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14222045/guitar-hero-4/videos/ghwthotforteacher_071508.html

Indy7solo
07-16-2008, 12:58 PM
looks like world tour is another over charted, hyperspeed mess on the hard levels. And was it just me, or did they have some sort of no fail mode on. Outside the guitarist, who still missed quite a few notes, everyone was readily missing notes and probably should have failed. A bit fishy. By the way, has anyone been aloud hands on with this game yet?
I will say that guitar tricks were kind of cool, but, who is really going to use them? Did they get rid of the whammy bar?

Vedicardi
07-16-2008, 12:58 PM
Too bad it's overcharted. You should have seen the people in the live stream of this video just yelling "HOLY OVERCHART BATMAN" at the end of the song.

And the drum intro is incorrectly charted.

tidu
07-16-2008, 01:01 PM
wow, bass pedal OVERLOAD. unless it's just that song... Ridiculous, overcharted guitar solos might be fun for some people in GH, but overcharting with the pedal is NOT fun at all, unless you're a professional drummer

skullpit
07-16-2008, 01:03 PM
wow, bass pedal OVERLOAD. unless it's just that song... Ridiculous, overcharted guitar solos might be fun for some people in GH, but overcharting with the pedal is NOT fun at all, unless you're a professional drummer

ummm if anything, the bass pedal is under charted.

tidu
07-16-2008, 01:05 PM
ummm if anything, the bass pedal is under charted.

I just listened to the song... yeah you're right :p

e1duke
07-16-2008, 01:05 PM
ummm wait I thought this game was called Guitar Hero.

OF COURSE ITS OVERCHARTED, ITS CALLED GUITAR HERO.

The bass has an extra note, its a strum with no button held down.

The drums have and extra pad.

Guitar is guitar, a lot of overcharting.

But hey thats what they are going for, a challenge just like they did with GH3.

Like said before I stopped playing GH after activision took over, I after playing rb Its really hard to go back, but im not gonna be a fanboy, I think Im going to actually try GHWT out, who knows what other songs they got down the pipeline? They already got me with Hot for Teacher.

e1duke
07-16-2008, 01:07 PM
hahaha ya the drummer is prlly on hard, I was expecting more bass pedal from that song.

Punkrockdrummer
07-16-2008, 01:07 PM
Damn. That songs intro looks TOUGH on drums.

gamrrpol
07-16-2008, 01:08 PM
I honestly believe if you showed I Love Rock n Roll from the first GH game people on this board would scream "overcharted". Not every GH song is overcharted. It's also creeping into RB now...when people can't FC a song on their first sight-read, well hey, it must be overcharted. I used to think, not being a musician, I wasn't hearing everything that was there but now I'm convinced it's a bunch of people who can't admit their limitations.

Ultimatum
07-16-2008, 01:10 PM
That drum chart is terrible, it is almost completely wrong.

The guitar and bass, ugh, don't even get me started.

N-A
07-16-2008, 01:10 PM
Yeah - great song. But it'll make my eyes bleed and hand cramp. Tone it down, Activision!

Ziiggy Stardust
07-16-2008, 01:12 PM
Wow, the intro was ruined on drums.

packerfan8675309
07-16-2008, 01:13 PM
nooooooo!!!!!

Thallis
07-16-2008, 01:13 PM
I honestly believe if you showed I Love Rock n Roll from the first GH game people on this board would scream "overcharted". Not every GH song is overcharted. It's also creeping into RB now...when people can't FC a song on their first sight-read, well hey, it must be overcharted. I used to think, not being a musician, I wasn't hearing everything that was there but now I'm convinced it's a bunch of people who can't admit their limitations.

I think most of the qualms are with the outro. They chart them all as three note chords, when really, it's only one note.

army_of_me
07-16-2008, 01:16 PM
It didn't look like their band meter went down at all. I guess they had it on some sort of no-fail mode...

packerfan8675309
07-16-2008, 01:16 PM
That drum chart is terrible, it is almost completely wrong.

The guitar and bass, ugh, don't even get me started.

Isnt the beginning bass drum

Ultimatum
07-16-2008, 01:17 PM
He does some sort of rudiment between the bass and toms.

But even the main part is wrong, the kick comes slightly before the snare drum.

TheGodFather73
07-16-2008, 01:21 PM
I'll be honest, the game looks better to me than I thought it would. Simply having a black (or near enough) background for the notes helps out immensely since I'm slightly color blind. I had trouble playing on easy in GH III because of the stupid art fretwork in the game.

As far as overcharting, I dunno. Can you really overchart Eddie Van Halen?

As long as the new RB drumset works for GH:WT, I'll at least rent it to try it out.

xxpigxx
07-16-2008, 01:21 PM
How can I say this . . .

meh

bgold08
07-16-2008, 01:21 PM
after seeing the HUD, and gameplay of GH:WT i dont care what songs they have or how many they offer for free i will not be renting this crap. Rock Band has the best GUI ever, its clean simple and it has everything u need to know. screw gh and screw activision for failing to make a good ui.

nicko68
07-16-2008, 01:26 PM
Sick is so SICK

aka dope
aka coolio
aka cool

Ha, thanks! :)

e1duke
07-16-2008, 01:26 PM
Also I just wanted to point out the music studio thing could be a hit or miss, but if its a hit the music would be endless.

army_of_me
07-16-2008, 01:28 PM
Also I just wanted to point out the music studio thing could be a hit or miss, but if its a hit the music would be endless.

I'm thinking, though, without vocals how great could it really be?

back_blows
07-16-2008, 01:29 PM
Also I just wanted to point out the music studio thing could be a hit or miss, but if its a hit the music would be endless.

If its a hit, websites like http://www.911tabs.com are going to become extremely popular.

Pengwyns
07-16-2008, 01:31 PM
I thought the guitar and bass charts looked spot on aside from the strange three chord changes in the end fast strumming. I don't really think there was any overcharting aside from there. I also didn't notice any random strums in the middle of the solos, which was my main complaint with GH3.

Note that I also feel Afterlife and Snow are not overcharted as some on these forums seem to believe.

Sveppi
07-16-2008, 01:32 PM
The GHWT interface is just terrible...

Michura
07-16-2008, 01:41 PM
It's funny how if a song looks difficult and it is GH, it is automatically overcharted. But if HMX does it, it is "challenging".

an1m051ty
07-16-2008, 01:43 PM
Love Van Halen and that song.. but like some people have said... its just charted weird.

It still looks fun to play and difficult, but not realistic. The thing I notice often about the GH charts is the inclusion of extra HO/POs when there clearly is none. Its added to make the game harder. That song is hard enough, jeez.

Runa216
07-16-2008, 01:52 PM
I love the dichotomy of these forums:

"OMG, GH is so overcharted!"

which is responded with,

"Why does everyone complain? they only say it's overcharting becuase it's activision!"

Well, I love chicken egg syndrome....personally I think the songs ARE overcharted, but sometimes people are just looking for something to complain about. I especially think that Hot for Teacher is overcharted, but I don't think Overcharting is inherently a bad thing. I thought the overcharting done in Smokin made the song more fun to play, and I WISH Baba O'reilly was overcharted. I didn't like March of the pigs, so it's Piano parts irked me either way.

What I'm trying to say is that overcharting isn't necessarily a bad thing, but in many cases it is. GH overcharts a lot, and most of the time it's not fun becuase of it. sometimes it is.

Hot for teacher was disgusting though...that is all.

xxpigxx
07-16-2008, 02:02 PM
Afterlife is spot on, from the sound of it. Snow . . . still up in the air on that one.

I did not like the charting of Hot for Teacher. It seemed off somehow. Santeria was good, though.

nicko68
07-16-2008, 02:03 PM
Also I just wanted to point out the music studio thing could be a hit or miss, but if its a hit the music would be endless.

I honestly think people will take the time to make great songs. Look at the kinds of things people spend time with with Youtube videos, GH customs, etc. And with ranking, there will be people who want to be highly ranked.

My concern, though, is copyright infringement. You just know people are going to make versions of commercial songs. As a player, that's what I'd want to play.

simmias
07-16-2008, 03:10 PM
I thought the guitar charting was spot-on when I watched the live stream, but apparently I missed the three-chord shifts during the outro strumfest that everyone has been complaining about. Aside from that, I thought it looked pretty damn fun. The drum charting looked awful from the start, but I stopped paying attention so I could focus on the guitar chart.


They blew it. Hot for Teacher is nice, but Panama would have been the best choice, IMO.
Good God, I agree with you about something! What's next: dogs and cats, living together?

JukeBoxHero
07-16-2008, 04:01 PM
Opinion Take 1

Song Choice:I respectfully disagree with Ultrace on the sing choice, I think it's excellent.

Bass:My primary instrument when it comes to playing in Rock Band and real life. The bass chart didn't seem bad at all but I'm going to need check the song again properly because some the notes are weird.(The hammer on/pull off back and forth between the all the buttons toward the end).

Guitar:It's not really a bad chart, I could imagine something similar in Rock Band with that song.

Drums: Doesn't look quite right to me, but eh I'm no drummer.

Vocals:Looks perfectly fine from view I had of the vocal chart.

Overall it's not bad but I'm set on Rock Band 2 in this case. This game has the potential to be really fun.

xxpigxx
07-16-2008, 04:02 PM
The Bass guitar had a purple line across the chart indicating an open note strum

Spandrel
07-16-2008, 04:09 PM
I haven't read all of the comments in this thread, but the drums do not look overcharted. I think the drums looked pretty accurate in that song and that is to say "sick". I can't wait to see someguy and IBitePrettyHard sink their sticks into that one. :)

Ultimatum
07-16-2008, 06:29 PM
The drums are just charted wrong, and are somewhat undercharted.

Colt_Steele
07-16-2008, 06:44 PM
What's next: dogs and cats, living together?
Mass hysteria!

ELDUDEARINO69
07-16-2008, 07:52 PM
Jesus. I guess you have to be uber amazing to play Guitar Hero now because that didn't look fun at all.