Should I get PS3 or Xbox?

[moppie2005]

I am considering getting a PS3 or an xbox just for the sole sake of Rock Band (*nuttiness here*). Is that a stupid idea? I mean, $600 just to play one game?

Actually I have PS2 (which I solely got for Guitar Hero II, LOL). I can just get the PS2 version of Rock Band, but I'm thinking it would be really fun to get to play online w/ others.

My question is, how is the wireless of these 2 systems? Is complicated setup required? Do I need extra cables? I already have a router at home & was able to set up my Wii wi-fi connection easily without any new wires. Does these 2 systems work the same way?

Also, what additional accessories do I need for each system (memory card, cables, etc...)?

Thanks!

[IbanezBassist_v2]

The PS3 has internal memory via the HDD. All cables except the HD cable come with the unit. Set up is fairly easy as with any console.

[Knuckles7]

Well for ps3 you dont really need anything since you said you have a wireless router so with a ps3 you dont really need anything extra, but if you have an HDTV you could get a HDMI cable to make the quality better ( I use the one from my Direct TV receiver) but thats what I love about my ps3. The ps3 can scan for a wifi connection and if its secured all you have to do is enter the wep key and you need to register for Playstation account but its easy as that!

[Apples]

The most obvious answer to "Should I get PS3 or Xbox 360?" is "Yes!"

And I got a console just for a Harmonix game (GH2) back in the day, so you're not crazy.

[Thrashdragon]

My question is, how is the wireless of these 2 systems? Is complicated setup required? Do I need extra cables? I already have a router at home & was able to set up my Wii wi-fi connection easily without any new wires. Does these 2 systems work the same way?

Also, what additional accessories do I need for each system (memory card, cables, etc...)?

Thanks!

Since the PS3 guys have already chimed in, here's the answers to your 360 questions:

The 360 requires a $100 wireless ethernet adapter (you can find it as low as $85 if you shop around). The 360 is easy to set up, no extra cables.

The system has a built in hard drive (unless you buy a Core or Arcade 360...don't do that, you need the hard drive to truly enjoy the system), so you don't need memory cards unless you want to move saved games around (like to a friend's console).

For the 360, you should not need any cables other than what's in the box, unless you're trying to do something specific with your setup. It comes with a component/composite cable that works for both SD and HDTV. They also sell a VGA cable for it that will allow the 360 to upscale DVDs to 1080i.

In the end, a fully decked out 360 isn't any cheaper than a PS3 (and if you add HD-DVD to counter Blu-Ray it actually costs more), so your deciding factors should be A) What your friends are playing on, and B) Which system has the games you want.

And I also bought a PS2 solely for GH2, then GH1, then GH80s. Maybe we're the reason the console hasn't died yet? :cool:

[Clutch414]

Since the PS3 guys have already chimed in, here's the answers to your 360 questions:

The 360 requires a $100 wireless ethernet adapter (you can find it as low as $85 if you shop around). The 360 is easy to set up, no extra cables.

The system has a built in hard drive (unless you buy a Core or Arcade 360...don't do that, you need the hard drive to truly enjoy the system), so you don't need memory cards unless you want to move saved games around (like to a friend's console).

For the 360, you should not need any cables other than what's in the box, unless you're trying to do something specific with your setup. It comes with a component/composite cable that works for both SD and HDTV. They also sell a VGA cable for it that will allow the 360 to upscale DVDs to 1080i.

In the end, a fully decked out 360 isn't any cheaper than a PS3 (and if you add HD-DVD to counter Blu-Ray it actually costs more), so your deciding factors should be A) What your friends are playing on, and B) Which system has the games you want.

And I also bought a PS2 solely for GH2, then GH1, then GH80s. Maybe we're the reason the console hasn't died yet? :cool:

You forgot that Premium 360's now come with HDMI cables.

[HMXJohnlok]

I'm with Apples. Get both. If you can only afford one, do your research and find out what games are coming out for each in the next year or two that you might be interested in. Then decide based on what you want to play!

[moppie2005]

Actually I only have a standard classic TV, so I don't need any HD cables. So, for the xbox, you need to buy an wireless ethernet adapter just to get wireless working? It's so expensive too, which kind of sucks. Other than Rock Band and future Grand Theft Auto, I don't think I will be playing any other games at all.

[bmore007]

If you already have a ps2, get the new 40GB ps3 coming out. Its price has been cut back to $400.

[jonnym]

I don't know which to get either, I have an Xbox 360 and am getting a PS3 in the next couple of weeks, but while I like the fact that the PS3 version is region free (I'm in Europe) I would prefer the 360 version as all of my friends have 360s... it's a tough call but if I knew the 360 would work outside of America then I'd definitely get that.

[BacchusDisciples]

I actually feel that the 80gb PS3 is worth the extra $100 over the 40gb PS3, especially if you already own a PS2. The new 40gb PS3 won't offer any backwards compatibility and has only 2 USB ports (but it comes with Blu-Ray Spiderman 3). For the extra $100 for the 80gb version, you gain some backwards compatibility (read somewhere that about 75% of PS2 games will work on it), two extra USB ports (4 total), and the game Motorstorm (while losing Spidey3). Fork out an extra $15 for a PS2 controller adapter and you can still play GH2 while waiting for November 20th to arrive.

[Xzyliac]

Sounds like you want a PS3 (this coming from a guy who owns two 360s). After buying an adapter and paying for a year of XBL, not to mention points to download any Rock Band/GTA content, you're already near if not over the PS3 price.

I have the original adapter for the first Xbox which, if you can find one, goes for $30-$40.

Yeah make your own choice, do your homework, but it sounds like you want a PS3 as it has Wi-Fi and internet gaming right out of the box.

Now if your friends own 360s...

[jonnym]

I actually feel that the 80gb PS3 is worth the extra $100 over the 40gb PS3, especially if you already own a PS2. The new 40gb PS3 won't offer any backwards compatibility and has only 2 USB ports (but it comes with Blu-Ray Spiderman 3). For the extra $100 for the 80gb version, you gain some backwards compatibility (read somewhere that about 75% of PS2 games will work on it), two extra USB ports (4 total), and the game Motorstorm (while losing Spidey3). Fork out an extra $15 for a PS2 controller adapter and you can still play GH2 while waiting for November 20th to arrive.

that's all well and good but if you get a 40GB in Japan you can get one in White (will look great with my Wii and 360) :)

[Eagoyle]

Fork out an extra $15 for a PS2 controller adapter and you can still play GH2 while waiting for November 20th to arrive.

Not entirely true. The PS2-USB adapters don't seem to work for GH2 (At least not this one (http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product_id=802566)). You can play the songs, but you can't do hammer-ons or pull-offs, and Star Power has to be activated by pressing the "select" button. GH1 works just fine.

Eagoyle

[Cvette54]

Well as an avid gamer that plays on both systems, I would have to NOT recommend the PS3. IMO that system is no where near as good a gaming system as the 360 is. I rarely play the PS3 because there is nothing to play on it. Yea built in wireless is nice on it but I just have a cable running to my router from my 360 that I used to use with my old XBOX. I think the graphics are better on the 360 as well. GHIII looks better on my 360 than it does on the PS3, both using an HD signal. I was playing GHIII on the PS3 yesterday at Best Buy and the system seemed to freeze up for several seconds going between different menus. It would also freeze up when changing characters as well. I have never had this issue with my 360 and GHII or GHIII. These are just my opinions, get which ever system you want.

[OneEyeRed]

My "simulated George Foreman Grill" is now in the closet. My PS3 rocks and this is coming from a hardcore PC gamer. With the onlsaught of CrapVista and the DX10 fiasco, I have had enough of Micronuts. I gutted my recent rig which was around 6 grand with the last updates and stripped it back to bare bones (which is still a duo core) and sold all my parts off and bought a PS3. I could not be any happier. The PS3 graphics are the best console graphics I have personally ever seen and makes a beefed up PC look like a waste of money when the comparisons are not that huge of a diffeence.

I never thought I would go back to console gaming; my wife and friends are even shocked. The biggest complaint from PS3 owners is the game library. I, however, am perfectly content right now with the assortment I have. It is a well built machine and I have had no issues with it. Once developers really learn how to use the core processing there will be some killer changes and game apps.

Biggest thing either way is get what you feel most comfortable with. These are just my opinions for what they ain't worth :)

P.S. If you go with a PS3, find a 60GB model. Don't waste the cash on a 80GB. The 60GB is backwards compatible and you can always upgrade your HD down the road if you need more room and you can get a 120+ GB HD for the extra price you would pay for the 80GB.

[espher]

The 360 requires a $100 wireless ethernet adapter (you can find it as low as $85 if you shop around).

Just to jump in here, you can also pick up a fairly cheap wireless bridge. They don't lock in as smoothly or mesh as stylishly, but they're a fair bit cheaper. Hell, if you're a little tech saavy and have some time you can convert a cheap router into a bridge. :p

The 360 first-party bridge is a little more straightforward on the setup, but there are alternatives (I'm don't have a wireless router, so I'm rigging my Nintendo Wi-Fi adaptor to function as a soft access point and using a third-party bridge on the console).

[rockst01]

Actually I only have a standard classic TV, so I don't need any HD cables. So, for the xbox, you need to buy an wireless ethernet adapter just to get wireless working? It's so expensive too, which kind of sucks. Other than Rock Band and future Grand Theft Auto, I don't think I will be playing any other games at all.


No don't get the wireless adapter. You can just buy a wireless bridge which will cost like 20 dollars and work just as well.

[The_Jester]

not much of a fan for sony after they sold their GTA's to microsoft, and yet microsoft gives out nothing to sony... so personally i say 360... but thats just me, only bad thing about microsoft, you have to pay for online play..

[Xzyliac]

not much of a fan for sony after they sold their GTA's to microsoft, and yet microsoft gives out nothing to sony... so personally i say 360... but thats just me, only bad thing about microsoft, you have to pay for online play..

Sony has nothing to do with GTA. Never have. Every GTA has been multiplatform.

[Ardius]

not much of a fan for sony after they sold their GTA's to microsoft, and yet microsoft gives out nothing to sony... so personally i say 360... but thats just me, only bad thing about microsoft, you have to pay for online play..

Erm, a more accurate claim would be that "sony competely messed up their deal with Rockstar over Grand Theft Auto and thus now the PS3 doesnt get GTA first - the PS3 still gets GTA though"
Id like to point out the Grand Theft Auto games are made in Scotland :p - nowhere near Sony or Microsoft....or anyone.

[Ashes2Ashes]

All my friends have just a 360 with the exception of a couple that have both consoles. More then likely I would go a 360. You probably have more friends with one to play with.

Xbox 360 would cost you $349.00 wireless adapter starts at $80.00 so not too big of an initial investment.

[holyground]

The 360 requires a $100 wireless ethernet adapter (you can find it as low as $85 if you shop around). The 360 is easy to set up, no extra cables.

This is not entirely correct. You could get a Belkin Wireless range extender for $40. It has a plug in the back so it acts as a wired connection and has the benifit of increasing the signal strength.

[Koneesha]

Sounds like you want a PS3 (this coming from a guy who owns two 360s). After buying an adapter and paying for a year of XBL, not to mention points to download any Rock Band/GTA content, you're already near if not over the PS3 price.

I have the original adapter for the first Xbox which, if you can find one, goes for $30-$40.

Yeah make your own choice, do your homework, but it sounds like you want a PS3 as it has Wi-Fi and internet gaming right out of the box.

Now if your friends own 360s...

just so you no to play on xbox 360 online its 50 dollars a year

[icantwaitforrockband]

I'm gettin' a PS3 'cause I feel it'll better suit my needs. Unfortunately, all my friends have xbox. Sucks for me for online...but luckily we have sites like these to meet people for online play. Guess I'll only get to school me friends when I'm at their place!

[Catalytic]

I have a PS3 (bought it in January), but I have to admit I have a bit of buyer's remorse. The 1st party titles have not been very good, whereas the exclusives for the XBox 360 have been great. And for the price difference I could have bought a few more games. The Blu-Ray player is nice, but how many Blu-Ray movies am I going to buy or rent? Not that many. Not to mention the difficulty that certain 3rd party developers have had so far developing games for the PS3 (EA, for instance). This difficulty will be overcome with time, but for now I can't help but regret my experience with the PS3 for now. Hopefully this will change with time.

[bounchfx]

not to be a dick but I'm still trying to figure out why anyone would buy a ps3, that is, unless they love movies and want blu-ray.


besides that.. um..

[Mournblade77]

not to be a dick but I'm still trying to figure out why anyone would buy a ps3, that is, unless they love movies and want blu-ray.


besides that.. um..
For Final Fantasy! What else?

[Nfsjunkie91]

I've got a 360, and it works fine. I know the bundle doesn't come with a wireless controller, but I guess it all comes down to preference for a certain brand when you have a question like this. Oh, and if you get a 360, the GH3 Les Paul wireless works great with it.

[sa_nick]

For Final Fantasy! What else?

Yeah, exactly. Pretty much everyone who owns a PS3 got it for its potential and the games that are yet to be released.

Ratchet and Clank, Eye of Judgement, Uncharted, Haze, UT3, LittleBigPlanet, MGS4, FFXIII, Gran Turismo, Killzone 2, Heavy Rain and probably a bunch more im forgetting. Oh and Home, which is gonna be free, and awesome!

And yeah also for watching Blu Ray's, which is sooo much better if u have proper HD tv's.

[maddrummerdan86]

the question is as simple as this...
if u want a system to enjoy now, get xbox 360, online is phenominal right now and its at its peak! with halo, gears, pgr4, nhl, and rb u cant go wrong!
if u want a system to enjoy in a year or so, get ps3, has good potential, but right now sucks compared to 360!

[hankmallon]

Xbox 360 easily. Its always the first one to get DLC if not the majority of it exclusive and patches regularly.

I have all 3 systems and I can tell you as of now PS3 is a failed console and only good as a Blu-ray player until some killer exclusives come out. Also, Xbox 360 upconverts its own games to 1080p if its not native.

[Xzyliac]

Xbox 360 easily. Its always the first one to get DLC if not the majority of it exclusive and patches regularly.

I have all 3 systems and I can tell you as of now PS3 is a failed console and only good as a Blu-ray player until some killer exclusives come out. Also, Xbox 360 upconverts its own games to 1080p if its not native.

Blu-ray is dead. Had Sony marketed it for software above media they would've had a shot but as it stands if you're gonna get a PS3 get it for games.

[stiper327b]

Yup, Blu-Ray is now dead. Wal-Mart will be selling a Toshiba HD-DVD player for under $100 tomorrow morning. I know it's a sale, but once they get closer to that range permanently, it's all over. DVD didn't get big enough to overtake VHS until players started selling in the $100 range, and those were cheap Chinese knock-offs. This is a sturdy player from a reputable manufacturer. Once Disney realizes the truth and jumps ship for HD-DVD, the game will truly be over.

[toefer]

Not to criticize, but I don't think people saying Blu-Ray is dead are industry analysts.

Its hard to say if its dead just because a store is offering a ~$100 HD-DVD player. I don't think many people care about either new HD format enough to really kill the other.

Everyone knows HD-DVDs and Blu-Rays cost quite a bit, and I think most people will stick with DVDs for the time being. I doubt I'm the only one who won't pay $30 for a movie when I can get it on DVD for <$10, and upscale it to the point where I'd hardly know the difference. Sound-wise, most people probably don't even have a 5.1 surround system, let alone a need for a 7.1 capability.

Plus if Blu-Ray "dies" what does that even mean? All it means is that Blu-Ray as a movie format is no longer an option, so people with PS3's can no longer list that as one of the great features of the system. Forget that there are lots of Blu-Rays currently in existence, so you can still go buy those. Forget that quite a few significant studios are Blu-Ray exclusive for a reason, and won't want to see it die. No reason to think like that. I just don't see Sony throwing in the towel on the HD format race.

In any case PS3 games will still be Blu-Ray, and that is still significant. If HD-DVD wins, sure the 360 will have the winning format (as an add-on), but it can't read games from it. Whether that extra space is needed is another question.



not to be a dick but I'm still trying to figure out why anyone would buy a ps3, that is, unless they love movies and want blu-ray.


besides that.. um..

Stuff like this is asking to get the thread locked. There's really no point to saying it. Ask the same question about a 360 back in October 2006. After it's 2nd year, PS3 will have a few great exclusives, just like the 360 finally has now. Leave it up to people to decide whats best for them.

Hopefully this just gets locked up.

[Xzyliac]

I think, as a software format, Blu-Ray has great potential.

As a media platform it sucks.

[AfroMan]

If you would like to play online get a 360 it basicly made for online.
But if you want it for look get it for ps3 but they both look the same to me when is comes to looks.

[Xzyliac]

If you would like to play online get a 360 it basicly made for online.
But if you want it for look get it for ps3 but they both look the same to me when is comes to looks.

In power they're nearly identical.

With the exception of the PS3's superior processor and the 360's superior graphics card.

Both systems are great in their own ways. To claim one is overall better is ill spoken.

[darkhorse09]

i personally think that the 360 is the superior system compared to the PS3. i was weary when i wanted to make the jump but i sided with the 360. boy was i happy i made this decision. not only is the online play way better on the 360, i love HD-DVD. can you say Transformers? i also love the wide selection of games that the 360 has. i had a feeling the PS3 would fail, and it has.

[Eagoyle]

I think it is a little early to say that the PS3 has failed. It's major issues are a lack of games (which should be fixed by Christmas, except MGS4 has been pushed back) and sub-par online play. One of the major issues with online play is just the lack of machines and good games to play on. Hopefully "Home" will help close the gap with XBox, but XBox Live is a very well thought out system.

I will take my not-having-to-ship-it-back-to-fix-it PS3. I had to deal with that enough with my old PS2. I believe that Sony learned their lesson on that one.

In the end, pick the console that either a)has the exclusive games you want, or b) your friends already have so you can play with them. If neither of those apply, go pick up a Wii, those things are fun as hell.

Eagoyle

[Xzyliac]

Wii doesn't have the games he said he wants.

[Eagoyle]

Not yet, but knowing Harmonix, they will get it there ASAP, hopefully finding some way to use Wii's motion sensory equipment.

Eagoyle

[Xzyliac]

Not yet, but knowing Harmonix, they will get it there ASAP, hopefully finding some way to use Wii's motion sensory equipment.

Eagoyle

And GTA IV?

[Eagoyle]

And GTA IV?

Good point. It isn't likely it will be out for the Wii, but Nintendo has surprised us before (Resident Evil 4 for the GameCube).

[iNiGhTmAr3]

Yup, Blu-Ray is now dead. Wal-Mart will be selling a Toshiba HD-DVD player for under $100 tomorrow morning. I know it's a sale, but once they get closer to that range permanently, it's all over. DVD didn't get big enough to overtake VHS until players started selling in the $100 range, and those were cheap Chinese knock-offs. This is a sturdy player from a reputable manufacturer. Once Disney realizes the truth and jumps ship for HD-DVD, the game will truly be over.


ummm Blu-Ray is dead? Where have you been for the last 9 months when it has been outselling HD-DVD?

I had an XBox 360, I got the red lights 3 times. The unit they sent back to me was defective too. I used to love the Xbox 360, but ever since I got the PS3, I haven't had any problems. Sure there aren't many good games on it right now, but starting in November a wave of good titles are coming out for the PS3. Plus the price is lowered now and it has been selling more and more in many countries. As a matter of fact, it is close to selling as much as the Wii 's are in Japan. And the PS3 has been outselling the Xbox 360 in Europe. PS3 started out slow, but I believe it will have a better year than the Xbox 360 next year.

By the way, I have all 3 systems so this is coming from my own opinion and some facts.

[icantwaitforrockband]

I think, as a software format, Blu-Ray has great potential.

As a media platform it sucks.

How does that make any sense?

[toefer]

How does that make any sense?

I wondered the same thing. Apparently games != media.

I understand it has slower read times than DVD, but that's what the HDD caching is for. It's as if Sony planned ahead.

[Knuckles7]

Well yeah thats what good companies usually do. They try to perfect it so when they release it, they wont have any problems. Unlike the xbox and the red ring of death :rolleyes:

[InuHanyou1701]

Since the PS3 guys have already chimed in, here's the answers to your 360 questions:

The 360 requires a $100 wireless ethernet adapter (you can find it as low as $85 if you shop around). The 360 is easy to set up, no extra cables.

The system has a built in hard drive (unless you buy a Core or Arcade 360...don't do that, you need the hard drive to truly enjoy the system), so you don't need memory cards unless you want to move saved games around (like to a friend's console).

For the 360, you should not need any cables other than what's in the box, unless you're trying to do something specific with your setup. It comes with a component/composite cable that works for both SD and HDTV. They also sell a VGA cable for it that will allow the 360 to upscale DVDs to 1080i.

In the end, a fully decked out 360 isn't any cheaper than a PS3 (and if you add HD-DVD to counter Blu-Ray it actually costs more), so your deciding factors should be A) What your friends are playing on, and B) Which system has the games you want.

And I also bought a PS2 solely for GH2, then GH1, then GH80s. Maybe we're the reason the console hasn't died yet? :cool:

I would just like to say. You don't have to buy the $100 wireless network adapter for the 360 if you have wireless internet and a computer near your gaming setup. (This works best with a laptop) You can actually let your Xbox 360 feed off of the internet connection your computer recieves VIA having your 360 share the data connection using an ethernet cord. Yeah you have a wire running around your floor and up to your computer but you also have $100 in your pocket. And really, I have been doing this ever since I got the Xbox Live gold subscription since I'm cheap and refuse to pay $100 for something that's not worth that much money and I have had absolutely no problems. The connection works fine and I haven't noticed any lag issues nor have I had people complain about lag issues (Unless it was an issue with my internet which is a whole different story)

[Bullseye]

If I understand you, you're running an ethernet cable from your 360 to a laptop, which has a wireless connection? Sounds like I'll be picking up a 360 premium w/ the GHII guitar bundle on black friday. Not knowing if the PS2 guitars work w/ the PS3, and the whole backwards compatibility inconsistencies have dissuaded a Playstation fanboy from buying the more expensive Sony.