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axe990
11-01-2007, 01:12 PM
"This adds a completely new type of strategy: do you always use Overdrive as soon as it's available, or do you try to save it and get a full bar of Energy -- which means the game keeps giving you chances to do fills (which in turn removes stretches of notes you could be using to bump up your score). For the short term, we found it was beneficial to use Overdrive as soon as it was available, unless we were about to go into a quiet section of the song."

from: http://xbox360.gamespy.com/xbox-360/harmonix-music-project/831915p1.html

So every fill IS charted, but some are removed for Overdrive usage. Nice!

the_spike
11-01-2007, 01:30 PM
Cool, so now basically we can play the full song in practice.

Bakkster
11-01-2007, 01:56 PM
I saw that too. I'm not totally convinced that's true, but it makes sense.

drno830
11-01-2007, 02:09 PM
The third song sent shockwaves of fear through the band: "Next To You" by the Police. <b>You see, by the time you reach this song in Rock Band's World Tour mode, the entire band is forced to play on Hard.</b>

Did anyone else see this? This could throw a major kink into most peoples bass/guitar/drums and singing strategies.

Nazriel
11-01-2007, 03:39 PM
To spread the holy light of information; and quell the rampage of barbaric rumors from the interwebs' unwashed legions:



Also, you mentioned in the Round 2 report that you need to play Hard in the BWT - you can actually "finish" BWT without ever having to go above medium, the hard gigs are the side quest equivilant of the BWT.

Source (http://www.scorehero.com/forum/viewt...r=asc&start=15)

No, you do not have to play on Hard to "beat" the BWT mode. But you can do some sidequests which require Hard. Expert sidequests have not been brought up yet, they may or may not exist.

admanimal
11-01-2007, 04:34 PM
I saw that too. I'm not totally convinced that's true, but it makes sense.

Yeah from what I remember from playing the game, that's not really how it works. In any case, the drum fills are quite possibly the greatest thing ever. You can go crazy and sound like a train wreck or actually sound pretty cool once you get the hang of it.

holyground
11-02-2007, 12:21 AM
I'm actually inclined to believe the replacement fills info. I heard it before and tried it out on In Bloom: going through the song once and using OD as soon as I could and then going through and skipping it.


if you skip the 1st overdrive, it'll offer it to you again on the next fill. If you use the 1st OD, then that fill is charted.

dragulaAC
11-02-2007, 12:30 AM
yahh, I'm going to have to youtube some videos of random fills being played in these songs to see what the heck I'm doing wrong hah. My fills sound horrifying. Definitely need a little work. And yet, they're stlll amazingly fun and they'll just be that much more fun when I figure it out.

ManOwaR
11-02-2007, 12:46 AM
This game will be so fun, and if I ever get burn out or guitar vertigo (ever played too many songs in a row?!?) Can try the singing.

tbradshaw
11-02-2007, 01:01 AM
I saw that too. I'm not totally convinced that's true, but it makes sense.

I know Sluggo personally, and he really knows his GH and Rock Band ****, unlike the vast majority of gaming journalists. He's finished the drum solo career on Hard, so he's probably got a big enough sample size to be sure.

maddrummerdan86
11-02-2007, 01:05 AM
sweet now i can go nuts on those drums! im gonna smack the **** out of em til my sticks break!

Electric_Zen
11-02-2007, 01:22 AM
The Scorehero guys did a detailed writeup after playing the game the whole day at Harmonix, and they said the exact same thing. The original fills are charted, but are overlaid when you have overdrive. And you will miss out on a max score if you hold on to your overdrive for too long.

BiffMan
11-02-2007, 02:29 AM
Simple enough to test... Go to Best Buy and just make sure to never be successful on a star power (I refuse to call it overdrive just because) sequence and you shouldn't ever have a fill section come up since you'd never be ready to engage star power.

admanimal
11-02-2007, 03:11 AM
The Scorehero guys did a detailed writeup after playing the game the whole day at Harmonix, and they said the exact same thing. The original fills are charted, but are overlaid when you have overdrive. And you will miss out on a max score if you hold on to your overdrive for too long.

Huh I never noticed that, just that the freeform fills were awesome to play.

desyphur
11-02-2007, 04:50 AM
sweet now i can go nuts on those drums! im gonna smack the **** out of em til my sticks break!

That sounds painful.

Anyways, can't wait to rock out on the drums on my PS2 version >.>

BiffMan
11-02-2007, 05:25 AM
Tested it out at the Best Buy demo today and can confirm that's how it appears to work. If you don't have Overdrive *cough*Starpower*cough* ready, then you'll get a charted fill. If you have overdrive ready, then you get a free-form fill that if you play during, a cymbal (green) note will rise up (I like that animation) at the end of the fill, hit that note and you kick off overdrive.

Lengthy way to say: Woot! That's correct, the full song has been charted out, so I'd presume that it should show up in practice as the full chart.

JarethLegend
11-02-2007, 06:27 AM
Tested it out at the Best Buy demo today and can confirm that's how it appears to work. If you don't have Overdrive *cough*Starpower*cough* ready, then you'll get a charted fill. If you have overdrive ready, then you get a free-form fill that if you play during, a cymbal (green) note will rise up (I like that animation) at the end of the fill, hit that note and you kick off overdrive.

Lengthy way to say: Woot! That's correct, the full song has been charted out, so I'd presume that it should show up in practice as the full chart.

That is one of the best things I've heard confirmed in a while. I was really scared that the drum fills in the songs would all get turned into free-form fills and therefore remove a lot of the difficulty in many songs.