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JBabin3xb
11-04-2007, 01:15 AM
I do realize that DLC is hard to make and takes alot of time, and i don't mind paying 1.25-1.40 a song if it's good. But what if we already have the album? There should be a way that we can insert the original CD ( not burned ) into our 360/ps3, copy it to the hard drive, then be able to go to live and see if there is a notes file for it ( kinda like frets on fire ). and then once its done rockband can encode it and hide it in it's own music format on the disc.

That, i think, would be the best way the music industry can respect the ownership of the music we already have, if we already have the song, I'd say charge us 89cents for the notes file.

Akaymay
11-04-2007, 01:20 AM
It would be waaaay too complicated. People could easily just illegally download the music, and get it much cheaper. I mean, even 1.50 just for a notechart is reasonable. Think about the time they have to go through to get the license for the song(s), and then have to go through each individual instrument, and make a note chart for all of them, then go through every single syllable of every single word and make a pitch for each one. It's a LOT more complicated, time consuming, and money-consuming process.

Besides, how would HMX make any money? I mean, 80 cents per note chart is kinda ridiculous.

MundaneSoul
11-04-2007, 01:28 AM
Yeah, it would be kinda cool, but there's just no way.

JBabin3xb
11-04-2007, 02:10 AM
It would be waaaay too complicated. People could easily just illegally download the music, and get it much cheaper. I mean, even 1.50 just for a notechart is reasonable. Think about the time they have to go through to get the license for the song(s), and then have to go through each individual instrument, and make a note chart for all of them, then go through every single syllable of every single word and make a pitch for each one. It's a LOT more complicated, time consuming, and money-consuming process.

Besides, how would HMX make any money? I mean, 80 cents per note chart is kinda ridiculous.

well i mean they are doing that anyway, for all the other songs. I'm just saying that all cds have a code for gracenote and all of that, and a upc if you want to make sure its legit. a small discount not as low as maybe 80 cents, but still significant. And it should be for content they already have up, and if you already have that band's music you would get it for a little cheaper, so all of the work is already done on there part.

HPLabonte
11-04-2007, 02:25 AM
if you've played the demo, you'd know this would not work at all.

The CD of Who's Next that you own is not separated into Drum tracks, Bass track, guitar track, vocal track, so if the drummer or something fails out, you'd either hear nothing at all, or everything, and I though the toughest thing in the demo was saving the drummer because he was keeping the beat for you.

toefer
11-04-2007, 02:27 AM
well i mean they are doing that anyway, for all the other songs. I'm just saying that all cds have a code for gracenote and all of that, and a upc if you want to make sure its legit. a small discount not as low as maybe 80 cents, but still significant. And it should be for content they already have up, and if you already have that band's music you would get it for a little cheaper, so all of the work is already done on there part.

I'm not sure how Frets on Fire works. If you miss a note, does it not play it? It seems more like it would just play the song regardless of what you are playing, but you try to hit the buttons in time with it. I think it'd be really hard to do well, by just using a program, particularly if you have multiple instruments going at once.

More plausible, perhaps, is to just hope that Rock Band really takes off, and is this huge new phenomenon. Then HMX strikes up deals with record companies, that allows them to offer you free RB tracks when you buy an album, by giving you a special code to use, to download the songs.

So say you buy the new Foo Fighters CD. Inside you get a special code to go online, through some theoretical HMX music store, and you can get a couple of the songs from the CD downloaded to your system to use in Rock Band.

HMX can win, because the record companies can pay them the fees to make the songs, and record companies can maybe win, as it at least gives someone some incentive to buy a CD.

Xzyliac
11-04-2007, 02:51 AM
First, as HP said, you need master tracks to split each track into guitar, bass, drums, and vocals. A CD doesn't provide that.

Second, as Akaymay said, it's a money issue. They have to charge enough to collectively blanket alot of cost. If you have Nevermind from the 90s lying around you've already gotten your money back per se because in time the cost and use balanced out. By using that disc to get a discounted notechart Harmonix loses money because you basically got half the song free.

JBabin3xb
11-04-2007, 09:21 AM
well your all right about the masters, and i do agree with the special code. maybe put your original cd in the 360 and let it give you a code. thats more of the spirit i'm trying to get at. I would love getting discounts on music i already own.

Xzyliac
11-04-2007, 09:25 AM
well your all right about the masters, and i do agree with the special code. maybe put your original cd in the 360 and let it give you a code. thats more of the spirit i'm trying to get at. I would love getting discounts on music i already own.

Wouldn't we all.

Eman311
11-04-2007, 09:29 AM
Man, that would just never work. You're talkign technology and an interface that doesn't even exist. Not to mention the music cd you bought hasn't been licensed for use within the game. I mean it sounds great and all, but a very pointless ambition to have.

Murderous_Urges
11-04-2007, 09:36 AM
Don't think of it as buying songs because really you aren't you are buying game material for a video game not a cd player. You are buying four note charts that are for the enjoyment purposes of playing on a video game not the enjoyment purposes of sitting back and relaxing to some music. Considering what it takes to make the four note tracks in a week no less HMX needs the money and it has to be split between some people. In so saying you are paying for four note tracks plus a song if you play 100%.

LongDarkBlues
11-04-2007, 10:57 AM
Don't think of it as buying songs because really you aren't you are buying game material for a video game not a cd player. You are buying four note charts that are for the enjoyment purposes of playing on a video game not the enjoyment purposes of sitting back and relaxing to some music. Considering what it takes to make the four note tracks in a week no less HMX needs the money and it has to be split between some people. In so saying you are paying for four note tracks plus a song if you play 100%.

Yeah - that's pretty much it - as far as they are concerned, you're not paying for the song, you're paying for the game content.