Critique of the full setlist in terms of vocals

[xenopherus]

Now that the final setlist and most bonus songs have been revealed, I thought it'd be fun to go through and pick which songs I'm most looking forward to singing and which ones I'm not. It was oddly satisfying to write out exactly what I think of each song. It's almost like a burden has been lifted (albeit a tiny one in my life right now). I love rating stuff, and I've been wanting to do this for awhile. It's really a moot point to have chosen songs to replace others, but it was all a part of the healing process to let go of my hopes for a perfect setlist and accept that many of the bands and/or songs I wanted will most likely never be offered in any capacity. Once again, these are all rated purely on a singing fun factor.



Main Setlist
1960's
Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter Good
1970's
Black Sabbath - Paranoid Great
Mountain - Mississippi Queen Great
Deep Purple - Highway Star Great
The Who - Won't Get Fooled Again Great
David Bowie - Suffragette City Dumb, should have gone with something better: Heroes, Young Americans or Ashes To Ashes

Sweet - Ballroom Blitz Great
Aerosmith - Train Kept A-Rollin' Good
The Outlaws - Green Grass and High Tides Not familiar with the song, but probably will be good.

The Ramones - Blitzkrieg Bop Horrible, I hate this band/song. For punk they should?ve chosen a real punk band. Like The Sex Pistols or The Anti-Nowhere League. To me, it's not real punk unless the singer has a thick, heavy cockney British accent.

Boston - Foreplay/Long Time Great
Blue Öyster Cult - Don't Fear the Reaper Great
Kiss - Detroit Rock City Dumb- Should've been replaced by Queen or AC/DC
The Police - Next To You Dumb
Molly Hatchet - Flirtin' With Disaster Awful band/song. Should've been replaced by Queen, Led Zepplin, CCR, The Guess Who. Plethora of much better bands for the 70's. Abysmal choice.

1980's
Rush - Tom Sawyer Great
Iron Maiden - Run To The Hills Good
The Clash - Should I Stay or Should I Go Dumb song choice. Should've replaced it with London Calling, Radio Clash or Lost In The Supermarket

Bon Jovi - Wanted Dead or Alive Good
Faith No More - Epic Great
R. E. M. - Orange Crush Could be fun
Pixies - Wave of Mutilation Not familiar

1990's
Metallica - Enter Sandman Great
Nirvana - In Bloom Good
Radiohead - Creep Good
The Smashing Pumpkins - Cherub Rock Good, but Bullet With Butterfly Wings or Zero would've been much more fun to sing.

Weezer - Say It Ain't So Terrible song choice for them. Should've been replaced with Buddy Holly, Undone or The Hash Pipe.

Beastie Boys - Sabotage Bleh... Not a fan, but it might be fun to sing.
Soundgarden- Black Hole Sun Great
Stone Temple Pilots - Vasoline Good
Hole - Celebrity Skin HORRIBLE!!! Absolutely does not belong in this game. Should've been replaced with Kittie, Lacuna Coil, In This Moment. So many other superior bands out there.

Garbage - I Think I'm Paranoid Meh, Wish I'd been I'm Only Happy When It Rains
Foo Fighters - Learn to Fly Good

2000's
The Hives - Main Offender HORRIBLE!!! This clumsy, talentless band do not belong in this game. Should've been replaced with Lamb Of God, Cradle Of Filth, Godsmack, Staind, Disturbed, Opeth, Strapping Young Lad. An abundance of far more talented bands for this decade.

Queens of the Stone Age - Go with the Flow Mediocre band/song. Bland to sing.
Fall Out Boy - Dead on Arrival Gross lapse in judgment for this band to be included. Should've been replaced by Drowing Pool - Bodies.

Jet - Are You Gonna Be My Girl Crappy band/song. Might be fun to sing, but doubtful.

The New Pornographers - Electric Version Meh, don't know 'em. Don't have an opinion except that I wish they'd chosen a better known band with fun songs.

Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Maps To quote this month's EGM: The YYY's is like, you want to rock, but then you put on F***in Cindy Lauper - Time After Time. Stupid choice for the game, wimpy vocals. Complete trash.

The Strokes - Reptilia Ehh... Wish it had been their one and only good song: Last Nite

Coheed and Cambria - Welcome Home Abysmal selection. Should've been replaced with The Shins, The Mars Volta, or American Head Charge. C&C are a crappy band, and I'm not looking forward to being forced to sing this horribleness.

Nine Inch Nails - The Hand That Feeds Meh, Don't like NIN at all.
Ok Go - Here It Goes Again Not familiar with the song.
The Killers - When You Were Young I really like the Killers, but wish they'd chosen a better song by them, like Mr. Brightside, Smile Like You Mean It or The Midnight Show.

Red Hot Chili Peppers- Dani California Meh

Bonus Songs

Timmy and the Lords of the Underworld Not looking forward to singing this. Bizzare and unfunny/not clever selection.

The Konks - 29 Fingers Not familiar
Flyleaf - I'm So Sick Could be fun to sing
The Acrobats - Day Late, Dollar Short Not familiar
Anarchy Club - Blood Doll Not familiar
Bang Camaro - Pleasure (Pleasure) Not familiar
Crooked X ? Nightmare Not familiar
Freezepop ? Brainpower Should be great. I loved Freezepop's other songs on GH
The Mother Hips - Time We Had Not familiar
Vagiant - Seven Not familiar
Honest Bob and the Factory-to-Dealer Incentives - I Get By Eh... They're alright.
Death of Cool - Can't Let Go Not Familiar
Tribe - Outside Not Familiar

[Desensitized]

I hope you're joking about the Sex Pistols being a real punk band and not The Ramones. The Sex Pistols were completely manufactured in every way, their most famous member didn't play on their sole album, and they suck.

I'd rather have some Stooges, Minutemen, Modern Lovers, Ramones, New York Dolls or Undertones before any Sex Pistols.

[Chris_Gonzalez]

I like how you say that Coheed and Cambria is a crappy band, but then say that you like The Killers. That's just general bad opinion. And the Strokes song is a great choice. I love Reptilia.

But anyway, I think they'll all be at least relatively fun to sing. Except for Celebrity Skin and Maps, but I've got my friend singing those.

[IbanezBassist_v2]

Be prepared for a war....

[Oxyplox]

I was agreeing for the most part until you bashed The Strokes and Co/Ca.
Lulz.

[blue_dragonzero]

I disagree with this critique. Replacing songs with songs by the same band is fine, but replacing bands just makes you look like a *****.

[MundaneSoul]

You seem pretty disappointed with a majority of the songs. Personally I disagree on several fronts, but I won't get in to details. I'm looking forward to belting out vocals on almost all of these songs.

[KaoAtlas]

I agree with the most part.

Atleast we have DLC.

[Jack_Harvard]

So--and don't get me wrong on this--it seems like this isn't really a critique of the vocals, but of the songs in general. I mean, it's all a matter of taste, right? I'm not particularly a fan of The New Pornographers, for example, but I think that song will be really fun to sing. In fact, as far as singing goes, I don't think there's a single song on the setlist I'm not looking forward to, except for maybe Celebrity Skin.

So, I'm just saying this looks more like sounding off about which songs you don't like, as opposed to what songs will be or won't be fun to sing. Then again, I'm wrong about 99% of the time, so take everything I say with a grain of salt.

[Jack_Harvard]

Be prepared for a war....

Chyeah. No kidding, right? I can already see it coming.

[GrayInvisible]

I like it. I agreed with a good bit of it.

It's more of a critique of the songs themselves, but for some people, it's only fun to sing songs that they like.

[IbanezBassist_v2]

I have to agree with Blue Dragon and Jack. It's not really a critique per se'. More of a revision of a set list you'd prefer.

[HMXChrisCanfield]

The New Pornographers - Electric Version ...I wish they'd chosen a better known band with fun songs.

Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Maps ...Complete trash.


Not to threadjack away from the very personal area of vocals, but have you listened to the drum lines on these songs?

[xxjoesusxx]

Claiming that the ramones are not real punk is just downright ******ed.

By no means are you required to like the band, but the ramones were the original punk band, not only by genre but by action. They were never manufactured or sold out. The Sex Pistols were inspired BY the ramones, bands like the clash would of never been around where the ramones never conceived.

If they were to change peanut butters formula, would you claim that the original peanut butter is no longer peanut butter ?

thats just ******ed.

the ramones were the originals, you dont have to like it, but they ARE punk rock, and you saying the vocals are not guttural or deep enough, you clearly havent listened to any of their CDs, what, have you listened to like four songs ? Joey Ramone was very capable of deeper more intense vocals, take songs like garden of serenity, or somebody put something in my drink then come back to the table if you think you know everything about who's who in the music world.


pfft....sex pistols.

[wes_jett2008]

Im just going to post a list of songs that I might be physically possible to sing...I suck...

Are You Gonna Be My Girl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Are_You_Gonna_Be_My_Girl) – Jet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_%28band%29) <--Gotta give these guys love,they stole my last name..

Black Hole Sun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hole_Sun) - Soundgarden (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soundgarden) <---I'll just try to sing like im bored,Love this song though.

Enter Sandman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enter_Sandman) – Metallica (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metallica) <--I can actually sound like james so im pretty excited about this one.

In Bloom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Bloom) – Nirvana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana_%28band%29) <---My natural singing voice is quite Cobainish so I'll enjoy this one.

Learn to Fly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learn_to_Fly) – Foo Fighters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo_Fighters) <---I'll probably suck at this one,but I like the Foos so this one should be fun.

Sabotage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabotage_%28song%29) – Beastie Boys (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beastie_Boys) <--I actually like this song on GH3,Should be quite funny to sing..errr rap to this one.

Paranoid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoid_%28song%29) – Black Sabbath (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sabbath) <---Me trying to do the ozzy voice should be intresting.


And those are pretty much the only ones im going to even try to sing,Drumming is my thing.

[xenopherus]

Claiming that the ramones are not real punk is just downright ******ed.

By no means are you required to like the band, but the ramones were the original punk band, not only by genre but by action. They were never manufactured or sold out. The Sex Pistols were inspired BY the ramones, bands like the clash would of never been around where the ramones never conceived.

If they were to change peanut butters formula, would you claim that the original peanut butter is no longer peanut butter ?

thats just ******ed.

the ramones were the originals, you dont have to like it, but they ARE punk rock, and you saying the vocals are not guttural or deep enough, you clearly havent listened to any of their CDs, what, have you listened to like four songs ? Joey Ramone was very capable of deeper more intense vocals, take songs like garden of serenity, or somebody put something in my drink then come back to the table if you think you know everything about who's who in the music world.


pfft....sex pistols.

I don't even really like the Sex Pistols, and the only song I've ever heard by The Anti-Nowhere League is that one called So What. As a genre, I hate punk music, but the kind where the singers have the heavy british accents would at least be fun to mimmick. And by that I mean the dudes who sing like: 'ello, guvnuh you bloody wanker!
How deep or gutteral the singing is has nothing to do with what I meant.

But yeah, I know absolutely nothing about punk (history/everything else) so anything I say about it will sound very ******ed to those who like it. I didn't mean to be that inflamitory, but I guess it should've been obvious to me knowing that so many people love the Ramones. But again, I was basing everything on vocals alone, and I just don't like Joey Ramones' singing voice, and I don't think I'll have a fun time mimmicking the song.

[Seattle_Sound]

I don't even really like the Sex Pistols, and the only song I've ever heard by The Anti-Nowhere League is that one called So What. As a genre, I hate punk music, but the kind where the singers have the heavy british accents would at least be fun to mimmick. And by that I mean the dudes who sing like: 'ello, guvnuh you bloody wanker!
How deep or gutteral the singing is has nothing to do with what I meant.

But yeah, I know absolutely nothing about punk (history/everything else) so anything I say about it will sound very ******ed to those who like it. I didn't mean to be that inflamitory, but I guess it should've been obvious to me knowing that so many people love the Ramones. But again, I was basing everything on vocals alone, and I just don't like Joey Ramones' singing voice, and I don't think I'll have a fun time mimmicking the song.

Lol I'm a punk fan and I can tell you that the Ramones and Sex Pistols both suck. They are lame in comparison to Black Flag and Minor Threat. Husker Du, Bad Brains, and such are really good punk bands. But I agree that most of the 00's section of the game is pretty weak.

[GrayInvisible]

Lol I'm a punk fan and I can tell you that the Ramones and Sex Pistols both suck. They are lame in comparison to Black Flag and Minor Threat. Husker Du, Bad Brains, and such are really good punk bands. But I agree that most of the 00's section of the game is pretty weak.

Those bands would not have existed without the Ramones or The Sex Pistols. The original punk bands were much better than the hardcore punk crap.

[Seattle_Sound]

Those bands would not have existed without the Ramones or The Sex Pistols. The original punk bands were much better than the hardcore punk crap.

I didnt say that the Ramones and Sex Pistols werent INFLUENTIAL. No doubt they inspired and laid the path for future bands but as far as what music they created I believe that the 80's hardcore bands were far superior. Husker Du in particular didnt just bash away and make meaningless noise. They introduced melody and made intricate songs. Minor Threat had great energy and meaningful lyrics that were pretty influential. Black Flag was just awesome. Many people judge the hardcore bands without really listening to them. They arent just a bunch of metalheads banging away, many of the better bands were great musicians.

[Quinarvy]

I think you should judge covers on the in game version, not the original.

Example: Ballroom Blitz has amazing vocals. The cover made me cry.

[foolosophy]

I thought you did well up until you hit the 90's and 00's. You start bashing songs that I think will be interesting vocally. I'm one of the few who like Maps so I look forward to playing that song. Disagree on The Ramones critique in every aspect. I agree on the swapping of SISOSG with London Calling. Oh and Gimme Shelter should be "****ing Awesome out the Wazoo" ;)

[xxjoesusxx]

before everyone flips out, i didnt intend to start an argument, as i stated in my original post, you dont have to LIKE the ramones, i could care less if you do, i was just stating the fact that they were influential and the fathers of punk rock, even if it was more of a pop punk, but most punk bands of that era (the clash) were more of a pop punk.

I dont think punk is the best genre out there, but i believe it was absolutely necessary for rock music to stay alive. i think punk saved rock. back when the ramones first formed, rock became such a tame term that things like simon and garfunkle were considered rock. as awesome as led zeppelin is, stairway to heaven is not a hard rocking song, its not a wicked, throw the horns up and mosh kind of rock song. If it werent for punk rock taking rock back to its basics, being a loud, fast, wall of noise, i think rock music would of continued becoming tame.


Like it or not, they single handidly saved rock and roll