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Highlandlassie1
08-11-2008, 02:03 PM
Daughtry's debut album has sold more than any debut album in history.

Harmonix, don't you think it would sell DLC like hotcakes?

This guy is the best thing to ever come from American Idol.

I have never watched a single episode of this show, but know that this guy rocks from his music.

As a vocalist, it would be awesome to belt out these songs.

MGSfanboy
08-11-2008, 02:05 PM
Daughtry's debut album has sold more than any debut album in history.

Harmonix, don't you think it would sell DLC like hotcakes?

This guy is the best thing to ever come from American Idol.

I have never watched a single episode of this show, but know that this guy from his music.

As a vocalist, it would be awesome to belt out these songs.

I would only like "It's Not Over" and the fact on best selling debut album is false that belongs to either Guns N' Roses or Boston

Highlandlassie1
08-11-2008, 02:15 PM
I would only like "It's Not Over" and the fact on best selling debut album is false that belongs to either Guns N' Roses or Boston


I thought it seemd strange when I read that, forgot the source, but at the time I took it to be a good one.

I would have guessed Van Halen's first album.

As for Daughtry, have you listened to all of the album?

All the songs on there are good, except for one "tear jerker", and most are great.

David2380
08-11-2008, 02:47 PM
I agree about daughtry...there are 3 or 4 songs off that album that really rock and his vocals are top-notched. Also you read that correctly that the album is te FASTEST selling debut rock album in terms of from release date in rock history according to Nielsen sound scan. Other debuts have obviously sold more (Boston debut)...but none in the amount of time right now from its release(18 months?)

macdaddy3598
08-11-2008, 03:45 PM
Call me mainstream (which I've been accused of already, so you won't be the first), however, I digg Daughtry. One of his tunes is on Guitar Hero:On Tour and it's fun to play... I bet it would be a good fit provided GH doesn't own him like American Idol's production studios did (does).

sg39755
08-11-2008, 07:02 PM
Daughtry's album was the highest selling of 2007 and his drummer Joey Barnes is one of the best young drummers in the business. Would love to see his album on rockband dlc. WOULD DEFINITELY BUY!!!!

Fuelie79
08-11-2008, 07:03 PM
no

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Mikey35
08-11-2008, 08:23 PM
YES!!! We want Daughtry!!

instantdeath999
08-11-2008, 08:24 PM
Personally... no thanks. He sounds a lot like about 50 other bands.

I wouldn't buy it, and I don't know if it would sell on rock band. But whatever.

woodwindpizza
08-11-2008, 08:26 PM
YES YES YES!!! EPIC WIN :D

I know like me and 20 people that think Daughtry would be an INSTA-BUY :D

Hisan
08-11-2008, 08:43 PM
I might buy it, depends on the song, though.

csvdavies87
08-11-2008, 09:13 PM
Crashed and What I Want are my faves.. along with All These Lives

Wedge19
08-11-2008, 09:22 PM
I agree, a Daughtry 3 pack would have huge success.

Landario
08-12-2008, 03:50 AM
Hi,

definately yes.

"Home" would rock :-)

Landario

Lithium_666
08-12-2008, 03:55 AM
yeah i think most ppl would buy this, and to whoever said he sounds like 50 other bands youre crazy, i am a real vocalist and even though i myself do not like his music, i believe he is the best vocalist currently in music

Sambo
08-12-2008, 04:15 AM
I would agree to this. Their album would be a perfect DLC, especially when rocking out to Feels Like Tonight! :D

Highlandlassie1
08-15-2008, 12:00 PM
Personally... no thanks. He sounds a lot like about 50 other bands.

I wouldn't buy it, and I don't know if it would sell on rock band. But whatever.


Wow, 50 bands?

Can you name them for me, I would sure like to buy some of their music as well.

I do not know of any band with the power voice that is Chris Daughtry.

I love trying to sing his songs, it really comes from the heart.

This album is one of the best rock albums ever and I think his voice is a breath of fresh air amounst a sea of whiney, modern vocalists.

Most other vocalists are WEAK and feeble compared to Daughtry.

sitbooboosit
08-15-2008, 12:08 PM
This guy is the best thing to ever come from American Idol.


Not saying much. The man is a poor excuse for a musician. His music is terrible throwaway pop-rock that people go crazy about just because he was on American Idol. Besides, I met the man a while back before he was famous and he was a dick.

dragonanthony86
08-15-2008, 02:04 PM
daughtry's good, but he's pretty overrated. you hear way too many of his songs on the radio, over and over again

TheMeatball
08-15-2008, 03:00 PM
Awful, awful trash.

If you want Nickleback, just listen to Nickleback. Or Theory of a Deadman. Or Default. Or Hinder.

The point is we don't need another post-grunge clone. It's all crap.

sitbooboosit
08-15-2008, 06:45 PM
Awful, awful trash.

If you want Nickleback, just listen to Nickleback. Or Theory of a Deadman. Or Default. Or Hinder.

The point is we don't need another post-grunge clone. It's all crap.

Could not have been said better.

instantdeath999
08-15-2008, 06:52 PM
Wow, 50 bands?

Can you name them for me, I would sure like to buy some of their music as well.

I do not know of any band with the power voice that is Chris Daughtry.

I love trying to sing his songs, it really comes from the heart.

This album is one of the best rock albums ever and I think his voice is a breath of fresh air amounst a sea of whiney, modern vocalists.

Most other vocalists are WEAK and feeble compared to Daughtry.

There's very little to differentiate them from average modern rock. Not to mention that many of his songs sound shockingly similar.

The problem is, he is just so cliche. His lyrics are completely uninspired, and certainly do not "come from the heart". They are also quite "whiny", like the other vocalists you criticized.

I know it's all opinion. I have no idea what you would have to be on to call it one of the best rock albums of all time, though.

Highlandlassie1
08-15-2008, 06:57 PM
Awful, awful trash.

If you want Nickleback, just listen to Nickleback. Or Theory of a Deadman. Or Default. Or Hinder.

The point is we don't need another post-grunge clone. It's all crap.

If you took the sales from Daughtry and Nickelback combined, the figure would be huge.

How can it crap if so many people are willing to shell out money for it?

The reason they have this whole DLC thing, is for MONEY.

It is not to please you or me, or anyone else, but is about SELLING MUSIC.

If Nickelback or Daughtry were on Rockband, it would sell at a record pace.

It is REAL rock and roll, there is nothing "grunge" about it.

It rocks like the bands that I loved when I was young.

It is classic rock done today, with all of the technological advancements that go along with it.

Most modern music IS crap.

The bands you mentioned are THE EXCEPTION.

THAT is why they sell so much, they appeal to people WITH MONEY!

Understand that there are older folks here that love rock and roll made in the traditional way rock was designed.

instantdeath999
08-15-2008, 06:58 PM
If you took the sales from Daughtry and Nickelback combined, the figure would be huge.

How can it crap if so many people are willing to shell out money for it?

The reason they have this whole DLC thing, is for MONEY.

It is not to please you or me, or anyone else, but is about SELLING MUSIC.

If Nickelback or Daughtry were on Rockband, it would sell at a record pace.

It is REAL rock and roll, there is nothing "grunge" about it.

It rocks like the bands that I loved when I was young.

It is classic rock done today, with all of the technological advancements that go along with it.

Most modern music IS crap.

The bands you mentioned are THE EXCEPTION.

THAT is why they sell so much, they appeal to people WITH MONEY!

Understand that there are older folks here that love rock and roll made in the traditional way rock was designed.

Since you used an overly cliche argument... I'll throw one right back.

Sales don't reflect quality. Look at the Jonas Brothers, Hannah Montana, Backstreet Boys, Britney Spears, and Nsync.

There's nothing that makes him unique. These songs could have been written 20 years ago.

Highlandlassie1
08-15-2008, 07:04 PM
There's very little to differentiate them from average modern rock. Not to mention that many of his songs sound shockingly similar.

The problem is, he is just so cliche. His lyrics are completely uninspired, and certainly do not "come from the heart". They are also quite "whiny", like the other vocalists you criticized.

I know it's all opinion. I have no idea what you would have to be on to call it one of the best rock albums of all time, though.

Compare the vocals to say, Greenday.

Not even close.

All of his song sound similar.

That is a GOOD thing, if you like that style, and huge amounts of people do.
You can put in a cd and listen the whole thing without skipping.
Compare that to, lets say RHCPeppers. You get a couple of rock songs that are hits and some rap crap that makes your ears bleed.
No thanks.

If you have ever seen a live Daughtry performance you would know that he is the real deal, and his songs and that powerful voice does indeed come from the heart.

Highlandlassie1
08-15-2008, 07:09 PM
These songs could have been written 20 years ago.


Thank you, you just made my point for me.

I loved the music of 20 years ago, but everyone needs new music to listen to.

To have old school rock and roll made with todays high tech digital recording is exactly what I look for in my music.

Maybe if you were my age you would agree with me. (I'm 46)

instantdeath999
08-15-2008, 07:09 PM
Compare the vocals to say, Greenday.

Not even close.

All of his song sound similar.

That is a GOOD thing, if you like that style, and huge amounts of people do.
You can put in a cd and listen the whole thing without skipping.
Compare that to, lets say RHCPeppers. You get a couple of rock songs that are hits and some rap crap that makes your ears bleed.
No thanks.

If you have ever seen a live Daughtry performance you would know that he is the real deal, and his songs and that powerful voice does indeed come from the heart.

Well, Greenday has been around a lot longer, and punk isn't meant to have the most appealing vocals, but I see where you are coming from.

He has a good voice. I just don't think he's very creative. However, I see what your saying... some people like albums that have one style. I've always though of it as "playing it safe", as compared to the Red Hot Chili Peppers, who experiment, and really don't have one overall style. I personally prefer the latter.

Most modern rock is like that, though. I mean, look at the way the fans turned against Weezer when they decided to become more experimental with Pinkerton... eh, depends on the listener, I guess.



Thank you, you just made my point for me.

I loved the music of 20 years ago, but everyone needs new music to listen to.

To have old school rock and roll made with todays high tech digital recording is exactly what I look for in my music.

Maybe if you were my age you would agree with me. (I'm 46)

I guess, for nostalgic purposes. It goes back to the whole creativity thing. Airbourne, for example, sounds almost exactly like AC/DC, though I don't really mind their music.

Sorry if I came off as a jerk.

sitbooboosit
08-15-2008, 07:10 PM
Compare the vocals to say, Greenday.

Not even close.

All of his song sound similar.

That is a GOOD thing, if you like that style, and huge amounts of people do.
You can put in a cd and listen the whole thing without skipping.
Compare that to, lets say RHCPeppers. You get a couple of rock songs that are hits and some rap crap that makes your ears bleed.
No thanks.

If you have ever seen a live Daughtry performance you would know that he is the real deal, and his songs and that powerful voice does indeed come from the heart.


Oh no you didn't.

Anthony Kiedis can actually sing, rather than making awful dying hippopotamus noises that are the musical stylings of DAUGHTRY.

Also, RHCP have talent when it comes to writing songs and performing. Just look at the lists of the greatest male vocalists, drummers, guitarists, and bassists of all time and let me know what band you see every musician from on there. Let's see... is Daughtry on there? No. Is every song by him a piece of crap that people jump all over just because he was on American Idol? Yes. Was he a total dick when I met him? Yes.

Highlandlassie1
08-15-2008, 07:22 PM
Oh no you didn't.

Anthony Kiedis can actually sing, rather than making awful dying hippopotamus noises that are the musical stylings of DAUGHTRY.

Also, RHCP have talent when it comes to writing songs and performing. Just look at the lists of the greatest male vocalists, drummers, guitarists, and bassists of all time and let me know what band you see every musician from on there. Let's see... is Daughtry on there? No. Is every song by him a piece of crap that people jump all over just because he was on American Idol? Yes. Was he a total dick when I met him? Yes.

Honestly, I have NEVER watched a single episode of American Idol.

I heard a song on the radio and someone told me he was from American Idol.

I would have never known.

The show I liked was Rockstar: Supernova

I used RHCP as an example of a band that is inconsistant with their style.

I love some songs and hate others.

I dont like that in a band.

Do what you do and stick with it.

I am sorry that he was a dick to you, but I think most musicians are like that at that level.

There are of course exceptions.

I am not in the habit of judging musicians for anything else but their music.

sitbooboosit
08-15-2008, 07:26 PM
He was a dick before he was ever anywhere near famous. My cousin's fiancee was in a band with him.
Of course, that's irrelevant I suppose.

TheMeatball
08-15-2008, 08:19 PM
If you took the sales from Daughtry and Nickelback combined, the figure would be huge.

How can it crap if so many people are willing to shell out money for it?

The reason they have this whole DLC thing, is for MONEY.

It is not to please you or me, or anyone else, but is about SELLING MUSIC.That's the reason why the music industry is in the state it's in.


It is REAL rock and roll, there is nothing "grunge" about it. I said post-grunge because that's what Nickleback started out as, but now if I had to pick a genre I'd say "Soul-less Jock-Rock"


It rocks like the bands that I loved when I was young.What bands were those? I seriously cannot see the relation to any classic rock.


It is classic rock done today, with all of the technological advancements that go along with it. And without any of the creativity or heart or songwriting.


Most modern music IS crap.

The bands you mentioned are THE EXCEPTION.

THAT is why they sell so much, they appeal to people WITH MONEY!

Understand that there are older folks here that love rock and roll made in the traditional way rock was designed.
If you think those bands are the best music has to offer you aren't exposed to enough music. The only reason these bands sell so much is because they are the bands your Television, Radio, and Myspace are telling you to buy. If you think they are popular on talent alone who don't understand the music industry.

Even if you're looking for honest hard rocking guitar music, there's plenty out there that isn't garbage. For example: Queens of the Stone Age The White Stripes Devin Townsend Muse The Racontuers The Black AngelsOr even older bands that are still active like: Pearl Jam The Tragically Hip Even bloody U2

I'm not just trying to be a dick, but I really wish you could see that this bad is a product, not an artistic entity. Don't listen to the crap they pump into your brain just because it's there.

rigmedic
08-15-2008, 09:12 PM
I'd buy some daughtry and I don't care who knows it.

David2380
08-15-2008, 10:24 PM
Oh no you didn't.

Anthony Kiedis can actually sing, rather than making awful dying hippopotamus noises that are the musical stylings of DAUGHTRY.

Also, RHCP have talent when it comes to writing songs and performing. Just look at the lists of the greatest male vocalists, drummers, guitarists, and bassists of all time and let me know what band you see every musician from on there. Let's see... is Daughtry on there? No. Is every song by him a piece of crap that people jump all over just because he was on American Idol? Yes. Was he a total dick when I met him? Yes.

Dude, it seems like you have personal issues with him. I'll agree that the RHCPs are much more creative in writing music but there is no way, NO WAY, that Anthony Kiedis has better vocals than Daughtry. Not even close. better musician? Probably but not vocally. Also what band was he in when you knew of him? Absent Element? That band rocked...I like their music better than the stuff he did on his album... I think daughtry is very talented ...did I love his first album? no. But I'm going to hold total judgement until his next one because the first was done with studio musicians before he had his band he plays with now.I have a feeling the next album will be much harder and a bit more experimental...

InB4Lock
08-15-2008, 10:26 PM
Sure I'll take some. Why not?

instantdeath999
08-16-2008, 12:47 AM
Dude, it seems like you have personal issues with him. I'll agree that the RHCPs are much more creative in writing music but there is no way, NO WAY, that Anthony Kiedis has better vocals than Daughtry. Not even close. better musician? Probably but not vocally. Also what band was he in when you knew of him? Absent Element? That band rocked...I like their music better than the stuff he did on his album... I think daughtry is very talented ...did I love his first album? no. But I'm going to hold total judgement until his next one because the first was done with studio musicians before he had his band he plays with now.I have a feeling the next album will be much harder and a bit more experimental...

Depends on what you mean by "better vocals". Personally, I prefer Anthony, even when he isn't rapping (such as on Snow".

sitbooboosit
08-16-2008, 12:55 AM
That's the reason why the music industry is in the state it's in.

I said post-grunge because that's what Nickleback started out as, but now if I had to pick a genre I'd say "Soul-less Jock-Rock"

What bands were those? I seriously cannot see the relation to any classic rock.

And without any of the creativity or heart or songwriting.


If you think those bands are the best music has to offer you aren't exposed to enough music. The only reason these bands sell so much is because they are the bands your Television, Radio, and Myspace are telling you to buy. If you think they are popular on talent alone who don't understand the music industry.

Even if you're looking for honest hard rocking guitar music, there's plenty out there that isn't garbage. For example: Queens of the Stone Age The White Stripes Devin Townsend Muse The Racontuers The Black AngelsOr even older bands that are still active like: Pearl Jam The Tragically Hip Even bloody U2

I'm not just trying to be a dick, but I really wish you could see that this bad is a product, not an artistic entity. Don't listen to the crap they pump into your brain just because it's there.

You're awesome.

OSUjen
08-16-2008, 01:04 AM
This whole "music being an evil business thing" is kind of bull****. Music has been a business for a LONG time, long before lots of people on here think it started.

gunja
08-16-2008, 01:26 AM
Wow, 50 bands?

Can you name them for me, I would sure like to buy some of their music as well.

I do not know of any band with the power voice that is Chris Daughtry.

I love trying to sing his songs, it really comes from the heart.

This album is one of the best rock albums ever and I think his voice is a breath of fresh air amounst a sea of whiney, modern vocalists.

Most other vocalists are WEAK and feeble compared to Daughtry.

I'd love some of what you are smoking. Most other vocalists being weak compared to Daughtry? ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


First off, when I turned on the radio one day, I heard a song that I was sure was by Nickelback. It was Chris Daughtry singing. While I do agree he has a powerful voice and is a better than average singer, his debut album is contrived pop rock garbage that I would have thought he'd be ashamed to make. He sold out faster than a tub of haagen daas at a bingo hall rammed with fat women.

Second, Daughtry is far from original. On American Idol, he sang a cover of I Walk The Line and took credit for the arrangement when Cowell told him how unbelieveably awesome it was. Turns out, he stole the EXACT arrangement from a little ole band called Live, who were in fact the creators of the arrangement Daughtry tried to call his own. Seems it was a big part of his demise on that show.

Also, on the finale of AI that season, Ed Kowalcyzk from Live came on the show and sang his song Mystery on duet with Chris Daughtry. I can provide you the video if you'd like to see how utterly overmatched Daughtry was by Mr Kowalcyzk. He had nowhere near the power, pitch, nor the range of Kowalcyzk.

There are a tonne of singers out there who are a million miles better than Daughtry. I've seen him live once as well and although I agree he is a fairly powerful singer, he's nowhere even close to being the best. His range is extremely limited and his pitch is barely average. He still resorts to singing from his throat to compensate for a lack of proper pitch control when trying to sing from the gut so to speak. Great singers like Freddie Mercury sang from the god damn bowels for christ sakes. These modern day guys sing with that same old contrived throaty croak because they can't sing from deeper down, daughtry included.

Wedge19
08-16-2008, 02:00 AM
I Wouldn't mind seeing some daughtry, Sure I woudl prefer other stuff before Daughtry, but I wouldn't complain if they had some DLC

David2380
08-16-2008, 08:57 AM
I'd love some of what you are smoking. Most other vocalists being weak compared to Daughtry? ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


First off, when I turned on the radio one day, I heard a song that I was sure was by Nickelback. It was Chris Daughtry singing. While I do agree he has a powerful voice and is a better than average singer, his debut album is contrived pop rock garbage that I would have thought he'd be ashamed to make. He sold out faster than a tub of haagen daas at a bingo hall rammed with fat women.

Second, Daughtry is far from original. On American Idol, he sang a cover of I Walk The Line and took credit for the arrangement when Cowell told him how unbelieveably awesome it was. Turns out, he stole the EXACT arrangement from a little ole band called Live, who were in fact the creators of the arrangement Daughtry tried to call his own. Seems it was a big part of his demise on that show.

Also, on the finale of AI that season, Ed Kowalcyzk from Live came on the show and sang his song Mystery on duet with Chris Daughtry. I can provide you the video if you'd like to see how utterly overmatched Daughtry was by Mr Kowalcyzk. He had nowhere near the power, pitch, nor the range of Kowalcyzk.

There are a tonne of singers out there who are a million miles better than Daughtry. I've seen him live once as well and although I agree he is a fairly powerful singer, he's nowhere even close to being the best. His range is extremely limited and his pitch is barely average. He still resorts to singing from his throat to compensate for a lack of proper pitch control when trying to sing from the gut so to speak. Great singers like Freddie Mercury sang from the god damn bowels for christ sakes. These modern day guys sing with that same old contrived throaty croak because they can't sing from deeper down, daughtry included.

Sorry, I can't agree with much of this....Now I didn't watch all of American Idol but I did see that performance of I walk the line and it was superb. Daughtry also noted that the arrangement came from Live so he didn't try to"steal" it. He also changed it into a much more alternative song than what Live did. Now about his vocals, if you want to critisize him for something it can't be his vocals. He has a very rich, deep, unique sounding voice and he can sing his ass off. However you can criticize him on the musical content of his first album. Generic? Yes. pop-rock? yes. not that creative? yes. But, as I've mentioned , it was done with studio musicions and I'm intrigued to see what he does on his 2nd album with his own band .

clfnole
08-16-2008, 05:00 PM
While I could take or leave it if his music is in the game, is popular rock music not allowed in this game? I mean really not everyone really wants to have everyone's favorite "garage" band no one has ever heard of as DLC. The game is designed to have a balance of both. Like them or not but Nickelback or Daughtry (sp) would meet the criteria for Rock Band just the same way the thrash and roadrunner stuff does. Some will like both, some will hate both others will pick and choose what they like.

Why argue? If HMX wants them in the game they will be.

platonic_sound
08-16-2008, 06:46 PM
Nay

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My name is Fez
08-16-2008, 07:02 PM
That's the reason why the music industry is in the state it's in.

I said post-grunge because that's what Nickleback started out as, but now if I had to pick a genre I'd say "Soul-less Jock-Rock"

What bands were those? I seriously cannot see the relation to any classic rock.

And without any of the creativity or heart or songwriting.


If you think those bands are the best music has to offer you aren't exposed to enough music. The only reason these bands sell so much is because they are the bands your Television, Radio, and Myspace are telling you to buy. If you think they are popular on talent alone who don't understand the music industry.

Even if you're looking for honest hard rocking guitar music, there's plenty out there that isn't garbage. For example: Queens of the Stone Age The White Stripes Devin Townsend Muse The Racontuers The Black AngelsOr even older bands that are still active like: Pearl Jam The Tragically Hip Even bloody U2

I'm not just trying to be a dick, but I really wish you could see that this bad is a product, not an artistic entity. Don't listen to the crap they pump into your brain just because it's there.

You, good sir, win.

And as far as Daughtry being one of the best vocalists EVARRRR. Where did that come from? What about Brad Delp? Steven Perry? Freddie Mercury? Bruce Dickinson? Robert Plant? Roger Daltrey?

As far as modern singers go, we have Eddie Vedder, Maynard James Keenan, Jimmy Gnecco, Chris Cornell, Layne Staley, Brandon Boyd, Cedric Bixler-Zavala, and Claudio Sanchez. And that's just off the top of my head.

Now, are all of these singers more technically proficient vocally than Daughtry? No, but most definately are. And everyone of them has something Daughtry doesn't have in their music: originality. None of them hopped on an old, beaten-down, tried and true bandwagon that most people who like their music deeper than a puddle have come to despise.

Do the ones who aren't technically better sonically better? That's up for opinion, but I'd give credit to an original singer over a knock-off anyday.

Chris Daughtry is not legendary, great, or even good, he's above average and he's wasting his talent.

Wedge19
08-16-2008, 08:48 PM
However.. he is talented, and regardless of whether its original or not, his music would work in the game

gunja
08-18-2008, 01:28 PM
Sorry, I can't agree with much of this....Now I didn't watch all of American Idol but I did see that performance of I walk the line and it was superb. Daughtry also noted that the arrangement came from Live so he didn't try to"steal" it. He also changed it into a much more alternative song than what Live did. Now about his vocals, if you want to critisize him for something it can't be his vocals. He has a very rich, deep, unique sounding voice and he can sing his ass off. However you can criticize him on the musical content of his first album. Generic? Yes. pop-rock? yes. not that creative? yes. But, as I've mentioned , it was done with studio musicions and I'm intrigued to see what he does on his 2nd album with his own band .


Get your facts straight buddy. I have the footage to upload for you if you'd like to see the FOX coverage of it on the TV the next day, playing the songs side by side. They highlighted Daughtry accepting credit for it from Simon Cowell and it wasn't until all the stink was raised that week that Daughtry gave LIVE credit for it the FOLLOWING week.

So yes, he did try to steal the arrangement as his own until everybody noticed that it was a DIRECT ripoff of another bands arrangement. Also, you're sadly mistaken and warped if you think Daughtry's version was any better or any more alternative than Live's version. They were EXACTLY the same, IDENTICAL and Daughtry admitted that. The only difference being that Chad Taylor from Live is a thousand times better than the AI house guitarist and Ed Kowalcyzk from Live makes Daughtry sound like an utter amateur. As a matter of fact, I'll put up both versions here so people can see for themselves.

Daughtry is a decent singer but he's also a sellout and a thief. I don't have respect for any artist who steals a great piece of work and calls it his own.

David2380
08-18-2008, 10:16 PM
Get your facts straight buddy. I have the footage to upload for you if you'd like to see the FOX coverage of it on the TV the next day, playing the songs side by side. They highlighted Daughtry accepting credit for it from Simon Cowell and it wasn't until all the stink was raised that week that Daughtry gave LIVE credit for it the FOLLOWING week.

So yes, he did try to steal the arrangement as his own until everybody noticed that it was a DIRECT ripoff of another bands arrangement. Also, you're sadly mistaken and warped if you think Daughtry's version was any better or any more alternative than Live's version. They were EXACTLY the same, IDENTICAL and Daughtry admitted that. The only difference being that Chad Taylor from Live is a thousand times better than the AI house guitarist and Ed Kowalcyzk from Live makes Daughtry sound like an utter amateur. As a matter of fact, I'll put up both versions here so people can see for themselves.

Daughtry is a decent singer but he's also a sellout and a thief. I don't have respect for any artist who steals a great piece of work and calls it his own.

First off, I am not your "buddy" thanks but no thanks. Secondly, I am not comparing Daughtry's voice to Kowalcyzk, live is one of my favorite bands and he is an excelent singer, one of the best. I have the Live version and it IS different than Daughtry's. The live version is more even where as Daughtry's starts even and low pitched and then erupts at the end. Also I don't think he was INTENDING to "STEAL" the Live version. As a matter of fact David Cook "borrowed" Chris Cornell's version of Billy Jean in this seasons AI. He also had some minor changes to it. These guys are amatuers when they come on that show ...they don't sell they recordings and earn royalties from their performances. I wouldn't really call it Stealing, especially if they credit the initial artists work... Also, it's kinda an asinine statement to say that I am "warped" to like his version better. I do like it better and live is one of my favorite bands. Little advice...chill out with your attitude and tone on these threads...people are just stating opinions which none are "Right" and all are subjective...no need to get your cute pink panties in a bind...

gunja
08-19-2008, 12:51 AM
First off, I am not your "buddy" thanks but no thanks. Secondly, I am not comparing Daughtry's voice to Kowalcyzk, live is one of my favorite bands and he is an excelent singer, one of the best. I have the Live version and it IS different than Daughtry's. The live version is more even where as Daughtry's starts even and low pitched and then erupts at the end. Also I don't think he was INTENDING to "STEAL" the Live version. As a matter of fact David Cook "borrowed" Chris Cornell's version of Billy Jean in this seasons AI. He also had some minor changes to it. These guys are amatuers when they come on that show ...they don't sell they recordings and earn royalties from their performances. I wouldn't really call it Stealing, especially if they credit the initial artists work... Also, it's kinda an asinine statement to say that I am "warped" to like his version better. I do like it better and live is one of my favorite bands. Little advice...chill out with your attitude and tone on these threads...people are just stating opinions which none are "Right" and all are subjective...no need to get your cute pink panties in a bind...

I think you're the one wearing panties in the closet buddy. So again, get your facts straight before spouting nonsense. The link is provided below where Daughtry claims this arrangement as something "he did himself." Watch it.

As for the versions being different? Gimme a break and wake up already even. They start out singing exactly the same and the songs are exactly the same until the end when Daughtry throws in a single line that Live's version doesn't have. They're both singing in the same octave and their pitch is basically identical. I took vocal lessons for almost 10 years "buddy," I think I know the difference.

As for attitude, you should be speaking to the OP who seems to think that Daughtry is the best thing since electricity. I was contradicting his ridiculousness. Not all opinions are subjective BUDDY. Calling out a guy as a top notch singer that makes everybody else look weak isn't subjective, it's idiotic. Maybe the OP and yourself should both come together and come out of the closet and profess your love for Daughtry. Maybe you can get together and giggle like little girls over photos of him or something, while dancing around in your little pink panties of course.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=dBbx4TZ6yKU&feature=related

"As much as I respect Cash's creativity, we're going to try something a little different tonight"

Now Live's version, exactly the same except the line Chris screwed up. Same arrangement, trying to sing in the same octaves and all. Don't come back all angry just because I proved my point to you now buddy.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=9_daJjRrv0A&feature=related



Live's version, to contradict your view, is way more alternative and explosive. Keyboards and drums are more prominent and the implosion of all instruments is much more rock and alternative. Sorry Daughtry.

Gatorguy91
08-19-2008, 12:52 AM
Daughtry's Decent.

Wouldn't mind some songs, GREAT for pwarties.

My name is Fez
08-19-2008, 03:59 AM
I think you're the one wearing panties in the closet buddy. So again, get your facts straight before spouting nonsense. The link is provided below where Daughtry claims this arrangement as something "he did himself." Watch it.

As for the versions being different? Gimme a break and wake up already even. They start out singing exactly the same and the songs are exactly the same until the end when Daughtry throws in a single line that Live's version doesn't have. They're both singing in the same octave and their pitch is basically identical. I took vocal lessons for almost 10 years "buddy," I think I know the difference.

As for attitude, you should be speaking to the OP who seems to think that Daughtry is the best thing since electricity. I was contradicting his ridiculousness. Not all opinions are subjective BUDDY. Calling out a guy as a top notch singer that makes everybody else look weak isn't subjective, it's idiotic. Maybe the OP and yourself should both come together and come out of the closet and profess your love for Daughtry. Maybe you can get together and giggle like little girls over photos of him or something, while dancing around in your little pink panties of course.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=dBbx4TZ6yKU&feature=related

"As much as I respect Cash's creativity, we're going to try something a little different tonight"

Now Live's version, exactly the same except the line Chris screwed up. Same arrangement, trying to sing in the same octaves and all. Don't come back all angry just because I proved my point to you now buddy.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=9_daJjRrv0A&feature=related



Live's version, to contradict your view, is way more alternative and explosive. Keyboards and drums are more prominent and the implosion of all instruments is much more rock and alternative. Sorry Daughtry.

Dude, no offense, but Daughtry himself didn't once say "I made this arrangement." Yes, he did say "We're doing something a little different tonight." but all that's saying is basically "I'm not going to use Johnny Cash's original arrangement."

He didn't give credit for it, but didn't take credit for it. Which isn't a whole lot better, but it is better.

It's actually American Idol that pulls that bull****. Another example is David Cook's version of "Billie Jean" by Michael Jackson. He sang Chris Cornell's arrangement, and apart from a stealthy mention of Cornell from Seacrest that me and my entire family missed, the judges all praised him for his "genius arrangement" of the song, and Cook simply smiled and didn't say he did it or stole it.

It's a marketing ploy to make the Idol contestants seem more musically intelligent than they actually are.

I have a feeling that this debacle with Daughtry is what inspired them to provide a very, VERY minor mention of Cornell with Billie Jean, but even still, it's not really a sin of Daughtry's.

I mean, I still think Daughtry's lame and his band reminds me too much of Nickelback, but to say that he went forward and claimed it was his arrangement is taking it a little too far.

Landario
08-19-2008, 05:59 AM
HelloS,

think they would be a worthy addition. Definately fun to play their songs. For my taste there is already too much "pure Metal" stuff in the game, makes my head hurt :-)

Chris

David2380
08-19-2008, 07:17 AM
I think you're the one wearing panties in the closet buddy. So again, get your facts straight before spouting nonsense. The link is provided below where Daughtry claims this arrangement as something "he did himself." Watch it.

As for the versions being different? Gimme a break and wake up already even. They start out singing exactly the same and the songs are exactly the same until the end when Daughtry throws in a single line that Live's version doesn't have. They're both singing in the same octave and their pitch is basically identical. I took vocal lessons for almost 10 years "buddy," I think I know the difference.

As for attitude, you should be speaking to the OP who seems to think that Daughtry is the best thing since electricity. I was contradicting his ridiculousness. Not all opinions are subjective BUDDY. Calling out a guy as a top notch singer that makes everybody else look weak isn't subjective, it's idiotic. Maybe the OP and yourself should both come together and come out of the closet and profess your love for Daughtry. Maybe you can get together and giggle like little girls over photos of him or something, while dancing around in your little pink panties of course.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=dBbx4TZ6yKU&feature=related

"As much as I respect Cash's creativity, we're going to try something a little different tonight"

Now Live's version, exactly the same except the line Chris screwed up. Same arrangement, trying to sing in the same octaves and all. Don't come back all angry just because I proved my point to you now buddy.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=9_daJjRrv0A&feature=related



Live's version, to contradict your view, is way more alternative and explosive. Keyboards and drums are more prominent and the implosion of all instruments is much more rock and alternative. Sorry Daughtry.

I apologize...these versions are the same. I've never heard this version from LIVE . I've only heard the version from their AWAKE album which isn't as raw as this. This is a great rendition and exactly the same as Daughtry's. However I don't agree that he was trying to "steal" anything ...I think this kind of thing happens on that show all the time . I do not think Daughtry is the greatest thing that has happened to music. I DO think he has a GREAT voice with loads of potential and I know he can write because he wrote some good songs for his band Absent Element. I would like to see him get away from the pop-rock and make some harder, more original music which I think we will see for his next album which he will be recording with HIS band instead of studio musicians.

rigmedic
08-19-2008, 10:53 AM
While I could take or leave it if his music is in the game, is popular rock music not allowed in this game? I mean really not everyone really wants to have everyone's favorite "garage" band no one has ever heard of as DLC. The game is designed to have a balance of both. Like them or not but Nickelback or Daughtry (sp) would meet the criteria for Rock Band just the same way the thrash and roadrunner stuff does. Some will like both, some will hate both others will pick and choose what they like.

Why argue? If HMX wants them in the game they will be.

nicely put there

Wedge19
08-19-2008, 06:10 PM
They've put out some great DLC and they have put out some horrible DLC, and everyone has their opinions on which ones those are. HMX will continue to do so, as long as people in this wolrd have different tastes for music. So if there is even that fraction of the game's owners that want a particular band or song, HMX is obliged to consider it.

To tell truth I would download Daughtry if it were put as DLC

Highlandlassie1
08-19-2008, 06:59 PM
I think you're the one wearing panties in the closet buddy. So again, get your facts straight before spouting nonsense. The link is provided below where Daughtry claims this arrangement as something "he did himself." Watch it.

As for the versions being different? Gimme a break and wake up already even. They start out singing exactly the same and the songs are exactly the same until the end when Daughtry throws in a single line that Live's version doesn't have. They're both singing in the same octave and their pitch is basically identical. I took vocal lessons for almost 10 years "buddy," I think I know the difference.

As for attitude, you should be speaking to the OP who seems to think that Daughtry is the best thing since electricity. I was contradicting his ridiculousness. Not all opinions are subjective BUDDY. Calling out a guy as a top notch singer that makes everybody else look weak isn't subjective, it's idiotic. Maybe the OP and yourself should both come together and come out of the closet and profess your love for Daughtry. Maybe you can get together and giggle like little girls over photos of him or something, while dancing around in your little pink panties of course.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=dBbx4TZ6yKU&feature=related

"As much as I respect Cash's creativity, we're going to try something a little different tonight"

Now Live's version, exactly the same except the line Chris screwed up. Same arrangement, trying to sing in the same octaves and all. Don't come back all angry just because I proved my point to you now buddy.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=9_daJjRrv0A&feature=related



Live's version, to contradict your view, is way more alternative and explosive. Keyboards and drums are more prominent and the implosion of all instruments is much more rock and alternative. Sorry Daughtry.

You know what?

GFY

I simply stated that I think Daughtry would be good DLC, and my reasons why.

As a vocalist it would be fun and challenging to sing his music.

I dont give a crap about if he stole it, about American Idol, Myspace, or any thing else.

I saw a concert on Soundstage in HD/5.1, and it FRIGN ROCKED.

I bought the album.

I like the powerful classic rock stylings/vocal power.

Reminds me of classic rock but new, and clean.

The music would sell like crazy on Rockband. DLC is about money and it would make Harmonix plenty.

No one says you have to buy it.

I am an old guy that finds it hard to embrace new music styles, but that does not mean I can not appreciate new music that I can relate to.

I have done nothing until now to draw your wrath.

So chill out, man it is just a suggestion, that many agree with.

Highlandlassie1
08-19-2008, 07:23 PM
That's the reason why the music industry is in the state it's in.

I said post-grunge because that's what Nickleback started out as, but now if I had to pick a genre I'd say "Soul-less Jock-Rock"

What bands were those? I seriously cannot see the relation to any classic rock.

And without any of the creativity or heart or songwriting.


If you think those bands are the best music has to offer you aren't exposed to enough music. The only reason these bands sell so much is because they are the bands your Television, Radio, and Myspace are telling you to buy. If you think they are popular on talent alone who don't understand the music industry.

Even if you're looking for honest hard rocking guitar music, there's plenty out there that isn't garbage. For example: Queens of the Stone Age The White Stripes Devin Townsend Muse The Racontuers The Black AngelsOr even older bands that are still active like: Pearl Jam The Tragically Hip Even bloody U2

I'm not just trying to be a dick, but I really wish you could see that this bad is a product, not an artistic entity. Don't listen to the crap they pump into your brain just because it's there.

As good as you think these bands are, they just are not suited to my 46 year old tastes.

Do they have talent?

If you say so.

I cant listen to any of them long enough to care. Grates on my nerves like cheese grater.

From what i have heard of these bands, MY opinion is that they suck, and that includes bloody u2.

The only band you mentioned that I can stand is Pearl Jam, and Eddie V. is more interested in political stuff than making music, and that sucks.

Who do I like?

Sammy Hagar

Metallica

Rush

AC/DC

3 doors Down

Staind

Just to name a few.

In my antiquated opinion, only 10% of music made in the last ten years is worth a damn.

clfnole
08-19-2008, 07:26 PM
Honestly would Daughtry really be the worst thing that could happen to Rock Band?

My guess is we could all pick something existing that is much worse.

Highlandlassie1
08-19-2008, 07:40 PM
Honestly would Daughtry really be the worse thing that could happen to Rock Band?

My guess is we could all pick something existing that is much worse.


That is what is strange.

People suggest all kinds of obscure music for Rockband, that would not sell well.

Wasting time coding that stuff would be bad for the game.

Daughtry has the fasting SELLING album in history. And this happened NOW, not 20-40 years ago, but NOW,when music is copied more than purchased. This says a lot.

This fact tells me that people will BUY it.

THAT is what is good for Rockband.

The more they sell, insures DLC and future installments of the game for an indefinate perion of time.

Harmonix is in this for MONEY, not artistic gratification.

I, understand this, and have NO problem with it whatsoever.

Wedge19
08-19-2008, 07:43 PM
Honestly would Daughtry really be the worse thing that could happen to Rock Band?

My guess is we could all pick something existing that is much worse.

Well said man. I agree that there has been some genuine grade A quality "Sh**" that has been released. But each is entitled to their own opinion. This isn't YOR game and YOURS alone, it everyone's game, and HMX knows that. They are trying to relate to everyone and make the game and each weeks DLC fun for everyone. People need to stop taking DLC suggestions like they are threats on their life or something. We're all RB players here, lets just have fun.

With the new Challenge mode, and Battle of the bannds Challenges in RB2, it may make it worth it to get DLC that you would not have normally gotten.

JimmyRyan
08-19-2008, 08:21 PM
I'm in agreement with those saying he is generic and bland. His writing is just terrible, some of the most generic crap I've heard in a long time.

His voice has power, I won't argue that, but technically he does lack range. It may still sound good to certain people, but that doesn't make him one of the best vocalists of all time or even today. The fact that his album is allegedly (still waiting for proof of that) the fastest selling in history just goes to show how influential American Idol is on the nation's musical consciousness.

The thing that bothers me the most about Daughtry is his rock image. I am sorry, but if you go onto American Idol as a rock singer, you are about the biggest sellout the genre has ever seen. There are thousands of singers as talented or moreso than any of the participants of AI, but they don't take the easy road out by appearing on a hugely overhyped glorified cover song contest. They work their asses off and many fail in the process.

In that sense, it's no wonder Daughtry's songwriting is crap. He hasn't had to go the hard way and earn his stripes to get where he is. He doesn't have the soul to be a decent songwriter.

instantdeath999
08-19-2008, 08:25 PM
First off, I am not your "buddy" thanks but no thanks.

He's not your buddy, guy.

Sorry. Couldn't resist.

TthevoiceE
08-19-2008, 09:05 PM
I would only like "It's Not Over" and the fact on best selling debut album is false that belongs to either Guns N' Roses or Boston


he stole that song and is a manufactured artist, as bad as Nickleback.

NO thanks :)

Bowiefanperson
08-19-2008, 09:47 PM
I heavily disagree. Daughtries songs are awfull in my opinion.

Alright_Computer
08-19-2008, 10:12 PM
To whoever said DLC is about the money: It's not. It's about making sure that everyone has some DLC to fit their music tastes, and exposing people to new music. Think of it this way: Would Harmonix have released stuff like the Mother Hips, the Pixies, Cherry Bomb, and thenewno2 if it was about money? Would they have released the recent Roadrunner pack at half price if it was about money? My guess is no. If it was about money, they would release week after week of stuff like the Rolling Stones, U2, AC/DC, Guns 'n' Roses, etc. Obviously this is not the case.

I personally think that there's way too much post-grunge on the radio, and that Daughtry is a terrible (at the very lease cliched) lyricist who plays bland, completely unoriginal rock. Does that mean that it shouldn't be DLC? Well, that's not for me to decide. Just remember that DLC is optional.

Edit: Also, you'd be surprised how sales turn out. Oasis is hardly known at all in the US anymore, but Wonderwall's sold over 100,000 copies so far. Likewise, stuff similar to Daughtry, like Shinedown and Staind, is nowhere near on track to achieve that anytime soon.

Wedge19
08-20-2008, 03:10 AM
however, there are those people (me) who got and loved the Shinedown and Staind stuff. sooooooo..... ( I also own Wonderwall, but can live without all the metal we've gotten)

naf
09-16-2008, 01:37 PM
Add me to the list of those that would love some daughtry content. Would buy the full album without questions.

For the heck of it, I'll even list my top 5:

1. There and Back Again
2. What I Want
3. Feels Like Tonight
4. What About Now
5. Over You

MX312
09-18-2008, 03:23 PM
DAUGHTRY would be a great addition.

Kirk Lazarus
09-18-2008, 03:54 PM
Daughtry's debut album has sold more than any debut album in history.

This is simply, unequivocally not true. Just as an example, the debuts from Boston and GNR have each sold over 15 million copies in the US alone. I don't think Daughtry has hit 5 million yet. Hell, Hootie and the Blowfish's debut is like 16 times platinum.

And having said all that I would definitely buy a Daughtry three pack. But I just had to correct the big statistical error.

El Dudearino3
09-18-2008, 04:04 PM
Please God no Daughtry or any other lame karoke contest rejects!!

I love Rock Band, but I think adding this clown when there are so many great bands out there would sicken me enough to not play anymore.

Let's concentrate on getting great bands like My Morning Jacket or Wilco into the game rather than lame formulaic top 40 music. Daughtry is what your 45 year old minivan driving aunt listens to when she wants to "rock out." So please, Harmonix save your dignity and never add any American Idol contestant to this game.

coleslaw
09-18-2008, 04:09 PM
I can't believe there are even people on here defending Daughtry - the guy just sucks ass. Unoriginal, contrived corporate jock rock that will be forgotten in time. You pro Daughtry people are friggin morons LOL

Highlandlassie1
09-21-2008, 11:15 AM
This is simply, unequivocally not true. Just as an example, the debuts from Boston and GNR have each sold over 15 million copies in the US alone. I don't think Daughtry has hit 5 million yet. Hell, Hootie and the Blowfish's debut is like 16 times platinum.

And having said all that I would definitely buy a Daughtry three pack. But I just had to correct the big statistical error.


It is the FASTEST selling album in history, not most, heck it has only been out a year or so.

And for all you kids who hate Daughtry. GFY, you have no taste in real rock and roll, just lame, castrated, unic cole slaw crap.

If you are 46 years old you would appreciate this music, if you are under 30, STFU, I have to wade through weeks of crappy modern dlc, you can put up with one week of something older people like.

willscot55
09-21-2008, 12:17 PM
I think it would be great addition to the game

coleslaw
09-21-2008, 06:06 PM
What does being 46 have to do with anything man, Daughtry sucks no matter what age you are. You of all people should know what great music is considering you grew up during the 70s which was the BEST decade for music in the history of mankind. The fact that you can't tell that Daughtry sucks is pretty ridiculous given your age. I'm actually really curious to hear what your favorite artists are now if you seriously think Daughtry is real rock n roll.

gunja
09-21-2008, 08:19 PM
It is the FASTEST selling album in history, not most, heck it has only been out a year or so.

And for all you kids who hate Daughtry. GFY, you have no taste in real rock and roll, just lame, castrated, unic cole slaw crap.

If you are 46 years old you would appreciate this music, if you are under 30, STFU, I have to wade through weeks of crappy modern dlc, you can put up with one week of something older people like.

Wow, you're simply the epitomy of what is wrong with society today. It's sicerely sad that people like you are allowed to vote, breed or even breathe the same air as I am. Sooooo sad.

TheMeatball
09-21-2008, 08:59 PM
I already said it, but it bears repeating.

That's the reason why the music industry is in the state it's in.

If you think those bands are the best music has to offer you aren't exposed to enough music. The only reason these bands sell so much is because they are the bands your Television, Radio, and Myspace are telling you to buy. If you think they are popular on talent alone who don't understand the music industry.

Even if you're looking for honest hard rocking guitar music, there's plenty out there that isn't garbage. For example: Queens of the Stone Age The White Stripes Devin Townsend Muse The Racontuers The Black AngelsOr even older bands that are still active like: Pearl Jam The Tragically Hip Even bloody U2

I'm not just trying to be a dick, but I really wish you could see that this bad is a product, not an artistic entity. Don't listen to the crap they pump into your brain just because it's there.

Highlandlassie1
09-22-2008, 01:20 PM
I already said it, but it bears repeating.


Again, with the exception of some Pearl Jam and arguably some u2, those bands you mentioned are crap, garbage, whatever.

But just as YOUR opinion of Daughtry is crap, this is MY opinion, which is my right to have, even if you think it is wrong.

Music is subjective.

Dont buy it, dont download it.

NOTHING and NO ONE tells me what to like.

If I like it I buy it.

I like Daughtry, and as mentioned I have not seen a single episode of A. Idol.

I dont have Muse or QOTSA contaminating my setlist, let me have my "post-grunge" or whatever kids call real rock and roll these days.


This is the "style" of rock and roll that makes me happy, and has nothing to do with anyone feeding me anything, it is the style and tempo that appeals to my brain.

Who are you to tell me it is wrong?

clfnole
09-22-2008, 01:29 PM
I just find it extremely funny that people say "don't add Daughtry because it is unoriginal Top 40 material, but add "insert favorite garage band" nobody except them has ever heard of because they are original and keep it real. The game is Rock Band not Garage Band not Top 40 Band all music that is rock is fair game, heck they added Devo for good sake, do I like that, no did I buy their DLC no, and that is the end of it. But some people's reasons for not wanting a particular artist are way to self-centered. Don't like it, just don't buy it.

Highlandlassie1
09-22-2008, 01:57 PM
I just find it extremely funny that people say "don't add Daughtry because it is unoriginal Top 40 material, but add "insert favorite garage band" nobody except them has ever heard of because they are original and keep it real. The game is Rock Band not Garage Band not Top 40 Band all music that is rock is fair game, heck they added Devo for good sake, do I like that, no did I buy their DLC no, and that is the end of it. But some people's reasons for not wanting a particular artist are way to self-centered. Don't like it, just don't buy it.

Intelligence, in a sea of unreasonable stupidity.

Thanks for that, there are those who understand the purpose of this post.

El Dudearino3
09-22-2008, 02:10 PM
Clfnole, I'm assuming you are referring to my post.

I'll agree with you to a certain degree that my post was selfish, but I've been lurking on these boards for a long time and have held my tongue over bands I don't like. For the most part I vote with my wallet, refusing to buy what I consider crappy DLC (Disturbed, Crue Pack, Thrash pack etc...) but I can not sit back and say nothing when someone is asking for freaking Daughtry! It was the straw that broke the camel's back.

Everyone is entitled to their own taste in music (even if it is crap like Daughtry) but if no one voices their opinions, Harmonix may think "Hey, sounds like people want this in the game." I simply could not stomach that.

My only point in posting was to say that there are far more deserving bands that should be added before any Daughtry (Save his songs for the Dancing with the Stars game). I am certain that this is not just my own selfish opinion and that the vast majority of the players of this game would agree with me.

And even if you don't like My Morning Jacket (Which is not an obscure garage band as you put it, check out Magheeta and One Big Holiday and tell me those songs wouldn't be great to play) there are plenty of well known acts which would be awesome additions to the game.

Anyway, enough said. I'm done hating on Daughtry, my opinion is voiced and that's all I can do.

Highlandlassie1
09-22-2008, 02:22 PM
Clfnole, I'm assuming you are referring to my post.

I'll agree with you to a certain degree that my post was selfish, but I've been lurking on these boards for a long time and have held my tongue over bands I don't like. For the most part I vote with my wallet, refusing to buy what I consider crappy DLC (Disturbed, Crue Pack, Thrash pack etc...) but I can not sit back and say nothing when someone is asking for freaking Daughtry! It was the straw that broke the camel's back.

Everyone is entitled to their own taste in music (even if it is crap like Daughtry) but if no one voices their opinions, Harmonix may think "Hey, sounds like people want this in the game." I simply could not stomach that.

My only point in posting was to say that there are far more deserving bands that should be added before any Daughtry (Save his songs for the Dancing with the Stars game). I am certain that this is not just my own selfish opinion and that the vast majority of the players of this game would agree with me.

And even if you don't like My Morning Jacket (Which is not an obscure garage band as you put it, check out Magheeta and One Big Holiday and tell me those songs wouldn't be great to play) there are plenty of well known acts which would be awesome additions to the game.

Anyway, enough said. I'm done hating on Daughtry, my opinion is voiced and that's all I can do.

Another :

This band sucks, but check out this band, post.

Popular music gets that way because people like it.

Daughtry is popular, because people like it, if you don't think it is "good", it is because your taste in music is different than the cd buying majority of america.

Which is ok, but don't piss on our parade, just don't buy it should it appear some week in the future.

TheMeatball
09-22-2008, 04:35 PM
Popular music gets that way because people like it.
Credibility = 0.

You don't understand the music industry, and you have terrible taste in music.

rushfan2007
09-22-2008, 05:07 PM
I'd like to see a couple of songs from his album

tuber85
09-22-2008, 05:09 PM
To whoever said DLC is about the money: It's not. It's about making sure that everyone has some DLC to fit their music tastes, and exposing people to new music. Think of it this way: Would Harmonix have released stuff like the Mother Hips, the Pixies, Cherry Bomb, and thenewno2 if it was about money? Would they have released the recent Roadrunner pack at half price if it was about money? My guess is no. If it was about money, they would release week after week of stuff like the Rolling Stones, U2, AC/DC, Guns 'n' Roses, etc. Obviously this is not the case.

I personally think that there's way too much post-grunge on the radio, and that Daughtry is a terrible (at the very lease cliched) lyricist who plays bland, completely unoriginal rock. Does that mean that it shouldn't be DLC? Well, that's not for me to decide. Just remember that DLC is optional.

Edit: Also, you'd be surprised how sales turn out. Oasis is hardly known at all in the US anymore, but Wonderwall's sold over 100,000 copies so far. Likewise, stuff similar to Daughtry, like Shinedown and Staind, is nowhere near on track to achieve that anytime soon.

This is mostly false and garbage.

hmxhenry
09-22-2008, 05:49 PM
So I've received a few reported posts stemming from this thread. Rather than hand out bans (on both sides of the Daughtry fence, mind you) I'm closing this thread and issuing a very important reminder:

PERSONAL TASTE IS NOT FACT, AND SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT SHARE THE SAME TASTE.

I appreciate that people feel passionately about bands they like, and I've had more than my fair share of heated discussions centered around "This band vs. that band" but if people can't remain level headed and respectful of the fact that *gasp* some people may dislike music that you like then those conversations won't take place on these forums.

Personally, I don't care for Daughtry. It's just not my thing. That doesn't mean I'm going to bust into a Daughty thread and bad mouth supporters, and I would hope that people would be just as respectful if I started a thread for Black Flag. Daughtry deserves an Ultimate Set List thread as much as any other band.

Also, re:
[QUOTE=Highlandlassie1;1058005]Harmonix is in this for MONEY, not artistic gratification./QUOTE]

That's not entirely true. We're looking to cover the spread in terms of offering bands of all genres, from all decades, spanning chart topping artists and relatively unknown up and comers. We've put out plenty of fun tracks from bands who aren't well known, or super successful chart topping platinum artists. If we were just about money and releasing DLC from best selling artists I think the DLC would be much different, and much less interesting. Again, we're looking to cover the spread.