Make your own Big 4's!

[Rockbandfan23467]

Several Genres have 4 giants. Which do you believe they are?

Thrash: Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer (or Testement), and Anthrax

Grunge: Nirvana (or, if you perfer, NIRVANA), Pearl Jam, Alice In Chaines, and Soundgarden

Jam Bands: Grateful Dead, The Allman Brothers Band, Phish, and The Dave Matthews Band.

British Invasion Bands: The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Who, and The Kinks

[Quinarvy]

Hard Rock: Guns N' Roses, Aerosmith, AC/DC, Van Halen.

Rock: Led Zeppelin, The Who, Queen, Rush.

Metal: Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath, Ozzy Osbourne, Metallica.

[DarkSide247]

Progressive: Rush, King Crimson, Genesis, Yes

"Classic" Rock: The Who, The Beatles, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, The Rolling Stones

[afterstasis]

post-punk: joy division, the cure, echo & the bunnymen, sonic youth

drone: charlemagne palestine, lamonte young, phill niblock, brian eno

black metal: darkthrone, burzum, mayhem, bathory

no wave: james chance & the contortions, mars, DNA, teenage jesus & the jerks

[CheezerRox]

Grunge: Nirvana (or, if you perfer, NIRVANA)

YES!!! We're rubbing off on people!!! Just so you know, NIRVANA is the correct spelling.

Anyway...

Psychedelic Rock: The Jimi Hendrix Experience, The Doors, Cream, Blue Öyster Cult

Alternative Rock: Radiohead, Pearl Jam, R.E.M., The Smashing Pumpkins

[WhiffleBallTony]

Early metal: Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, UFO
NWOBHM: Iron Maiden, Saxon, Motorhead, Judas Priest
Doom metal: Trouble, Witchfinder General, Pentagram, Candlemass
Progressive rock: Yes, King Crimson, Genesis, Rush
Alternative: U2, Pixies, R.E.M., The Cure

[Rockbandfan23467]

Hair Metal: Motley Crue, Def Leppard, Poison, Guns N Roses/Bon Jovi

[afterstasis]

Hair Metal: Motley Crue, Bon Jovi, Def Leppard, Poison

actually, most hair metal fans don't consider def leppard a part of the genre.

[Elegy]

Punk

The Ramones, The Clash, The Sex Pistols...uhhhhh Iggy Pop?

[NX013]

Britpop - blur, oasis, stone roses, smiths

[Rockbandfan23467]

Britpop - blur, oasis, stone roses, smiths

Those last two predate Britpop, but some other lists did that too. Motorhead isn't NWOBH, for example.

[Runesmith]

Goth Rock: Sisters of Mercy, Bauhaus, Siouxsie & The Banshees, The Cure

Power-pop: Cheap Trick, Matthew Sweet, Big Star, The Smithereens

Garage: Velvet Underground, Television, MC5, New York Dolls

Glam: T. Rex, David Bowie, Roxy Music, Elton John

New Wave: The Cars, Duran Duran, Blondie, INXS

Industrial: Nine Inch Nails, Throbbing Gristle, Einstürzende Neubauten, Ministry

Ska (non-reggae/dub): Rancid/Operation Ivy, The English Beat, Fishbone, The Specials

[WhiffleBallTony]

Those last two predate Britpop, but some other lists did that too. Motorhead isn't NWOBH, for example.

Motorhead is often associated with the NWOBHM movement. If you're going to say Motorhead was around too early, then you have to remove Judas Priest, too.

[a21schizoidman]

Progressive Rock: King Crimson, Genesis, Yes, ELP
Canterbury Scene: (the actual big 5) Soft Machine, Caravan, Gong, Hatfield and the North, National Health
Jam Bands: Grateful Dead, Rare Earth, Phish, Allman Brothers Band
Southern Rock: Molly Hatchet, Outlaws, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Marshall Tucker Band
British Invasion: The Beatles, The Who, The Rolling Stones, The Kinks
Italian Progressive Rock:Le Orme, Premiata Forneria Marconi, Area, Banco del Mutuo Soccorso
Krautrock (Big 5): Tangerine Dream, Kraftwerk, Nektar, Faust, Can
Progressive Metal: Dream Theater, Opeth, Symphony X, Fates Warning
Neo-Prog: IQ, Marillion, Arena, The Enid
Psychadelic Rock: Jimi Hendrix, Jefferson Airplane, The Doors, Iron Butterfly
Duos: Seals & Crofts, Simon & Garfunkel, Hall & Oates, Loggins & Mussina

[NX013]

^Hey schizoid, Ive been listening to some Marillion and was just wondering. What exactly is Neo Prog?

[a21schizoidman]

^Hey schizoid, Ive been listening to some Marillion and was just wondering. What exactly is Neo Prog?


Neo-progressive rock (or often shortened to neo-prog, not to be confused with the significantly more modern New prog) is a sub-genre of progressive rock, developed and popular in the 1980s, although it lives on today.

Neo-progressive rock is characterized by deeply emotional content, often delivered via dramatic lyrics and a generous use of imagery and theatricality on-stage. The music is mostly the product of careful composition, relying less heavily on improvised jamming. The subgenre relies very much on clean, melodic & emotional electric guitar solos, combined with modern, lush, floating and atmospheric keyboards. The main musical influences on the neo-prog genre are Genesis, Yes, Camel, Toto and Pink Floyd [1].

Early neo-prog was marked by sophisticated lyrics and often dark themes. While the accessibility of neo-prog by the mainstream is debatable, the form did generally seem more radio-friendly, with shorter tracks, than earlier progressive rock.

short version - prog rock without the long, long, long songs, and generally later prog (late 70s, 80s)

[tommysparxxx]

PUNK The Ramones, The Clash, The Sex Pistols, Blondie (or the Buzzcocks)

psychadelic The Animals, The Zombies, The Mamas and The Papas, and idk who would be the 4th lol, alot of ppl jimmi hendrix so i guess that fits, even tho i consider him more funk to my personal taste, but i don't wanna start a genre war

[madcow36]

not a big fan but


Southern Rock: Creedence Cleerwater Revival, Lynyrd Skynyrd, The Allman Brothers, Charlie Daniels / The Charlie Daniels Band (one sub. for .38 Special)

[next jimmy page]

Southern Rock- Lynyrd Skynyrd, Allman Brothers, Molly Hatchet, .38 Special

[schmeankman]

Southern Rock- Lynyrd Skynyrd, Allman Brothers, Molly Hatchet, .38 Special
What about Creedence?

[TheCrimsonSaint]

Big four of metal:

Iron Maiden
Metallica
Judas Priest
Black Sabbath

[a21schizoidman]

What about Creedence?

ahem:



Southern Rock: Molly Hatchet, Outlaws, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Marshall Tucker Band


yeah

[schmeankman]

ahem:



yeah
But doesn't Creedence outsell the Outlaws, Hatchey, and TMTB? Aren't they more popular? Isn't that pretty much the criteria?

[Quinarvy]

Creedance isn't even Southern Rock...

...heck, the location (not important, but still) where they were formed was California.

[Rockbandfan23467]

Creedance isn't even Southern Rock...

...heck, the location (not important, but still) where they were formed was California.

Reginal identity has nothing to do with genres. Unless it's folk music.

[a21schizoidman]

But doesn't Creedence outsell the Outlaws, Hatchey, and TMTB? Aren't they more popular? Isn't that pretty much the criteria?

CCR isnt southern rock, they are rockabilly (aka the roots of rock sound) [hell CCR doesnt even have a southern rock sound) and the Outlaws are Lynyrd Skynyrd's brother basically (since it was them who kept opening for skynyrd and skynyrd got them signed)

[tomervo79]

Big 4 Baroque Composers:
Bach, Vivaldi, Pachelbel, Handel



....wait....what?:D

[Rockbandfan23467]

CCR isnt southern rock, they are rockabilly (aka the roots of rock sound) [hell CCR doesnt even have a southern rock sound) and the Outlaws are Lynyrd Skynyrd's brother basically (since it was them who kept opening for skynyrd and skynyrd got them signed)

No, they aren't Rockabilly, they are Swamp Rock (Yes it's a real Genre.)

[Onslaught_fei]

The founding fathers of melodic death metal:

At The Gates
Dark Tranquillity
In Flames
Carcass

[a21schizoidman]

No, they aren't Rockabilly, they are Swamp Rock (Yes it's a real Genre.)

they are ALSO swamp rock, yes, I know its a real genre, but they are rockabilly, dumbass


A young band from San Francisco, Creedence Clearwater Revival, became one of the best-selling rock groups of the era playing old rockabilly songs and new songs written in the same style.

[Rev0lver]

big 4 of tech death:

Atheist
Cynic
Necrophagist
Cryptopsy

[TheCrimsonSaint]

big 4 of tech death:

Atheist
Cynic
Necrophagist
Cryptopsy

Tech Death? Good Lord, you know that there are too many sub-genres of metal when you don't even have metal in the name anymore.

[InB4Lock]

Umm....
Crap:
Miley Cyrus/Hannah Montana
Jonas Brothers
Nickelback
Cheetah Girls

[Rev0lver]

Tech Death? Good Lord, you know that there are too many sub-genres of metal when you don't even have metal in the name anymore.

it's short for "technical death metal". it's just easier to say "tech death".

and for the above post, i think you should switch out the cheetah girls with nickelback and i agree :)

[TheCrimsonSaint]

it's short for "technical death metal". it's just easier to say "tech death".

and for the above post, i think you should switch out the cheetah girls with nickelback and i agree :)

The point still stands though. What exactly makes Tech Death different from Death?

[Onslaught_fei]

The point still stands though. What exactly makes Tech Death different from Death?

Besides the fact that they sound completely different? There is influence from everything from progressive rock guitar styles to jazz fusion drumming to classical music.

[Rev0lver]

because tech death is focused mainly around complex guitar/drum work, as opposed to the other subgenres such as melodic death metal.

[TheCrimsonSaint]

Besides the fact that they sound completely different? There is influence from everything from progressive rock guitar styles to jazz fusion drumming to classical music.

I'm not a metal aficionado by any stretch of the term (outside of the more mainstream acts such as Metallica, Megadeth, etc) so things about these Death metal sub-genres aren't quite so obvious to me.

[Onslaught_fei]

I'm not a metal aficionado by any stretch of the term (outside of the more mainstream acts such as Metallica, Megadeth, etc) so things about these Death metal sub-genres aren't quite so obvious to me.

The vast majority of casual music listeners lump all genres by vocal style (rap, rock, country, whatever), unfortunately. There are other "voices" in a song including the guitars, drums, the bass, focus on melody, focus on rhythm (groove), addition of keyboards, etc...

Sub-genres are stupidly intricate sometimes so I understand where its like "lolwut". But I use them as a guide for me to find more bands I like.

[TheCrimsonSaint]

The vast majority of casual music listeners lump all genres by vocal style (rap, rock, country, whatever), unfortunately. There are other "voices" in a song including the guitars, drums, the bass, focus on melody, focus on rhythm (groove), addition of keyboards, etc...

Sub-genres are stupidly intricate sometimes so I understand where its like "lolwut". But I use them as a guide for me to find more bands I like.

I dunno if I'd lump myself in with the casual listeners, but I do find myself dividing genres based on vocals. But yeah, a lot of times when I talk to my metalhead buddies I do end up in an "lolwut" about 90% of the time.

[Onslaught_fei]

I dunno if I'd lump myself in with the casual listeners, but I do find myself dividing genres based on vocals. But yeah, a lot of times when I talk to my metalhead buddies I do end up in an "lolwut" about 90% of the time.

Tech death is also one of those things that only older doods listen to unless you are young and are really into playing real instruments. It mostly came from the early 90's and naturally received no mainstream support.

Even some of my most metal teenage buds who are kind of on the bridge between mainstream metal (Disturbed, Slipknot, In Flames, KSE, etc) and getting into the good meat of metal (Opeth, Death, Carcass, Necrophagist) are barely starting to learn about tech death attitude and style.

[Rev0lver]

hahaha, dude i'm going into junior year of high school this month and i've been into tech death since 9th grade started.

[afterstasis]

i was actually thinking most of the younger people getting into metal these days seem to go straight for tech-death and/or deathcore after getting tired of nu-metal and/or classic metal.

[Onslaught_fei]

hahaha, dude i'm going into junior year of high school this month and i've been into tech death since 9th grade started.

And how many people at your school or in your local music scene are similiar?

I think most young metalheads hit the nu-metal, metalcore, and classic metal first. Some get into the 80's thrash, death, and maybe even black metal but I think we are talking about less than 5% of the teenage metal listening base. But this is just my area, every area is different I suppose.

[Rev0lver]

You're right about that. There are only two other people I know of in my school who are into real death metal, and i think one of them graduated last year. Everybody else is "IM HAWDKORE CUZ I LISTEN TO TEH KORNZ AND SLIPKNOT AND DISTURBEDDDDDD".

[Quinarvy]

You're right about that. There are only two other people I know of in my school who are into real death metal, and i think one of them graduated last year. Everybody else is "IM HAWDKORE CUZ I LISTEN TO TEH KORNZ AND SLIPKNOT AND DISTURBEDDDDDD".

People in my school are either that or...

"i'z the shiznit cause I listens to Snoop and Soulja Boy and DJ Kahled"

or

"This (insert Christian Rock Band/Generic Pop Band) is amazingly BA (Bad ass, now really, thats just lame, actually say it fools), they are sooo amazing!!"

Then theres like, 10 of us with taste. Mine being the most diverse

[BhindBluEyes430]

The Big 4 of Greatest of all time (In order :D)
The Who, Led Zeppelin, Rush ,the Beatles

[Rev0lver]

oh my god, i can't stand the christian rock crowd in my school. the rap/hip-hop crowd i just try to ignore altogether.

i've been trying to get my friends into heavier stuff. i got one into Between The Buried And Me. not death metal, but close and certainly a great band. i brought another friend to the Dimmu Borgir/Behemoth show here a few months ago. he wasn't extremely into it, but he enjoyed it. i wish i could just carry around some speakers and blast some necrophagist every day.

[Rockbandfan23467]

The Big 4 of Greatest of all time (In order :D)
The Who, Led Zeppelin, Rush ,the Beatles

Don't you hate all of those except The Who? And aren't you a huge fan of The Clash too?

[afterstasis]

free jazz: derek bailey, sun ra, john coltrane, peter brotzmann

crust-punk: amebix, doom, antisect, extreme noise terror

shoegaze/dream-pop: my bloody valentine, slowdive, ride, lush

[Jixzer]

4

That was easy...

Honestly, with all the smartasses on these boards, I'm surprised nobody else has done this yet. :)

Sorry to derail...please continue.