so, when are we going to see some metal?

[Rev0lver]

not more this alternative/nu-metal crap. devildriver and at the gates are the only bands we've had that are death metal or close to death metal. who else is with me on petitioning for some necrophagist, arsis, cynic, opeth, dark tranquility, etc?

[mystral]

i would love to see more heavier metal music added to this game by far. just downloaded the devildriver song clouds over california and all it did was leave me wanting more of the heavy stuff (even moreso now since i play bass :D)

would also love to add in some slipknot (like psychosocial for example) as we as more old school Metallica songs, on top of this more music for RB2 from AC/DC, ZZTop, Motley Crew (like wheres Dr Feelgood lol) and such. we need more metal and less on the majority of what seems to be coming out lately.

no matter what tho im hoping more and more bands are coming to harmonix to get into these games. this company seems to be revitalizing the music industry which had been sagging a lot lately with all the FTP sites and file sharing.

so please keep the music coming and please get more heavy music for us metal fanatics out here :D

[Rev0lver]

you realize i put slipknot and korn in there as a joke. i hoped most people would get that.

[instantdeath999]

We've had metal the past month! Buckcherry, Staind, Scars on Broadway, Sixx. AM, and thenewno2 are about as metal as you get!

Sarcasm off.

[ThrobingCane]

Yea SLIPKNOT WOOT!!!!! LOL

Yeah some good death metal is needed, Im all for the bands you listed.

[KillDroneo]

There's plenty of other music out there other than bleeding fingers and broken ankles death metal. I don't know about you guys but I don't really enjoy playing a song where I have to actually stop playing when it's over.

[instantdeath999]

There's plenty of other music out there other than bleeding fingers and broken ankles death metal. I don't know about you guys but I don't really enjoy playing a song where I have to actually stop playing when it's over.

Of course there is other music than death metal.

The difference is death metal isn't in the game.

[ThrobingCane]

Of course there is other music than death metal.

The difference is death metal isn't in the game.

Well put.

Most other main genres are in the game except this.

[KillDroneo]

Of course there is other music than death metal.

The difference is death metal isn't in the game.

So instead of having already near impossible FC'able songs in Rock Band you want ones that would be EVEN more impossible?

[kanedbeans12]

not more this alternative/nu-metal crap. devildriver and at the gates are the only bands we've had that are death metal or close to death metal. who else is with me on petitioning for some necrophagist, arsis, cynic, opeth, dark tranquility, etc?

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ThrobingCane]

So instead of having already near impossible FC'able songs in Rock Band you want ones that would be EVEN more impossible?

YES to seperate the men from babies;)

[instantdeath999]

So instead of having already near impossible FC'able songs in Rock Band you want ones that would be EVEN more impossible?

DLC is a choice, so it's not like you have to crowd up your setlist with unbeatable songs.

I probably wouldn't be able to beat the drums, though I've passed every song on guitar, so the average Death Metal song wouldn't change that.

It would be a change of pace.

[KillDroneo]

DLC is a choice, so it's not like you have to crowd up your setlist with unbeatable songs.

I probably wouldn't be able to beat the drums, though I've passed every song on guitar, so the average Death Metal song wouldn't change that.

It would be a change of pace.

You practically pinpointed my argument. Why would people spend money on DLC that they wouldn't be able to beat or do well on? The purpose of Harmonix making DLC is to satisfy a large number of people. And because that number is considerably smaller when you look at the elite players that would be able to do well on death metal songs, then narrow it down to people who actually like death metal it becomes a losing investment.

At least that's how I see it...

[ThrobingCane]

You practically pinpointed my argument. Why would people spend money on DLC that they wouldn't be able to beat or do well on? The purpose of Harmonix making DLC is to satisfy a large number of people. And because that number is considerably smaller when you look at the elite players that would be able to do well on death metal songs, then narrow it down to people who actually like death metal it becomes a losing investment.

At least that's how I see it...

Lots of peaple have been satisfied except the death metal fans

You would spend money on it because you enjoy the band and would welcome a challenge

[Rev0lver]

i can only barely 4-star Clouds Over California on guitar, and wouldn't even try expert on drums, but i buy the song because i enjoy the song and think it would be fun to play it. most people play RB for fun rather than for rankings.

edit: i can't believe the slipknot option already has 4 votes. i didn't think anyone would take it seriously.

[instantdeath999]

You practically pinpointed my argument. Why would people spend money on DLC that they wouldn't be able to beat or do well on? The purpose of Harmonix making DLC is to satisfy a large number of people. And because that number is considerably smaller when you look at the elite players that would be able to do well on death metal songs, then narrow it down to people who actually like death metal it becomes a losing investment.

At least that's how I see it...

You are using yourself to represent the majority. It probably wouldn't be a huge success, but RB should appeal to the more niche audiences as well.

Also, I disagree that all the DLC should appeal to the majority. The on-disc songs should appeal to a wide audience. The DLC is optional, so there should be content that will only appeal to the few that would willingly download it.

[KillDroneo]

Lots of peaple have been satisfied except the death metal fans

You would spend money on it because you enjoy the band and would welcome a challenge

Maybe that's because so few death metal fans actually play Rock Band...


i can only barely 4-star Clouds Over California on guitar, and wouldn't even try expert on drums, but i buy the song because i enjoy the song and think it would be fun to play it. most people play RB for fun rather than for rankings.

edit: i can't believe the slipknot option already has 4 votes. i didn't think anyone would take it seriously.

Believe me, I'm an Expert drummer who only has about 25 Gold Stars but I still buy all the DLC because I want new stuff to play. But, I'm trying to say that how many people will spend money on songs that they not only don't like but can't beat?


EDIT: Sorry guys but this debate is over, gotta go.... maybe some other time though. ;)

[instantdeath999]

Dan Teasdale has actually made a point that they consider DLC a way to get popular songs out that didn't make it to the disc... but also to either expose people to new music, and to put stuff on they "couldn't justify for the disc", such as Thrasher, Snow, and Jimmy Buffet.

[ThrobingCane]

Maybe that's because so few death metal fans actually play Rock Band...





Theres quite a few on here


Just stop flamming the people that want this music;)

[Tenfrente]

Other music fans haven't been satisfied. Don't make it sound as if you're the only ones who want something.

[ftmsanchez]

After hard rock month how about a big "no" to this post in general for a few weeks.

Also I get you're trying to be funny, but how about removing the snide remarks from people who truly believe there's too much metal in the game or people who actually like radio-friendly metal?

[Rev0lver]

well, i think people who like radio-friendly metal are dumbasses in general, as well as people who believe there's too much metal.

so, after "hard rock" for a month, we should have no "metal"?? i'm not sure if you've ever listened to them, but there's a huge difference between Motely Crue and Necrophagist.

[instantdeath999]

After hard rock month how about a big "no" to this post in general for a few weeks.

Also I get you're trying to be funny, but how about removing the snide remarks from people who truly believe there's too much metal in the game or people who actually like radio-friendly metal?

I do agree about the the Korn/Slipknot thing.

However, hard rock is not the same thing as metal. Not even close.

[ftmsanchez]

I do agree about the the Korn/Slipknot thing.

However, hard rock is not the same thing as metal. Not even close.

Metal is just even harder rock.

Regardless, I think other depths of the rock world beyond the "hard" style need to be explored a bit.

[ftmsanchez]

well, i think people who like radio-friendly metal are dumbasses in general, as well as people who believe there's too much metal.

so, after "hard rock" for a month, we should have no "metal"?? i'm not sure if you've ever listened to them, but there's a huge difference between Motely Crue and Necrophagist.

Biggest reason why I don't like metalheads is their holier than thou mentality and how they refuse to acknowledge anyone else's musical tastes unless they like the most unholy black metal possible.

[Bowiefanperson]

breaking news guys. there is a difference between metal and death metal. so don't go around saying there's no REAL METAL in this game.

[Rev0lver]

i'm actually not too into black metal. only Melechesh and Dimmu Borgir(in small doses).

the biggest reason i dislike radio-friendly metal fans is their refusal to actually listen to and appreciate underground metal.

seriously, go listen to some necrophagist and motley crue. they are NOTHING ALIKE. hard rock and death metal are MUCH different.

[instantdeath999]

Metal is just even harder rock.

Regardless, I think other depths of the rock world beyond the "hard" style need to be explored a bit.

Not necessarily. Metal is played in a completely different way.

Most modern hard rock, particularly the songs we got this month, are very fond of power chords. Metal doesn't use them as much, are more varied, have faster drums, harsher vocals, faster drums, and are much more distorted.

Sure, you can call it "even harder rock", but that's a severe understatement.

However, there is more to music than metal, I agree with that. I'd be fine with 60's or 70's rock, progressive rock (my most wanted, though progressive metal works too), psychedelic, and maybe even some blues.

Also, I don't consider myself a metalhead. Just a fan of metal, among other things.

[vandalizemenow00]

Nu metal, old metal, speed metal, death metal are all the same to me. I want very little of it and I think we have enough for now. Devo is metal right?

[Rev0lver]

oh yes don't get me wrong i would love to see some Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, or some 90's like Pearl Jam, but this game is severely lacking in the death metal department. by lacking, i mean we have 2 songs(one debatable) in all of DLC and the disc.

and LOL at the above post.

[afterstasis]

i don't want to sound condescending or anything, but i think these threads will end up being at least 10 times more productive and interesting to take part in if we stop calling what i believe the OP is looking for "real metal" and start referring to it as "extreme metal"...

that way we can hopefully avoid arguing over the genres, the ceaseless bashing of bands, and general confusion/stress... a simple change in language could maybe help us all get through a metal thread without the aforementioned tomfoolery and maybe get some people talking about things we would like to see in the game instead.

i personally agree that we need to go further into both extremes... i'd like to see a little more extreme metal, but i'd also like to see more pop and soft rock make it into the game. i also think modern hard rock had a lot of love shown over the past month so i'd like to see it continue to take a break over the next several weeks.

[Rev0lver]

yes, i never said metallica DLC we had isn't "real metal". all i'm trying to do in this thread is trying to point out the lack of extreme metal genres.

[ThrobingCane]

i don't want to sound condescending or anything, but i think these threads will end up being at least 10 times more productive and interesting to take part in if we stop calling what i believe the OP is looking for "real metal" and start referring to it as "extreme metal"...



Yes!!

This thread has turned into a flame fest against genres

[Julio_Strikes_Back]

You ***** at a21 for making a biased poll, yet you make one yourself? Classic.

We have New Wave of British Heavy Metal dlc (Iron Maiden, Judas Priest), thrash (Metallica, Megadeth, Thrash pack), progressive (Dream Theater) and nu-metal (Disturbed) and psuedo-hair metal (Motley Crue).

TOO MUCH METAL. Extreme metal will not sell well.

[Rev0lver]

i didn't know a "no, i'd prefer other music" option was considered biased...

considering the huge amount of metal out there and how much fun it would be in a game like rock band(as opposed to alot of what has been put out), no there isn't enough metal at all. they could at least satisfy the extreme-metal fans.

[Julio_Strikes_Back]

i didn't know a "no, i'd prefer other music" option was considered biased...

So calling people who think there's too much metal "dumbasses" isn't biased?

Wait, it isn't. It makes you an ass.

This isn't iTunes. They can't satisfy everybody. Wait your turn.

[Rev0lver]

So calling people who think there's too much metal "dumbasses" isn't biased?


No, it's just being honest.

[Julio_Strikes_Back]

No, it's just being honest.

metal =/= extreme metal

Yeah, there's not much extreme or death metal in the game. But extreme and death are not the only types of metal, you moron. Saying there's too little metal for DLC is stupid.

[Rev0lver]

did you read my post before that or did you just read the one line you quoted?

[Julio_Strikes_Back]

Yes, I did. That specific option isn't biased, but your poll is.

[Rev0lver]

so you completely missed the part where i expained how there isn't enough metal at all.

[mystral]

Yet you flame someone that actually would like to see metal groups such as slipknot or older hard rock bands like motley crew/ AC/DC/ ZZ-Top and so on and so forth since you don't like that type of music?

So how do you expect to rationalize your argument when all you do is tell people that they are idiots because they don't agree with you.

Yes some extreme metal would be good in small doses but more of what is currently available is what needs to be expanded too... like more groups in those genres (and I'm talking about ALL of them) as this game is played by ALL ages of people so the Dev's need to cater to everyone here. All i did was state which bands i would like to see more of and despite you putting slipknot and korn in as jokes... some people DO like them but they are considered idiots to you, ya, real productive arguing your case with immature comebacks like you've done. let people speak their piece and maybe you'll find that some suggestions would be suitable for everyone...

apart from slipknot and korn i think other groups ive mentioned would be some good additions, not sure what you think about those ones but maybe comment about it... and yes i know necrophagist and motley crew are VERY different but all that being said im sure more people would buy the Crew songs over necrophagist ones TBH

[TakeABow]

The indie-alternative crowd has been waiting a long time too. Sadly, I have a feeling that Harmonix feels they have/are appealing to everyone.

[Gyo]

this is it, the dumbest thread

and metal fans wonder why people target them so often.

[BhindBluEyes430]

you do realise since the Who came out its been like non stop metal weeks

[Rev0lver]

there's a reason i don't like korn or slipknot, because they are terrible musicians who are praised for no reason rather than they appeal to rebellious teenage kids who think they're dark and br00tal.

seriously, name a korn or slipknot song, i will show you why it is a piece of ****. it's not as much of an opinion as you may think. and i never said anything about older metal. i love deep purple and black sabbath, and a couple songs from MC.

[Rev0lver]

you do realise since the Who came out its been like non stop metal weeks

oh my god, don't make me explain this again...

wait... what is that noise?.....

OH MY GOD IT'S SHINEDOWN! THEY'RE SO DARK AND HEAVY!!!! MY EARS ARE BLEEDING! I MUST SHIELD IT WITH MY BIBLE! this is so ****ING METAL

[Tender-Surrender]

There are 3 Death Metal songs for DLC, and there are also 2 on disc for RB2, sure it may be lacking, but Death Metal is a Sub Genre of metal, I think we have enough metal for now.

Sure, I would love some Opeth, the only Death Metal band I like, but I think we need a break on the metal.

Metal songs in past 4 weeks:

"Electric Crown"
"Toxicity"
"BYOB"
"Aesthetics of Hate"
"Sleepwalker"
"Constant Motion"
"Clouds Over California"
"My Curse"

Heck, for all we know, the album next week may be Metal :P

[ThrobingCane]

Heck, for all we know, the album next week may be Metal :P

Opeth maybe?

Im sure the majority of the Death metal fans would be happy if this would happen

Also im trying to think of the extreme metal songs on RB2 just Abnormality i think

[Rev0lver]

there's 3 death metal songs? i could only think of 2. and there are none from what i see on the RB2 disc. last week was the only week of metal they've had for a while. SOAD is borderline metal, and the rest was hard rock.

[Tender-Surrender]

there's 3 death metal songs? i could only think of 2.

"Blinded by Fear"
"D.O.A."
"Clouds Over California"

Needs more Prog Metal. Opeth would fill that up and give you some Death Metal with it.

[Ele64]

An album pack would be great.

Suicide Silence - The Cleansing

Amazing band. Death Metal/Black Metal.

[ThrobingCane]

there's 3 death metal songs? i could only think of 2.

I can only think of one thats in RB2

[Tender-Surrender]

I can only think of one thats in RB2

"Visions"
"Shoulder the Plow" though it may be closer to metalcore.. I will have to re-listen.

Edit: Yeah, that is closer to metalcore, but the general public would consider it Death Metal :P

[BhindBluEyes430]

there's 3 death metal songs? i could only think of 2.

don't forget you also have that **** Thrash Metal too

I dont care your asking for METAL thats a broad term.

and metal heads are so indecisive about what metal they like

Alright whats the difference between Thrash and Death metal? huh? dont say lyrics because you can hear the lyrics anyway

your asking for metal we have metal lets get some good music in the game rock band needs more punk and alternative

[Tender-Surrender]

don't forget you also have that **** Thrash Metal too

I dont care your asking for METAL thats a broad term.

and metal heads are so indecisive about what metal they like

Alright whats the difference between Thrash and Death metal? huh? dont say lyrics because you can hear the lyrics anyway

your asking for metal we have metal lets get some good music in the game rock band needs more punk and alternative

There is a huge Difference between Death Metal and Thrash Metal. Metallica is(edit: was) Thrash, Cannibal Corpse is Death Metal, sound nothing alike.

[Rev0lver]

DOA didn't really come across as really death metal for me, but i guess you could count it. and Suicide Silence is deathcore. not death metal, and FAR from black metal.

edit: i wasn't paying attention to the RB2 bonus songs. i definitely wouldn't call the breaking wheel song death metal, but Visions is. it is beyond me why they would pick that though. out of all the death metal possibilities, not only is it a completely unknown band, but the song sucked.

[ThrobingCane]

"Shoulder the Plow" though it may be closer to metalcore.. I will have to re-listen.

Edit: Yeah, that is closer to metalcore, but the general public would consider it Death Metal :P

Never herd it... so i dont know

EDIT- never really noticed there are some decent metal tunes in RB2 Megadeth testament

[Tender-Surrender]

Shoulder to the Plow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-mFU1uGVTk


DOA didn't really come across as really death metal for me, but i guess you could count it. and Suicide Silence is deathcore. not death metal, and FAR from black metal.

Melodic Death Metal. I mean the guy is pretty much growling the lyrics, though admittedly out of the 3 Death Metal tracks, it is closer to Thrash, but it is still Death Metal.

[akauDOUBLEu2349]

there's too much metal. because i am a dumbass and don't know genres.

^your silly tehe the whole poll is a joke...right

right?

EDIT: that is what I voted for because I am a dumbass and thank you for pointing that out for me. I'm glad, now I can live in shame...excuse me I have to listen to my moronic self think it's just so annoying!

[instantdeath999]

metal =/= extreme metal

Yeah, there's not much extreme or death metal in the game. But extreme and death are not the only types of metal, you moron. Saying there's too little metal for DLC is stupid.

Honestly, while I am probably wrong, I originally thought the TC was responding to the "too much metal this month" attitude, when the majority hasn't been metal.

I agree that metal =/= extreme metal. I NWOBM bands the most literal definition of "metal".

However, there is a lack of extreme metal. I am not saying it should be equally represented, because extreme metal fans are much more rare. I do think it's a valid request, however.

Of course, I have priorities before extreme metal. Honestly, I don't care what comes each week. I've been able to find something good about almost every week.

I still stand by what I said though... the majority of the songs this month have not been metal. Hard rock is definitely different.

As for the biased poll... I do agree the Korn and Slipknot bashing is very old.


you do realise since the Who came out its been like non stop metal weeks

That's what I'm talking about. Modern hard rock is very different.


The indie-alternative crowd has been waiting a long time too. Sadly, I have a feeling that Harmonix feels they have/are appealing to everyone.

That is true. I'd say alternative would come way before extreme metal. I'm hoping the alternative album in the works is great (Ok Computer or Black Holes and Revelations would do quite nicely).


oh my god, don't make me explain this again...

wait... what is that noise?.....

OH MY GOD IT'S SHINEDOWN! THEY'RE SO DARK AND HEAVY!!!! MY EARS ARE BLEEDING! I MUST SHIELD IT WITH MY BIBLE! this is so ****ING METAL

Pro-tip. Don't insult another band, no matter how you feel about them, while trying to defend another. Rarely ever works.

[BhindBluEyes430]

There is a huge Difference between Death Metal and Thrash Metal. Metallica is(edit: was) Thrash, Cannibal Corpse is Death Metal, sound nothing alike.

why cant there be one genre for the really Extream stuff.

Yea you can say Metalica and Cannibal Corpse don't sound the same
because Different Bands Sound different!

Dose every band have to have a Genre for itself

For Example The Ramones And The Clash are both called punk but play completely different styles

someone explain it to me in a logical sense

[Tender-Surrender]

There is a lack of lots of stuff in this game, so why not take the metal we get for now and hope for some Extreme Metal sometime in the Future. I am still waiting for some Blues or Funk!

[akauDOUBLEu2349]

There is a lack of lots of stuff in this game, so why not take the metal we get for now and hope for some Extreme Metal sometime in the Future. I am still waiting for some Blues or Funk!

Patiently waiting for some Gorillazzzzzzzzzzz and LCD Soundsystem...I like what we have now

[instantdeath999]

why cant there be one genre for the really Extream stuff.

Yea you can say Metalica and Cannibal Corpse don't sound the same
because Different Bands Sound different!

Dose every band have to have a Genre for itself

For Example The Ramones And The Clash are both called punk but play completely different styles

someone explain it to me in a logical sense

That's very true. Metal has just always been like that. Thrash metal, death metal, New Wave of British Metal... they are all metal, but play different styles of music.

I like your Clash and Ramones example, though. I think it's because most "metalheads" love to disagree with each other...

[Rev0lver]

why cant there be one genre for the really Extream stuff.

Yea you can say Metalica and Cannibal Corpse don't sound the same
because Different Bands Sound different!


but theyre not even in the same genre. the clash and the ramones are MUCH more similar than if you compare Metallica and a death metal band like Cannibal Corpse or Behemoth.

[Tender-Surrender]

why cant there be one genre for the really Extream stuff.

Yea you can say Metalica and Cannibal Corpse don't sound the same
because Different Bands Sound different!

Dose every band have to have a Genre for itself

For Example The Ramones And The Clash are both called punk but play completely different styles

someone explain it to me in a logical sense

I meant their styles are totally different. Megadeth, Metallica, Motorhead, Slayer, Machine Head, Sepultura, Suicidal Tendencies, Pantera, etc have a similar sound. Sure it is heavy, but compared to Extreme Metal, it is pretty tame for the most part.

I don't know many Death Metal bands, but from what I have heard, which is enough, Death Metal is much more aggressive and harsh. There is a different. To me there are only so many real Genres of metal. Speed/Thrash, Power/Prog, Black/Death. That is really all there is to it.

[instantdeath999]

"Blinded by Fear"
"D.O.A."
"Clouds Over California"

Needs more Prog Metal. Opeth would fill that up and give you some Death Metal with it.

DevilDriver is usually considered groove metal.

Yes, the genre thing is really annoying... I'm just used to it.

[Tender-Surrender]

DevilDriver is usually considered groove metal.

Yes, the genre thing is really annoying... I'm just used to it.

That may be so, but Clouds Over California is Death Metal. If you look them up in the Music Database, they are Thrash, Death/Black and Speed Metal.

Also, let us go by Real Genres, not these stupid Sub-sub Genres. Groove Metal is just Thrash Metal...

[ThrobingCane]

Shoulder to the Plow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-mFU1uGVTk





OK that wasnt my cup of tea but I can definetly see that the general listener might say it was death metal, but i think it was metalcore as well

[ThrobingCane]

I lol'd and am still smiling thanks to the options in the poll, all great! Who rated this thread 1 star? I rated 5, halp?

The people flameing metal earlier in the thread rated it a one star.

[instantdeath999]

The people flameing metal earlier in the thread rated it a one star.

Well, the way the question was asked could have been a bit offensive to some people... never a good idea to suggest a genre while insulting another.

By the way, I didn't rate it one star.

[BhindBluEyes430]

just lay it out for me

Death metal =.......
thrash = ........
Black =.........

I like Uncyclopedias way to tell a song is death metal better

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Death_metal

1.If greater than 6.66% of the vocals are comprehensible it is unlikely that you are listening to death metal.
2.Usually there is no differentiation between guitar and bass, they all just play.
3.Death Metal drummers often hit the same drum many times in a very short time period. As a result death metal drumming sounds like they are simply trying to annoy the guitar players and/or are falling down a set of stairs. Hitting a wall with a hammer as fash as u can is called alternative death metal drumming
4.Usually music has elements such as tempo, melody, harmony, and structure. However death metal is absent of these elements. Because of this death metal is often mistaken/declared as noise. or noisecore...or brutal noisecore..or technical noisecore.


alright then Comparing The Dead Kennedys to Green Day

[ThrobingCane]

Well, the way the question was asked could have been a bit offensive to some people... never a good idea to suggest a genre while insulting another.

By the way, I didn't rate it one star.

wasnt talking about you;)

[instantdeath999]

^It's uncyclopedia... everything has stereotypes.

[Tender-Surrender]

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Death_metal

1.If greater than 6.66% of the vocals are comprehensible it is unlikely that you are listening to death metal.
2.Usually there is no differentiation between guitar and bass, they all just play.
3.Death Metal drummers often hit the same drum many times in a very short time period. As a result death metal drumming sounds like they are simply trying to annoy the guitar players and/or are falling down a set of stairs. Hitting a wall with a hammer as fash as u can is called alternative death metal drumming
4.Usually music has elements such as tempo, melody, harmony, and structure. However death metal is absent of these elements. Because of this death metal is often mistaken/declared as noise. or noisecore...or brutal noisecore..or technical noisecore.

Haha, that is pretty funny.

Death Metal grew out of the thrash metal in the late '80s. Taking the gritty lyrics and morbid obsessions of thrash to extremes, death metal was -- as its name suggests -- solely about death, pain, and suffering. These relentlessly bleak lyrics were set to loud, heavy riffs that owed as much to the lumbering metal of Black Sabbath as it did to Metallica. Death metal bands also owed a debt to the complex song structures of '70s art rockers, though most of these winding, intricate compositional methods were learned through Metallica. Death metal never attracted a wide audience, but to some diehard heavy metal fans, it was a preferable alternative to Metallica and Guns N' Roses -- who were selling millions of records in the late '80s and early '90s -- or the pop-metal of Poison. It kept a small, dedicated cult throughout the '90s.

hrash was essentially the sound of underground heavy metal during the '80s, dominated by a driving, percussive approach to rhythm guitar (thanks to a pick-hand technique called palm muting) and furious levels of aggression. Thrash was often technically accomplished, taken at fast tempos, and emphasized heavy, sometimes atonal guitar riffs over melody; however, these generalizations are far from absolute rules. In its early days, thrash was essentially the same thing as speed metal, the product of American bands who in the early '80s fused the lean, vicious attack of the New Wave of British Heavy Metal with the tempos of hardcore punk and Motorhead. However, the dexterity and constant intensity required to play speed metal proved limiting to some, and a variety of different approaches quickly took shape: some thrash bands concentrated more on midtempo grooves, occasionally accelerating into speed-metal realms; some, like Metallica and Megadeth, used their instrumental technique to craft more intricate and progressive music; others emphasized the music's aggression to project theatrically menacing images. Thrash provided a harder, heavier, more authentically metallic alternative to the accessible pop-metal bands who dominated the charts in the late '80s, and despite a dearth of airplay, it became quite popular, so much so that when Metallica and Megadeth streamlined their sound to make it more accessible in the early '90s, they became instant superstars. Diehard underground metalheads took refuge in the thrash-inspired death and black metal styles, which took thrash's dark subject matter and visceral force to intentionally disturbing extremes.


SHORT VERSION

Thrash- A blending of heavy metal (such as produced by Black Sabbath) with the speed and intensity of hardcore

Death- Death metal is an extreme subgenre of heavy metal. It typically employs fast tempos, heavily distorted guitars, deep growling vocals, morbid lyrics, blast beat drumming, and complex song structures with multiple tempo changes.

[ThrobingCane]

Thrash is extreme and it sold very well, thanks.



Death is extreme, you don't know wtf you're talking about, gtfo, thanks.

Im not going to argue with some one that has a dead member of Mayhem for their avatar:D

[Tender-Surrender]

I agree with you, let's call real metal "extreme metal." But what, then, do we call metalcore, numetal, that crap? *** metal?

Thrash, Death/Black= Extreme

Nu-Metal, Metalcore, Power Metal, Speed Metal, Progressive Metal, etc= (Heavy) Metal

[Tender-Surrender]

I agree with the first part, **** the 2nd part. You can't group Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest (all heavy metal) with the bands you're calling heavy metal that don't deserve to be listed in this sentence along with those great bands....

That is just your opinion, but metal is a broad Genre, just because you don't like SOAD, Disturbed, KSE, etc; doesn't mean they aren't metal. You cannot change the genre of a band just because you don't like it.

[ThrobingCane]

LOL, I only did it for the "rate the avatar above you" thread and Hungry was the only one awesome enough to know it.... Since then, you and afterstasis have been added to the list of people who know what it is, but that's it:(

:D Nice

.....

[instantdeath999]

LOL, I only did it for the "rate the avatar above you" thread and Hungry was the only one awesome enough to know it.... Since then, you and afterstasis have been added to the list of people who know what it is, but that's it:(

Dead of Mayhem. He liked to bury his clothes and wear them on stage. Eventually he shot himself and had a picture taken by a bandmate (who later murdered someone and went to jail). There are also rumors of necklaces made out of his skull.

Do I win something?

[instantdeath999]

I'll wear it everyday.

[Rev0lver]

who doesn't know that mayhem cover? it's only the most contraversial one of all time.

just a quick question though, is it true hellhammer has a piece of the skull? i briefly had the oppurtunity to speak to him last year and forgot to ask about it.

[instantdeath999]

who doesn't know that mayhem cover? it's only the most contraversial one of all time.

just a quick question though, is it true hellhammer has a piece of the skull? i briefly had the oppurtunity to speak to him last year and forgot to ask about it.

It's only a rumor. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised, though... the whole band was crazy :(

[ThrobingCane]

A brand new, shiny... necklace....

You can now ad a forth to the list:D

Isnt that a Mayhem tribute band album cover??

[BhindBluEyes430]

Thrash, Death/Black= Extreme

Nu-Metal, Metalcore, Power Metal, Speed Metal, Progressive Metal, etc= (Heavy) Metal

AHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! (http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/AAAAAAAAA%21)

Why cant they just all be called Extreme Fast Metal

and Other metal. Wouldent Speed metal also be Part Extream

AHHHHHHHH (http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/AAAAAAAAA%21)

[Tender-Surrender]

AHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! (http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/AAAAAAAAA%21)

Why cant they just all be called Extreme Fast Metal

and Other metal. Wouldent Speed metal also be Part Extream

AHHHHHHHH (http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/AAAAAAAAA%21)

I guess partially, but speed metal is normally closer to power metal.

[a21schizoidman]

I have to say this:

other than the metalheads, no one really gives a **** about the little subgenres of metal,

whether you metalheads like it or not, the rest of the world who isnt a metalhead wants music that isnt in the realm of the overall genre of metal

whether it is Doom, Thrash, Heavy, Progressive, Black, Death, Folk, Industrial, etc.

its all under the main genre of metal

and a good majority of the non-metalheads dont want to hear all the squabbles of what everyone wants in their niche of metal, or what is and what isnt metal

we have very little songs of many other genres
punk, alternative, progressive, pop-rock, psychadelic, blues-rock, blues, jazz, jazz fusion, southern rock, rockabilly, 50s rock, surf rock, and others

just my 2 cents

[instantdeath999]

other than the metalheads, no one really gives a **** about the little subgenres of metal,



So true.

10 char.

[Tender-Surrender]

I have to say this:

other than the metalheads, no one really gives a **** about the little subgenres of metal,

whether you metalheads like it or not, the rest of the world who isnt a metalhead wants music that isnt in the realm of the overall genre of metal

whether it is Doom, Thrash, Heavy, Progressive, Black, Death, Folk, Industrial, etc.

its all under the main genre of metal

and a good majority of the non-metalheads dont want to hear all the squabbles of what everyone wants in their niche of metal, or what is and what isnt metal

we have very little songs of many other genres
punk, alternative, progressive, pop-rock, psychadelic, blues-rock, blues, jazz, jazz fusion, southern rock, rockabilly, 50s rock, surf rock, and others

just my 2 cents

QFT! /Thread

[a21schizoidman]

QFT! /Thread


So true.

10 char.

thank you both, im seriously sick of these hardcore metalheads pissed off b/c they have like 1 song of their niche of their subgenre of metal

its all got metal in its name, doesnt it? therefore, its from the main genre of metal, there are at least a dozen more major genres out there poorly represented or not in the game where (whether you agree or not) we have like 20 metal songs (on disc RB1, RB2, and DLC) total

[afterstasis]

I have to say this:

other than the metalheads, no one really gives a **** about the little subgenres of metal,

whether you metalheads like it or not, the rest of the world who isnt a metalhead wants music that isnt in the realm of the overall genre of metal

whether it is Doom, Thrash, Heavy, Progressive, Black, Death, Folk, Industrial, etc.

its all under the main genre of metal

and a good majority of the non-metalheads dont want to hear all the squabbles of what everyone wants in their niche of metal, or what is and what isnt metal


agreed.
i've been accused of being a bit of a stickler when it comes to discussing obscure bands and genres of music, but i see no point in insulting others for having their own interpretation (no matter how misinformed it may be) of a band's music.

[a21schizoidman]

agreed.
i've been accused of being a bit of a stickler when it comes to discussing obscure bands and genres of music, but i see no point in insulting others for having their own interpretation (no matter how misinformed it may be) of a band's music.

yeah, I understand, I could be the same with Prog (prog rock, prog metal, prog death metal, avant-garde, art rock, experimental, symphonic rock, neo-prog) but I dont complain about the fact that the 2 true prog songs we have as DLC already are only prog rock and prog metal, and we have no neo-prog or something, I just say, hey look 2 prog tracks as DLC, AWESOME!, now lets get some 60s rock!

[instantdeath999]

I usually don't categorize metal, though it does kinda bother me when Hard Rock and metal get grouped together, since they are so different.

[a21schizoidman]

I usually don't categorize metal, though it does kinda bother me when Hard Rock and metal get grouped together, since they are so different.

yeah, but there is plenty of metal in the game that is def. some form of metal, so ppl shouldnt be complaining about a lack of metal

[ThrobingCane]

yeah, but there is plenty of metal in the game that is def. some form of metal, so ppl shouldnt be complaining about a lack of metal

Yeah i said this earlier there is a few in RB2

[Rev0lver]

the problem i have been having is that it is 99% heavy metal or alternative/nu-metal. the reason i believe this genre should come before most of the others with low representation is 1. the massive amount of bands in the genre and 2. the fact that the genre is based on complex guitar and drum work, which makes it a great genre for RB as opposed to many of the genres a21schizoidman mentioned.

[KillDroneo]

After reading the 9 pages I missed, I've concluded that there are as many sub-divisions of Metal as there are regular genres. Which might explain the lack of aforementioned "Extreme, Death, Doom, Thrash, Evil, Bloody, Murder, Corpse, Crazy Face Basher" Metal.

[Julio_Strikes_Back]

Death is extreme, you don't know wtf you're talking about, gtfo, thanks.
What you should do:

http://images.coveralia.com/audio/m/Mayhem-Dawn_Of_The_Black_Hearts-Frontal.jpg

Thanks.

[BhindBluEyes430]

I usually don't categorize metal, though it does kinda bother me when Hard Rock and metal get grouped together, since they are so different.

thats understandable. Like i wouldent consider AC/DC metal or Guns N' Roses I wouldent really consider most hair bands even in the metal Genre

[a21schizoidman]

the problem i have been having is that it is 99% heavy metal or alternative/nu-metal. the reason i believe this genre should come before most of the others with low representation is 1. the massive amount of bands in the genre and 2. the fact that the genre is based on complex guitar and drum work, which makes it a great genre for RB as opposed to many of the genres a21schizoidman mentioned.

you havent listened to jazz, jazz fusion, blues, or progressive rock, have you?

[Tender-Surrender]

you havent listened to jazz, jazz fusion, blues, or progressive rock, have you?

I've recently have been getting into Jazz and Jazz Fusion. Definitely some great guitar work. Bodhisattva is proof of that. And Blues is definitely fitting to this game.

[a21schizoidman]

I've recently have been getting into Jazz and Jazz Fusion. Definitely some great guitar work. Bodhisattva is proof of that. And Blues is definitely fitting to this game.

jazz fusion is such a great genre, basically cuz its no limits to what you can do in it

[X2C-TOXIC]

Yea they should have some Job For A Cowboy or Lamb Of God,