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crabhammer
11-12-2007, 07:25 AM
I was once very excited for Rock Band. I have been following it since the day it was announced, thinking it would be one of the greatest games of all time. Now, as I look at the setlist, I am in utter disbelief in what a downturn this game has taken. Well over HALF the songs in this game are from the last 17 years whereas the 3 greatest decades of music only consist of the minority. I cannot believe how shafted the 80's and 60's got. The last 7 years of music (which for the most part has been complete crap) make up over a quarter of the set list. Now I'm not sure if this was Harmonix's doing or if MTV forced them to include so many terrible pop rock songs. GH1's setlist was amazing, yet this is where Harmonix has ended up.

Before the final batch of songs were announced, I had very little faith in this game. But I said to myself, if they add just one Iron Maiden song, I would buy the game. When I first read the words "Run to the Hills," I nearly **** my pants. Then to my horror, I discovered that it was a cover. Now I have NO problem with covers if they are decent. GH1 had AMAZING covers. Some even better than the originals. But The Trooper cover in GH2 was such a steaming pile of ****, I knew there could be almost no way Run to the Hills could be done justice. But I still had some hope. I told myself that if it was a decent cover, I would still buy the game.

I just saw official Run to the Hills video and I have to say, it was HORRIBLE. The backing vocals are terribly cheesy, the mixing is all screwed up(can't hear the guitars at all), and the vocal cover doesn't even sing the right notes at many points. I know most people on these boards say it's a good cover, but I fully understand that you are fanboys. Trust me, I WANT to be a fanboy of this game, but the decisions Harmonix has made have completely ruined that. If you can't get the master track of an Iron Maiden song, why would you even try to replicate Bruce Dickinson's vocals. It just can't be done.

I know I'm going to get flamed and you are all going to hate me but, like I said before, it's to be expected from fanboys. I just do not understand why Harmonix couldn't get a master track. GH3 has the master of Number of the Beast and both songs are on the same freakin' album. So I'm going to Gamestop today to cancel my reservation. Perhaps my faith can be restored when Heavy/Classic Metal gets the representation it deserves.

TheRocker
11-12-2007, 07:30 AM
Well they wanted to make a game about different genres of Rock , it cant be all to your specific liking dude just wait for some of the Downloadable Content thats sure to come on the games release , and Run To The Hills cover is better than any other i've ever heard.

Harmonix knows Music

rockst01
11-12-2007, 07:30 AM
God shut up. The master recording was either lost, destroyed or Neversoft scored some exclusivity deal with the band. The quality of the vocals shouldn't matter since you can just turn their volume all the way down so your band's singer can take over.

jq71586
11-12-2007, 07:31 AM
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Bakkster
11-12-2007, 07:31 AM
Before the final batch of songs were announced, I had very little faith in this game. But I said to myself, if they add just one Iron Maiden song, I would buy the game.

...

Trust me, I WANT to be a fanboy of this game, but the decisions Harmonix has made have completely ruined that. If you can't get the master track of an Iron Maiden song, why would you even try to replicate Bruce Dickinson's vocals. It just can't be done.

I know I'm going to get flamed and you are all going to hate me but, like I said before, it's to be expected from fanboys. I just do not understand why Harmonix couldn't get a master track.

So I'm confused, would you rather they had no Iron Maiden, then?

Also, as it has been stated many times, covers are only used when the original masters are unavailable or unusable. Considering GH3 has a track from the same album, I assume the master for this song was unusable. Perhaps it was mixed down to prevent isolating the extra instruments.

Sucks that the game wasn't what you hoped it would be. Hope you find something to better suit you.

Quastor
11-12-2007, 07:31 AM
It's already discussed in numerous other threads that the most probable reason for the cover is because the master track had the drums mixed down, so it would be impossible to seperate out the hi-hats from the snare and bass, etc. Since Guitar Hero only needs the guitar in a seperate track, they were able to use the master.

Enjoy not playing the game. It's your loss, not ours. Especially since the songs on the disc are only the beginning of what we'll be able to play.

Huwonk
11-12-2007, 07:32 AM
Step 1: Whine in the internet to people that are fanboys of what you're whining about.
Step 2: ...
Step 3: Profit.

Seriously, what is the point in complaining about this?

defmonkey
11-12-2007, 07:32 AM
God... Sage this fool!!

Eastwood
11-12-2007, 07:32 AM
The beauty of Rock Band is if you don't like the vocals, you can sing them yourself...

So hit us up on live and show us what it is supposed to sound like.

SmokaCola
11-12-2007, 07:32 AM
HMX is trying to appeal to everyone and a much larger croud than just metal heads, sorry man.

Jimmik
11-12-2007, 07:34 AM
1. The 80s sucked.
2. GH1 covers were bad, I don't know what you're smoking
3. Iron Maiden in the game probably means Iron Maiden for DLC, so while you're whining now they may add more (original recordings of) songs in the future so don't get too mad.
4. Call the waaaaaaambulance. I understand your dissapointment (not really but I'm trying to) but really your justification for not wanting this game seems......unjustified.

TheRocker
11-12-2007, 07:34 AM
http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/2/21/Whambulance.gif

Very nice Jq *High Five*

crabhammer
11-12-2007, 07:35 AM
God shut up. The master recording was either lost, destroyed or Neversoft scored some exclusivity deal with the band. The quality of the vocals shouldn't matter since you can just turn their volume all the way down so your band's singer can take over.

You obviously don't know what you're talking about. How would Neversoft have an exclusive deal with Iron Maiden, yet both games have their songs? And the master isn't lost or destroyed because GH3 has THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST from the album THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST. Run to the Hills is on the same album!! Plus, Steve Harris keeps the masters of all their stuff.

Eman311
11-12-2007, 07:35 AM
I think the Run to the Hills cover is awesome. One of the best covers in any music game.

don't like the setlist? don't buy the game and leave the forums. I'll be having fun while you whine.

Xanthous
11-12-2007, 07:38 AM
There's going to be a severe shortage of Rock Band this holiday season. Your narrow-mind and emo additude have just made one person's holiday much brighter.

Thanks for allowing a real fan to purchase the game.

jq71586
11-12-2007, 07:39 AM
You obviously don't know what you're talking about. How would Neversoft have an exclusive deal with Iron Maiden, yet both games have their songs? And the master isn't lost or destroyed because GH3 has THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST from the album THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST. Run to the Hills is on the same album!! Plus, Steve Harris keeps the masters of all their stuff.

Rock Band has a master track from Blue Oyster Cult
Guitar Hero 3 has a cover from Blue Oyster Cult

These things happen. Whining like a girl doesn't help.

MundaneSoul
11-12-2007, 07:39 AM
There's going to be a severe shortage of Rock Band this holiday season. Your narrow-mind and emo additude have just made one person's holiday much brighter.

Thanks for allowing a real fan to purchase the game.

Win.

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LongDarkBlues
11-12-2007, 07:40 AM
You obviously don't know what you're talking about. How would Neversoft have an exclusive deal with Iron Maiden, yet both games have their songs? And the master isn't lost or destroyed because GH3 has THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST from the album THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST. Run to the Hills is on the same album!! Plus, Steve Harris keeps the masters of all their stuff.
Well why don't you go complain on the Steve Harris forum? It's obviously easier to create the game content from the Masters than to record a cover of it. I'm sure they would've used the master if it was available to them.

Electric_Zen
11-12-2007, 07:40 AM
And the master isn't lost or destroyed because GH3 has THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST from the album THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST. Run to the Hills is on the same album!!

Re-read what Quastor posted about downmixing the drum tracks. If you don't understand what he said, then don't keep posting about this.

I will admit that I am disappointed with the backing vocals on the cover. But it's not enough to take the win out of this song.

Besides, you *****es won't even be able to hear the backing vocals when I'm on the mic.

Reaper0563
11-12-2007, 07:41 AM
i think a lot of this flaming is unnecessary, and i agree with the orignal poster that this isn't the best cover. But how can you possibly expect anyone to hit the same notes as bruce dickinson, not possible . . . hes crazy. But hey, at least the run to the hills cover wasn't as bad as the killer queen cover which was atrocious, but they were in the same boat. Who can freddie mercury's notes, hmmm, no one thats who.

Quastor
11-12-2007, 07:44 AM
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crabhammer
11-12-2007, 07:45 AM
1. The 80s sucked.
2. GH1 covers were bad, I don't know what you're smoking
3. Iron Maiden in the game probably means Iron Maiden for DLC, so while you're whining now they may add more (original recordings of) songs in the future so don't get too mad.
4. Call the waaaaaaambulance. I understand your dissapointment (not really but I'm trying to) but really your justification for not wanting this game seems......unjustified.

1.The 80's sucked?? Compared to this decade??? What are YOU smoking?
2. Listen to Iron Man and Bark at the Moon compared to the originals. Sounds pretty close to Ozzy. Listen to Rock Band version of Paranoid. Sounds pretty close to a woman.
3. Like I said, I'm still have some hope. But I fear that because Harmonix covered Run to the Hills, they won't bother getting masters of any other Maiden albums.
4. Like I also said, I expected this too. You need to understand that Heavy Metal and even Metal in general is a HUGE facet of the rock genre. Harmonix even made one of the four "attitudes" metal as well as one of the four shops. Yet there are only 3 or 4(depending on what you consider metal) metal songs in the game. GH1 had Ozzy, Sabbath, Purple, Priest, Pantera and others. I'm just wish Harmonix gave metal a little love.

TheRocker
11-12-2007, 07:49 AM
http://www.psistar.co.uk/images/stopwhining.jpg
Yah

Bakkster
11-12-2007, 07:52 AM
But how can you possibly expect anyone to hit the same notes as bruce dickinson, not possible . . . hes crazy.

Well yeah, it's Bruce Dickinson. Yes, THE Bruce Dickinson.

Crabhammer, you still haven't said if you would rather there be no Maiden song, or a Maiden cover.

SmokaCola
11-12-2007, 07:52 AM
There was a time
When I was so broken hearted
Rock Band wasn't much of a friend of mine
The tables have turned, yeah
Cause me and them ways have parted
That kind of game was the killin' kind
Now listen
All I want is a decent cover of Maiden
I know all I need to know is HMX hates me


I was cryin' when I heard
No Maiden for me
Rock band is sweet misery
I was cryin' just to get you
Now I'm dyin' Ôcause I let you
Make a horrible cover of Maiden


Now there's no reason to live
Between pleasure and pain
Yeah pleasure and pain I just want it
Must be one good cover to give


It's down on me
Yeah I got to tell you one thing
It's been on my mind
HMX I gotta say
We're not the same no no no
You got that certain way
Of what you don't give me properly
It makes me weak in my knees
Now the word out on the street
You really wanted the master
But it got burned in flames
It's a fire I wanted to put out


I was cryin' when I heard
No Maiden for me
Rock band is sweet misery
I was cryin' just to get you
Now I'm dyin' Ôcause I let you
Make a horrible cover of Maiden


Now there's no reason to live
Between pleasure and pain
Yeah pleasure and pain I just want it
Must be one good cover to give


I was cryin' when I heard
No Maiden for me
Rock band is sweet misery
I was cryin' just to get you
Now I'm dyin' Ôcause I let you
Make a horrible cover of Maiden, Oh no Oh No Oh nooooo!!!


I was cryin' when I heard
No Maiden for me
Rock band is sweet misery
I was cryin' just to get you
Now I'm dyin' Ôcause I let you
Make a horrible cover of Maiden, I want that sweet sweet maiden baby
I was cryin' when I heard
No Maiden for me
(Fade Out Here)


I really need a life.

crabhammer
11-12-2007, 07:59 AM
Well yeah, it's Bruce Dickinson. Yes, THE Bruce Dickinson.

Crabhammer, you still haven't said if you would rather there be no Maiden song, or a Maiden cover.

To tell you the truth, I would have hoped they would have realized that it is nearly impossible to replicate Bruce Dickinson and gotten an amazing Maiden song that could have been a master. Powerslave off the Powerslave album would have been good, and was recorded several years later with a better chance of separate recorded tracks. Or even a song from their new albums like The Wicker Man or anything off of Brave New World that would definitely be recorded in separate tracks.

LongDarkBlues
11-12-2007, 08:01 AM
You need to understand that Heavy Metal and even Metal in general is a HUGE facet of the rock genre. Harmonix even made one of the four "attitudes" metal as well as one of the four shops. Yet there are only 3 or 4(depending on what you consider metal) metal songs in the game. GH1 had Ozzy, Sabbath, Purple, Priest, Pantera and others.
What you need to understand is that Metal is huge on the internet - aka white teenage boys - and that in the world at large is not that big. There's a lot of genres that fall under the Rock umbrella and the game has a pretty wide range of things covered. As far as 'attitudes' there's just as many punk songs are as there are metal songs, but you don't see the punk fans *****ing endlessly. Besides, with the DLC, you'll have 4 Sabbath songs and 7 Metallica songs. Add that to a Maiden song, Coheed and Cambria, those wretched Flyleaf and Crooked X songs, and you've got 15 Metal tracks - more than 10% of the total.

now if only you'd complain about the lack of a double-bass pedal it'd be perfect...

Eastwood
11-12-2007, 08:03 AM
Smoka... Wanna write songs for me?

All B.S. aside, I feel as though this is a nag type of complaint. When playing GH1 and 2, I barely noticed the vocals, unless they were god awful (Heart Shaped Box).

IMHO I think the Run to the Hills vocals were not bad at all.

HMXJohnlok
11-12-2007, 08:03 AM
Hmm, I'm sorry to hear about your disappointment. I know you said that you are expecting "fanboys," which is a bit inflammatory to begin with, especially since anybody who is disagreeing with you, I think, is supposed to fall into that category. Maybe you are expecting a hostile difference of opinion, which I think makes more sense, but it could have been put a little better.

Either way, I sincerely like the cover we've got! While I for one almost always prefer the masters over the cover, it can be a bit of a mixed bag. For instance, we can really do a lot more with mixing sometimes, especially for songs with heavy instrumentals like "Run to the Hills." Again, I am sincerely sorry that you're disappointed, but I urge you to reconsider and give it a chance. While occasionally there are songs that just don't initially seem like they would be really awesome, those were the songs for me that really held up when I was playing in a full band - being able to see the big picture really helps to make things click. While sometimes I don't prefer a song (to listen to, as per my taste), it can still be a blast to play!

In the meantime, I urge the rest of you to respond reasonably, since his opinion is definitely a valid one - and ultimately, it is his dollar to spend. Thanks for the input!

Saltines
11-12-2007, 08:07 AM
I was once very excited for Rock Band. I have been following it since the day it was announced, thinking it would be one of the greatest games of all time. Now, as I look at the setlist, I am in utter disbelief in what a downturn this game has taken. Well over HALF the songs in this game are from the last 17 years whereas the 3 greatest decades of music only consist of the minority. I cannot believe how shafted the 80's and 60's got. The last 7 years of music (which for the most part has been complete crap) make up over a quarter of the set list. Now I'm not sure if this was Harmonix's doing or if MTV forced them to include so many terrible pop rock songs. GH1's setlist was amazing, yet this is where Harmonix has ended up.

Before the final batch of songs were announced, I had very little faith in this game. But I said to myself, if they add just one Iron Maiden song, I would buy the game. When I first read the words "Run to the Hills," I nearly **** my pants. Then to my horror, I discovered that it was a cover. Now I have NO problem with covers if they are decent. GH1 had AMAZING covers. Some even better than the originals. But The Trooper cover in GH2 was such a steaming pile of ****, I knew there could be almost no way Run to the Hills could be done justice. But I still had some hope. I told myself that if it was a decent cover, I would still buy the game.

I just saw official Run to the Hills video and I have to say, it was HORRIBLE. The backing vocals are terribly cheesy, the mixing is all screwed up(can't hear the guitars at all), and the vocal cover doesn't even sing the right notes at many points. I know most people on these boards say it's a good cover, but I fully understand that you are fanboys. Trust me, I WANT to be a fanboy of this game, but the decisions Harmonix has made have completely ruined that. If you can't get the master track of an Iron Maiden song, why would you even try to replicate Bruce Dickinson's vocals. It just can't be done.

I know I'm going to get flamed and you are all going to hate me but, like I said before, it's to be expected from fanboys. I just do not understand why Harmonix couldn't get a master track. GH3 has the master of Number of the Beast and both songs are on the same freakin' album. So I'm going to Gamestop today to cancel my reservation. Perhaps my faith can be restored when Heavy/Classic Metal gets the representation it deserves.

I like the cover, although its far from the original, its still enjoyable.. Unlike the trooper.
I disagree with you mainly when you say "I know most people on these boards say it's a good cover, but I fully understand that you are fanboys."

Really? We're fan boys because HMX made Run To The Hills the best they could and is quite enjoyable? I understand if you dislike it but to call people fanboys because they like it is just stupid. I agree that it's pretty much unlikely that ANYONE could replicate Bruce Dickinson's voice and I would much rather have a master track.. But obviously that option wasnt presented and they had to do a cover. Run To The Hills will still be one of my favorite songs to play, be it any instrument.

Eman311
11-12-2007, 08:08 AM
I stand by my statement that the cover of Run to the Hills is the best in the game.

crabhammer
11-12-2007, 08:09 AM
What you need to understand is that Metal is huge on the internet - aka white teenage boys - and that in the world at large is not that big. There's a lot of genres that fall under the Rock umbrella and the game has a pretty wide range of things covered. As far as 'attitudes' there's just as many punk songs are as there are metal songs, but you don't see the punk fans *****ing endlessly. Besides, with the DLC, you'll have 4 Sabbath songs and 7 Metallica songs. Add that to a Maiden song, Coheed and Cambria, those wretched Flyleaf and Crooked X songs, and you've got 15 Metal tracks - more than 10% of the total.

now if only you'd complain about the lack of a double-bass pedal it'd be perfect...

Wow. You obviously don't know metal. Not big in the world at large? You mean it's not that big in AMERICA. Yes, metal may not be relevant to popular culture anymore, but go to England, Germany, Spain, Italy, any country in Scandinavia, any country in South America, and even Australia, metal is HUGE. This is EXACTLY why it disappoints me.

ThePaska
11-12-2007, 08:11 AM
I stand by my statement that the cover of Run to the Hills is the best in the game.

I could not agree with you more. I was so pleasantly surprised the first time I heard it.

I don't know how anyone could complain about it, but I guess not everyone is going to be happy. Sounds to me like Rock Band just isn't for you. Sorry that Rock Band is appealing to a more general audience, I know it sounds crazy, but they might just be trying to make a profit while selling and making a good game.

Barbossa
11-12-2007, 08:11 AM
Well I had to make an account just to respond to this. The cover is worse than I imagined and I was really expecting something especially awful. This game's song list overall is utterly terrible. I can totally see why Harmonix did it, though.

They want Rockband to sell well. Who is their target audience? You got it! Drunk college idiots! But these college kids are poor! If they are going to spend a boat load of money on a video game plus accessories, it had better be worth it! How do you make the game worth it to drunk college kids?! Saddle up with MTV to help you pick the setlist! You're already on the right track! So what kind of music do drunk college kids listen to when they aren't listening to the musically brilliant rap or hip-hop? That's right! Worthless 90's and 00's "rock"! So when the extent of your target audience's knowledge of music thats dates back longer than 10 years ago is limited to "Stairway to Heaven" and "Back in Black," you got to cram your game chock full of miserable modern rock so these frat boys, who cream their pants at the mere mention of the Red Hot Chili Peppers, will shell out the 200 bucks which goes straight in your pockets! Gee, thanks angry guy from the Sopranos with the weird hair! You sure are an expert!

Keebler
11-12-2007, 08:14 AM
I'm glad you're not buying it, that way I have one less whiner to encounter on XBL.

MundaneSoul
11-12-2007, 08:17 AM
Well I had to make an account just to respond to this. The cover is worse than I imagined and I was really expecting something especially awful. This game's song list overall is utterly terrible. I can totally see why Harmonix did it, though.

They want Rockband to sell well. Who is their target audience? You got it! Drunk college idiots! But these college kids are poor! If they are going to spend a boat load of money on a video game plus accessories, it had better be worth it! How do you make the game worth it to drunk college kids?! Saddle up with MTV to help you pick the setlist! You're already on the right track! So what kind of music do drunk college kids listen to when they aren't listening to the musically brilliant rap or hip-hop? That's right! Worthless 90's and 00's "rock"! So when the extent of your target audience's knowledge of music thats dates back longer than 10 years ago is limited to "Stairway to Heaven" and "Back in Black," you got to cram your game chock full of miserable modern rock so these frat boys, who cream their pants at the mere mention of the Red Hot Chili Peppers, will shell out the 200 bucks which goes straight in your pockets! Gee, thanks angry guy from the Sopranos with the weird hair! You sure are an expert!

I guess you overlooked all of the amazing classic rock songs on the track list along with all of that modern rock that you hate so much. Oh, and the guy from the Sopranos that you're ripping on picked The Who's "Who's Next" as the first album for DLC. You know. More classic rock.

Eastwood
11-12-2007, 08:19 AM
Hey Barbossa,

Sounds like either A.) you didn't get into college or B.) You got picked on by "frat boys."

They have one chilli pepper song in there, so there goes that arguement.

If they were really targeting "frat boys" then they would go after songs that are linked to frat boys. They would have Santeria and Phil Collins in there. Follow that with Chumbawumba and all those other dumb party songs.

I think the set list is fairly well spread out. A lot of different sounds to chew on. For you to say it is directed toward drunk college idiots just makes you sound like you have led a pathetic, grudge filled life. Go have a drink and get laid, you pansy!

LongDarkBlues
11-12-2007, 08:25 AM
Except it's not. I like a lot of metal, and sure there's a bunch of people who really love metal, but there's a lot of people who really love a lot of different stuff. A lot of European metal is also death metal and black metal - that stuff is just not going to work in this game. I think they've done a great job including classic metal that works with all 4 band members. I know that metal and indie rock seem huge because we're all online and clearly into music, but to the rest of the world neither are that big. Go check out myspace and see how many pop bands there are in Scandinavia compared to the number of Metal bands - it's not even close.

For example, even if every single man, woman and child in every country in Scandinavia (Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland and Iceland) bought the same metal album that'd still only be 24.7 million copies. Santana's crap-fest Supernatural sold 25 Million.

Oh, and Barbossa = fail.

admanimal
11-12-2007, 08:25 AM
Saddle up with MTV to help you pick the setlist!...Gee, thanks angry guy from the Sopranos with the weird hair! You sure are an expert!

Neither MTV nor SVZ had anything to do with picking the set list for the disc. Try again.

If you truly believe the entire setlist is terrible, then you have more of a closed mind towards music than you claim the drunken frat boys do. You lose.

parastroke7
11-12-2007, 08:31 AM
Not to open up a can of worms, but I almost agree with crabhammer.

What the hell IS up with all the pop rock songs anyway? WTF is that sht?

and yes, they DID forget the 80's and the 60's, but that wasn't a big blow to me.

I've heard HMX make some pretty shtty covers, too. I haven't heard the Iron Maiden cover yet, but I will in 8 days. I can just imagine how cheesy it is.

and apart from that, the only reason I'm still wanting RB is because I know there'll be an ashload of DLC, and they'll stop having to do covers and whatnot.

and there's fcking DRUMS, dude. DRUMS.

It'll be okay. Despite the cheesy covers and *****stick pop rock songs, there's still some good in this game (although HMX did try to destroy a quarter of it, for mysterious reasons)

parastroke7
11-12-2007, 08:34 AM
I also partially agree with his drunken fratboy statement.

Although instead of "drunken frat boy", I replace it with "Mainstream gobbling hand-fed person", put the cherry on top, and serve.

Eastwood
11-12-2007, 08:35 AM
If you truly believe the entire setlist is terrible, than you have more of a closed mind towards music than you claim the drunken frat boys do. You lose.

admanimal FTW!

dlisapussy
11-12-2007, 08:39 AM
Dude, I'm not familiar with this song and I'm not a huge fan of Maiden, but I know their style and what that sound like. When I saw the video, I thought it was the master recording. I actually credit HMX for finding someone who sounds close to Dickinson. GH's covers weren't that good. Ughhhh, the Incubus one was TERRIBLE. It made my ears bleed and I'm not lying.

Another thing, Have you listened to every single song?

I'm a gigantic fan of classic/psychedelic rock or anything 60's and 70's (or any music, just mainly these). I was really pissed when only one 60's song was announced and there were only few spots left because I know the 60's is what made rock. I was debating on whether or not to get the game. But, like very few people have done, I listened to every single song that I didn't know. It turns out I already knew and liked most of them, the ones I didn't know didn't seem to be bad either, some I found to be pretty darn good. If your one of the many, listen to every song first. And why would you give up on a game when you only know a quarter of the songs. THERE'S GOING TO BE A YEAR'S WORTH OF DLC. And the thing about 60's music is that many of the musicians of that time or either deceased, old, or perhaps stubborn, so licenses from that time period are hard to get.

One last thing. You people have to open to music. You have to let it grow on you. When I get a CD I listen to the whole thing until I either like every song or the songs that I don't like piss me off. Not that many songs piss me off, so basically I force myself to like or love songs. Even if I don't like the song, I don't ***** about how it sucks. You like the music that you like, if you don't like it, don't talk about it or criticize it because there is obviously people who do like it.

SmokaCola
11-12-2007, 08:43 AM
I just listened to RTTH cover and the one off their album. I'll have to say it's insanely close, you need to really stop smoking that **** man.

logicalnoise
11-12-2007, 08:45 AM
I don't know it seems to me that the critics of the setlist are just worried about their investments. Everyone has teh genre they love and the one they want respected. I'd absolutley love some dream theater. Supposedly they haven't been apporached by eitehr HMX or neversoft. It's dissappointing but HMX knows what their doing and they know music games. I only liked and knew about half of the Gh1 soundtrack. After a week I enjoyed nearly every song on that disc. EVen if the song ityself wasn't my taste the experience of "playing" them was terrific. HMX is run by musicians. Not just musicians but all kinds of musicians. They will always offer as many kinds of music in ther games as possible.

Patch_
11-12-2007, 08:48 AM
Well they kind of had to put music from the 90s and 00s, they're trying to appeal to a lot of people's taste, have something for everybody and believe me, I'd love this game to be all 60s/80s music but I understand why it can't be that way.

I can't believe somebody would not buy a game because of 1 cover though, that it would"push them over the edge" GHII and GHIII must of really turned you off.
I think the setlist is very good but I think once we see DLC we'll start getting music that each of us want, etc.

Different strokes for different folks, cancel if you want but I just hope you don't change your mind. I'm sure somebody else will be happy as all hell they can get it though

admanimal
11-12-2007, 08:52 AM
Although instead of "drunken frat boy", I replace it with "Mainstream gobbling hand-fed person", put the cherry on top, and serve.

If the goal of this post was to make yourself look like a ridiculous jerk, mission accomplished!

Eastwood
11-12-2007, 08:54 AM
I don't see many songs in the set list that I would call main stream. I mean, how many people know Ballroom Blitz outside of Wayne's World? And there were a lot more main stream Stone songs than Gimme Shelter.

hmxsean
11-12-2007, 09:03 AM
As stated numerous times - masters were used in any case the masters were available and usable (see multiple posts about how drums are recorded.) Sad to hear you don't like it but it is a pretty killer cover, it really is.

Closing thread A: Because complaining about setlist should go in Ultimate Setlist and B: Because there are already several threads on this EXACT topic and it is just a dumb flame war at this point.