Slipkont accused of influencing murder

[Oz1215]

All i have to say is wow (http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/slipknot_accused_of_school_murder.html).....

[moshun]

o_O .... <_<;

Has nobody considered that... IT IS in south africa...

[instantdeath999]

Just... wow. And I actually like them somewhat.

[Der_Lex]

Not relevant to the topic, but that particular misspelling of Slipknot in the thread title made me giggle in juvenile glee... :D ('kont' = Dutch for 'butt'... heh, 'slipbutt' :p).

[moshun]

Not relevant to the topic, but that particular misspelling of Slipknot in the thread title made me giggle in juvenile glee... :D ('kont' = Dutch for 'butt'... heh, 'slipbutt' :p).
haha I was thinking it was funny for different reasons. :rolleyes:

[DarkSide247]

haha I was thinking it was funny for different reasons. :rolleyes:
I thought this was more funny. <_<

But seriously, why is SlipKnot getting blamed? He said "Satan" made him do it, but the fact he comes in dressed like Jordison means the band is to blame?

[Oz1215]

Not relevant to the topic, but that particular misspelling of Slipknot in the thread title made me giggle in juvenile glee... :D ('kont' = Dutch for 'butt'... heh, 'slipbutt' :p).

hmmm...i didnt notice that...i must fix it before i look foolish to the rest of the rockband community >.>

:D

[Der_Lex]

hmmm...i didnt notice that...i must fix it before i look foolish to the rest of the rockband community >.>

:D

No, no, leave it in for awesomeness' sake (that and certain devious mods will probably simply change it back :D ). In fact, I think I'll start referring to the band as Slipkont in casual conversation from now on ;).

[Oz1215]

No, no, leave it in for awesomeness' sake (that and certain devious mods will probably simply change it back :D ). In fact, I think I'll start referring to the band as Slipkont in casual conversation from now on ;).

only cause i like you ;)


:eek:

[Bang Camaro]

Not remotely their fault. The kid was clearly messed up.

[Der_Lex]

only cause i like you ;)

Win.

The article itself seems like the usual 'blame the evil band' nonsense. And from the stories one of my friends who regularly visits South Africa for work tells me, it doesn't seem like the big cities there don't have an excess of violent crime there anyway.
My wife might have to go there in a few months to help out the new South African branch of the law firm where she works, and I'm still not too happy at that prospect...

[benson111]

Reminds me of when Ozzy was blamed for a kid killing himself....

WARNING: this site is well a religious one... AND the articals are a kick in the pants..

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Rock-n-Roll/ozzy.htm


so if you dont wanna go here are some excerpts....

Ozzy Osbourne is straight from Hell!

Ozzy Osbourne has been sued in court repeatedly by angry parents who blame Ozzy for their teen's suicidal death. I will grant that those parents are totally irresponsible for allowing their teens to listen to such demonic music; but Ozzy will be held liable by God because he's the one producing that demonic trash. And don't think for one second that Ozzy doesn't know that teenagers are listening to his loathsome music.

Ozzy Osborne (pictured at left and right) is well-known for using Satanic imagery to sell his works of darkness, yet oddly Ozzy denies being a Satanist. One thing is for certain Mr. Osborne...your music is Satanic!

"I've now been sued by about 25 people who claim their kids committed suicide from listening to my music." -Ozzy Osbourne (Source -interview, Ozzy Meets Marilyn Manson, 1997)

Ozzy denies being responsible for any deaths, claiming that his music doesn't make people crazy, it just gives crazy people a vehicle to ride on. The Supreme Court defended Ozzy on the basis of Free Speech. We're talking about teenagers here who killed themselves while listening to Ozzy's music! Ironically, Christians are going to jail for preaching the Word of God; but Ozzy is just exercising his "free speech." Satan is truly the god of this world (2nd Corinthians 4:4).

This should be a clear WARNING to all parents to get involved with what their kids are listening to and watching. Only God knows the total number of young people who have died as a result of Satanic music's influence. This includes all forms of heavy metal, and especially "Christian rock" because it causes people to let their guard down against Satan.

"In October 1984, a nineteen-year-old teenager named John M. shot himself in the head, while listening to Ozzy Osbourne's "Suicide Solution". When the coroner entered the room, he found the headphones still on John's head. This would be one of the tragedies that caused Ozzy immeasurable grief.

In 1986, Ozzy had just gotten off a plane at LAX airport when people began asking him about the "lawsuits". Ozzy knew nothing about any lawsuit but the details quickly emerged. Three lawsuits had been launched against Ozzy, claiming that his lyrics had caused youths to commit suicide. The family of John hired attorney Thomas Anderson in a lawsuit against Ozzy. Mr. Anderson claimed on the "Don't Blame Me" Ozzy video, that the song contained tones known as 'hemisync' and would cause a person to be unable to resist what was being said in the song.

The Institute for Bio-Acoustics Research, Inc. (IBAR) was hired to evaluate the song. They claim to have found subliminal lyrics that weren't included in the lyrics sheet. These subliminal lyrics were sung at one and one-half times the normal rate of speech and are not recognized by a first time listener. The IBAR institute claimed the subliminal lyrics, "are audible enough that their meaning and true intent becomes clear after being listened to over and over again." The subliminal lyrics in question were "Why try, why try? Get the gun and try it! Shoot, Shoot, Shoot", followed by a hideous laughter.

Further analysis by IBAR revealed the hemisync tones, which result from a patented process that uses sound waves to influence an individual's mental state. The tones have been found to increase the rate at which the human brain assimilates and processes information. IBAR claimed these tones made John vulnerable to the suggestive lyrics which Ozzy sang.

Ozzy's lawyer claimed that this was nonsense and relied upon the First Amendment of the Constitution to argue that Ozzy could write about anything he wanted. Three people had now taken their lives, and in each case it was Ozzy's 'Suicide Solution' song which was the focus as the cause of the deaths. Mr. Anderson claimed that the words, "shoot shoot, get the gun, get the gun" were audible in the song. There is an effect which can be heard on the song, that could be interpreted as that if one tried hard enough. The sounds were just Ozzy messing around with the soundboard." -SOURCE



LOULHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHALOLOLOLOL

[instantdeath999]

I've seen that. I can't recall an article that made me want to punch the author more.

[benson111]

I've seen that. I can't recall an article that made me want to punch the author more.

I know....misinformed judgmental turd burglar....:D people like that need some kind of answer i guess.

[Bang Camaro]

It's stuff like that article claiming Ozzy is Satan that give Christians a bad name. Believe it or not, there are plenty of Christians like me who aren't insane and enjoy listening to good music.

[m00p]

Here we go again..:rolleyes:

[benson111]

Here we go again..:rolleyes:

i know the circle is now complete....or did you mean some thing altogether different?

[PCTraitor]

Why did some guy threaten to play Slipknot and then someone killed him before he could? If so then I believe he could get off.

[Dr. Wagner]

More like influencing bad taste in music, amirite?

[rocketmanpwns]

Hahahahhahahahaha this is too funny.
I'm so mean

[Lithium_666]

nothing causes anyone to kill someone other than their own decisions

[ExpertDrummer]

Wow...this was just like Judas Priest if any of you know.News said that 2 kids commited suicide with a shotgun because of subliminal messages in one of their songs.I dont have a link because it was like... IDK.It was on another show and Judas Priest was interviewed.

[whofan]

All i have to say is wow (http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/slipknot_accused_of_school_murder.html).....
Did I go back in time to 1989? God, we're getting the same things as the Judas Priest subliminal message case in between 1990-1991. *Bangs head against desk*

If you think that music is telling you to murder people (or commit suicide, as was the case in the Judas Priest trial), you clearly have a lot of issues.

[whofan]

Wow...this was just like Judas Priest if any of you know.News said that 2 kids commited suicide with a shotgun because of subliminal messages in one of their songs.I dont have a link because it was like...2-3 years ago.It was on another show and Judas Priest was interviewed.
Man, now I know that I've gone back in time!!!

It wasn't 2-3 years ago, it was 17 years ago.

It involved 2 people. One committed suicide and was successful, the other not so much. After discharging the shotgun in his mouth, he was saved and continued to live for many more years (mind you, he didn't quite look the same).

The parents of the deceased and of the injured launched a lawsuit against Judas Priest because they thought that there was subliminal messaging condoning suicide on the album "Stained Class" (Specifically the tracks "Beyond The Realms Of Death" and "Heroes End". Of course, one has to realize that these parents were clearly ignoring the fact that "Stained Class" was released in 1978 and purchased by millions of people who didn't attempt suicide.

Regardless, after a lengthy trial, the lawsuit was dismissed and JP got off scott-free.

People who believe that music really has this kind of effect on people don't realize that there are MANY other factors involved here. They just want to believe that their cute little kid would never do something like this without someone/thing telling them to.

[Colt_Steele]

This includes all forms of heavy metal, and especially "Christian rock" because it causes people to let their guard down against Satan.
The irony of statements like that make me wonder how we've lasted this long.

Go ahead, take our music away. That'll stop Satan, no doubt. I'd even give up my music for a little while just so I could ask them why people were still killing each other afterward.

[whofan]

The irony of statements like that make me wonder how we've lasted this long.

Go ahead, take our music away. That'll stop Satan, no doubt. I'd even give up my music for a little while just so I could ask them why people were still killing each other afterward.
But... But.... Music has been around since the beginning of time, and so has killing. Don't you see the connection?

SEE the connection!!

[grumpypariah]

i've said it for years now, and i'll say it again.............the day i lose it, slaughter my family, and gun down as many people as possible at work............i will be doing it to the sweet tunes of Yanni and John Tesh.

let's see the backlash from that!

[ExpertDrummer]

Man, now I know that I've gone back in time!!!

It wasn't 2-3 years ago, it was 17 years ago.

It involved 2 people. One committed suicide and was successful, the other not so much. After discharging the shotgun in his mouth, he was saved and continued to live for many more years (mind you, he didn't quite look the same).

The parents of the deceased and of the injured launched a lawsuit against Judas Priest because they thought that there was subliminal messaging condoning suicide on the album "Stained Class" (Specifically the tracks "Beyond The Realms Of Death" and "Heroes End". Of course, one has to realize that these parents were clearly ignoring the fact that "Stained Class" was released in 1978 and purchased by millions of people who didn't attempt suicide.

Regardless, after a lengthy trial, the lawsuit was dismissed and JP got off scott-free.

People who believe that music really has this kind of effect on people don't realize that there are MANY other factors involved here. They just want to believe that their cute little kid would never do something like this without someone/thing telling them to.

Sorry,I think i was thinking I SAW it 2-3 years ago,not when it actually happened.

[ExpertDrummer]

i've said it for years now, and i'll say it again.............the day i lose it, slaughter my family, and gun down as many people as possible at work............i will be doing it to the sweet tunes of Yanni and John Tesh.

let's see the backlash from that!

that...that...thats horrible and disgusting just thinking about it.Cause my next door neighbors died because the dad went and killed and tourtured his family and commited suicide.Not good...even thinking about it,It was on the NEWS

[HPLabonte]

must stop teh slipkonts!!!

not a fan of them, but man, I hate when i hear stuff like this!

[grumpypariah]

that...that...thats horrible and disgusting just thinking about it.Cause my next door neighbors died because the dad went and killed and tourtured his family and commited suicide.Not good...even thinking about it,It was on the NEWS

it wasn't his fault.................what was on his ipod at the time? in his DVD player?

he watched The Weather Channel often, didn't he? that usually gets my blood boiling


besides, it was a joke. laugh, i was goofing.



anyone who knows me knows well enough that when i snap it'll be my ex-wife's fault and not some music group, DUH!

[FloodOne]

dont mind him, he thinks bad things only happen in his neighborhood.

[nashphx13z]

All i have to say is wow (http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/slipknot_accused_of_school_murder.html).....

Great. /sarcasm. Another great band down the drain. *references the breakup of Wolfmother*

[killer_roach]

Yawn, metal band blamed for influencing murder. Not again.

Wake me when the headline involves "<Metal band> accused of committing murder".

Methinks I'll have a nice long nap :)

[LZ_69]

How tipycal, somebody goes on a bloody rampage just becuase they are crazy messed up f*cks!! and then when its time account for their actions its: Satan or "Slipkont" made me do it, the silly rabbit from the Trix cereal drove my hand!!!

And what's worst is that the media eats this stuff up!! they freakin' love it!

[Oz1215]

Yawn, metal band blamed for influencing murder. Not again.

Wake me when the headline involves "<Metal band> accused of committing murder".

Methinks I'll have a nice long nap :)

Clearly you've never heard about the Sweedish Black Metal bands? :confused:

[Hamsterhitman]

Well... I lived in Johannesburg, South Africa for over two years, and this doesn't quite seem to be very out of the ordinary. Some group of guys tried to kidnap my mom once... Yeah, not the safest place in the world by any means.

Pretty country though.