Great albums by non classic lineups.

[AxlVanHagar]

Deep Purple - Burn and Stormbringer

Black Sabbath - Mob Rules

Motley Crue - MC94

KISS - Revenge

Aerosmith - Rock In A Hard Place

Thin Lizzy - Thunder & Lightening

Alice Cooper - Welcome To My Nightmare

Anthrax - Sound of White Noise

Megadeth - United Abominations


GO!:D

[defenestrater]

REM-Accelerate

This is a really fun idea for a topic. It makes me wish I could come up with more than one album off the top of my head. Maybe I'll think of something else later.

[BhindBluEyes430]

Dose AC/DC's Back In Black Count? they did lose their lead singer

[a21schizoidman]

Dose AC/DC's Back In Black Count? they did lose their lead singer

i thought the thread was for GREAT albums, not poppy-overplayed radio-friendly bs

[polishdog90]

i thought the thread was for GREAT albums, not poppy-overplayed radio-friendly bs

Haha I lold! I don't think that's a bad album, but it is definately overplayed. I would take every previous AC/DC album over that one.

[BhindBluEyes430]

i thought the thread was for GREAT albums, not poppy-overplayed radio-friendly bs

Thats true its defiantly not their best but it dose have some kick ass songs

"Shoot to Thrill" "Hells Bells" Let Me Put My Love Into You (My Favorite :D)

but people still consider it great

Highway to Hell was my favorite album tho

[a21schizoidman]

anyways:
Bang! - James Gang (Bolin-era)
Rush - Rush (no Peart)
Company of Strangers - Bad Company (no Rogers)
Walk On - Boston (no Delp)
Future Games - Fleetwood Mac (Welch-era Mac)
The Division Bell & A Momentary Lapse of Reason - Pink Floyd (Waters-less (plus Mason didnt play drums a whole lot on MLOR (in fact Carmine Appice played some songs))
Let There Be Rock - AC/DC (had Mark Evans on bass instead of the (later) popular Cliff Williams)
The Black Album - Metallica (no Cliff)
Drama - Yes (ok, not great, but alright)









Chinese Democracy - GnR.....

[Mystlyfe77]

...And Justice For All - Metallica
Rush - Rush
The Division Bell - Pink Floyd
Burn the Priest - Lamb of God (Burn the Priest at the time)
Dark Passion Play - Nightwish

[WhiffleBallTony]

Iron Maiden - The X Factor
Iron Maiden - Virtual XI

These two albums attract so much disrespect, but they're both awesome. People don't like them just because it isn't Bruce.

[Hungryfreak]

Iron Maiden - Piece of Mind
Iron Maiden - Powerslave
Iron Maiden - Number of the Beast

None of which had their original singer :P

[BhindBluEyes430]

The Clash-The Clash(1977)
Topper diden't join till Give Em' Enough Rope

[WingsOfSteel]

The Division Bell - Pink Floyd

Gilmour's playing on this album is second only to Animals, and it's still pretty close.

[BhindBluEyes430]

The Division Bell - Pink Floyd

Gilmour's playing on this album is second only to Animals, and it's still pretty close.

pink floyd is tough because what do you consider classic
Syd-Barrett Era Or Non-Syd-Barrett era

[WingsOfSteel]

pink floyd is tough because what do you consider classic
Syd-Barrett Era Or Non-Syd-Barrett era

Personally, I consider the non-Syd Barrett era (i.e. the line-up for most of the 70s) to be the classic because that's where the vast majority of their big hits come from.

In that case, The Piper at the Gates of Dawn is also a fantastic album under a non-standard line-up.

[Rockbandfan23467]

Iron Maiden - Piece of Mind
Iron Maiden - Powerslave
Iron Maiden - Number of the Beast

None of which had their original singer :P

Original Lineup is not the same as Classic Lineup. Deep Purple's Classic Lineup is the second version, for example.

[Hungryfreak]

I know, I was just joking around. Thus the :P simley.

[Shredder87]

Testament's Low.

Didn't have one Alex Scholnick and one Louie Clemente.

One of their great songs to come out period in Trail of Tears.

[Bub]

i thought the thread was for GREAT albums, not poppy-overplayed radio-friendly bs

AC/DC is not even kinda poppy. I agree they do overplay a lot of songs from Back in Black but their not poppy. C'mon man it's a great album and I don't care what you think.

[Shredder87]

i thought the thread was for GREAT albums, not poppy-overplayed radio-friendly bs
Wait what?!

Hells Bells?!
Shoot To Thrill?!
Give The Dog A Bone?!
Rock And Roll Ain't Noise Pollution?!


WHAT?!

[Rockbandfan23467]

I guess Back in Black is the Greatest Non-Classic linup album.

[DarkSide247]

Bleach - Nirvana

Dave Grohl was not in this album, the drummers were Dale Crover and Chad Channing.

[a21schizoidman]

Wait what?!

Hells Bells?!
Shoot To Thrill?!
Give The Dog A Bone?!
Rock And Roll Ain't Noise Pollution?!


WHAT?!

i used to really love the album, but after hearing the songs so much, i just really listened to them, and well, they are boring (yeah, there are a few that arent) but like the songs Back in Black, Let Me Put My Love Into You, You Shook Me All Night Long are boring as hell, its basically Brian attempting to sing the entire song with Angus playing sparing little riffs and no rhythm section in almost the entire song

now listen to an album like my favorite, Powerage, its hard rock, the band is like a monster let loose, plain rock and roll with killer guitar, a good rhythm section, Bon singing his heart out, and the songs are songs to appreciate, not to sing with your friends when plastered

[Rockbandfan23467]

Also Brian Johnson sounds like Elmo (You know, the red Muppet) on Shoot to Thrill at the "Shoot You!" part.

[BhindBluEyes430]

but like the songs Back in Black, Let Me Put My Love Into You, You Shook Me All Night Long are boring as hell, its basically Brian attempting to sing the entire song with Angus playing sparing little riffs and no rhythm section in almost the entire song


Let Me Put My Love Into You is my favorite AC/DC song mostly for the lyrics and that Riff is just so awesome. its fun to play on a heavily distorted guitar and imagine playing it like townshend would have

[AxlVanHagar]

Having just heard the the lead off single from Black Ice I must say I was extremely impressed. Best thing they've done since Fro Those About To Rock. Sounds like it could have come from that record IMO. Brian sounds surprisingly good on it.

[OldFogey]

So if I understand this correctly, this is about bands that had an original, classic lineup and then later versions, and the later version produced a great album or two or .....

Let it Roll -- Little Feat (Craig Fuller replaces Lowell George)
Sticky Fingers, Exile on Main Street -- Rolling Stones (Mick Taylor replaces Brian Jones). Actually pretty much any of the albums with Mick on 'em.
Blues for Allah -- Grateful Dead (no Pig Pen)
Hotel California -- The Eagles (Joe Walsh replaces Bernie Leadon)
Time on Earth -- Crowded House (Matt Sherrod replaces Paul Hester)
Sweetheart of the Rodeo -- The Byrds (no Gene Clark or David Crosby, but Clarence White is added)

[OldFogey]

I guess Back in Black is the Greatest Non-Classic linup album.

Don't agree -- check my list. Stones, Byrds, and awesome albums from Little Feat and Grateful Dead....

[UneasyMonkey]

And Justice for All - Metallica
Burn - Deep Purple
Electric Ladyland - Jimi Hendrix (wasn't the Jimi Hendrix Experience with Mitch Mitchel)
Back in Black - AC/DC (I have to...it's still a good album)
Rush - Rush

[OldFogey]

Electric Ladyland - Jimi Hendrix (wasn't the Jimi Hendrix Experience with Mitch Mitchel)


:confused::confused: Check again -- it's the Experience

[Rockbandfan23467]

So if I understand this correctly, this is about bands that had an original, classic lineup and then later versions, and the later version produced a great album or two or .....

Let it Roll -- Little Feat (Craig Fuller replaces Lowell George)
Sticky Fingers, Exile on Main Street -- Rolling Stones (Mick Taylor replaces Brian Jones). Actually pretty much any of the albums with Mick on 'em.
Blues for Allah -- Grateful Dead (no Pig Pen)
Hotel California -- The Eagles (Joe Walsh replaces Bernie Leadon)
Time on Earth -- Crowded House (Matt Sherrod replaces Paul Hester)
Sweetheart of the Rodeo -- The Byrds (no Gene Clark or David Crosby, but Clarence White is added)

I wouldn't include Hotel California on that list, as Walsh is probably more associated with the Eagles than Bernie Leadon. An argument could be made wether Brain Jones or Mick Taylor is the "Classic" Stones guitarist. Classic Linups are not the same as original lineups.

[OldFogey]

I wouldn't include Hotel California on that list, as Walsh is probably more associated with the Eagles than Bernie Leadon. An argument could be made wether Brain Jones or Mick Taylor is the "Classic" Stones guitarist. Classic Linups are not the same as original lineups.

Always room for debate, BUT -- maybe to this generation Walsh is more associated with the Eagles, but not at the time. The Eagles were really well established when Joe joined. And Leadon was the founder, believe it or not, along with Meisner. It only became Frey and Henley's band over time.

Seems to me no doubt, though, that the Jones, Richards, Jagger, Wyman and Watts lineup is the classic Stones lineup. Not the best one, IMO, but definitely the one that established the band.

At any rate -- that's why I asked, because it seems to me you could make similar arguments for Metallica post-Burton or AC/DC post-Bon Scott.

[Shredder87]

At any rate -- that's why I asked, because it seems to me you could make similar arguments for Metallica post-Burton .....

Oh god no Fogey!!!! No one will ever make that argument!!!!! EVER!!!!
hahahaha

[OldFogey]

Oh god no Fogey!!!! No one will ever make that argument!!!!! EVER!!!!
hahahaha

LOL -- wasn't clear was I? I just meant when a band has more than one strong era, it gets a little crazy to talk about which one is the classic lineup. Maybe I should have said with Mustaine and after.

Probably bands that had different really strong eras weren't really what Axl meant, anyway -- I wasn't really sure.

[gusano311]

rhcps with navarro which honestly is my fav rhcp album but everybody hates it.

[sonicnerd23]

Cool Kids by Kix.

[AxlVanHagar]

At any rate -- that's why I asked, because it seems to me you could make similar arguments for Metallica post-Burton or AC/DC post-Bon Scott.

What Shredder said.:D

[AxlVanHagar]

Cool Kids by Kix.

Nice one! Also nice to see another Kix fan on the boards.

[UneasyMonkey]

:confused::confused: Check again -- it's the Experience

Oh yeah, sorry. I thought it was with that black drummer that played with him at Woodstock

[Bub]

rhcps with navarro which honestly is my fav rhcp album but everybody hates it.

I haven't heard anything off One Hot Minute so I can't disagree with you. Can you recommend me some songs from OHM?

[OldFogey]

What Shredder said.:D

Fair enough --

so -- to you, which is the classic lineup for:

The Rolling Stones
Deep Purple
The Eagles
The Grateful Dead

Or do some bands have more than one classic lineup?

[AxlVanHagar]

Fair enough --

so -- to you, which is the classic lineup for:

The Rolling Stones
Deep Purple
The Eagles
The Grateful Dead

Or do some bands have more than one classic lineup?


Well to me these would be

Deep Purple
Ritchie Blackmore
Ian Gillan
Roger Glover
Jon Lord
Ian Paice

The Stones
Mick Jagger
Keith Richards
Brian Jones
Charlie Watts
Bill Wyman

The Eagles
Glenn Frey
Don Henley
Bernie Leadon
Randy Meisner
Don Felder

Sorry I am in no way shape or form familair enough with the Dead to make an informed comment so I defer to your expertise on them.

Also just to clarify I was mostly making reference to Shred's comment on Cliff Burton in Metallica. Trying to be goofy but the interweb and text don't always make for the funny. I fail at the internet.

[OldFogey]

Well to me these would be

Deep Purple
Ritchie Blackmore
Ian Gillan
Roger Glover
Jon Lord
Ian Paice

The Stones
Mick Jagger
Keith Richards
Brian Jones
Charlie Watts
Bill Wyman

The Eagles
Glenn Frey
Don Henley
Bernie Leadon
Randy Meisner
Don Felder

Sorry I am in no way shape or form familair enough with the Dead to make an informed comment so I defer to your expertise on them.

Also just to clarify I was mostly making reference to Shred's comment on Cliff Burton in Metallica. Trying to be goofy but the interweb and text don't always make for the funny. I fail at the internet.

No problem about Metallica and Burton.

I think you're right about the above bands. For the Dead, to me the classic lineup is:

Garcia
Weir
Lesh
Pig Pen
Kreutzmann
Hart

Tom Constantine is an optional element.

I also like how for Deep Purple you didn't go with the original lineup but with the one that cemented that band's status.

[AxlVanHagar]

No problem about Metallica and Burton.

I think you're right about the above bands. For the Dead, to me the classic lineup is:

Garcia
Weir
Lesh
Pig Pen
Kreutzmann
Hart

Tom Constantine is an optional element.

I also like how for Deep Purple you didn't go with the original lineup but with the one that cemented that band's status.

I just call 'em the way I see 'em good sir!

[cdestey]

I actually think I enjoyed Anthrax - We've Come For You All more than White Noise, but that may have been because the albums in between were so mediocre.

[Rockbandfan23467]

Indeed, The Second Version of Deep Purple is the Classic version.

[OldFogey]

I just call 'em the way I see 'em good sir!

Cool. So if Axl and I agree on what are the classic lineups for the Stones, Dead and Eagles, I feel safe in repeating.

These are classic albums by non-classic lineups

Any Stones album with Mick Taylor on it, and possibly also Some Girls and Tattoo You
Blues For Allah and possibly From the Mars Hotel
Hotel California
The Byrds -- Younger Than Yesterday, Fifth Dimension and Sweetheart of the Rodeo

[AxlVanHagar]

Cool. So if Axl and I agree on what are the classic lineups for the Stones, Dead and Eagles, I feel safe in repeating.

These are classic albums by non-classic lineups

Any Stones album with Mick Taylor on it, and possibly also Some Girls and Tattoo You
Blues For Allah and possibly From the Mars Hotel
Hotel California


I would agree with all of those. I also agree with Back In Black being a good non classic album. Bon >>>> Brian

[Unbelievable21]

Opeth - Watershed
Smashing Pumpkins - Adore
Dream Theater - A Change of Seasons (You can go either way, Rudess or Moore, but neither were on this magnificent EP)
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Freaky Styley (Ditto. This didn't have all of the old lineup, nor did it have the new one)

[Rockbandfan23467]

^Which RHCP lineup is the "classic" one?

[kevmaster2000]

Living Colour - Stain
They Might Be Giants - John Henry
Dream Theater - Scenes from a Memory (although a lot of people would argue that they're currently in their "classic" lineup with Rudess... I might even argue that myself - I know it's one of the two)
Spock's Beard - Spock's Beard (not great, but quite good)
Faith No More - Introduce Yourself
Genesis - A Trick of the Tail (there are two very strong arguments for what was the classic lineup with this band, but I'm going with Gabriel, making this the dark horse)

[Unbelievable21]

^Which RHCP lineup is the "classic" one?

Well, I know a few people that consider it to be Anthony Keidis, Michael "Flea" Balzary (sp?), Hillel Slovak, and Jack Irons, even though they were only on one official album together (The Uplift Mofo Party Plan). But they were the original group before Slovak and Irons left for What is This? (I think that's correct. Can anyone approve this?), which was before their debut.

Some others consider it to be Anthony Keidis, Michael Balzary, Chad Smith, and John Frusciante, which is the line-up from 1989's Mother's Milk on, excluding 1995's One Hot Minute.

It all depends on the style of RHCP that you like best, I guess.

[OldFogey]

Question: which edition of Fleetwood Mac is the classic one?

(1967)
Peter Green - vocals, guitar
Jeremy Spencer - vocals, guitar
Bob Brunning - bass
Mick Fleetwood - drums
(After McVie refused to join the band, they decided to go on with Brunning, with the understanding if McVie changed his mind, Brunning was out.)

(1967-68)
Peter Green - vocals, guitar
Jeremy Spencer - vocals, guitar
John McVie - bass
Mick Fleetwood - drums
(1968-70)
Danny Kirwan - guitar, vocals
Peter Green - vocals, guitar
Jeremy Spencer - vocals, guitar
John McVie - bass
Mick Fleetwood - drums
(1970)
Danny Kirwan - guitar, vocals
Jeremy Spencer - vocals, guitar
John McVie - bass
Mick Fleetwood - drums
(1970-71)
Danny Kirwan - guitar, vocals
Jeremy Spencer - vocals, guitar
Christine McVie - keyboard, vocals
John McVie - bass
Mick Fleetwood - drums
(Peter Green filled-in on guitars for the remainder of the tour after Spencer abruptly quit the band.)

(1971-72)
Bob Welch - vocals, guitar
Danny Kirwan - guitar, vocals
Christine McVie - keyboard, vocals
John McVie - bass
Mick Fleetwood - drums
(1972-73)
Dave Walker - vocals
Bob Weston - guitar
Bob Welch - vocals, guitar
Christine McVie - keyboard, vocals
John McVie - bass
Mick Fleetwood - drums
(1973-74)
Bob Weston - guitar
Bob Welch - vocals, guitar
Christine McVie - keyboard, vocals
John McVie - bass
Mick Fleetwood - drums
(1974)
Bob Welch - vocals, guitar
Christine McVie - keyboard, vocals
John McVie - bass
Mick Fleetwood - drums
(1975-87)
Lindsey Buckingham - guitar, vocals
Stevie Nicks - vocals
Christine McVie - keyboard, vocals
John McVie - bass
Mick Fleetwood - drums

I take it anything after that is clearly not clssic.

Obviously it's the Buckingham-Nicks edition most folks know. But the Welch edition is the one that first had real commercial success. OTOH, to me, this is Peter Green's band, is the 68-70 version with Danny Kirwan on vocals and Pete handling the guitar work.

I'm willing to stake Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac as a great album by a non-classic lineup.

A great tune from this version of the band:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE4HGlmtOcg

And if the Welch lineup is not the classic one, then Bare Trees.

And of course Rumours makes the list if the Buckingham-Nicks edition is not the classic one.

Hard to think of another band that went through three such distinctly different eras that totally changed style and did so well in each of them.

[Rockbandfan23467]

Some bands have more Than One Classic Era (The Stones [well for me anyway]), but if I had to choose, I'd pick Buckingham-Nicks Linup as the Classic Lineup.

[OldFogey]

Some bands have more Than One Classic Era (The Stones [well for me anyway]), but if I had to choose, I'd pick Buckingham-Nicks Linup as the Classic Lineup.

Well to play the game we have to pick one.

I think Buckingham-Nicks is the one almost everyone associates with Fleetwood Mac.

So let's say Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac and Bare Trees are great albums by non-classic lineups.

[Lord_Mhoram]

I really hope to post in the affirmative in this thread in October when Queen + Paul Rogers "The Cosmos Rocks" comes out.

hope hope hope. :)

[Rockbandfan23467]

I really hope to post in the affirmative in this thread in October when Queen + Paul Rogers "The Cosmos Rocks" comes out.

hope hope hope. :)
Queen + Paul Rogers is a different Band from Queen.

[a21schizoidman]

(1967-68)
Peter Green - vocals, guitar
Jeremy Spencer - vocals, guitar
John McVie - bass
Mick Fleetwood - drums

(1972-73)
Dave Walker - vocals
Bob Weston - guitar
Bob Welch - vocals, guitar
Christine McVie - keyboard, vocals
John McVie - bass
Mick Fleetwood - drums

(1975-87)
Lindsey Buckingham - guitar, vocals
Stevie Nicks - vocals
Christine McVie - keyboard, vocals
John McVie - bass
Mick Fleetwood - drums



id say one of those 3, prolly the Welch one the most

[Ultimatum]

I think the entire Dio era of Sabbath was much better than Ozzy era.

[Lord_Mhoram]

Queen + Paul Rogers is a different Band from Queen.

:)

Yeah, I consider them a spinoff, like Brian or Roger solo, or The Cross.

[OldFogey]

id say one of those 3, prolly the Welch one the most

If it's a Peter Green era band, Kirwan has to be in it.

But I think RBF is probably right saying Buckingham-Nicks would generally be considered the "classic" lineup.

[Shredder87]

I think the entire Dio era of Sabbath was much better than Ozzy era.
Oh god no. You didn't just say that. Dio killed Sabbath!!!!!

[Ultimatum]

How did he kill Sabbath?

I'd say Tony Martin making Forbidden was what killed Sabbath.

When Dio joined, Ozzy was a drunken douche that wasn't contributing.

[Shredder87]

How did he kill Sabbath?

I'd say Tony Martin making Forbidden was what killed Sabbath.

When Dio joined, Ozzy was a drunken douche that wasn't contributing.
A drunken douche that was Sabbath. IT ISN'T SABBATH WITHOUT OZZY!!!!

It's like saying Slayer without Lombardo ruled. It didn't. At all. (Well God Send Death, Disciple, and Dittohead were sweet.)

[Ultimatum]

Wait, I forgot you had some sort of mini-vendetta against Dio XD

[Lord_Mhoram]

I think the entire Dio era of Sabbath was much better than Ozzy era.

I agree.

I also prefer Dio solo to Ozzy solo.

[AxlVanHagar]

I agree.

I also prefer Dio solo to Ozzy solo.

Agreed, always preferred the Dio era. I like the stuff with Ozz but prefer the Dio stuff. IMO the band had grown stale with Ozzy and Dio breathed some new life into them. Also he was/is able to write songs and is a far better singer. I think he opened Sabbath up musically and Tony and Geezer were able to open up more.

[Bowiefanperson]

Velvet Underground-Loaded

PinK Floyd- Dark side of the moon
Rolling Stones- Let it bleed

[Soror_YZBL]

Marillion - Brave
Skinny Puppy - Greater Wrong of the Right
Sisters of Mercy - Floodland
New Order - Movement (ok, 1st album, but made right after IC killed himself)
Nightwish - Dark Passion Play

[Rockbandfan23467]

Velvet Underground-Loaded

PinK Floyd- Dark side of the moonRolling Stones- Let it bleed

That was the Classic Linup (Roger, David, Rick, and Nick)

[SteelersFreak1]

i thought the thread was for GREAT albums, not poppy-overplayed radio-friendly bs

Are you kidding me with this? It's hardly poppy, just because it was popular doesn't mean it was poppy.

[Lord_Mhoram]

Marillion - Brave

Afraid of Sunlight as well.

[Rockbandfan23467]

Are you kidding me with this? It's hardly poppy, just because it was popular doesn't mean it was poppy.

Excatly! Just because a band is popular doesn't mean they are pop. Is Metallica Pop? Is Black Sabbath Pop? Is The Eagles Pop? Is Aerosmith Pop? Is Van Halen Pop? Is Led Zeppelin Pop?

Answer to all: NO!

[a21schizoidman]

Are you kidding me with this? It's hardly poppy, just because it was popular doesn't mean it was poppy.

popular music, pop music, and poppy sounding music are all different things

popular music is anything popular at some point in time
pop music is things like boy bands and britney spears and ****, where it is all studio magic and glamour and has little to do with actual music
poppy sounding music is music that is created to achieve radio-success, reach different audiences, and become catchier sounding music that usually detracts from the bands original and usually the band's true sound,
AC/DC did that with BiB, it is a poppy sounding album that takes away all their hard-rocking blues rock days of High Voltage, Let There Be Rock, and Powerage, and gives you these sparse music sections with screaming vocals with little room for showcasing the entire band's talent

[Rockbandfan23467]

pop music is things like boy bands and britney spears and ****, where it is all studio magic and glamour and has little to do with actual music


The Rolling Stones, ELO, Phil Collins era Genesis, Prince, Sting, Cat Stevens, and Rod Stewart say hi.

[a21schizoidman]

The Rolling Stones, ELO, Phil Collins era Genesis, Prince, Sting, Cat Stevens, and Rod Stewart say hi.

does anyone really care what you say anymore?

[Gargoyle2500]

pop music is things like boy bands and britney spears and ****, where it is all studio magic and glamour and has little to do with actual music

Britney what have you done to music (And our future?!?!?!?!)










:eek:








I'd have to say if that is considered pop, What has the world come to? (A Flock Of Seagulls and Duran Duran are better pop than what you heard)

[Soror_YZBL]

That was the Classic Linup (Roger, David, Rick, and Nick)

Oh NO! there's no Sid!

[Rockbandfan23467]

Oh NO! there's no Sid!

That's because the original linup is not the same as the classic lineup. Syd was only on the first album anyway.

[afterstasis]

That's because the original linup is not the same as the classic lineup. Syd was only on the first album anyway.

he's also on "a saucerful of secrets".

[Rockbandfan23467]

he's also on "a saucerful of secrets".

Yes but it was only a song or two.

[Soror_YZBL]

That's because the original linup is not the same as the classic lineup. Syd was only on the first album anyway.

Some of us consider with Syd to be the classic lineup. :) We're wrong of course, but Floyd with Syd Barrett was amazing. It took waters until dark side of the moon to equal what syd could do with a couple tabs of acid.

[martin_swe]

Judas Priest - Jugulator (without Rob). Great album, great singer (Ripper).

[Ultimatum]

Ripper ran JP into the ground IMO

[TakeABow]

Radiohead - Kid A. They didn't change their lineup per-se, but they did switch instrumentation around quite a bit.

Also King Crimson - In The Wake Of Poseidon.

[Parodygm]

^Which RHCP lineup is the "classic" one?

I would have said Kiedis-Flea-Slovak-Irons, but no-one else will. Undoubtedly the one that will be considered the classic lineup is Kiedis-Flea-Frusciante-Smith.

So, on that basis I submit The Uplift Mofo Party Plan as their best non-classic lineup album.

[Bowiefanperson]

That was the Classic Linup (Roger, David, Rick, and Nick)

umm no. Syd Barret already left dude. you must not be a very big pink floyd fan.

[Bowiefanperson]

Some of us consider with Syd to be the classic lineup. :) We're wrong of course, but Floyd with Syd Barrett was amazing. It took waters until dark side of the moon to equal what syd could do with a couple tabs of acid.

and how are we wrong. it was the original lineup.

[Bowiefanperson]

Yes but it was only a song or two.

well he probably played on more songs then that though. he only wrote 1 song on the second album.

[Rockbandfan23467]

umm no. Syd Barret already left dude. you must not be a very big pink floyd fan.

Syd Barret is not Part of The Classic Lineup!

[Bowiefanperson]

Syd Barret is not Part of The Classic Lineup!

and what's the logic in that

[gusano311]

for the guy that bsaid i though it was the black guy that palyed at woodstock with jimi. wrong mitch was there and billy cox was bass along with a hormn section. crappy editing made you think it was a solo show.

[Rockbandfan23467]

and what's the logic in that

DSOTM, WYWH, and The Wall all lack him, and those are what everyone associates Pink Floyd With. By your logic Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac is The Classic Linup, when it's obviously Buckingham-Nicks.

[Bowiefanperson]

DSOTM, WYWH, and The Wall all lack him, and those are what everyone associates Pink Floyd With. By your logic Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac is The Classic Linup, when it's obviously Buckingham-Nicks.

umm well yea. and plenty of people associate Pink Floyd with Piper. it's just idiots that say they like pink floyd because they play 5 pink floyd songs over and over again on classic rock radio. the same people that think Lou Reed's first solo album was transformers and that David Bowie's first album was space oddity.

[a21schizoidman]

DSOTM, WYWH, and The Wall all lack him, and those are what everyone associates Pink Floyd With. By your logic Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac is The Classic Linup, when it's obviously Buckingham-Nicks.

dude, get yourself a bong, then get off these forums, its ppl like you that make me want to follow your IP address to find where you truly live, and beat the living crap out of you

[Rockbandfan23467]

dude, get yourself a bong, then get off these forums, its ppl like you that make me want to follow your IP address to find where you truly live, and beat the living crap out of you

Why do you hate the fact that someone can have a different opionion than you?

[a21schizoidman]

Why do you hate the fact that someone can have a different opionion than you?

its not that, its that you for some reason feel obligated to argue with EVERYONE on these forums, and I am sure I am not the only one here to see this by now

[Shredder87]

Syd Barret is not Part of The Classic Lineup!
Dude, don't force the issue on people man. Chill out dude!!!!







...but I do consider Pink Floyd with David Gilmore to be the "Classic"

^Edit.
I looks like he goes with information with what the majority agrees with, hence why he's forcing the issue on Sid not being the "Classic". It's like me saying Paul DiAnno is part of the classic Maiden(The one I dig) along with Clive Burr, but, like the majority, are going to argue that Bruce in the band is the classic, along with Nicko.