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drummin1243
11-15-2007, 01:14 PM
Hi I play the drums in real life and I wanted to know if rock band would support drummers who are open handed.(I usually use my left hand on the high hat and my right on the snare.)Can someone tell me. If it inst then I'm not gonna buy the game :(
If its not then im gunna be pissed lol:mad:

tmanrocks
11-15-2007, 01:18 PM
Yes you can drum open handed if you want

IUGCtim
11-15-2007, 01:19 PM
Im pretty sure youll be fine, theres a lefty flip option and you could prolly figure it regular out ok, the hight is the only prob.

SoraRikuVGM
11-15-2007, 01:29 PM
Isn't lefty for people who play crossed?

drummin1243
11-15-2007, 01:42 PM
Isn't lefty for people who play crossed?
On real drum people who are righty usualy play crossed. It up to really you what style you play the drums. A lot of lefties usualy play crossed and have the drumset switched around too but some people like me perfer to play open handed. There are people who are righty who play crossed. It really up to the way you want to play.

drummin1243
11-15-2007, 01:43 PM
On real drum people who are righty usualy play crossed. It up to really you what style you play the drums. A lot of lefties usualy play crossed and have the drumset switched around too but some people like me perfer to play open handed. There are people who are righty who play crossed. It really up to the way you want to play.
Im just hoping that it will support open handed drumming

EliteXFactor
11-15-2007, 01:45 PM
What you need is a lefty flip.

tormentedbyu
11-15-2007, 01:48 PM
What you need is a lefty flip.

And some drugs.

...Or maybe just lefty flip.

SoraRikuVGM
11-15-2007, 02:06 PM
Course it will support open hand in that case. Look at ALL the videos. People (including Alex) play with the Righty and open handed.

dylan13
11-15-2007, 02:14 PM
im going to try the lefty flip at least once lol

SoraRikuVGM
11-15-2007, 02:17 PM
im going to try the lefty flip at least once lol

It won't be a huge change like it is for guitar.

masterx1918
11-15-2007, 02:18 PM
yeah the drum set was designed for open hand drumming

masterx1918
11-15-2007, 02:20 PM
I think lefty flip will be a fun change imho. It wil be like sitting down at a new drum set almost.

IUGCtim
11-15-2007, 02:21 PM
Course it will support open hand in that case. Look at ALL the videos. People (including Alex) play with the Righty and open handed.

I dont think that is open hand my friend most people including myself use the left hand on the snare (RED) and the right hand on the hi hat (YELLOW)

SoraRikuVGM
11-15-2007, 02:35 PM
I dont think that is open hand my friend most people including myself use the left hand on the snare (RED) and the right hand on the hi hat (YELLOW)

That is open hand, if I'm not mistaken.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3f/Rockband-drumset.jpg

IUGCtim
11-15-2007, 02:41 PM
open hand would be left hand on hi hat(yellow) and right hand on snare (red)

unched
11-15-2007, 02:45 PM
I think open-handed would be if the red drum represented the hi-hat and the yellow was the snare. Then you used your left hand to play hi-hat (red) and right hand to play snare (yellow).

It looks open-handed in the videos b/c you don't cross your arms to play the rock band drums, BUT you're still using your right hand to play the "hi-hat" just like most drummers do on a real kit. Playing on the rock band drums with your arms crossed would probably be pretty awkward b/c the pads are all at the same height.

IUGCtim
11-15-2007, 02:47 PM
which comes back to my comment about height, thats gonn be your trouble but you could try it.

SoraRikuVGM
11-15-2007, 02:50 PM
My mistake, I thought open hand meant no crossing, which by your description, there is crossing.

(That wasn't sarcastic, I was being serious)

drummin1243
11-15-2007, 02:53 PM
Course it will support open hand in that case. Look at ALL the videos. People (including Alex) play with the Righty and open handed.
I play open handed leftey though. that is the problem

drumkid92
11-15-2007, 02:56 PM
i dont see how people play open handed. its way too akward for me and i need to play crossed.

deepbluevibes
11-16-2007, 07:03 AM
the game absolutely does not support cross-handed drumming for right-handed players.

The snare is on the far left pad, and the hi-hat is on the next one over.

Lefty flip just puts the snare on the far right pad, with the hi-hat on the pad 1 over from the right; you'd be doing a reverse-cross, which is for left-handed players, and would not help a cross-handed right hand player (the way that 95% of right handed drummers on real drumsets play) on the drums.

Thus, you are stuck with using your right hand for hi-hat and left hand for snare, but open-handed, if you're right-handed, and lefty flip just makes things worse. (i've tried this on the demo consoles, if you're wondering.)

Bakkster
11-16-2007, 07:14 AM
the game absolutely does not support cross-handed drumming for right-handed players.

Shouldn't this be the other way around? My understanding is the pads are mapped the way a cross-handed player would play, but open handed to keep your arms from hitting each other. AKA, you still play hi-hat and snare with the same hands, you just uncross your arms.

If you are talking about physically crossing your arms to play RB, then yes, you're going to have problems (mainly from pad height), but it seems like that's an easier transition (uncross your arms) than for the OP (change which hand is playing hi-hat).

TBH, I've never seen an open-handed lefty like the OP described. They can't be that common, can they?

Smidget
11-16-2007, 07:24 AM
If you are talking about physically crossing your arms to play RB, then yes, you're going to have problems (mainly from pad height), but it seems like that's an easier transition (uncross your arms) than for the OP (change which hand is playing hi-hat).

easy as pie, apple pie....

deepbluevibes
11-16-2007, 08:08 AM
Shouldn't this be the other way around? My understanding is the pads are mapped the way a cross-handed player would play, but open handed to keep your arms from hitting each other. AKA, you still play hi-hat and snare with the same hands, you just uncross your arms.

If you are talking about physically crossing your arms to play RB, then yes, you're going to have problems (mainly from pad height), but it seems like that's an easier transition (uncross your arms) than for the OP (change which hand is playing hi-hat).

TBH, I've never seen an open-handed lefty like the OP described. They can't be that common, can they?

The main thing is, crossing your arms is a big thing.

Say i'm playing cross handed and I want to go do a roll on the two toms. All I have to do is uncross my right arm, use it for the first hit on the first tom, then my left arm follows (which at this point is behind my right arm) and does the next hit, and so on.

If your arms are open, but you're still hitting the hi-hat/snare with your original arms, it makes rolls that much harder (personally, from real life drum experience; it may not affect people who don't play drums). A better method/option I think would have been to allow the ability to reverse the placement of the hi-hat/snare notes; that would make things a LOT easier.

vtjustinb
11-16-2007, 08:25 AM
If your arms are open, but you're still hitting the hi-hat/snare with your original arms, it makes rolls that much harder (personally, from real life drum experience; it may not affect people who don't play drums). A better method/option I think would have been to allow the ability to reverse the placement of the hi-hat/snare notes; that would make things a LOT easier.

If you have any inking of real life drum experience it shouldn't make a big difference at all. Your argument seems to be that it's easier to move to a tom with a crossed setup because your left hand is out of the way, but that doesn't make a difference in Rock Band because your hi-hat is the second pad. So in the same pattern (2 tom hits) you simply move your right hand from pad 2 to pad 3, then your left hand from pad 1 to pad 3. There's simply no difference in the two other than the possible angle of approach--unless you chose to start the fill with your left hand, which I don't know why you would in the first place.

To answer the OP's question, no unfortunately the game doesn't support open hi-hat playing in the traditional sense. The far left pad is snare not hi-hat, so you'll have to play hi-hat with a right-hand lead. Your only other option is to lefty flip and play as a lefty, but then your fills will have to be left-hand lead too or you'll get crossed up.

The only time the left/rightmost pad is used for hi-hat is when there's a song with a lot of 16th notes on the hi-hat, like Orange Crush, so that it's not awkward to leave the hi-hat for snare hits.