SLIPKNOT FOR RB (Official Thread) #2

[JMP5]

Well the other Slipknot for RB thread got locked because of all the fighting so I am creating this 1. Slipknot does deserve to have a thread on the RB forums Ultimate Setlist. HMXHenry, I know why you closed the other thread and Im sure you and all the other mods are fed up with all the bickering. But, there is now a locked thread that Slipknot FANS cant use to promote and discuss a band they like. And there is still a thread open that says "Official we Do Not want Slipknot" and to me that doesnt seem right. Anyway, where are all the Slipknot Supporters?

[Snitsky]

I would like Slipknot DLC for RB

New songs only though basically they are like 1,000,000X better than their older songs

Psychosocial
All hope is gone
Sulfur

That would be a nice 3 pack for RB

[PatsFan103082]

I think Slipknot would be good in RB if they picked the right songs. There isnt a huge list that would work,but I think 3-6 is possible.

[JMP5]

I would like Slipknot DLC for RB

New songs only though basically they are like 1,000,000X better than their older songs

Psychosocial
All hope is gone
Sulfur

That would be a nice 3 pack for RB

All really good choices on the new cd.
I would love to play RB drums for All Hope Is Gone, Im sure it would be a really cool chart!

This is just my opinion but I dont think all the new songs are way better than the older. I personally think some of their older stuff is alot better. but I like all their cds in general.

[Snitsky]

All really good choices on the new cd.
I would love to play RB drums for All Hope Is Gone, Im sure it would be a really cool chart!

I'm an expert drummer and uhhh

Have fun failing that song lol

If "All hope is gone" gets put in RB everyone but the absolute best drummers will have to play it in practice or on a tard lower difficulty because certain parts of the song just = not happening on the RB drums lol

More specifically

0:34 - 0:51 in the song

He does that bit ALOT and for some reason parts like that on RB just don't work for me even though they aren't hard for real lol

[bmcorrier]

I'm all for Slipknot in RB. I'd love it.

but...prepare for people to start tearing this thread down just like the rest.

[afterstasis]

though i don't like slipknot you have my support in keeping a civilized and at least semi-productive thread.
perhaps hell has frozen over and both sides can keep it clean this time around.

[instantdeath999]

For gods sake guys, keep this one civil.

[Hastyl3]

I still thinks Slipknot is the sux. But, let's just not use "brutal" anymore, that just annoys the ****s out of me.

[Oscar-Rio]

slipknot was good on their debut album...everything after that was just formulas.

[Unbelievable21]

I would L O V E to T R Y and sing along to Scissors, with the ending and all! Maybe even add the whole throwing up part in, just for good measure. ;)

Although not necessarily my absolute favorite tracks from them (although some are), I would love to play:

The NaMeLeSs
Sulfur
Psychosocial
Eyeless
Wait and Bleed
Three Nil
Pulse of the Maggots
(Keep in mind, I don't have Iowa yet, so no recommendations from that)

Although, the only songs I really don't care for are the two bonus songs from All Hope is Gone, and the title track to some extent. So, pretty much anything would be fine by me! :D

[Grinnz]

I need to get the new CD but off of Vol 3 I would like:
Duality
Before I Forget (better charted than Neversoft's crap most likely)
The Blister Exists
The Nameless

[Hastyl3]

But, seriously, just refrain from using the following annoying terms: "YOU'RE 555 I'M 666!", "MAGGOT 4 LYFE", and "SIC". That's how you'll be able to avoid a flamefest.

[Rev0lver]

IM A MAGGOT 4 LIFE!

see, i used an "i" instead of a "y" for life.

[Zeleii]

Seriously how hard could Slipknot be to sing... seriously it sounds like there is little to no pitch variation making them all talkies. Which are fixed in RB2 except for one in One Way or Another

Want hard to sing metal?

Maiden, Judas Priest,
Mastodon (Listen to the choruses in some stuff off Blood Mountain those are some pretty ****ed up scales)
Megadeth

Not to mention all probably have songs that would be more fun to play in a game like RB

[JMP5]

Seriously how hard could Slipknot be to sing... seriously it sounds like there is little to no pitch variation making them all talkies. Which are fixed in RB2 except for one in One Way or Another

Want hard to sing metal?

Maiden, Judas Priest,
Mastodon (Listen to the choruses in some stuff off Blood Mountain those are some pretty ****ed up scales)
Megadeth

Not to mention all probably have songs that would be more fun to play in a game like RB

Who said or posted anything about Singing? and youre probably right, most of it would be talkie parts. but, corey does actually Sing in some Slipknot songs.

[Unbelievable21]

Seriously how hard could Slipknot be to sing... seriously it sounds like there is little to no pitch variation making them all talkies. Which are fixed in RB2 except for one in One Way or Another

Want hard to sing metal?

Maiden, Judas Priest,
Mastodon (Listen to the choruses in some stuff off Blood Mountain those are some pretty ****ed up scales)
Megadeth

Not to mention all probably have songs that would be more fun to play in a game like RB

How hard is it to sing to the Beastie Boys?

[JMP5]

Zeleii, I do realize that someone else mentioned singing a few posts up. so just dissregard that.

[mdh13192]

Psychosocial would be awesome to play the guitar for, i've only heard the song 2 times and it's been stuck in my head.
oh and.. THE NEW MASKS are awesome, you guys seen them?

[BuRn7 CaK3]

You Do Realize there is a actual Band called "The Maggots" (i saw it today at Best Buy).

anyhoo, i'd like some slipknot here.

[comptonst]

To show my support for this thread and because I as a huge Slipknot fan have been begging for Slipknot DLC:

Wait and Bleed
The Blister Exists
Duality
The nameless
Vermilion
Psychosocial
Sulfur
Gematria
Gehenna
Vendetta
This Cold Black

[Unbelievable21]

Sulfur! :mad:


...:p

Oh, and there's only one 'l' in Vermilion, as well.
Sorry, it's an pet peeve of mine.

[Ultimatum]

Believe it or not, I was the one of the people that wanted the previous one locked.

I understand if you get defensive when we say bad things about your band, but don't go around posting downright ignorant crap that just isn't true.

[Ultimatum]

Who said or posted anything about Singing? and youre probably right, most of it would be talkie parts. but, corey does actually Sing in some Slipknot songs.

He sings, but rarely ever varies pitch.

[Zeleii]

How hard is it to sing to the Beastie Boys?

Incredibly simple... where the **** did I mention the Beastie Boys?

[keith921]

Slipknot please!

[iron4ever]

Seriously how hard could Slipknot be to sing... seriously it sounds like there is little to no pitch variation making them all talkies. Which are fixed in RB2 except for one in One Way or Another

Want hard to sing metal?

Maiden, Judas Priest,
Mastodon (Listen to the choruses in some stuff off Blood Mountain those are some pretty ****ed up scales)
Megadeth

Not to mention all probably have songs that would be more fun to play in a game like RB

The new album has a few real singing tracks not just typical Slipknot. Its pretty good stuff
all for Slipknot in RB

[Zeleii]

The new album has a few real singing tracks not just typical Slipknot. Its pretty good stuff
all for Slipknot in RB

And guess what?

Wait for it...

Slipknot still sucks.

[MindFreak316]

Psychosocial
Dead Memories
Duality
Before I Forget
Left Behind

[Kelvis]

Believe it or not, I was the one of the people that wanted the previous one locked.

Wouldn't you just have been better off not reading the thread (when all you had to say *repeatedly* was how much you didn't like the band)? I noticed that there was a thread titled 'Official we do NOT want Slipknot in RB'....Yet you didn't post anything in that one...Not enough fans to troll there?


I understand if you get defensive when we say bad things about your band, but don't go around posting downright ignorant crap that just isn't true.

What, crap that just isn't true like: "the fact that James can't sing or Lars can't stay in time"? Argue about not hitting marks as much as you like, the mods spotted you trying to pass this opinion as 'fact'.

Slipknot haters - the Slipknot fans created this thread so that fans of the band could talk about their faves. Why not just leave them to it?

Or do you just want to rain on the Slipknot fans' parade some more?

[Barrack Odrama]

I'd like some slipknot for dlc

Psycho Social
Before I forget

[Rev0lver]

What, crap that just isn't true like: "the fact that James can't sing or Lars can't stay in time"? Argue about not hitting marks as much as you like, the mods spotted you trying to pass this opinion as 'fact'.


You still can't figure out that playing on time cannot be opinionated?

[Unbelievable21]

Incredibly simple... where the **** did I mention the Beastie Boys?

You didn't, I did. Was referring to how the Beastie Boys are incredibly easy to sing along to, yet... Wait for it...


THEY ARE IN THE GAME.


Jesus Christ. I like these forums, I really do. But a huge portion of you guys are convinced that there are no such things as opinions or taste, and that the ONLY thing that is right in the world is what you believe is right. Everything and everyone else can just go to hell, right?

[BuRn7 CaK3]

You Guys Just can't keep away can't you?

I Think you guys spend more time in here Arguing about one band, than going to other threads about band's you do like.

Come on, Get a Grip on yourself. Please!

[Ultimatum]

What, crap that just isn't true like: "the fact that James can't sing or Lars can't stay in time"? Argue about not hitting marks as much as you like, the mods spotted you trying to pass this opinion as 'fact'.

Slipknot haters - the Slipknot fans created this thread so that fans of the band could talk about their faves. Why not just leave them to it?

Or do you just want to rain on the Slipknot fans' parade some more?

I got it locked because people were perpetuating stupid crap like "Staying on time is a matter of opinion."

[Skode]

Im only surprised weve not seen any Slipknot DLC yet given the amount of plugging theyve been doing as of late for there new album, i personally think there great and would be ideal for this game in everyway cept the sheer members of the band there is and the different instruments they play all being put into only 4 tracks for a game like this.

Oh and should they appear i hope HMX have mercy and dont have another fake "Bruce Dickinson" moment and have Corey playing the tambourine at any point during there tracks.

[Ultimatum]

That's because SlipKnoT hates rhythm games.

[Zeleii]

You didn't, I did. Was referring to how the Beastie Boys are incredibly easy to sing along to, yet... Wait for it...


THEY ARE IN THE GAME.


Jesus Christ. I like these forums, I really do. But a huge portion of you guys are convinced that there are no such things as opinions or taste, and that the ONLY thing that is right in the world is what you believe is right. Everything and everyone else can just go to hell, right?
And I never said that it wouldnt work because of that ****ing moron. It's Slipknot fans that make metalheads look complete tards.

I mean I went to Psychosocial Full length video on YouTube and the person said "Slipknot is the greatest band ever" I respond "You don't listen to much music do you" and then procedes to respond "IF YOU WERE A TRUE MAGGOT YOU WOULDNT SAY SLIPKNOT WAS BAD AND THEY SOLD OUT"

I lol'd HARD

I just said Slipknot WOULD NOT BE HARD TO SING because you said SLIPKNOT WOULD BE HARD TO SING..

[Unbelievable21]

And I never said that it wouldnt work because of that ****ing moron. It's Slipknot fans that make metalheads look complete tards.
...
I just said Slipknot WOULD NOT BE HARD TO SING because you said SLIPKNOT WOULD BE HARD TO SING..

...Right. Because falsely quoting me makes me the moron. I said a certain song would be hard to sing, because at the end he sounds like he's throwing up, and that probably isn't the easiest thing to emulate. But, of course, you wouldn't know that. What the hell was I thinking, talking about a Slipknot song in a Slipknot thread and expecting people to know what I was talking about. Honestly. What the **** was I thinking? I have no idea...

And I know you didn't say that. You said:


Seriously how hard could Slipknot be to sing... seriously it sounds like there is little to no pitch variation making them all talkies.

I was merely pointing out that not every ****ing song is about the vocals. People could have fun, you know, playing the other instruments given. But who the hell wants to do that?



**** it. Whatever. You win. You are right, I am wrong. Happy?
Great. Now get the **** out of the thread.

[Skode]

That's because SlipKnoT hates rhythm games.

Yet they appeared in Guitar Hero III

[slipknotjrw1993]

i would love to have at least one slipknot song on RB

[slipknotjrw1993]

i would love to see at least one slipknot song on RB

[JMP5]

thanks to all the fans for the support so far.

[SlipknotDave666]

This is what this game needs, some slipknot, they need:

Before I Forget
Psychosocial
The Nameless
All Hope is Gone
Gehenna
Vermilion and PT. 2
Duality

And in my opinion i would like to see butchers hook and dead memories and some more of the older stuff especially off of Iowa .

well thats what i feel should be on there, and i hope they at least put one song on this game or im going to be pretty pissed cause ive been waiting for one for a long time.....

[Ultimatum]

Yet they appeared in Guitar Hero III

Yeah, that was what made them hate the games. IIRC, someone on this board sent them an email and responded (this is a summed up version) with "...we hate rhythm games..."

The terrible charting in GH3 and the legions of fans liking only that one song made them dislike these games.

[instantdeath999]

Yeah, that was what made them hate the games. IIRC, someone on this board sent them an email and responded (this is a summed up version) with "...we hate rhythm games..."

The terrible charting in GH3 and the legions of fans liking only that one song made them dislike these games.

Is there a source for this? Honestly, I don't care whether they hate them or not, I'm just curious.

[Ultimatum]

It was in the original thread, but it was buried pretty deep in there.

[comptonst]

Sulfur! :mad:


...:p

Oh, and there's only one 'l' in Vermilion, as well.
Sorry, it's an pet peeve of mine.

Fixed, my bad I was typing too fast.

[comptonst]

Im only surprised weve not seen any Slipknot DLC yet given the amount of plugging theyve been doing as of late for there new album, i personally think there great and would be ideal for this game in everyway cept the sheer members of the band there is and the different instruments they play all being put into only 4 tracks for a game like this.

Oh and should they appear i hope HMX have mercy and dont have another fake "Bruce Dickinson" moment and have Corey playing the tambourine at any point during there tracks.

They could just chart Coreys, Micks, Joeys, and James parts in the songs.

[Kelvis]

You still can't figure out that playing on time cannot be opinionated?


people were perpetuating stupid crap like "Staying on time is a matter of opinion."

Jebus & lolz. No, 'staying on time' is not a matter of opinion and I never claimed such - having been a guitarist for 29 years - I started at age 8 - (pro for more than a few of them, including two albums worth of studio recording time and years of home recording), I'm quite aware of this 'fact'.


does that hide the fact that James can't sing or Lars can't stay in time?

Claiming an individual can't stay on time *as* fact, is opinion - do you see the difference?


I've seen Metallica live a couple of times in person - I've watched a few live videos of them, and of course listened to their albums. In each instance (and perhaps I've just been incredibly lucky!), I've not heard James Hetfield's voice 'crack' nor heard Lars Ulrich 'lose time'.

However; During Queen concerts, I've heard Freddie Mercury's voice crack on more than one occasion - according to your logic, this means it's a fact Freddie Mercury can't sing. Try arguing that with Queen fans.


Oh: Here's the question from the same post you didn't answer:


Slipknot haters - the Slipknot fans created this thread so that fans of the band could talk about their faves. Why not just leave them to it?

Or do you just want to rain on the Slipknot fans' parade some more?

[Rev0lver]

This is a question I answered(Ultimatum can answer too of course, since it's directed towards him, but here's my take on it) on the first thread, but for some reason it got deleted.

The reason we find it necessary to explain why a band sucks is to show why they shouldn't be in Rock Band in-game or as DLC. They would be taking the spot of a band that is actually good. It has been explained countless times why Slipknot would be no good for this game, and why they are terrible musicians. It is also helpful to explain these things to the hxc rebellious teenagers who think they're cool because they listen to Slipknot, and show them that there is other music that is far superior.

edit: claiming an individual can't stay on time as fact is a fact(as long as it is backed up with evidence). there's no possible way to opinionate this, no matter what way you look at it. and with Queen, Freddie Mercury must hit a MUCH wider range of notes than Hetfield, whom shouts more than sings, and if his voice cracks in the small amount of time he spends singing, that isn't very good at all.

[MindFreak316]

The reason we find it necessary to explain why a band sucks is to show why they shouldn't be in Rock Band in-game or as DLC.

Right!

So you've already done that!

What's the need to go on and on and on and on about it? You guys made it clear that you don't like Slipknot so whats the need to keep going on about it? And the fact that Ultimatum has been in the previous Slipknot thread complaining since May is pretty sad.




They would be taking the spot of a band that is actually good.

Says who?

You?

Oh right, so if it's a band that you don't like then that means they aren't good or they shouldn't be included in the game? Shut up!



It has been explained countless times why Slipknot would be no good for this game, and why they are terrible musicians.

That comment is just pure ignorance rather than anything else. Also, saying that they are "terrible musicians" is opinion and isn't fact. If you read the previous posts you would see that there seems to be some confusion with certain people (Ultimatum and others) not knowing the difference between opinion and fact.

[Rev0lver]

Musicianship is based on certain criteria, such as songwriting and how technical the guitar/bass/drums are, not how catchy you think they are or how rebellious they make you feel. This isn't opinion at all. If you listened to something outside the **** slipknot puts out, you might notice this. What I have been trying to do is get people to listen to some talented bands, but, as shown above, they keep blasting these songs about maggots and continue ignorant posts.

[Unbelievable21]

Musicianship is based on certain criteria, such as songwriting and how technical the guitar/bass/drums are, not how catchy you think they are or how rebellious they make you feel. This isn't opinion at all. If you listened to something outside the **** slipknot puts out, you might notice this. What I have been trying to do is get people to listen to some talented bands, but, as shown above, they keep blasting these songs about maggots and continue ignorant posts.


I listen to:

Red Hot Chili Peppers
Pearl Jam
Smashing Pumpkins
Dream Theater
Opeth
Rush
Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Dark Tranquillity
Iced Earth
Hammers of Misfortune
Metallica
Minsk
Motorhead
Porcupine Tree
Stone Temple Pilots
Disturbed
Priestess
Stone Sour

...AND Slipknot. What does that say about me?


And, keep in mind that this IS a Slipknot thread, so chances are that is what they are going to talk about. They have every right to.

[Rev0lver]

...AND Slipknot. What does that say about me?


And by how much do you prefer Slipknot to the bands mentioned?

[RipCityXX1]

i think that is the most ridiculous forum ever... i mean wtf? aren't we here to enjoy music and just ****ing ask songs so we can play them on a VIDEO GAME FOR CHRIST'S SAKE! Instead you just beef each other about a band wich has good songs but is really repetetive...

[Ultimatum]

Jebus & lolz. No, 'staying on time' is not a matter of opinion and I never claimed such - having been a guitarist for 29 years - I started at age 8 - (pro for more than a few of them, including two albums worth of studio recording time and years of home recording), I'm quite aware of this 'fact'.



Claiming an individual can't stay on time *as* fact, is opinion - do you see the difference?

That is in direct contradiction with the above.

You can't opinionate whether an individual is on time or not.

[Ultimatum]

I listen to:

Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Dark Tranquillity
Iced Earth

...AND Slipknot. What does that say about me?

Edited to reflect non-mainstream bands that have talent.

Godspeed is debatable, they're one of the most well-known of all Post-Rock bands.

[afterstasis]

Edited to reflect non-mainstream bands that have talent.

Godspeed is debatable, they're one of the most well-known of all Post-Rock bands.

you don't like minsk or hammers of misfortune?

[Ultimatum]

Haven't heard Minsk and I listened to HoM a while back and can't remember by specific reasons for disliking them.

[Unbelievable21]

And by how much do you prefer Slipknot to the bands mentioned?

It all depends on the day. Some days, I want something more 'energetic', and I'll put on something like Slipknot's Spit it Out (and go through the rest of the album or collection).
Other days, I want something more 'soothing', and I'll put on GY!BE's Sleep (and go through the rest of Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven).

I've only recently been getting into Slipknot, although as of the past couple days I've been hooked on GY!BE's LYSFLATH.

Oh, and I've been into DT, Opeth, and the Smashing Pumpkins the most as of late (the past year or so), but like I said, I only got into Slipknot a few weeks before All Hope is Gone was released.

And no, I won't say they are up there with Dream Theater, Opeth, the Smashing Pumpkins, the Red Hot Chili Peppers, or Pearl Jam, but they are definitely one of the more addicting bands I've run into recently (meaning I've listened to an album(s) of theirs for more than just a week or so).



...Yeah, I kinda went all around the place on that post, but I was just making sure I answered the question correctly in some part of that post.
...Did I?




Oh, and Minsk is a Doom Metal band from the likes of Neurosis. And would you really consider Porcupine Tree mainstream (or do you just not like them)? Huh. I can't say I agree, but I guess it doesn't really make a difference (it doesn't change my view of the band or their music, so whatever).

[BuRn7 CaK3]

what is up with all the freaking arguing in this thread. it seems like for every 1 post about how someone wants slipknot, there's 20 other posts saying their taste in music is terrible. Cant you all just grow up and stop complaining all the damn time?

[BuRn7 CaK3]

Musicianship is based on certain criteria, such as songwriting and how technical the guitar/bass/drums are, not how catchy you think they are or how rebellious they make you feel. This isn't opinion at all. If you listened to something outside the **** slipknot puts out, you might notice this. What I have been trying to do is get people to listen to some talented bands, but, as shown above, they keep blasting these songs about maggots and continue ignorant posts.

The bands i do listen to.

Audioslave
Chris Cornell (his solo stuff)
Avenged Sevenfold
Boston
Bon Jovi
Breaking Benjamin
Disturbed
Evanescence
Apocalyptica
HURT
Linkin Park
Lostprophets
KoRn (Older KoRn)
Muse
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Seether
Shinedown
Stone Sour
System of a Down
..... and Slipknot.

now im not a huge slipknot fan. I'd Prefer Stone Sour over Slipknot, but those 2 bands sound nothing alike (instrumental wise). Of course, there's other bands i do listen to. But those are the ones it do listen to alot.

Now With Linkin Park... I Started to like Linkin Park when i was 12. Which does sound about right for how aged their fans are (BTW im 18). Not alot of people like them, which is fine. They are changing. They plan to release another album next year, and its a follow up to Minutes to Midnight. Now it seems that they can get out of one thing and experiment on different things. The Whole "Technology" thing is pretty much out of them.

Now with slipknot, they (out of all i've heard) really haven't Changed. Which is bad. They have Fast Drums, Down-Tuned Guitars. it doesn't make them the best. but they are a different thing to listen to once in a while. Especially for me. (as you can tell)

Im not going to say "Your Taste in music sucks because you like a band that i don't". That's Just wrong. Ignorant. And you also can't say that [Enter band Name Here] Sucks too, because the odds are, you've never listened to them.

Now i understand why all of you guys are saying you don't want Slipknot in here, because YOU Do Not like them. But Their Fans (maggots is a stupid word to call fans) will probably get songs in here if Slipknot Wanted to. Now the fact that they wont put their music in here is understandable, but they should honestly give HARMONIX a chance instead of RED OCTANE. Because we all know "How Well" Guitar Hero Turned out.

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wow. that was longer than i expected. ha

*edit* also. you can tell that my music preference is mainly towards Rock. I like Metal, but its not my favorite thing to listen to. it is a good break though.

[comptonst]

I think that Ultimatum and Revolver or whatever his name is should just leave us and our thread alone and go suggest bands they want in the game and actual say something productive in these forums.

[Kelvis]

That is in direct contradiction with the above.

You can't opinionate whether an individual is on time or not.


Troll, troll, troll! Answer this, bucko:


Slipknot haters - the Slipknot fans created this thread so that fans of the band could talk about their faves. Why not just leave them to it?

Or do you just want to rain on the Slipknot fans' parade some more?

Slipknot fans: if you're tired of people disrupting your thread, report them to the mods.

[MindFreak316]

Musicianship is based on certain criteria, such as songwriting and how technical the guitar/bass/drums are, not how catchy you think they are or how rebellious they make you feel.

You can say they are talentless all you want but if they were that bad then why are they signed to a huge record label then? Roadrunner records are a huge record label and i'm pretty sure they wouldn't hire Slipknot if they were "talentless". As mentioned before you are just showing pure ignorance towards this band just because you don't like them.



This isn't opinion at all. If you listened to something outside the **** slipknot puts out, you might notice this.

Actually I listen to loads of other bands and different genres of music so I think you've just failed with that comment LOLZ.



What I have been trying to do is get people to listen to some talented bands, but, as shown above, they keep blasting these songs about maggots and continue ignorant posts.

Let's get one thing straight!

People can listen to whatever the hell they want to and they aren't gonna change their taste in music just because you and a few others say so. You seem to think that us Slipknot fans "only" listen to Slipknot and nothing else which is complete nonsense. I listen to loads of other bands and enjoy lots of different types of music. So if you are too ignorant to appreciate that then I really think you should just give up because you're just making yourself look like an idiot.

[Kelvis]

edit: claiming an individual can't stay on time as fact is a fact(as long as it is backed up with evidence)

Indeed, and where is this evidence? Until such evidence is shown and is consistently true, then claiming a drummer can't stay on time as fact is a fallacy based on the claimant's *opinion*.

However, since the initial claim was a troll, I'm quite sure I won't see it.

Regardless, this is an entirely different topic which has derailed this thread. Open it up for debate where the Metallica fans will see it.

[SyntheticDeth]

I think things have kind of strayed off subject in this thread, so in the interest of getting it back on track, I give my vote and support for Slipknot being in Rockband. Whille I'd like to see any Slipknot song in Rockband and I don't feel like listing every song, I'll list my 3 favorites off of each album they've released:

(Sic)
Eyeless
Prosthetics
People = S***
Disasterpiece
New Abortion
The Blister Exists
Duality
Vermilion
Gematria (The Killing Name)
Sulfur
Psychosocial

Now I've read a lot of posts saying how Slipknot is this and that, how they aren't talented, how they are s***, etc. And that's fine, it's your opinion. But that's all it is, your OPINION. I just don't see how saying these comments brings any sort of contribution to a thread titled, "SLIPKNOT FOR RB." And for the people who say, "Slipknot doesn't belong in Rockband," I want to hear you complain about Jimmy Buffet, or Freezepop, who arguably isn't even rock being in ROCKband. There is a ton of DLC from bands that I don't necessarily like, but I don't complain that they are "taking up space for my favorite band," because its called respect for other people's tastes in music. The final point is, it's DLC, "Downloadable Content," and DLC is downloaded and purchased. If you don't like Slipknot, then you don't HAVE to buy it, download it, play it, or even listen to the 30 second clip if you don't want to.

Anyways, back on track, I support Slipknot for Rockband.

[afterstasis]

Haven't heard Minsk and I listened to HoM a while back and can't remember by specific reasons for disliking them.

i don't want to derail the thread, but i highly recommend checking out minsk if you like doom metal.

hammers of misfortune are admittedly an acquired taste for most folks, but i love them.

[Rev0lver]

The bands i do listen to.

Audioslave
Chris Cornell (his solo stuff)
Avenged Sevenfold
Boston
Bon Jovi
Breaking Benjamin
Disturbed
Evanescence
Apocalyptica
HURT
Linkin Park
Lostprophets
KoRn (Older KoRn)
Muse
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Seether
Shinedown
Stone Sour
System of a Down
..... and Slipknot.


You pretty much proved my point with that one.

[BuRn7 CaK3]

You pretty much proved my point with that one.

but you got by what i meant though? Right?

[Rev0lver]

You can say they are talentless all you want but if they were that bad then why are they signed to a huge record label then? Roadrunner records are a huge record label and i'm pretty sure they wouldn't hire Slipknot if they were "talentless". As mentioned before you are just showing pure ignorance towards this band just because you don't like them.


Just because I don't like them? I have said multiple times that they are as talented as a piece of **** when it comes to metal, in terms of songwriting and musicianship. Please find me a single time I have said a band is bad just because I don't like them. For example, I hate power metal, I cannot stand the vocals, but I have incredible respect for the genre's musicians, therefore I would generally not say *insert non-dragonforce power metal band* sucks.

By the way, being on a big record label is FAR from meaning a band is good.



Actually I listen to loads of other bands and different genres of music so I think you've just failed with that comment LOLZ.

Could you name a few, rather than just stating that and failing at your argument?


Let's get one thing straight!

People can listen to whatever the hell they want to and they aren't gonna change their taste in music just because you and a few others say so. You seem to think that us Slipknot fans "only" listen to Slipknot and nothing else which is complete nonsense. I listen to loads of other bands and enjoy lots of different types of music. So if you are too ignorant to appreciate that then I really think you should just give up because you're just making yourself look like an idiot.

As I said, it is a good thing to show why a band sucks, because it makes their fans realize they should be listening to something that isn't a giant piece of ****. If you listened to half the bands in my itunes library, you might have the same opinion. And, once again, if you don't mind, please list some of the other music you listen to.

[JMP5]

Or we could keep this thread about Slipknot and the Fans who want them on the game!

[Ultimatum]

Troll, troll, troll! Answer this, bucko:

What a cop out.

"I can't think of a good response so I'm going to yell troll because he doesn't agree with me.

[BuRn7 CaK3]

What a cop out.

"I can't think of a good response so I'm going to yell troll because he doesn't agree with me.

You know, he does have a point. All i've seen you do is post nothing but Negativity in this thread. thats all. this thread (among the other one) is really all where i see you post.

[Ultimatum]

And?

I always have valid points backing my reasoning, unless proven otherwise.

[BuRn7 CaK3]

Doesn't freaking matter. We got your point that you don't want them in here. But to constantly stay in this thread, for pretty much ever, is pretty pathetic. Why don't you just get out of the thread already?

[Ultimatum]

Because people constantly spew out ignorant crap, like staying in time is a matter of opinion.

[BuRn7 CaK3]

Because people constantly spew out ignorant crap, like staying in time is a matter of opinion.

then freaking ignore them. All your doing is feeding the arguments and making them worse.

You Don't Like Slipknot. Fine. Your Opinion.
But that doesn't mean you should STAY in here and continue to ARGUE with everyone.

[PCTraitor]

What a cop out.

"I can't think of a good response so I'm going to yell troll because he doesn't agree with me.

You sound upset. You should probably just log off for a bit.

[PCTraitor]

Wait Ultimatum is fiercely against this but such a staunch supporter of Visions? Really?

[BuRn7 CaK3]

lol i guess so. I find it funny how he logged off. Must be past his bedtime. All 15 yr olds have to sleep at some point. They have Schools to attend!

[Kelvis]

What a cop out.

"I can't think of a good response so I'm going to yell troll because he doesn't agree with me.

Says Mr. "selective reply". Here's your response bucko, in a reply to another post.



edit: claiming an individual can't stay on time as fact is a fact(as long as it is backed up with evidence)

Indeed, and where is this evidence? Until such evidence is shown and is consistently true, then claiming a drummer can't stay on time as fact is a fallacy based on the claimant's *opinion*.

However, since the initial claim was a troll, I'm quite sure I won't see it.

So, Ultrollmatum - put up the 'evidence' that it's a 'fact' that a particular individual can't 'stay in time' - if it's as factual as you claim, then this evidence should be irrefutable btw.

However, it's pointless trying to enter into a discussion with you - anytime a question comes up that you don't like (see below) you simply avoid it and deflect by addressing another point in the same post. *Just like a troll.*

I've asked you the following question at least three times, each time you've dodged it and never provided an answer, so I highly doubt I'll see the 'irrefutable evidence' required to prove your 'point' above. lol :)

Nevertheless, Let me ask it for the fourth time and see if you can give a decent answer this time:


Slipknot haters - the Slipknot fans created this thread so that fans of the band could talk about their faves. Why not just leave them to it?

Or do you just want to rain on the Slipknot fans' parade some more?


Slipknot fans: if you're tired of people disrupting your thread, report them to the mods.

[MindFreak316]

Just because I don't like them? I have said multiple times that they are as talented as a piece of **** when it comes to metal, in terms of songwriting and musicianship.

HAHAH!

Yes, you have said multiple times that they are "as talented as a piece of ****" but this isn't fact, it's your opinion!



Please find me a single time I have said a band is bad just because I don't like them. For example, I hate power metal, I cannot stand the vocals, but I have incredible respect for the genre's musicians, therefore I would generally not say *insert non-dragonforce power metal band* sucks.

Well it's pretty obvious you think Slipknot is bad just because you don't like them, it's the same with most of the haters out there. Have you actually listened to all of their albums and all of their songs? Or have you just listened to one or two and automatically think "they suck" just from listening to a "few" songs? If you don't like them after listening to all of their stuff then fine, that's ok. But to say they are "as talented as a piece of ****" is pretty childish and ignorant to be honest. I bet you could never play as good as Joey or sing as good as Corey, so the only talentless one by the looks of things is you!



By the way, being on a big record label is FAR from meaning a band is good.

Well if they were "talentless" as you say then they wouldn't even be signed would they? I said it before and i'll say it again, I'm pretty sure Road Runner wouldn't hire them if they were that bad. And to be honest I think that Road Runner are pretty happy that they hired Slipknot due to the following -

Albums

* Slipknot (Double Platinum, February 2005)
* Iowa (Platinum, October 2002)
* Vol. 3: (The Subliminal Verses) (Platinum, February 2005)
* 9.0: Live (Gold, December 2005)


Videos and DVDs

* Welcome to Our Neighborhood (Platinum, February 2000)
* Disasterpieces (Quadruple Platinum, November 2005)
* Voliminal: Inside the Nine (Platinum, February 2007)




Could you name a few, rather than just stating that and failing at your argument?

Here's a "few"

KoRn
Slipknot
Killswitch Engage
Lacuna Coil
Evanescence
Machine Head
Chimera
Disturbed
Linkin Park
Within Temptation
Bon Jovi
Stone Sour
Metallica
Caliban
Arch Enemy

Some of the other artists I like are:

2Pac
Notorious B.I.G.
Jay-Z
DMX
Snoop Dogg
Dr Dre
Ice Cube
Eminem
Chris Brown
Val Doonican!
Prince
Michael Jackson
Mariah Carey
Alicia Keys
Aaliyah

and loads more, the list could go on and on.



As I said, it is a good thing to show why a band sucks, because it makes their fans realize they should be listening to something that isn't a giant piece of ****.

I'll say it again, people can listen to what they want and nothing you say will change that. Everyone has their "own taste" in the music that they listen to and not everyone has the same taste. You might not like the music that I listen to and I might not like the music that you listen to, and that's the way the world turns...You can see what sort of stuff I like by clicking on my profile. What's your fave band btw? As you don't have *anything* listed there. Once we establish what you listen to, I could always join in threads about your fave band and post about how they suck and how I'm going to *make you realise* that you should be listening to something better (imo)? That would'nt work would it? Well, that's exactly what you're doing here.




If you listened to half the bands in my itunes library, you might have the same opinion. And, once again, if you don't mind, please list some of the other music you listen to.


I don't want to listen to your Itunes library, I have an Ipod with the music that I enjoy, that's enough for me.

Some of the different music I listen to is as follows:

Rap
R&B
Hip Hop
Rock
Metal

[Katch XXII]

I would have both of my pinkies removed to get a or the new Slipknot album on Rock Band if it wasn't for the fact that I would need them for the amazing Thompson and Root riffs. Please oh please make this happen. The only reason why I registered here is to say this. Need Slipknot!!! The Maggots have spoken and you have to be deaf not to hear them.

[Rev0lver]

HAHAH!

Yes, you have said multiple times that they are "as talented as a piece of ****" but this isn't fact, it's your opinion!


Actually, it is a fact that slipknot relies on simple chord changes, simple penatonic solos(when the solos are there, which is rare in the first place), and constant double bass. I don't know how you could possibly opinionate that.


Well it's pretty obvious you think Slipknot is bad just because you don't like them, it's the same with most of the haters out there. Have you actually listened to all of their albums and all of their songs? Or have you just listened to one or two and automatically think "they suck" just from listening to a "few" songs? If you don't like them after listening to all of their stuff then fine, that's ok. But to say they are "as talented as a piece of ****" is pretty childish and ignorant to be honest. I bet you could never play as good as Joey or sing as good as Corey, so the only talentless one by the looks of things is you!

I just explained that I never say a band is bad because "i don't like them" with the power metal analogy, but you quite obviously ignored that. I have heard many of their songs, and in fact I used to love Slipknot. I have 2 of their albums(self titled and vol:3, the subliminal verses). I do not sing or play the drums, so therefore that part does not apply to me. I am a bassist, and can, and have played their songs with relative ease.


Well if they were "talentless" as you say then they wouldn't even be signed would they? I said it before and i'll say it again, I'm pretty sure Road Runner wouldn't hire them if they were that bad.

There are HUNDREDS of HORRIBLE bands that are signed. Just turn on the radio to your local modern music station and you will find a good amount of them. The Jonas Brothers and Hannah Montana selling millions of records means NOTHING towards how good the band is. It simply means they are popular. By the way, RoadRunner has some pretty terrible bands as well(Atreyu, Dragonforce, Nickelback).


Here's a "few"

KoRn
Slipknot
Killswitch Engage
Lacuna Coil
Evanescence
Machine Head
Chimera
Disturbed
Linkin Park
Within Temptation
Bon Jovi
Stone Sour
Metallica
Caliban
Arch Enemy

Some of the other artists I like are:

2Pac
Notorious B.I.G.
Jay-Z
DMX
Snoop Dogg
Dr Dre
Ice Cube
Eminem
Chris Brown
Val Doonican!
Prince
Michael Jackson
Mariah Carey
Alicia Keys
Aaliyah

Well, that basically proved my point right there. There's no reason to go further with this with you while you have the likes of Korn and Eminem on that list.

[BuRn7 CaK3]

RoadRunner has some pretty terrible bands as well(Atreyu, Dragonforce, Nickelback)

Whoa, Whoa, Whoa. I may agree that dragonforce is Terrible. But Atreyu and Nickelback are not terrible bands. (actually, i honestly only Like Nickelback's "All the Right Reasons" CD). But Atreyu is not a Terrible Band. I understand you don't like them. But that does not mean they're Terrible.

[Rev0lver]

What? Atreyu uses voice effects to make them sound better, also relies on incredibly simple solos, simple drum beats(though, i will admit it takes skill to play drums and sing at the same time), not to mention the most amateur basslines you can find.

[BuRn7 CaK3]

What? Atreyu uses voice effects to make them sound better, also relies on incredibly simple solos, simple drum beats(though, i will admit it takes skill to play drums and sing at the same time), not to mention the most amateur basslines you can find.

So, Who cares? Is that all you do to every band? Yes, i do not like Alex's voice (since he is the one you are talking about) But Brandon is one hell of a Singer, since he does that and plays drums at the same time. And its Freaking Bass, its not like you can hear that completley. Unless you have BASS all the way up on your stereo.

[JMP5]

So what does everyone think of All Hope Is Gone. The cd of course, not just that song.

[Unbelievable21]

and constant double bass. I don't know how you could possibly opinionate that.

Yes, they do use them a lot, but I wouldn't say constantly because that would imply that they do it all of the time, for every song. Which they do not. Just listen to a few of the songs listed below.

(I'm not sure how much is considered constantly by you, so the list below is loosely in order by how much they are used.)

Songs that, if using them, doing so sparingly:

Eyeless
Wherein Lies Continue
Sulfur
Welcome
Diluted
Wait and Bleed
Before I Forget
Duality
Gehenna
Vermilion
The Virus of Life
Psychosocial
Child of Burning Time




So what does everyone think of All Hope Is Gone. The cd of course, not just that song.

One of my least favorite songs by them, but still a fantastic record.

[xRage]

Actually, it is a fact that slipknot relies on simple chord changes, simple penatonic solos(when the solos are there, which is rare in the first place), and constant double bass. I don't know how you could possibly opinionate that.



I just explained that I never say a band is bad because "i don't like them" with the power metal analogy, but you quite obviously ignored that. I have heard many of their songs, and in fact I used to love Slipknot. I have 2 of their albums(self titled and vol:3, the subliminal verses). I do not sing or play the drums, so therefore that part does not apply to me. I am a bassist, and can, and have played their songs with relative ease.



There are HUNDREDS of HORRIBLE bands that are signed. Just turn on the radio to your local modern music station and you will find a good amount of them. The Jonas Brothers and Hannah Montana selling millions of records means NOTHING towards how good the band is. It simply means they are popular. By the way, RoadRunner has some pretty terrible bands as well(Atreyu, Dragonforce, Nickelback).



Well, that basically proved my point right there. There's no reason to go further with this with you while you have the likes of Korn and Eminem on that list.

does every person on this forum have to really, REALLY enjoy extremely hard chord changes and solo's, or like music that has mainly regular basses and only some double bases? no, grow up :)

wtf does it matter if their base lines are simple, that doesn't exactly mean that all of their songs are simple, or for another point, that their songs are mediocre, I don't know what you're trying to prove by showing that Slipknot is "bad" when you have 2 of their albums. Also, if you're only a bassist, then you're practically arguing that you don't like them just because they don't have the hardest bass, so once again, grow up, just because your genre isn't there doesn't mean others aren't

The Jonas Brothers and Hannah Montana are targeted for a younger audience and girls ages anywhere really from 2-20, we're guys, of course we don't like that kind of music, but that doesn't mean others don't. You may think they're crap, but they're raking in the money for their record companies, as Slipknot actually is for theirs

and oh man, he likes KoRn AND Eminem, let's kill him :X

I don't like KoRn but that doesn't mean they're bad, it just means I don't like them, same way with you and Slipknot appearantly


btw, Before I Forget is great on gh3, wouldn't mind seeing it on RB, along with Duality, Pulse of the Maggots, The Nameless, etc :)

[Ultimatum]

Wait Ultimatum is fiercely against this but such a staunch supporter of Visions? Really?

Point is?

You just dismiss anything you don't agree with as wrong, even when there is sufficient reasoning behind it.

You dismiss anything posted against you by younger posters just because their younger, you might not say it outright, but I've seen it through your attitude.

Face it, you're ignorant. Any one person that will write off something as childish just because there is a fast pace to it cannot be described with any other word.

[Ultimatum]

Says Mr. "selective reply". Here's your response bucko, in a reply to another post.



So, Ultrollmatum - put up the 'evidence' that it's a 'fact' that a particular individual can't 'stay in time' - if it's as factual as you claim, then this evidence should be irrefutable btw.

However, it's pointless trying to enter into a discussion with you - anytime a question comes up that you don't like (see below) you simply avoid it and deflect by addressing another point in the same post. *Just like a troll.*

I've asked you the following question at least three times, each time you've dodged it and never provided an answer, so I highly doubt I'll see the 'irrefutable evidence' required to prove your 'point' above. lol :)

Nevertheless, Let me ask it for the fourth time and see if you can give a decent answer this time:




Slipknot fans: if you're tired of people disrupting your thread, report them to the mods.

I've answered the question before in the other thread.

Hell, you even QUOTED my reply, but still ignored it.

Simple enough, this thread is on the same level of ridiculousness as the last one, I'm going to get this one locked too, and I suggest that SlipKnoT fans wait to make a new one for a little bit because no one can obviously have civilized discussion.

[prowlingDead]

I'm not too much for slipknot's submilimal verses minus one song, I haven't heard the new one yet except for psychosocial which i wasn't fond of, I would say anything off ST or Iowa would be great. Like start out with Wait and bleed, before I forget, and My Plauge. All very good around songs. Also possibly Left Behind. I would love to see Surfacing on RB but I highly doubt I ever will.

[BuRn7 CaK3]

So what does everyone think of All Hope Is Gone. The cd of course, not just that song.

I Like it. I like it more than Vol 3. But i still cannot make that official since my Vol 3 CD is gone somewhere.

[JMP5]

I've answered the question before in the other thread.

Hell, you even QUOTED my reply, but still ignored it.

Simple enough, this thread is on the same level of ridiculousness as the last one, I'm going to get this one locked too, and I suggest that SlipKnoT fans wait to make a new one for a little bit because no one can obviously have civilized discussion.

Hahaha, NO you're not gonna get this thread locked, because I created it for FANS of the band to discuss why they like them and what songs they want for RB! I didnt make it for people that hate the band to come into and start fights with everyone.

[JMP5]

I Like it. I like it more than Vol 3. But i still cannot make that official since my Vol 3 CD is gone somewhere.

Sweet! I might like it more than Vol 3 aswell. I havent listened to that cd for awhile now though, so I might have to do that soon. Overall its a really good cd. Has a good mix of heavier and softer stuff.

[R33DH4M]

slipknot was good on their debut album...everything after that was just formulas.

I agree 100%. I'm OK with any DLC from them only if it's from the S.T. They were a force to reckoned with in the beginning. Now I'm sorry to say they are sort of like a "metal" version of N-sync.

[Der_Lex]

Just a reminder to keep things civil. And, as always with request threads: if you don't like the band being requested, you don't really have any business in the thread (note that this does still not condone the level of 'discussion' of some of the proponents either).

[Rev0lver]

wtf does it matter if their base lines are simple, that doesn't exactly mean that all of their songs are simple, or for another point, that their songs are mediocre, I don't know what you're trying to prove by showing that Slipknot is "bad" when you have 2 of their albums. Also, if you're only a bassist, then you're practically arguing that you don't like them just because they don't have the hardest bass, so once again, grow up, just because your genre isn't there doesn't mean others aren't


Where the hell did I base my entire argument off that? I merely mentioned it, along with the drums and guitar. These kinds of things are starting to bother me.


does every person on this forum have to really, REALLY enjoy extremely hard chord changes and solo's, or like music that has mainly regular basses and only some double bases?

No, but my argument this was from was in response to their talent being opinionated.

By the way, I have nothing against double bass playing. However, there are too many people claiming Joey is such an amazing drummer because he can play fast double bass(not even very fast, compared to others. listen to someone like Inferno) while the rest of his drumwork is average.

EDIT: By the way, I would love to have a civilized argument about this with someone. Unfortunately, 99% of the time, if I post something regarding a band such as Nickelback, Korn, or Slipknot, one of their fanboys starts flaming me, and that results in my more intelligent flame towards them, and then they start crying and talk about how good they are because they make alot of money, so I basically ignore them after that. So, if anybody is up for this, there are a few posters in this thread, I would love to do it.

[Rev0lver]

The Jonas Brothers and Hannah Montana are targeted for a younger audience and girls ages anywhere really from 2-20, we're guys, of course we don't like that kind of music, but that doesn't mean others don't. You may think they're crap, but they're raking in the money for their record companies, as Slipknot actually is for theirs


Sorry for getting off topic with the Jonas Brothers and Hannah Montana here, but it's not the target audience that bothers me, it is the fact that they play for the purpose of making money, rather than creating art. If I had professional songwriters writing music for my band, I could be as rich and famous as them. However, I would die inside for contributing to the attempted killing of an art form. Slipknot, while I couldn't really say plays for the purpose of making money, makes tons of money from mediocre music, which bothers me quite a bit.

[Unbelievable21]

EDIT: By the way, I would love to have a civilized argument about this with someone. Unfortunately, 99% of the time, if I post something regarding a band such as Nickelback, Korn, or Slipknot, one of their fanboys starts flaming me, and that results in my more intelligent flame towards them, and then they start crying and talk about how good they are because they make alot of money, so I basically ignore them after that. So, if anybody is up for this, there are a few posters in this thread, I would love to do it.


Do I come off as this to you? (Just asking; I hope I don't, because I'm not intending to come off as ignorant if I am)

[Rev0lver]

Do I come off as this to you? (Just asking; I hope I don't, because I'm not intending to come off as ignorant if I am)

No, you are an exception :)

[Unbelievable21]

Okay. I can leave this thread in peace, then. Adios!

[thesicklyill]

i just want psychosocial

[BuRn7 CaK3]

Just a reminder to keep things civil. And, as always with request threads: if you don't like the band being requested, you don't really have any business in the thread (note that this does still not condone the level of 'discussion' of some of the proponents either).

You know guys. Lex makes a good point here. Maybe you all should listen to him! Since he can lock this easily if he wants to.

[BuRn7 CaK3]

Simple enough, this thread is on the same level of ridiculousness as the last one, I'm going to get this one locked too, and I suggest that SlipKnoT fans wait to make a new one for a little bit because no one can obviously have civilized discussion.

And your blaming them? Haha, think again Buck-o!

[BuRn7 CaK3]

EDIT: By the way, I would love to have a civilized argument about this with someone. Unfortunately, 99% of the time, if I post something regarding a band such as Nickelback, Korn, or Slipknot, one of their fanboys starts flaming me, and that results in my more intelligent flame towards them, and then they start crying and talk about how good they are because they make alot of money, so I basically ignore them after that. So, if anybody is up for this, there are a few posters in this thread, I would love to do it.

Why not make a thread about it In General Section? Make it a Debate Thread. just Debating, not Arguing.

[Ultimatum]

I'm blaming both sides.

I would be a complete and utter tool if I wouldn't admit that my side was at fault.

[BuRn7 CaK3]

Honestly, The way i see it. You are the Fault. It wouldn't be as bad if you just left it as your first post, whatever it was. pretty much saying no.

Like I've said before, i respect that you don't like them. But to stay in here and continuing to feed this argument (its all that its been) is pretty pathetic.

This is just an example. The Radiohead thread. I made my reply, pretty much saying no and how i do not like them. Then Left. I really haven't made a post in there since i've done that. Why is that so hard for you?

[Kelvis]

I'm going to get this one locked too, and I suggest that SlipKnoT fans wait to make a new one for a little bit because no one can obviously have civilized discussion.

And your blaming them? Haha, think again Buck-o!

Class, CaK3 :D


And, as always with request threads: if you don't like the band being requested, you don't really have any business in the thread

Thank you for pointing this out Der_Lex, Slipknot fans can now enjoy this thread without further disruption :)

[Ravok]

No Flobots? No Slipknot. Gonna argue about how many members are in the band...>:( I like both though..really..

[MindFreak316]

There are HUNDREDS of HORRIBLE bands that are signed. Just turn on the radio to your local modern music station and you will find a good amount of them. The Jonas Brothers and Hannah Montana selling millions of records means NOTHING towards how good the band is. It simply means they are popular. By the way, RoadRunner has some pretty terrible bands as well(Atreyu, Dragonforce, Nickelback).

Dude we are talking about Slipknot here, where did I mention anything about "The Jonas Brothers, or Hannah Montana"? The original post was talking about Slipknot being signed, I didn't mention other bands. Now as for (Atreyu, Dragonforce, Nickelback), I don't listen to those bands much or am a fan of them, however I wouldn't be ignorant enough to slate them and say they are talentless etc like you are doing with Slipknot.



Well, that basically proved my point right there. There's no reason to go further with this with you while you have the likes of Korn and Eminem on that list.

That is my choice in music and that's what matters to me so you've proved nothing with your ignorance towards other peoples taste in music. And for the record, i'm not a huge Eminem fan (I only like his first 2 albums). I am however a huge KoRn fan and couldn't really care less if you like them or not. Loads of people like them, loads of people don't, live with it...What's so hard to understand about that?

I noticed you failed to tell us your music list, whats the matter are you scared to?

Now that the Troll has been told off by the Mods, us Slipknot fans can finally have a chat about this band without people constantly interrupting.

Now is anyone going to see Slipknot during their tour of Europe? (I'm going to see them in December, can't wait!) :)

[Dylonus]

Seriously how hard could Slipknot be to sing... seriously it sounds like there is little to no pitch variation making them all talkies. Which are fixed in RB2 except for one in One Way or Another

Want hard to sing metal?

Maiden, Judas Priest,
Mastodon (Listen to the choruses in some stuff off Blood Mountain those are some pretty ****ed up scales)
Megadeth

Not to mention all probably have songs that would be more fun to play in a game like RB


Dude... I HATE Judas Priest! You know WHY its hard to sing? cause no one has a high pitch pillow biter voice >_< Halford's voice makes me want to listen to Rap. Repeatedly. I will refuse to play Painkiller on RB2 with sound.

Oh, and I cant FREAKING BELIEVE Painkiller was considered the hardest guitar song! other than one part of the solo, the song ISNT THAT HARD. Battery is definetly harder by a LONGSHOT.

Metal you can sing? Did you see Chiron from ATR? did you download Disturbed? those are a ***** to sing. ATR should've released Not Alone!

[BuRn7 CaK3]

Class, CaK3 :D

Glad im not the only one who sees it. :p

[Mystlyfe77]

Dude... I HATE Judas Priest! You know WHY its hard to sing? cause no one has a high pitch pillow biter voice >_< Halford's voice makes me want to listen to Rap. Repeatedly. I will refuse to play Painkiller on RB2 with sound.

Oh, and I cant FREAKING BELIEVE Painkiller was considered the hardest guitar song! other than one part of the solo, the song ISNT THAT HARD. Battery is definetly harder by a LONGSHOT.

Metal you can sing? Did you see Chiron from ATR? did you download Disturbed? those are a ***** to sing. ATR should've released Not Alone!

Judas Priest is classic, and Halford helped define what metal is. There's a reason he's known as the "metal god."
ATR isn't even real metal, it's metalcore (a fusion genre). And using Disturbed as an example of good metal...

[Rev0lver]

That is my choice in music and that's what matters to me so you've proved nothing with your ignorance towards other peoples taste in music. And for the record, i'm not a huge Eminem fan (I only like his first 2 albums). I am however a huge KoRn fan and couldn't really care less if you like them or not. Loads of people like them, loads of people don't, live with it...What's so hard to understand about that?

I noticed you failed to tell us your music list, whats the matter are you scared to?


Untalented bands like Slipknot and Korn and the majority of Hip-Hop/Rap artists are making millions of dollars for doing nothing but appealing to popularity. How would it be morally right of me to sit back and do nothing?

And here's a few of my favorite bands, since you asked:
Between The Buried And Me
The Dillinger Escape Plan
Opeth
Necrophagist
Ephel Duath
Intronaut
The Ocean
Protest The Hero
Cynic
Meshuggah
Arsis

[BuRn7 CaK3]

Untalented bands like Slipknot and Korn

Untalented, you want Untalented? Put a Guitar in my hands, i'll give you all the talent you want.
Of course, i'll destroy the guitar cause i have no clue how to play CORRECTLY.

Give me a Set of Drums and tell me to play some metal band songs. It won't work too great.

Calling a band Untalented is so freaking ignorant. They have great talent, if they didn't. im pretty damn sure they wouldn't even be on a record label.
Obviously there's talent in there. Freaking understand that.

Hell, Give me a Microphone, and i bet i could make your ears bleed.

Now me, Im Untalented. Bands like KoRn and Slipknot. Are Not. Get it Straight.

[Rev0lver]

Playing a couple chords on a guitar equates to musical talent as much as throwing a crumpled up piece of paper in the trash makes you a great basketball player.

Once again, being on a label does NOT equate to talent either. If it did, nobody would have heard the words "Jonas Brothers".

[Ultimatum]

Dude... I HATE Judas Priest! You know WHY its hard to sing? cause no one has a high pitch pillow biter voice >_< Halford's voice makes me want to listen to Rap. Repeatedly. I will refuse to play Painkiller on RB2 with sound.

Oh, and I cant FREAKING BELIEVE Painkiller was considered the hardest guitar song! other than one part of the solo, the song ISNT THAT HARD. Battery is definetly harder by a LONGSHOT.

Metal you can sing? Did you see Chiron from ATR? did you download Disturbed? those are a ***** to sing. ATR should've released Not Alone!

Let's see you try to play the sweeps in Painkiller on a real guitar. Those sweeps alone are harder than anything that Metallica has ever done.

And ATR stays around the same pitch and stays in generally easy to hit octaves. Same with Disturbed, just because he has a unique timbre does not mean it is difficult to match the pitch and octave.

[Ultimatum]

Honestly, The way i see it. You are the Fault. It wouldn't be as bad if you just left it as your first post, whatever it was. pretty much saying no.

Like I've said before, i respect that you don't like them. But to stay in here and continuing to feed this argument (its all that its been) is pretty pathetic.

This is just an example. The Radiohead thread. I made my reply, pretty much saying no and how i do not like them. Then Left. I really haven't made a post in there since i've done that. Why is that so hard for you?

I can't leave it if people constantly make one-sided, ignorant remarks. I simply won't let people get away with ignorance.

[BuRn7 CaK3]

Playing a couple chords on a guitar equates to musical talent as much as throwing a crumpled up piece of paper in the trash makes you a great basketball player.

Once again, being on a label does NOT equate to talent either. If it did, nobody would have heard the words "Jonas Brothers".

oh my god. Yes it does, give an unexperienced guitar player, and tell them to play Flirting With Disaster. see how good they play. Tell Them to play Psychosocial and see how good they do. Obviously they have talent, because they can at least play the instruments and sing.

Yes it does, someone noticed them when they were not signed. thought they were really good and signed them. Everyone has talent of some type. Whether you agree to that or not. it doesn't matter.

All Music Appeals to some type of person in the world. Every Band has fans, which for them, that band is good.

Now, i know you don't like slipknot. Fine. Why not just get out of here (along with Ultimatum since we both know you don't like them) and make something useful of your account. Instead of being little kids, and arguing with everyone about one single band.

[BuRn7 CaK3]

I can't leave it if people constantly make one-sided, ignorant remarks. I simply won't let people get away with ignorance.

Yes you can. Its simple. I did it with Radiohead. What is so freaking hard about it?

Do you see me acting like a little kid and whining about the music? No. Do you see me in every single thread of bands that i don't like, and argue about them? No. Its Freaking easy. IGNORE THE DAMN THREAD.

[BuRn7 CaK3]

Also, Rev0lver and Ultimatum. I have reported you 2. Its getting Extremely annoying (as other people think so too, i would imagine).

[m00p]

The worst thread ever...

[Ferocious Q]

sure. i love them. maggot :D

rock band deserves them. the songs would be a challenge.
i agree in every way.
-psychosocial
-wait and bleed
-duality
:D

[Rigmortis2k8]

Slipknot ftw? thought i'd post something positive =]

[Ferocious Q]

why does an argument always break out???
plz hmx GIVE US ALL AT LEAST ONE SONG TO MAKE BOTH SIDES HAPPY

some slipknot
and some more pearl jam:eek:, or whatever the hell non-metalheads listen to.

[FloodOne]

Also, Rev0lver and Ultimatum. I have reported you 2. Its getting Extremely annoying (as other people think so too, i would imagine).

thank god. ultimatum is a tool. if he wants to talk against slipknot, shouldnt he make a thread in the history of rock forum?

slipknot for DLC!!!

[instantdeath999]

thank god. ultimatum is a tool. if he wants to talk against slipknot, shouldnt he make a thread in the history of rock forum?

slipknot for DLC!!!

A flamebait thread? That's never a good idea.

[Ultimatum]

Yes you can. Its simple. I did it with Radiohead. What is so freaking hard about it?

Do you see me acting like a little kid and whining about the music? No. Do you see me in every single thread of bands that i don't like, and argue about them? No. Its Freaking easy. IGNORE THE DAMN THREAD.

Just so you know, in most cases, the comments do not directly pertain to SlipKnoT.

[Ultimatum]

thank god. ultimatum is a tool. if he wants to talk against slipknot, shouldnt he make a thread in the history of rock forum?

slipknot for DLC!!!

It would be just as bad as this one.

There is no logic in making an "I Hate ____" topic.

[JMP5]

It would be just as bad as this one.

There is no logic in making an "I Hate ____" topic.

Somebody already made 1 for Slipknot a few weeks ago. But, it got locked.
On a side note for anyone that didnt know already. Slipknots cd hit #1 for the week of its release!

[Ultimatum]

Somebody already made 1 for Slipknot a few weeks ago. But, it got locked.

Thanks for supporting my point.

[Mystlyfe77]

and some more pearl jam:eek:, or whatever the hell non-metalheads listen to.

LOL. You do realize that most of the people bashing Slipknot in this thread listen to metal, right?

[JMP5]

Thanks for supporting my point.

I wasnt really supporting your point. Just pointing out a fact. I myself like Slipknot, hence the reason that I made this thread!

[Ultimatum]

Look again.

You proved my reasoning because it would get locked anyways.

[BuRn7 CaK3]

Just so you know, in most cases, the comments do not directly pertain to SlipKnoT.

Who Cares? You made your point. Get out!

Honestly, you made your point months ago.


It would be just as bad as this one.

There is no logic in making an "I Hate ____" topic.

But there is logic in you getting out of this thread and leaving it alone. Or does your brain not "compute"?

[Mystlyfe77]

But there is logic in you getting out of this thread and leaving it alone. Or does your brain not "compute"?

Does your brain "no compute" the fact that these forums are for DISCUSSION? Not unilateral agreement. People are allowed to have dissenting opinions from the original poster. I'm no condoning the fashion that some of these opinions have been brought up, but nor am I going to condemn someone for speaking their mind.

[BuRn7 CaK3]

Does your brain "no compute" the fact that these forums are for DISCUSSION? Not unilateral agreement. People are allowed to have dissenting opinions from the original poster. I'm no condoning the fashion that some of these opinions have been brought up, but nor am I going to condemn someone for speaking their mind.

Yes, Which is understandable. But to constantly be in a thread and bash (pretty much) on a band is pretty sad. I've remembered since the first thread that Ultimatum was there Arguing about Slipknot. And When its simple enough just to say what you want once. leave the thread alone (like i've done before). But for him, it must be so damn complicated to leave a thread alone.

Like I've said before multiple times, i understand that you (people) don't like slipknot. That's fine. (i'm not a "Maggot" i'm just a rational fan. that's it. I've also mentioned how easy it is to leave a thread alone, as i've done with the Radiohead one.

I'm Not going to turn into a low-life and stay in one thread and continue to argue about one single band, with a world pull of other Musical artists. All Music appeals to someone. And if your one of the few that "Don't like the band" i don't understand what is going through your head that makes you want to argue about a Band. I Honestly don't get it.

[Runesmith]

I'm not a Slipknot fan, but I definately support the addition of the band as DLC. Any band (yes, even the dreaded N-word) that could work in Rock Band's format deserves a spot in the game as I'm sure they have fans that would be thrilled to see them as DLC.

For the record, I also don't understand why detractors would even wander into a thread dedicated to a band they don't like. That just seems like a big waste of time, when you could instead promote your favorite bands on their own thread.

[JMP5]

So Burn, Whats your top 3-4 songs you like on the new cd?

[pbsfinest2000]

the only slipknot song i know is before i forget because of guitar hero 3...yea i know.. but that song would be awesome for rockband 2

[BuRn7 CaK3]

The inability to play their songs is a fact in of itself.

A more accurate example would be "I hate StudioForce because they can't play live."

idk, i've never heard slipknot live. so i cannot agree or disagree.

but everyone has that one band that they just like so much, but know's they cannot play live.

i have a few of those. One of those bands is Atreyu. its not really the band, its more like Alex (the lead singer) than anyone.

[MindFreak316]

Untalented bands like Slipknot and Korn and the majority of Hip-Hop/Rap artists are making millions of dollars for doing nothing but appealing to popularity. How would it be morally right of me to sit back and do nothing?

Haha, dude you should really just give up because you're just digging your own grave here!

KoRn are untalented? (hahaha get a grip of yourself). For one thing Jonathan Davis is an excellent singer and is a muti-instrumentalist so I see no lack of talent there (plus there is no lack of talent in the other band members). Now there are a lot of Hip Hop/Rap artists that I don't really like but not all of them are talentless. You can hardly say that 2Pac and The Notorious B.I.G. are talentless and if you do that's just plain ignorance yet again!

Even in your sig it says - " Metal is talentless. All it is is some fat guy who lives with his mom screaming into a microphone." It seems to me that you think everyone is talentless, if you're so much better than all these bands /artists how come you're not signed to a huge record label selling millions then? Until you can do that you have a cheek saying anyone is talentless.

Now run along Troll and don't come back!

[sa_nick]

Thread Lock?

Yes, I shall if you guys dont stfu.

[Redundo]

Thread Lock?

Yes, I shall if you guys dont stfu.

Yes! Bring the hammer down sa_nick!

[Rev0lver]

Please, sa_nick, the idiocy of MindFreak316's post above you astounds me. All I am trying to do is to reverse the lowered intelligence levels of people who read posts like that.

[Ultimatum]

Thread Lock?

Yes, I shall if you guys dont stfu.

Please lock this.

[BuRn7 CaK3]

So Burn, Whats your top 3-4 songs you like on the new cd?

Psychosocial
Gematria (the Killing Name)
Gehenna
Dead Memories

you?

[FarCry2112]

wait and bleed
left behind
duality/vermillion/psychosocial

[Legion37]

Dont see why we gotta constantly lock this thread, Mods need to have a tighter grip on the posters, not the thread, if people are being disrespectful or not being constructive, then some warnings and couple day bans need to start happening

[Legion37]

I can garentee Ultimatium is looking for anything by saying Slipknot cant play their music live. Which is total crap since I been to two concerts
Duality live

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0Pa1eYVqAc

and the studio version of Duality

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xps7AM8HbjE

Dont bring crap in here (for those that support and do not support Slipknot) do your research

[BuRn7 CaK3]

I can garentee Ultimatium is looking for anything by saying Slipknot cant play their music live. Which is total crap since I been to two concerts
Duality live

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0Pa1eYVqAc

and the studio version of Duality

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xps7AM8HbjE

Dont bring crap in here (for those that support and do not support Slipknot) do your research

Corey may sing a little bit quieter, but they are good live.

thanks for that video!

[JMP5]

Please, sa_nick, the idiocy of MindFreak316's post above you astounds me. All I am trying to do is to reverse the lowered intelligence levels of people who read posts like that.

I dont think Sa-nick should have to lock this thread. Maybe just a couple people in here should be warned, and then banned for a bit.

[BuRn7 CaK3]

i honestly miss coreys long hair. i think his new mask would look more scary if he had the long hair.

[JMP5]

Psychosocial
Gematria (the Killing Name)
Gehenna
Dead Memories

you?


hmm well Id would have to say:
Sulfur
Psychosocial
Wherein Lies Continue
All Hope Is Gone

But I like most of the cd!

[BuRn7 CaK3]

hmm well Id would have to say:
Sulfur
Psychosocial
Wherein Lies Continue
All Hope Is Gone

But I like most of the cd!

yeah, so do i.

[Rev0lver]

There's nothing wrong with that live vid(only noticeable mistake was around 4:09) but it's not like it's impressive, seeing as it's not difficult to play.

[BuRn7 CaK3]

There's nothing wrong with that live vid(only noticeable mistake was around 4:09) but it's not like it's impressive, seeing as it's not difficult to play.

it doesn't matter. Leave the thread alone.

*edit* honestly, i heard nothing wrong at the part you mentioned.

[Rev0lver]

The rhythm goes off beat for a second on that spot. And, you realize I'm going to keep posting every time you say something hostile or ignorant against me, because I don't just leave that alone.

[BuRn7 CaK3]

The rhythm goes off beat for a second on that spot. And, you realize I'm going to keep posting every time you say something hostile or ignorant against me, because I don't just leave that alone.

i still heard nothing wrong.

[Legion37]

There's nothing wrong with that live vid(only noticeable mistake was around 4:09) but it's not like it's impressive, seeing as it's not difficult to play.

I heard what you mean, Mick (guitarist) slightly pauses for a second, if your really listening you catch it.

[IBrokeMyDrums]

slipknot would be awesome in rb

[JMP5]

There was no mistake at 4:09. If there was, it was soo minor that you cant even tell unless you're examining the video closely. And, they are only human. Every band makes mistakes live at some point in time. I dont care who you are and how good you are.

[Ultimatum]

I can garentee Ultimatium is looking for anything by saying Slipknot cant play their music live. Which is total crap since I been to two concerts
Duality live

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0Pa1eYVqAc

and the studio version of Duality

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xps7AM8HbjE

Dont bring crap in here (for those that support and do not support Slipknot) do your research

When did I say SlipKnoT can't play live?

[Rev0lver]

I never said it was that big of a mistake. My point was that it shouldn't be difficult for them to play their songs live.

[BuRn7 CaK3]

*is laughing inside*

[JMP5]

Anyone gonna try to see Slipknot on their next tour? It starts in Oct. from what ive heard. I seen them on Mayhem Fest and will try to see them again.

[JMP5]

Nevermind for all the fans in the USA. I just seen that they are only playing in different countries. No USA dates.

[slipknotjrw1993]

slipknot would be amazing for RB

[TheAnte]

I'm in for this. Disappointed to not see any Slipknot in RB, RB2 or GH world tour...awesome band really.

[JMP5]

I cant believe this thread has now made it 2 days without a post.

[zulish5]

A Slipknot pack would be sick! My 6 would probably be...

1) Vermilion
2) Spit it Out
3) Psychosocial
4) My Plague
5) Duality
6) Wait and Bleed

[Mystlyfe77]

I cant believe this thread has now made it 2 days without a post.

So you find that a good excuse to bump it needlessly?

[DreAdAwaKeNinG]

I'd like to see some Slipknot too.

[Ultimatum]

JMP along with that KoRn thread guy are two of the worst bumpers in these forums.

I'd bet at least 40% of his posts are bumps.

[BuRn7 CaK3]

oh well. Who effing cares?

yes i know bumping is bad.

[ttobba88]

Slipknot is amazing. I saw them on their tour this summer, and they were great live. Songs that I would love to see on RB are:

1) Duality
2) Vermilion
3) The Blister Exists
4) Psychosocial
5) Wait and Bleed
6) Before I Forget
7) Pulse of the Maggots
8) The Nameless

All of those songs are great and would be awesome to have put up for DLC.

[Maxq333]

Slipknot Pack 01:
Before I Forget
Psychosocial
Duality

[ttobba88]

Sounds good to me!

[dethklok]

Slipknot Pack 01:
Before I Forget
Psychosocial
Duality

I second this :D

Probably wont happen though... a lot of Slipknot haters on here :/

[Unbelievable21]

Although it'd never happen, I'd prefer if they didn't choose the singles from Vol. 3. As good as they are, there are so many better songs. I want The NaMeLeSs! Three Nil! Pulse of the Maggots! (<Was that a single?)

[BuRn7 CaK3]

Although it'd never happen, I'd prefer if they didn't choose the singles from Vol. 3. As good as they are, there are so many better songs. I want The NaMeLeSs Three Nil! Pulse of the Maggots! (<Was that a single?)

actually, the nameless was a single.

[Unbelievable21]

Really now? Huh. I thought the only singles were Duality, Before I Forget, and Vermilion Pt. 2. Why haven't I heard that on the radion? :mad:

[BuRn7 CaK3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vol._3:_(The_Subliminal_Verses)

it's technically from Vol 3. (as the ALBUM) but the song came from 9.0 (which was a LIVE CD)

[JMP5]

what do you guys think will be Slipknot's next single from AHIG?

[shocktrooper4208]

^not in response to ur question
I Am Hated... loved it in Amplitude.... Love listening to It... I'd love playing it XD

[kornkidcrazy]

I'm down for slipknot. I'd like to see:

Psychosocial
Left Behind
Before I Forget

[dragonanthony86]

wait and bleed and psychosocial!!!

[bassHero]

Their new single is pretty tight. Duality would be a blast too.

[JMP5]

I would be willing to bet the next single will be the song Sulfur! Anyone agree with that?

[underlinedi]

I'm in. Sign me up for ...

Eyeless
Disasterpieces
Heretic Anthem

[Jokermaggot]

I would be willing to bet the next single will be the song Sulfur! Anyone agree with that?

Next single is gonna be Dead Memories it's been announced that there making a video for it and it's due to be realeased in Novemeber.

Song's I'd like to play on RB would be:
Spit it out (although I doubt it because they'd have to censor it alot)
Wait and Bleed.
Blister Exists
Gehenna
Left Behind
Pyschosocial
Duality.

All of those to me would be fun.

[oranjello_lamar]

def want slipknot on rockband songs i would like
The Namless
Duality
Pulse of the Maggots
Wait and Bleed

[Mega-Tallica]

Eyeless and Wait And Bleed are the only one's I would want. All other Slipknot is useless and repetitive.

[GodListensToSlayer]

We have enough Nu Metal as is, no need to be throwing the crappier nu metal bands in there.

[Mega-Tallica]

We have enough Nu Metal as is, no need to be throwing the crappier nu metal bands in there.

Actually man, there isn't that much. Besides from the Disturbed pack and I Stand Alone by Godsmack that's about it. SOAD isn't Nu-Metal, so they don't count.

[GodListensToSlayer]

Soad isn't nu metal? what are they then?

[Mega-Tallica]

Soad isn't nu metal? what are they then?

I have no idea, but they aren't Nu-Metal. They are kind of their own genre like Tool.

[GodListensToSlayer]

Tool is progressive...

[Mega-Tallica]

Tool is progressive...

Yes, they are, but the average person thinks Tool is Metal like the average person thinks SOAD is Nu-metal. It's a stereotype. I'd lable SOAD as alternative/progressive metal. Nobody else sounds like them, that's why they should have their own genre

[GodListensToSlayer]

Alternative, Sure. You should probably check the definition of Progressive though. :/ sorry bro

[timmay9]

I really hope Slipknot doesn't make it in the game. Every middle schooler I know say "OMG Slipknot is the best band ever, their drummer is the best ever, they even have percussionists which no other band has done." All three of those statements are wrong. Slipknots is just repetitive nu-metal trash, which has overshadowed much better metal acts that have come out in the past 10 years. If they get in, I'll be glad for those who wanted it. Just don't expect me to praise it if they announce it.

[Mega-Tallica]

Alternative, Sure. You should probably check the definition of Progressive though. :/ sorry bro

I understand progressive. Dream Theater, Redemption, and Liquid Tension Experiment are among my favorite bands. The odd time signatures is what makes progressive music the way it is. Whatever, dude, we're keeping this crappy thread alive when we should let it die. We are way off from talking about Slipknot...

[MaidenPriest420]

people would buy, i wouldnt but they should cause ill sell anyway

[timmay9]

Yes, they are, but the average person thinks Tool is Metal like the average person thinks SOAD is Nu-metal. It's a stereotype. I'd lable SOAD as alternative/progressive metal. Nobody else sounds like them, that's why they should have their own genre Now that's just not true. Their is no band that is their own genre. There will always be other copycat bands that try to emulate others sound. That goes for both Tool and SOAD, who have their fair share of imitators.

[Ultimatum]

I understand progressive. Dream Theater, Redemption, and Liquid Tension Experiment are among my favorite bands. The odd time signatures is what makes progressive music the way it is. Whatever, dude, we're keeping this crappy thread alive when we should let it die. We are way off from talking about Slipknot...

So Jazz and Fusion are Progressive then?

[Mega-Tallica]

So Jazz and Fusion are Progressive then?

No, I didn't mean that's the definition of progressive. I meant that's what makes the music different and enjoyable. Jazz is a great genre with odd time signatures and so is progressive. Why are we talking about this in a Slipknot Thread?

[Ultimatum]

So what makes Progressive music its own genre?