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bLiNdz0r
09-08-2008, 11:21 PM
I've been loving the metal out there right now, and with the All That Remains three pack, I just realized that in all honesty, I would prefer metal over ANY other DLC, and a lot of people agree.

I've been listening to some albums/artists that would be great, challenging DLC that also has talented musicians that isn't just a mess of crap like Cannibal Corpse.

So, with that said, here is my list of epic metal that needs to be DLC:

All Shall Perish - New Album has been leaked on the internet, and let me tell you HMX, if you EVER contact All Shall Perish and they agree for DLC, I would buy each song for $20 each. Technical drumming, amazing soloist, bassist is almost as technical as guitar. Vox is always going to be ehhh for metal as it is all talkies.

As I Lay Dying - Anything. Any songs. This band is so crazy that sometimes their live stuff sounds better than recordings. Honestly, the drummer has extremely fast double kicks, the solos aren't as difficult, but certainly epic, and the basslines are a bit easier which would be great mediocre metal DLC.

As Blood Runs Black - As I Lay Dying, but much more intense and technical instrumental parts, but All Shall Perish still takes the cake.

August Burns Red - Intense metal with hardcore-ish screams and would be eligible for most fun DLC, because the drummer uses like everything on his kit at least once in a song for a sweet chart, while the guitarist is very good (look up custom GH charts), and the bass would be a bit easier than the rest.

Protest The Hero - Honestly, this band needs to get much more popularity. They are so unknown, while they are (dead serious) the best metal band that coincides with each other. It's like one guy is so talented he plays all 5 parts at once and makes them interact that makes sex (no ****).

Unearth - As I Lay Dying, but faster tempos and MUCH more guitar solos and heavy intricate riffs.

Bring Me The Horizon - Breakdowns. Breakdowns. Pray For Plagues.

The Black Dahlia Murder - Jesus Christ, this would be tier 13 all instruments.

Darkest Hour - This band is like a melodic metal that has (I guess you could call it) harsh singing which includes pitch, making this a hard vocals artist along with every other instrument except for bass. The guitarist would easily hit the red on expert on sightread on most songs with solos. Sweep picking with (HAMMA ONS ADDED IN, lol) a solo to follow right after would shock even some of the top guitarists like Afterlife did.

Between The Buried And Me - Easily the most mixed metal in one band you can possibly get, from technical to breakdowns, these guys have it all.

If you have anymore bands that are in this category (not 80s+90s, CURRENT! etc. + silverstein, underoath etc.) then drop me a PM and I'll add it to the list.

MORE ROCK BAND METAL!

afterstasis
09-08-2008, 11:23 PM
are you saying that metal made in the 80's and 90's is "*****"?

bLiNdz0r
09-08-2008, 11:26 PM
I'll rephrase that. I mean stuff like Iron Maiden. That doesn't even sound metal, yet they're classified at metal. They should be in Rock or Hard Rock.

afterstasis
09-08-2008, 11:26 PM
I'll rephrase that. I mean stuff like Iron Maiden. That doesn't even sound metal, yet they're classified at metal. They should be in Rock or Hard Rock.

i strongly disagree.

bLiNdz0r
09-08-2008, 11:28 PM
Alright, I'll call it "80s" metal. I mean CURRENT metal.

Zeleii
09-08-2008, 11:28 PM
Maiden is classic metal... just because the guitars aren't distorted or the vocals aren't growled or screamed or the drums are constant 16-32th beats on the bass... doesnt mean it cant be metal

bLiNdz0r
09-08-2008, 11:35 PM
It can be classified as metal... just classic. Which in my opinion that now with the new wave of metal, it leans to the hard rock side.

Zeleii
09-08-2008, 11:46 PM
The "New Wave of Metal" is a joke... full of Nu-Metal and Metalcore bands...

Nazo64
09-08-2008, 11:47 PM
+1 for Protest the Hero!

Fortress for album dlc!

bLiNdz0r
09-08-2008, 11:55 PM
Alright, well quit the metal argument. It's almost as bad as console wars.

ThrobingCane
09-09-2008, 12:02 AM
Cannibal Corpse isnt a mess of crap.

I wouldnt buy any of the bands in the OP

Mystlyfe77
09-09-2008, 03:27 AM
I'll rephrase that. I mean stuff like Iron Maiden. That doesn't even sound metal, yet they're classified at metal. They should be in Rock or Hard Rock.

Are you kidding me? You don't call Maiden metal but you call all those [mostly] crap metalcore bands metal? Maiden is more metal than any of those bands, who all have strong hardcore influences in their music.
You don't have to have drop-D, over distorted, arpeggio running guitars in order to be metal. You don't need to alternate between screamed/growled vocals. You don't need double-bass. There are plenty of metal bands out there today that sound very similar to Maiden (look at power metal bands like Edguy, Symphony X, etc.). Don't try to pigeonhole the entire genre to one sub-genres sound.

kingtonyx
09-09-2008, 03:58 AM
there would be many, many people who could not beat Protest The Hero's songs

TANDA666
09-09-2008, 04:19 AM
I've been loving the metal out there right now, and with the All That Remains three pack, I just realized that in all honesty, I would prefer metal over ANY other DLC, and a lot of people agree.

I've been listening to some albums/artists that would be great, challenging DLC that also has talented musicians that isn't just a mess of crap like Cannibal Corpse.

So, with that said, here is my list of epic metal that needs to be DLC:

All Shall Perish - New Album has been leaked on the internet, and let me tell you HMX, if you EVER contact All Shall Perish and they agree for DLC, I would buy each song for $20 each. Technical drumming, amazing soloist, bassist is almost as technical as guitar. Vox is always going to be ehhh for metal as it is all talkies.

As I Lay Dying - Anything. Any songs. This band is so crazy that sometimes their live stuff sounds better than recordings. Honestly, the drummer has extremely fast double kicks, the solos aren't as difficult, but certainly epic, and the basslines are a bit easier which would be great mediocre metal DLC.

As Blood Runs Black - As I Lay Dying, but much more intense and technical instrumental parts, but All Shall Perish still takes the cake.

August Burns Red - Intense metal with hardcore-ish screams and would be eligible for most fun DLC, because the drummer uses like everything on his kit at least once in a song for a sweet chart, while the guitarist is very good (look up custom GH charts), and the bass would be a bit easier than the rest.

Protest The Hero - Honestly, this band needs to get much more popularity. They are so unknown, while they are (dead serious) the best metal band that coincides with each other. It's like one guy is so talented he plays all 5 parts at once and makes them interact that makes sex (no ****).

Unearth - As I Lay Dying, but faster tempos and MUCH more guitar solos and heavy intricate riffs.

Bring Me The Horizon - Breakdowns. Breakdowns. Pray For Plagues.

The Black Dahlia Murder - Jesus Christ, this would be tier 13 all instruments.

Darkest Hour - This band is like a melodic metal that has (I guess you could call it) harsh singing which includes pitch, making this a hard vocals artist along with every other instrument except for bass. The guitarist would easily hit the red on expert on sightread on most songs with solos. Sweep picking with (HAMMA ONS ADDED IN, lol) a solo to follow right after would shock even some of the top guitarists like Afterlife did.

Between The Buried And Me - Easily the most mixed metal in one band you can possibly get, from technical to breakdowns, these guys have it all.

If you have anymore bands that are in this category (not 80s+90s, CURRENT! etc. + silverstein, underoath etc.) then drop me a PM and I'll add it to the list.

MORE ROCK BAND METAL!

i have to agree here i listen to every one of the above listerd bands and there all amazing, metal for the masses

TANDA666
09-09-2008, 04:20 AM
i have to agree here i listen to everyone of these bands and there all amazing, metal for the masses

THRASHattack66
09-09-2008, 04:32 AM
The "New Wave of Metal" is a joke... full of Nu-Metal and Metalcore bands...

QFT!

i honestly dont think ONE band in the OP is metal

WhiffleBallTony
09-09-2008, 07:07 AM
I'll rephrase that. I mean stuff like Iron Maiden. That doesn't even sound metal, yet they're classified at metal. They should be in Rock or Hard Rock.
Ever heard of the "New Wave of British Heavy Metal"?


It can be classified as metal... just classic. Which in my opinion that now with the new wave of metal, it leans to the hard rock side.
That would be the "New Wave of American Heavy Metal". Notice the similarities between the two names?

Please, get your facts straight. Classic metal is Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Blue Cheer, and the like. Maiden is full fledged heavy metal. I assume that you only know the two songs in Rock Band, so I'll give you some stuff to listen to.

"Powerslave":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2H_ygk5hJI

"Hallowed Be Thy Name":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2za92DQOCw&feature=related

"Brighter Than a Thousand Suns":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvGilcbsYjM

Take a little while to chew on that.

EDIT: Wow, I just wasted my 3,000th post on this thread. Whatever, if it spreads the love of Maiden, I'm fine.

BigMonkE
09-09-2008, 07:16 AM
Oh, my bad. I thought this thread said Metal.

kingtonyx
09-09-2008, 07:18 AM
I will say some of the people replying are being just as bad by saying the bands he posted aren't metal..

Onslaught_fei
09-09-2008, 08:25 AM
HOLY ****ING MOTHER OF ****ING ****!

Iron Maiden NOT metal!?!?!?!?!? Holy goddamn hell! ITS FROZEN OVER!

Seriously, almost all of the bands you posted are less metal than Iron Maiden, they are metalcore with (metal with strong hardcore punk influences).

DethByAudio
09-09-2008, 08:31 AM
it looks like a progressive metal, and metalcore list with 2 deathcore bands and as i lay dying...

bring me the horizon, and the black dahlia murder would be sweet, and any newer darkest hour is ok... other than that no

i hate protest the hero's vocals

bmcorrier
09-09-2008, 08:37 AM
I already made a thread about Protest the Hero for DLC.

BTBAM is Progressive Metal.
As I Lay Dying, Bring Me The Horizon, Protest the Hero, Unearth, Darkest Hour, As Blood Runs Black, and August Burns Red would all be metalcore. Whether it's a heavier version of metalcore or not.

All Shall Perish would be deathcore.

These bands are not for everyone. It's all about preference and what you like.

I do listen to all of these bands, Protest the Hero and Between the Buried and Me being my two favorites hands down. But...if you are going to make a thread about them, I would strongly suggest you go about a different way of presenting it. Do your research about bands before you make a thread.

bassHero
09-09-2008, 08:41 AM
August Burns Red - Intense metal with hardcore-ish screams and would be eligible for most fun DLC, because the drummer uses like everything on his kit at least once in a song for a sweet chart, while the guitarist is very good (look up custom GH charts), and the bass would be a bit easier than the rest.


i was going to agree with you totally on EVERYTHING you just said, but what the hell is that? have you tried to play their stuff? its basically lead

bassHero
09-09-2008, 08:44 AM
I already made a thread about Protest the Hero for DLC.

BTBAM is Progressive Metal.
As I Lay Dying, Bring Me The Horizon, Protest the Hero, Unearth, Darkest Hour, As Blood Runs Black, and August Burns Red would all be metalcore. Whether it's a heavier version of metalcore or not.

All Shall Perish would be deathcore.

These bands are not for everyone. It's all about preference and what you like.

I do listen to all of these bands, Protest the Hero and Between the Buried and Me being my two favorites hands down. But...if you are going to make a thread about them, I would strongly suggest you go about a different way of presenting it. Do your research about bands before you make a thread.

dont be a genre nazi please, its extremely annoying and the posts bring no entertainment to the topic at all. everything you said is true, but they can all be summed up by just clasifying in the BROAD genre of Metal. duh?

Onslaught_fei
09-09-2008, 08:46 AM
dont be a genre nazi please, its extremely annoying and the posts bring no entertainment to the topic at all. everything you said is true, but they can all be summed up by just clasifying in the BROAD genre of Metal. duh?

I strongly disagree. If the OP is going to call out a heavy metal icon like Iron Maiden as "rock" and claim they are not metal than that definately calls for the common accepted music-terminology to come guns ablazing. If you are going to use the music-lingo, use it right.

And no you cant just say they are "BROAD genre of Metal" because thats offensive to all the great hardcore punk bands that have influenced many of the OP's bands. I have nothing against hardcore punk but you gotta pay the dues where dues are owed. Fast distorted guitars and harsh vocals are not staples of metal.

bassHero
09-09-2008, 08:49 AM
I strongly disagree. If the OP is going to call out a heavy metal icon like Iron Maiden as "rock" and claim they are not metal than that definately calls for the common accepted music-terminology to come guns ablazing. If you are going to use the music-lingo, use it right.

agreed, its pretty obvious that was a genre blunder. but i was just responding to his sub-classification of the stuff the OP was asking for DLC


And no you cant just say they are "BROAD genre of Metal" because thats offensive to all the great hardcore punk bands that have influenced many of the OP's bands. I have nothing against hardcore punk but you gotta pay the dues where dues are owed. Fast distorted guitars and harsh vocals are not staples of metal

what? are you serious? just because metal sounds different than it did, idk, 20 years ago, doesnt mean its not metal... lol. thats the simplist way to describe the 'fast distorted guitars and harsh vocals'. everyone knows what youre talking about if you say it, except for people like you of course

and btw, it looks like your negating your arguement just by simply looking at your signature...

bmcorrier
09-09-2008, 08:52 AM
dont be a genre nazi please, its extremely annoying and the posts bring no entertainment to the topic at all. everything you said is true, but they can all be summed up by just clasifying in the BROAD genre of Metal. duh?

I was point out the fact that if you classified these bands into their subgenres, the thread might not get flamed as much as it has already.

bassHero
09-09-2008, 08:56 AM
I was point out the fact that if you classified these bands into their subgenres, the thread might not get flamed as much as it has already.

i understand. i just think it shouldnt matter. besides, the topic subject would be like 15 words long if he listed every subgenre lol

Onslaught_fei
09-09-2008, 08:58 AM
what? are you serious? just because metal sounds different than it did, idk, 20 years ago, doesnt mean its not metal... lol. thats the simplist way to describe the 'fast distorted guitars and harsh vocals'. everyone knows what youre talking about if you say it, except for people like you of course

and btw, it looks like your negating your arguement just by simply looking at your signature...

Im not negating my argument at all with my sig. Look at how many metal bands use standard tuned guitars with clean vocals. You have sludge and doom bands (The Sword, Candlemass, Electric Wizard) that maintain tempos comparable to Black Sabbath. You have power metal and prog metal (Blind Guardian, Symphony X, Dream Theater) bands that use clean vocals in the high register. You have death and black metal bands that play their guitars in D standard tuning. (Opeth, Necrophagist, Dimmu Borgir)

However, all Hardcore punk bands use abrasive vocal styles and fast/distorted guitarwork. There are a plethora of bands that sound just like 1988 as well. Evile, Warbringer, Gama Bomb, Kreator, Megadeth, Testament... just the tip of the iceberg, my friend.

bmcorrier
09-09-2008, 08:59 AM
i understand. i just think it shouldnt matter. besides, the topic subject would be like 15 words long if he listed every subgenre lol

Yeah, that's true. But, like I said, classifying all of this into the broad of Metal, people are going to flame it. Or, just not say Metal at all, that would work too.

Onslaught_fei
09-09-2008, 09:02 AM
Yeah, that's true. But, like I said, classifying all of this into the broad of Metal, people are going to flame it. Or, just not say Metal at all, that would work too.

I dont think thats the issue. Metal is a pretty ****ing broad genre. I think the issue was calling Iron Maiden out ;p

bassHero
09-09-2008, 09:03 AM
Im not negating my argument at all with my sig. Look at how many metal bands use standard tuned guitars with clean vocals. You have sludge and doom bands (The Sword, Candlemass, Electric Wizard) that maintain tempos comparable to Black Sabbath. You have power metal and prog metal (Blind Guardian, Symphony X, Dream Theater) bands that use clean vocals in the high register. You have death and black metal bands that play their guitars in D standard tuning. (Opeth, Necrophagist, Dimmu Borgir)

However, all Hardcore punk bands use abrasive vocal styles and fast/distorted guitarwork. There are a plethora of bands that sound just like 1988 as well. Evile, Warbringer, Gama Bomb, Kreator, Megadeth, Testament... just the tip of the iceberg, my friend.

correction, i didnt mean all metal had changed. i guess what i meant was that the genre itself had broadened and grown since 20 years ago.

still, if the OP bands are metal bands w/ hxc punk influences, then theyre still metal. just a different form than, say, maiden

Der_Lex
09-09-2008, 09:04 AM
It's obvious now that f you want your request thread to get a lot of posts, you should start an argument about metal in it. The OP is very cunning.

Onslaught_fei
09-09-2008, 09:05 AM
correction, i didnt mean all metal had changed. i guess what i meant was that the genre itself had broadened and grown since 20 years ago.

still, if the OP bands are metal bands w/ hxc punk influences, then theyre still metal. just a different form than, say, maiden

Its all good.

Im just irritable because I have bad deadlines this week. ;p

Onslaught_fei
09-09-2008, 09:06 AM
It's obvious now that f you want your request thread to get a lot of posts, you should start an argument about metal in it. The OP is very cunning.

I will fight someone to the death over Iron Maiden!

stink-hole
09-09-2008, 09:33 AM
I have determined 3 thrings reading this thread...

1. If we put all of you in a room and locked the door, and you all put this much energy into arguments about oil dependency, new energy sources, the Middle East and world hunger, the world could be a better place.

2. Do not upset an Iron Maiden fan.

3. I have too much time on my hands and should really go do some work or something.

:D

Spandrel
09-09-2008, 10:58 AM
No offense, but to an outsider looking in, most of the nu-metal and metalcore artists just sound way too similar to distinguish Band A from Band B. Overloaded blast beats on the drum, screaming the lyrics during the verse and singing (in a similar key across all songs) on the chorus, and similar high-speed guitar riffs. I'm sure to devotees of the genre, there are subtle differences in the music between bands, but to the average outsider, these bands sound way to similar to have multiple DLC packs for each band. To many of us, the All That Remains DLC pack should satisfy fans of the genre for a while.

Again, this is my outsider's view of the genre.

deevineh8tred
09-10-2008, 01:50 AM
i like all the bands except protest the hero. also, that all shall perish album is sick! great stuff.

cannibal corpse comment wont go over well with most people in these forums that are into metal lol just sayin

deevineh8tred
09-10-2008, 01:58 AM
i was just reading the other posts in this thread...metal wars are entertaining. i think us metalheads should unite against some other forms of music if there is a need to argue at all. hhhmmm, maybe emo? that could be fun lol

Onslaught_fei
09-10-2008, 03:45 AM
i was just reading the other posts in this thread...metal wars are entertaining. i think us metalheads should unite against some other forms of music if there is a need to argue at all. hhhmmm, maybe emo? that could be fun lol

I would hang someone if Bruce Dickinson told me to! I dunno, metal has seem to splinter pretty bad recently. There are the newer bands who follow the influence of NWOBHM and that tree of bands and there are the other ones who branch off from the American hardcore scene, with a lot of young kids who toss words like screamo and hardcore around at anything.

Just looking at metal concerts in the local area recently. One guy has long straight hair, facial hair, a black death metal tee and some cut up jeans and another dood has short feathered hair with a tilted ballcap, really tight clothes, facial piercings, and tatoos up the arms. I think that pretty much sums up the metalhead versus the metalcorehead. Established metal versus the hardcore kids. Its all about goddamn culture and its pretty dumb imo.

Personally I dont like half the bands listed by the OP but I dont care to start a flame war. But seriously I dont like metalcore that much but damnit, when kids think Iron Maiden isnt metal the world is going to cease.

NathanM
09-10-2008, 01:31 PM
That's a decent list, and while I wouldn't mind having most of those as DLC, I would be estatic over Protest the Hero or BTBAM. Both of those bands are amazing and their absence from RB is saddening. (And yes, I know PtH had a DLC on GH.)

deevineh8tred
09-10-2008, 05:22 PM
I would hang someone if Bruce Dickinson told me to! I dunno, metal has seem to splinter pretty bad recently. There are the newer bands who follow the influence of NWOBHM and that tree of bands and there are the other ones who branch off from the American hardcore scene, with a lot of young kids who toss words like screamo and hardcore around at anything.

Just looking at metal concerts in the local area recently. One guy has long straight hair, facial hair, a black death metal tee and some cut up jeans and another dood has short feathered hair with a tilted ballcap, really tight clothes, facial piercings, and tatoos up the arms. I think that pretty much sums up the metalhead versus the metalcorehead. Established metal versus the hardcore kids. Its all about goddamn culture and its pretty dumb imo.

Personally I dont like half the bands listed by the OP but I dont care to start a flame war. But seriously I dont like metalcore that much but damnit, when kids think Iron Maiden isnt metal the world is going to cease.

i see what ur saying and yeah it pisses me off when classic metal bands don't get the recognition. i havent heard about maiden til this thread. im a big defender of sabbath, which gets the hard rock/classic rock label a lot when they are one of the first metal bands.

as far as the metalhead vs the metalcorehead goes, i see it a lot. the metalhead starts it with the core kid or vice versa, although i havent seen a core kid get into it with a metalhead. i prefer "true" metal over the core stuff, but i still like the core stuff.

i forgot where i was going with all of this lol, well im gonna get back to doing some mCAT review lol

stxbomber191
09-10-2008, 06:32 PM
http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78935

PTH fans, you now have a home.