Need More Death Metal!

[Raam]

Loved the Abnormality - Visions song. Rock Band needs more songs like this.

I realize there are a lot of people that are going to *****, and disagree, but keep it to yourself. Just because you don't like Death Metal doesn't mean there aren't other people that want it on Rock Band.

[echofly]

I like some death metal, but I don't like the Abnormality song.

[CherryBomb21]

god i hope not.

[DanB91]

i need some more comedic songs in my rb :)

[back_blows]

\m/ Deicide \m/

[afterstasis]

i'd like to see some old school death metal myself, but i'm afraid this is more suited for the ultimate setlist forum.

[Raam]

god i hope not.

Why not?

Is there something wrong with every fan of RB getting the songs they like?

[zeoavenger]

Put death metal as DLC only from now on. They need to keep this crap off the disc.

[Raam]

i'd like to see some old school death metal myself, but i'm afraid this is more suited for the ultimate setlist forum.

You're probably right.

[Raam]

Put death metal as DLC only from now on. They need to keep this crap off the disc.

Crap? That's just a matter of opinion. I think Jimmy Eats World is crap, but do you hear me complaining about it?

Thanks for the close minded opinion, though.

[afterstasis]

Put death metal as DLC only from now on. They need to keep this crap off the disc.

i disagree. i think every genre should get at least some representation on the game-discs, space permitted. i strongly believe that part of the fun of the discs is playing stuff you wouldn't normally get via DLC.

i'm currently enjoying some modern rock songs via RB2 that i wouldn't normally even consider buying via DLC. i would never listen to paramore or system of a down on my own time, but these songs are pretty fun for drums and i'm now glad that they were included.

[Mystlyfe77]

Put death metal as DLC only from now on. They need to keep this crap off the disc.

How is it any different than Linkin Park or Paramore or Bang Camaro being on the disk? Stifle your foolish remarks.


I'd love some Death metal, especially from Carcass, Death, Vader, or similar.

[zeoavenger]

Crap? That's just a matter of opinion. I think Jimmy Eats World is crap, but do you hear me complaining about it?

Thanks for the close minded opinion, though.

I didn't say no death metal. Just make it DLC. It's not a good listen to like 95% of America. I'm not playing Visions at a party with my friends. The only time I'll ever play it is when it randomly pops up in a setlist as the last song. To where I turn my volume down to zero and just play the raining skittles.

Face it the only people that like this stuff is 1) 1% of people that actually like death metal and 2) masochistic gamers that want stupidly hard note charts.

BTW - I'd gladly take JEW as nothing but DLC. No skin off my back.

[back_blows]

I didn't say no death metal. Just make it DLC. It's not a good listen to like 95% of America. I'm not playing Visions at a party with my friends. The only time I'll ever play it is when it randomly pops up in a setlist as the last song. To where I turn my volume down to zero and just play the raining skittles.

Face it the only people that like this stuff is 1) 1% of people that actually like death metal and 2) masochistic gamers that want stupidly hard note charts.

BTW - I'd gladly take JEW as nothing by DLC. No skin off my back.

Great, since we're listening to what 95% of America listens to, lets put some Flo-rida, Soulja Boy, Britney Spears and Nicklecrap.

[Mystlyfe77]

I didn't say no death metal. Just make it DLC. It's not a good listen to like 95% of America. I'm not playing Visions at a party with my friends. The only time I'll ever play it is when it randomly pops up in a setlist as the last song. To where I turn my volume down to zero and just play the raining skittles.

Face it the only people that like this stuff is 1) 1% of people that actually like death metal and 2) masochistic gamers that want stupidly hard note charts.

BTW - I'd gladly take JEW as nothing but DLC. No skin off my back.

Because so much of America listens to Bang Camaro, Freezepop, and Crooked X?

[zeoavenger]

Great, since we're listening to what 95% of America listens to, lets put some Flo-rida, Soulja Boy, Britney Spears and Nicklecrap.

I'm surprised Nickelcrap isn't already on there. :p Even Nickelback isn't as abrasive as deathmetal and is certainly has a more reasonable difficulty level so you only have to play it ONCE.

There is a reason Death Metal isn't played on the radio you know. The percentage of people that want to hear rock don't even want to hear death metal. If they did, it would be played on air. There are no death metal stations because there is no money in it. I'd love to see the CUME of death metal station though. :p

[afterstasis]

It's not a good listen to like 95% of America.

good news america, the percentage of death metal songs on the rock band 2 disc are proportionate to the number of fans based on zeoavenger's statistics!

1 song out of 84... 1 song out of 84...

[Mystlyfe77]

I'm surprised Nickelcrap isn't already on there. :p Even Nickelback isn't as abrasive as deathmetal and is certainly has a more reasonable difficulty level so you only have to play it ONCE.

There is a reason Death Metal isn't played on the radio you know. The percentage of people that want to hear rock don't even want to hear death metal. If they did, it would be played on air. There are no death metal stations because there is no money in it. I'd love to see the CUME of death metal station though. :p

That's not true. There are various Metal Stations around the country dedicated to Death Metal, as well as satellite radio and college radio stations. I know WKDU has about 6-10 hours of it a week.

[AFLthrasher235]

The thing thats puzzels me the most is why metal always gets hated on the most. Im happy to see rock band/rock band2 put a song like visions in, Do i personaly like it, No. I think there are sooo many better metal bands out there that sound better and have more talent, but i still dont hate on it.. People who complain about dlc content are dumb. If u dont like dont buy it.. They plan on 500 songs for rock by dec i think.. i know that metal wont be the leader in amount of songs on the list. But if rock band could just put this 1 song on i could care less what was after! Metal FTW and my 1 wish for RB2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXLbzB8GXQM :cool::cool:;);)

[zeoavenger]

good news america, the percentage of death metal songs on the rock band 2 disc are proportionate to the number of fans based on zeoavenger's statistics!

1 song out of 84... 1 song out of 84...

One song too many. Now the majority of RB players have to hope that garbage doesn't pop up in a random set. If you could exclude the stuff you didn't like from being selected then it's a non-issue.

[afterstasis]

One song too many. Now the majority of RB players have to hope that garbage doesn't pop up in a random set. If you could exclude the stuff you didn't like from being selected then it's a non-issue.

everyone has songs they dislike that pop up in random sets.
if you're not willing to risk that then you shouldn't be doing random sets.

[back_blows]

I'm surprised Nickelcrap isn't already on there. :p Even Nickelback isn't as abrasive as deathmetal and is certainly has a more reasonable difficulty level so you only have to play it ONCE.

There is a reason Death Metal isn't played on the radio you know. The percentage of people that want to hear rock don't even want to hear death metal. If they did, it would be played on air. There are no death metal stations because there is no money in it. I'd love to see the CUME of death metal station though. :p

I've stopped listening to the radio, because I found that it just doesn't fit my tastes. If HMX released nothing but radio friendly music, I would never have gotten into these games. By putting out niche genres like Death Metal, Ska, Goth, etc. they are only broadening their fanbase, as opposed to alienating their fanbase. I don't think I've met someone in these forums who decided he/she wasn't going to buy RB2 because it had one Death Metal song, however, I have met a couple Death Metal fans who suddenly become interested in RB2.

[afterstasis]

If HMX released nothing but radio friendly music, I would never have gotten into these games. By putting out niche genres like Death Metal, Ska, Goth, etc. they are only broadening their fanbase, as opposed to alienating their fanbase.

agreed. the main reason i got the game was because i saw the pixies were on board...

i then showed the game to three of my friends who are also fans of bands like the pixies, sonic youth, yeah yeah yeahs, and the like...
all of them now own their own copies of rock band.

[zeoavenger]

That's not true. There are various Metal Stations around the country dedicated to Death Metal, as well as satellite radio and college radio stations. I know WKDU has about 6-10 hours of it a week.

Stations that make money and play it during prime hours which is 6a-7p. Anything a radio station plays after that doesn't mean **** when it comes to money because listeners have dropped off to almost nothing. That's why the infomercials come on really late too. Some people like those too I hear.

For the record I'm not saying nobody should like death metal. HMX just needs to take into account the large percentage of people that hate it. These are also the songs that are the hardest to play. So its a double whammy. You don't want to be listening to it in the first place and it's a roadblock that you normally have to play over and over to get through it which increases your exposure to it. I don't mind hard songs but give me a hard song that isn't painful to listen to. There was nothing worse than in RB1 when Crooked X (because of the song) or GG&HT (because of the difficulty and length) came up. Talk about utter band deflation. :rolleyes:

[zeoavenger]

everyone has songs they dislike that pop up in random sets.
if you're not willing to risk that then you shouldn't be doing random sets.

BWT Mystery Setlist FTW. :rolleyes:

[back_blows]

Stations that make money and play it during prime hours which is 6a-7p. Anything a radio station plays after that doesn't mean **** when it comes to money because listeners have dropped off to almost nothing. That's why the infomercials come on really late too. Some people like those too I hear.

For the record I'm not saying nobody should like death metal. HMX just needs to take into account the large percentage of people that hate it. These are also the songs that are the hardest to play. So its a double whammy. You don't want to be listening to it in the first place and it's a roadblock that you normally have to play over and over to get through it which increases your exposure to it. I don't mind hard songs but give me a hard song that isn't painful to listen to. There was nothing worse than in RB1 when Crooked X (because of the song) or GG&HT (because of the difficulty and length) came up. Talk about utter band deflation. :rolleyes:

Actually, alot of people believe that HMX put Visions into the game based on difficulty. I personally believe it is a combination of trying to reach a genre that has been completely neglected by any rhythm game, exposing an up and coming band, and showing that women are capable of growling.

[Mystlyfe77]

Stations that make money and play it during prime hours which is 6a-7p. Anything a radio station plays after that doesn't mean **** when it comes to money because listeners have dropped off to almost nothing. That's why the infomercials come on really late too. Some people like those too I hear.

For the record I'm not saying nobody should like death metal. HMX just needs to take into account the large percentage of people that hate it. These are also the songs that are the hardest to play. So its a double whammy. You don't want to be listening to it in the first place and it's a roadblock that you normally have to play over and over to get through it which increases your exposure to it. I don't mind hard songs but give me a hard song that isn't painful to listen to. There was nothing worse than in RB1 when Crooked X (because of the song) or GG&HT (because of the difficulty and length) came up. Talk about utter band deflation. :rolleyes:

There's a large percentage of people that hate any band put on the disk. But I can't find anyone saying "oh crap, there's Death Metal on that game, I'm going to buy GHWT instead." People buy the game for the songs they like, not the one which has the least they dislike. I personally am thrilled for the PS3 release so I can play Visions.

[Mystlyfe77]

Actually, alot of people believe that HMX put Visions into the game based on difficulty. I personally believe it is a combination of trying to reach a genre that has been completely neglected by any rhythm game, exposing an up and coming band, and showing that women are capable of growling.

Also, they're from Massachusettes. HMX has a thing for Mass bands if you haven't noticed...

[back_blows]

Also, they're from Massachusettes. HMX has a thing for Mass bands if you haven't noticed...

Yep, forgot about that too. Honestly, I don't know why people complain about Bonus songs.

[afterstasis]

Also, they're from Massachusettes. HMX has a thing for Mass bands if you haven't noticed...

the singer works for HMX as an artist.

[zeoavenger]

agreed. the main reason i got the game was because i saw the pixies were on board...

i then showed the game to three of my friends who are also fans of bands like the pixies, sonic youth, yeah yeah yeahs, and the like...
all of them now own their own copies of rock band.


The Pixies, Sonic Youth and the Yeah Yeah Yeahs are completely different. First the songs are manageable in difficulty so you only have to play it once. They can put bands like this in all day. What if they released RB2 with 84 songs on the disc but excluded metal. Then the 20 FREEBIES for DLC were 80% nightmare/impossible difficulty metal songs. Everyone wins. That is how death metal should be handled.

[back_blows]

The Pixies, Sonic Youth and the Yeah Yeah Yeahs are completely different. First the songs are manageable in difficulty so you only have to play it once. They can put bands like this in all day. What if they released RB2 with 84 songs on the disc but excluded metal. Then the 20 FREEBIES for DLC were 80% nightmare/impossible difficulty metal songs. Everyone wins. That is how death metal should be handled.

That is an interesting method, but I think you're forgetting the fact that part of Rock Band 2 is playing songs you normally would never listen to. As one of the HMX mods mentioned earlier Rock Band isn't your personal iPod.

[zeoavenger]

There's a large percentage of people that hate any band put on the disk. But I can't find anyone saying "oh crap, there's Death Metal on that game, I'm going to buy GHWT instead." People buy the game for the songs they like, not the one which has the least they dislike. I personally am thrilled for the PS3 release so I can play Visions.


You can't get away from it on GH either. :D

[afterstasis]

The Pixies, Sonic Youth and the Yeah Yeah Yeahs are completely different. First the songs are manageable in difficulty so you only have to play it once. They can put bands like this in all day. What if they released RB2 with 84 songs on the disc but excluded metal. Then the 20 FREEBIES for DLC were 80% nightmare/impossible difficulty metal songs. Everyone wins. That is how death metal should be handled.

i disagree.
first of all, if it's about difficulty why aren't you upset about the steely dan song? i thought this was about the music...

second of all, like i mentioned above, segregating music in that manner is a guarantee that people won't try anything new...
surely you haven't noticed that HMX is one of the few companies out there who still likes to push for the underdog and hopefully enlighten people who have never bothered to look very deeply into music beyond their local wal-mart's cd racks.

also, most people are failing the sonic youth songs on expert drums at least their first run. it's pretty tough. :)

[zeoavenger]

That is an interesting method, but I think you're forgetting the fact that part of Rock Band 2 is playing songs you normally would never listen to. As one of the HMX mods mentioned earlier Rock Band isn't your personal iPod.

If they are free everyone will DL them anyway. Who turns down free stuff? Then if they really really hate it there is a simple solution. Also, a hide option would work too. Kinda like a soft delete that hides the song on the setlist and makes it so it won't be used in any random setlist. It'd still be used for challenges. But you know what you're getting into there.

[afterstasis]

If they are free everyone will DL them anyway. Who turns down free stuff? Then if they really really hate it there is a simple solution. Also, a hide option would work too. Kinda like a soft delete that hides the song on the setlist and makes it so it won't be used in any random setlist. It'd still be used for challenges. But you know what you're getting into there.

oh, i agree that a hide/delete option would be handy, though i think it would be best if it was only available after playing a song a few times so people still give the songs a chance before banishing them.

[destruction3402]

Stations that make money and play it during prime hours which is 6a-7p. Anything a radio station plays after that doesn't mean **** when it comes to money because listeners have dropped off to almost nothing. That's why the infomercials come on really late too. Some people like those too I hear.

For the record I'm not saying nobody should like death metal. HMX just needs to take into account the large percentage of people that hate it. These are also the songs that are the hardest to play. So its a double whammy. You don't want to be listening to it in the first place and it's a roadblock that you normally have to play over and over to get through it which increases your exposure to it. I don't mind hard songs but give me a hard song that isn't painful to listen to. There was nothing worse than in RB1 when Crooked X (because of the song) or GG&HT (because of the difficulty and length) came up. Talk about utter band deflation. :rolleyes:
In your opinion. Oh by the way, hi, I'm from Sweden, a country in Europe. In Sweden (death) metal is arguably the most popular genre among middle age people (17-25). Well, I'm not talking for every Swedish guy out there playing RB, but I'm sure many of us wants death metal on the disc. Many metal pioneers are from Sweden, and from our neighbours Norway and Finland (which also are huge death-metal fanbases).
I don't know how popular death metal is in the US, but if you speak the truth, then I can easily ascertain that death metal is by far more popular here in Sweden, much more popular than genres like Prog, Southern Rock, Glam rock and Emo. Especially among people < 25 years old (majority of the gamers).

[back_blows]

If they are free everyone will DL them anyway. Who turns down free stuff? Then if they really really hate it there is a simple solution. Also, a hide option would work too. Kinda like a soft delete that hides the song on the setlist and makes it so it won't be used in any random setlist. It'd still be used for challenges. But you know what you're getting into there.

I've turned down free stuff before :p Theoretically, you would have to do this for all songs, so as to be impartial.

[Hastyl3]

I'm surprised Nickelcrap isn't already on there. :p Even Nickelback isn't as abrasive as deathmetal and is certainly has a more reasonable difficulty level so you only have to play it ONCE.

There is a reason Death Metal isn't played on the radio you know. The percentage of people that want to hear rock don't even want to hear death metal. If they did, it would be played on air. There are no death metal stations because there is no money in it. I'd love to see the CUME of death metal station though. :p

That's why the fan base is such a hardcore fanbase. It's kind of like an inside joke. If you don't know what drives it now, you never will.

[zeoavenger]

i disagree.
first of all, if it's about difficulty why aren't you upset about the steely dan song? i thought this was about the music...

second of all, like i mentioned above, segregating music in that manner is a guarantee that people won't try anything new...
surely you haven't noticed that HMX is one of the few companies out there who still likes to push for the underdog and hopefully enlighten people who have never bothered to look very deeply into music beyond their local wal-mart's cd racks.

also, most people are failing the sonic youth songs on expert drums at least their first run. it's pretty tough. :)


Normally metal and insane difficulty go hand in hand do they not? The Steely Dan song is just hard. Not hard to play and hard to listen to. Listening to someone growl on a mic isn't good music to almost everyone. That's the difference. Sure you may hate Steely Dan but the majority doesn't mind it, as opposed to you like Visions but the majority doesn't. Metal is a very niche audience and death metal is a niche of that niche.

I don't know about you but I don't need HMX playing musical elitist with these games. They should leave the hardcore of the hardcore to free DLC.

Expert drums on anything owns me so... :p

[afterstasis]

Normally metal and insane difficulty go hand in hand do they not? The Steely Dan song is just hard. Not hard to play and hard to listen to. Listening to someone growl on a mic isn't good music to almost everyone. That's the difference. Sure you may hate Steely Dan but the majority doesn't mind it, as opposed to you like Visions but the majority doesn't. Metal is a very niche audience and death metal is a niche of that niche.

I don't know about you but I don't need HMX playing musical elitist with these games. They should leave the hardcore of the hardcore to free DLC.

Expert drums on anything owns me so... :p

i like steely dan. :)

HMX is actually doing quite the opposite of playing musical elitist here, though... they are including everything! pop, hip-hop, classic rock, death metal, etc.
if anything, you're being a bit of a musical elitist by suggesting that a style of music shouldn't be allowed on the disc based on it's genre/difficulty.

[zeoavenger]

In your opinion. Oh by the way, hi, I'm from Sweden, a country in Europe. In Sweden (death) metal is arguably the most popular genre among middle age people (17-25). Well, I'm not talking for every Swedish guy out there playing RB, but I'm sure many of us wants death metal on the disc. Many metal pioneers are from Sweden, and from our neighbours Norway and Finland (which also are huge death-metal fanbases).
I don't know how popular death metal is in the US, but if you speak the truth, then I can easily ascertain that death metal is by far more popular here in Sweden, much more popular than genres like Prog, Southern Rock, Glam rock and Emo. Especially among people < 25 years old (majority of the gamers).


Regional games can be different. You should tailor a game to the tastes of the country you are selling to. Of course, offer all that content that other countries got at DLC for everyone. Just like the European release of RB1. Now if only Sweeden likes death metal and the rest of europe hates it then DLC. What difference does it make if you get it on the disc or as free DLC when you buy the game?

[R33DH4M]

Cryptopsy for RB!!!

[back_blows]

Regional games can be different. You should tailor a game to the tastes of the country you are selling to. Of course, offer all that content that other countries got at DLC for everyone. Just like the European release of RB1. Now if only Sweeden likes death metal and the rest of europe hates it then DLC. What difference does it make if you get it on the disc or as free DLC when you buy the game?

If HMX tailored this game to Canada, we'd get nothing but Nicklecrap, Rush and Shania Twain:(. Doesn't look to appetizing to me.

[afterstasis]

If HMX tailored this game to Canada, we'd get nothing but Nicklecrap, Rush and Shania Twain:(. Doesn't look to appetizing to me.

you oughta know! ;)

[zeoavenger]

If HMX tailored this game to Canada, we'd get nothing but Nicklecrap, Rush and Shania Twain:(. Doesn't look to appetizing to me.

Isn't Canada in the same region as the US? There'd be no change there. I should have said region, not country. :(

[zeoavenger]

i like steely dan. :)

HMX is actually doing quite the opposite of playing musical elitist here, though... they are including everything! pop, hip-hop, classic rock, death metal, etc.
if anything, you're being a bit of a musical elitist by suggesting that a style of music shouldn't be allowed on the disc based on it's genre/difficulty.

I'm not excluding it. I'm just making it optional, whereas HMX is force feeding you a very very niche audience song. Everyone would try a free DLC song once so the exposure is still there. Just like recently released Charlene. Who didn't download that and try it once?

What's done is done though. I do hope you guys get all the death metal DLC you can handle. As long as they throw in a little grunge every now and again I'm good.

[limelight_rush]

Sure, they can keep adding more metal (like this 9 weeks) and HMX can finally change the name to "Metal Band". Which should have been the name of RB2

[prowlingDead]

I like visions, No i can't play it on expert drums and probably not on hard either, but thats whats great about RB2 you can set your difficulty without having to back all the way out, and really people should stay out of forums marked DEATH METAL if you don't like it, it would be nice to have a nice discussion without a bunch of drama and closed minded people. Granted I don't always play these type of songs, but I do have the kill everything phase and want to play songs like that. It goes all the way back to at the gates, I can't do crap on drums except on medium, but I can do expert guitar and vocals so I enjoy that.... Just because your bad at a song doesn't make it crap.
Also, dont remember the name but someone said "overcharted" I haven't done it with this song but if you go to practice and slow down the drum track on AT the Gates, you can hear more notes that aren't there, Therefore in all reality, they're "undercharted"

[Rev0lver]

Sure, they can keep adding more metal (like this 9 weeks) and HMX can finally change the name to "Metal Band". Which should have been the name of RB2

Let's see, the past 9 weeks:

MC Frontalot
Locksley
Duran Duran
Devo
Airbourne
Sixx AM
Buckcherry
Shinedown
Staind
NIN
The Who
Scars On Broadway
Thenewno2


^^^that's pretty br00tal

I've been pushing for Necrophagist, Arsis, Behemoth, Cynic, etc for a while, but I can't stand Visions personally.

By the way, zeoavenger, what's wrong with an attempt from Harmonix to bring some attention to death metal? It's a great and diverse genre that too many people get the wrong impression of. You might change your mind if you listen to a few different bands.

[prowlingDead]

how can RB2 be called Metal Band??? there's only

Avenged Sevenfold (kinda)
Metallica
Judas Priest
Testament
Abnormality
and Megadeth, which I don't see that song as a metal song more just hard rock


OMG your right it should be METAL BAND! THERE'S JUST SO DAMN MANY! ARRGGG!

[Raam]

I didn't say no death metal. Just make it DLC. It's not a good listen to like 95% of America. I'm not playing Visions at a party with my friends. The only time I'll ever play it is when it randomly pops up in a setlist as the last song. To where I turn my volume down to zero and just play the raining skittles.

Face it the only people that like this stuff is 1) 1% of people that actually like death metal and 2) masochistic gamers that want stupidly hard note charts.

BTW - I'd gladly take JEW as nothing but DLC. No skin off my back.

Way to make up numbers. It's a good thing people like you aren't woking on the game.

[Rev0lver]

Megadeth is most certainly metal. You also missed Dream Theater, Motorhead, Lacuna Coil, and Mastodon.

But yeah, there's really not that big a percentage of metal in RB2. Plus the fact that only one of them is death metal.

[prowlingDead]

Ya I missed a couple your right, but still thats only like 10 bands outta 84
and I never said Megadeth wasn't Metal, I said that one sounds more like Hard Rock

[Raam]

Stations that make money and play it during prime hours which is 6a-7p. Anything a radio station plays after that doesn't mean **** when it comes to money because listeners have dropped off to almost nothing. That's why the infomercials come on really late too. Some people like those too I hear.

For the record I'm not saying nobody should like death metal. HMX just needs to take into account the large percentage of people that hate it. These are also the songs that are the hardest to play. So its a double whammy. You don't want to be listening to it in the first place and it's a roadblock that you normally have to play over and over to get through it which increases your exposure to it. I don't mind hard songs but give me a hard song that isn't painful to listen to. There was nothing worse than in RB1 when Crooked X (because of the song) or GG&HT (because of the difficulty and length) came up. Talk about utter band deflation. :rolleyes:

Who said anything about money? No one gets into a Death Metal band to make money. They do it for the love of the music.

And by your logic, Harmonix should take into account the people that hate DM, but not take into account the many people that do?

[prowlingDead]

More or less avenger doesn't believe that any band that he can't play should be in the game

[Mystlyfe77]

You can't get away from it on GH either. :D

Really? I'm pretty sure that only one death metal song has ever been featured in the GH franchise, and that was by Dethklok.

[RockoW]

In your opinion. Oh by the way, hi, I'm from Sweden, a country in Europe. In Sweden (death) metal is arguably the most popular genre among middle age people (17-25). Well, I'm not talking for every Swedish guy out there playing RB, but I'm sure many of us wants death metal on the disc. Many metal pioneers are from Sweden, and from our neighbours Norway and Finland (which also are huge death-metal fanbases).
I don't know how popular death metal is in the US, but if you speak the truth, then I can easily ascertain that death metal is by far more popular here in Sweden, much more popular than genres like Prog, Southern Rock, Glam rock and Emo. Especially among people < 25 years old (majority of the gamers).

Yep, this is totally true. I also think RB needs more death metal. However HMX need to listen more to what people want, instead of putting At The Gates on there. There are a ton of melodic death metal bands that would fit alot better than old school death metal.

[dedman818]

Listen Harmonix!

I will buy any Death Metal DLC you release!
Love the music, Love the challenge!

[Mystlyfe77]

Yep, this is totally true. I also think RB needs more death metal. However HMX need to listen more to what people want, instead of putting At The Gates on there. There are a ton of melodic death metal bands that would fit alot better than old school death metal.

At the Gates IS melodic death metal. Hell, they are one of the principle founders of Melodeath. Plus I remember a lot of people wanting (and still wanting) At the Gates.

[Onslaught_fei]

Yep, this is totally true. I also think RB needs more death metal. However HMX need to listen more to what people want, instead of putting At The Gates on there. There are a ton of melodic death metal bands that would fit alot better than old school death metal.

Dood you are from Sweden! You should know ATG are _THE_ premiere melodeath godfathers. It was from Earache, Earache doesnt have Dark Tranquillity under their label (Century Media) or In Flames (Nuclear Blast) or any of the other melodeath powerhouses.

Having said that... really want Century Media and Nuke Blast to get packs.

[Onslaught_fei]

Megadeth is most certainly metal. You also missed Dream Theater, Motorhead, Lacuna Coil, and Mastodon.

But yeah, there's really not that big a percentage of metal in RB2. Plus the fact that only one of them is death metal.

There ie more metal than RB1 or GHWT though.

[deevineh8tred]

Dood you are from Sweden! You should know ATG are _THE_ premiere melodeath godfathers. It was from Earache, Earache doesnt have Dark Tranquillity under their label (Century Media) or In Flames (Nuclear Blast) or any of the other melodeath powerhouses.

Having said that... really want Century Media and Nuke Blast to get packs.

those would be some kick ass packs

[RockoW]

Dood you are from Sweden! You should know ATG are _THE_ premiere melodeath godfathers. It was from Earache, Earache doesnt have Dark Tranquillity under their label (Century Media) or In Flames (Nuclear Blast) or any of the other melodeath powerhouses.

Having said that... really want Century Media and Nuke Blast to get packs.

What I mean is that RB need new DM tracks, not tracks from some disabanded crew, godfathers or not. I never really liked ATG, probably why I prefer something else. ;)

[Mystlyfe77]

What I mean is that RB need new DM tracks, not tracks from some disabanded crew, godfathers or not. I never really liked ATG, probably why I prefer something else. ;)

They were touring in 2008, you know. ;)

A lot of us, myself included, love At the Gates. I'm still horribly upset that I couldn't make it up to NY to see them... :(

[deevineh8tred]

They were touring in 2008, you know. ;)

A lot of us, myself included, love At the Gates. I'm still horribly upset that I couldn't make it up to NY to see them... :(

yeah i went to the chicago show, it was really good. i think they just got back together for the tour because if you go on their myspace they make the comment "enjoy it while it lasts" referring to the 2008 reunion. it is too bad. all i gotta say is the dark tranquillity needs to come to the u.s. for a tour, i have yet to see them so i need to.

[Mystlyfe77]

yeah i went to the chicago show, it was really good. i think they just got back together for the tour because if you go on their myspace they make the comment "enjoy it while it lasts" referring to the 2008 reunion. it is too bad. all i gotta say is the dark tranquillity needs to come to the u.s. for a tour, i have yet to see them so i need to.

Yeah, it's unfortunate. Also note how it was called the "Suicidal Final Tour." :(
At least the Haunted just put out a new CD (not out in the US 'til next month though).

As for DT, I saw them when they toured with Arch Enemy on the Tyranny & Bloodshed Tour last year. They were pretty sweet, but their set was a bit short (only 45 minutes). They didn't play as much old stuff as I wanted, but their new stuff is far better than In Flames' or Soilwork's new stuff, so I really didn't mind too much. They sound terrific live too.

[DethByAudio]

Century Media, Metal Blade packs needed

[deevineh8tred]

Yeah, it's unfortunate. Also note how it was called the "Suicidal Final Tour." :(
At least the Haunted just put out a new CD (not out in the US 'til next month though).

As for DT, I saw them when they toured with Arch Enemy on the Tyranny & Bloodshed Tour last year. They were pretty sweet, but their set was a bit short (only 45 minutes). They didn't play as much old stuff as I wanted, but their new stuff is far better than In Flames' or Soilwork's new stuff, so I really didn't mind too much. They sound terrific live too.

yeah dt's new stuff definitely sticks to what melodeath really is, unlike in flames and soilwork. i hope they come out here soon

[VeHeMeNcE]

Yes please!

[gore_slogger]

Lets get some BLACK METAL straight from hell! some burzum, some nattefroste or hmmmm satyricon?

[deevineh8tred]

Lets get some BLACK METAL straight from hell! some burzum, some nattefroste or hmmmm satyricon?

sounds good to me

[Deaphman TMVC]

Mortal Treason, Bloodlined Caligraphy (awesome female vocalist).

[Chubbaluphigous]

Put death metal as DLC only from now on. They need to keep this crap off the disc.

I could say the same about Journey/Queen/Boston. The point is something for everybody.

[SiReZ]

i would love some cannibal corpse...some hammer smashed face, ****ed with a knife, i *** blood, man this would so please me

[Pastadude]

Nah, not if it's going to be mediocre local bands. Too hard, no accessible enough, and the choices won't please any death metal fans. I love Morbid Angel, but I know a lot of people (and metal fans) who hate them. And a lot of people love Cradle of Filth (ok, I know it's black metal, but let's not split hairs. We're talking "Extreme" metal here. The sub-sub-genres. It's ok here.) but I detest them.

Problem with metal heads is that if you do their sub-genre, you better get it right. You put in Fear Factory, not Asesino or Divine Heresey, Sepultura, not Soulfly (although Soulfly is actually pretty good) Cannibal Corpse, not Paths of Posession.

Choosing metal songs for video games seems to be a daunting task once you pass bands that have had top 40 singles or Billboard charting top 20 albums. The Roadrunner pack for example expirimented a bit with DevilDriver and yes, even with Machine Head. Neither band is as big as some other acts on Roadrunner. Hell, Roadrunnner could have added Nickelback or Slipknot, two insanely popular artists out there today. I think HMX did a good job and so did Roadrunner with the song choices.

Not to say that HMX hasn't dropped the ball in terms of their expected response. The Earache pack (a FANTASTIC pack. At The Gates?! C'mon!! Now we need some Carcass!) I'm sure isn't all THAT popular. Plus, they released the new Soilwork single for GH2 right before GH3 came out. All those tracks are excellent, but probably didn't get that big of a response as they usually hope for. So picking something for everyone (espically metalheads) is really hard.

So no, no more death metal. Unless it's a ridicliously popular band (Say... Dethklok?) sub-sub-genres of metal are touchy. I wouldn't consider any band in Rock Band death metal aside from At The Gates and Abnormality. The rest of the metal bands are other sub-genres, like Metalcore(All That Remains) or Progressive metal (DT) and Death metal seems to be a whole new playing field that should't be tampered with just yet.

[afterstasis]

Nah, not if it's going to be mediocre local bands. Too hard, no accessible enough, and the choices won't please any death metal fans. I love Morbid Angel, but I know a lot of people (and metal fans) who hate them. And a lot of people love Cradle of Filth (ok, I know it's black metal, but let's not split hairs. We're talking "Extreme" metal here. The sub-sub-genres. It's ok here.) but I detest them.

Problem with metal heads is that if you do their sub-genre, you better get it right. You put in Fear Factory, not Asesino or Divine Heresey, Sepultura, not Soulfly (although Soulfly is actually pretty good) Cannibal Corpse, not Paths of Posession.


i disagree.
maybe things are changing (and if so, thumbs down to that), but in my experience fans of extreme metal are typically more than ready to give new and unknown bands a chance.

[Mondoxdoobie101]

I say the more the better, I actually like doing vocals for them because I do actually growl in a metal band. The guitar for abnormility(Sp?) was pretty crazy, I would like to see that FC'ed. I was barely able to get through it doing the impossible guitar battle.

I would love to have a,

Necrophagist Pack:
Only ash Remain(Crazy Bass solo at the begining)
Fermented Offal Discharge(Possibly one of the greatest Death Metal Solos)
Stabwound(Just damn good)

[back_blows]

Lets get some BLACK METAL straight from hell! some burzum, some nattefroste or hmmmm satyricon?

Care to explain how the vocals will be charted for Burzum?

[afterstasis]

Care to explain how the vocals will be charted for Burzum?

*insert joke about prison sex and nazism*

[Pastadude]

i disagree.
maybe things are changing (and if so, thumbs down to that), but in my experience fans of extreme metal are typically more than ready to give new and unknown bands a chance.

I'm talking about the sub-sub-genres though. If we keep it simple, no one can really lose. Obviously not as simple calling Disturbed and System of a Down our choices for "real" metal. (And that's CLEARLY not the case so far, which is good) but bands that have been on big summer tour slots can't really be all that wrong.

Lamb of God, In Flames, Black Label Society, Shadows Fall, Soilwork, maybe Iced Earth are all bands that kinda fit that bill. They're all really good bands that have moderate mainstream success and are obviously more accessible than say, I dunno, Pestilence or Nuclear Assault.

Me though, I'll give anything a listen.

[afterstasis]

I'm talking about the sub-sub-genres though. If we keep it simple, no one can really lose. Obviously not as simple calling Disturbed and System of a Down our choices for "real" metal. (And that's CLEARLY not the case so far, which is good) but bands that have been on big summer tour slots can't really be all that wrong.

Lamb of God, In Flames, Black Label Society, Shadows Fall, Soilwork, maybe Iced Earth are all bands that kinda fit that bill. They're all really good bands that have moderate mainstream success and are obviously more accessible than say, I dunno, Pestilence or Nuclear Assault.

Me though, I'll give anything a listen.

i understand where you're coming from...

but on the other hand, i don't like a single band you listed there. :)

[chasewolf]

I thought Visions was Grind not Death...

I would love to see Vader or Quo Vadis in the game though.

[grosbouba]

Need Opeth :)

[Mystlyfe77]

*insert joke about prison sex and nazism*

Varg has clearly said he's an Odalist, not a Nazi (anymore). In other words, he's a Viking Nazi. :p



Lamb of God, In Flames, Black Label Society, Shadows Fall, Soilwork, maybe Iced Earth are all bands that kinda fit that bill. They're all really good bands that have moderate mainstream success and are obviously more accessible than say, I dunno, Pestilence or Nuclear Assault.

Me though, I'll give anything a listen.

I only like the first two bands mentioned, and only In Flames' first 5 albums. Metal fans tend to like the obscure more than the mainstream in my opinion. There are always fans of the mainstream bands who have been around and still support them, but they're not going to universally like all the mainstream bands. I suggested a Lamb of God song for a groove pack in another thread and everyone was like "I'd buy everything but the LoG."

[afterstasis]

Varg has clearly said he's an Odalist, not a Nazi (anymore). In other words, he's a Viking Nazi. :p


i actually thought he had publically denounced the viking thing like he did the nazi thing after that came around to bite him in the butt. :)

i love burzum, but that dude was at one point probably the most confused and wishy-washy person in all of europe! :)

[bdrizzle14]

Loved the Abnormality - Visions song. Rock Band needs more songs like this.

I realize there are a lot of people that are going to *****, and disagree, but keep it to yourself. Just because you don't like Death Metal doesn't mean there aren't other people that want it on Rock Band.

you're right, there are people that want more of it, but i would rather have some other genres that have not even begun to be represented in this game, such as jam bands, reggae, ska, blues, and hip-hop.

[Quaddity]

Entombed And Carcass

[Mystlyfe77]

i actually thought he had publically denounced the viking thing like he did the nazi thing after that came around to bite him in the butt. :)

i love burzum, but that dude was at one point probably the most confused and wishy-washy person in all of europe! :)

Lol exactly. He's not a viking. He's not a Nazi. He's a viking-nazi. ;)

Odalism is such a screwed up belief system. It takes a horrendously morphed version of pagan/norse beliefs and mixes them with the nationalist and ethnic beliefs of Nazism. Basically anyone who isn't germanic is inferior.

[back_blows]

you're right, there are people that want more of it, but i would rather have some other genres that have not even begun to be represented in this game, such as jam bands, reggae, ska, blues, and hip-hop.

Grateful Dead 6-pack, SRV and MC Frontalot?

[afterstasis]

Grateful Dead 6-pack, SRV and MC Frontalot?

don't forget no doubt and beastie boys! :)

but really, those genres need more love as well as goth, industrial, funk, jazz, etc.

[back_blows]

don't forget no doubt and beastie boys! :)

but really, those genres need more love as well as goth, industrial, funk, jazz, etc.

They do. Perhaps I mis-interpreted his quote but I read it as stop releasing metal and focus on these genres.

[Plan B]

Put death metal as DLC only from now on. They need to keep this crap off the disc.

Go home...

[kennethv]

I, for one, wouldn't mind playing Progenies Of The Apocalypse, With Stength I Burn, Spheres Of Madness, New Millenium Cyanide Christ, Blacken The Cursed Sun, Deliverance, Shifting Channels, Make Them Suffer, or Murder Train A' Comin'.

Sound like a good pack to me!

[Djratchet]

Bring me dethklok DLC HMX!

[Pastadude]

don't forget no doubt and beastie boys! :)

but really, those genres need more love as well as goth, industrial, funk, jazz, etc.

Industrial needs some none NIN love. There's a ton of industrial bands out there and only NIN is in this game. I would love to see some Skinny Puppy or Clawfinger, Fear Factory, or Cop Shoot Cop.

[deevineh8tred]

Industrial needs some none NIN love. There's a ton of industrial bands out there and only NIN is in this game. I would love to see some Skinny Puppy or Clawfinger, Fear Factory, or Cop Shoot Cop.

not a big industrial fan myself, but fear factory would be sweet

[BonyGrunt]

I'm all for more (any) metal, but I honestly hate that Visions song. It really is just noise. Everything in that song has no recognizable pattern, rhythm or anything. Plus it's boring to play. Hard, but boring. Let's aim for something more like Meshuggah or Slayer.