RockBand.com


View Full Version : Future drummers



BenGmanUk
11-19-2007, 03:44 AM
I think it's fair to say that GH spouted a whole bunch of new guitarists who went out and bought their first real guitar.

Given that electric drums have come down in price and are far more practical for most people than real acoustic drums (I think thats the term) how many people are going to go out and buy a set of roland/yamaha drums once they've exhausted expert?

I'm already 100% sure that I'm going to love drumming and have always wanted to try it. I've even measured up my spare room for a set but havn't managed to convince the misses that we don't infact need a spare bed. Aparently we have guests sometimes. ^^

I really quite fancy a set of these anyway.

http://www.nisse567.com/graphics/td3kw.jpg

Anyone else given it any thought or have already splashed out?

:)

vtjustinb
11-19-2007, 03:53 AM
I got to play on a Roland TD-20k recently and it was unreal:

http://www.roland.com/products/com/TD-20K/images/top_M.jpg

I tried the first round of vdrums back in the last 90s and was impressed with the advance over rubber heads, but it still didn't feel good enough to justify the cost.

These newer waves of Roland kits are sweet as hell though, and I've considered getting a set since I'm usually in apartments and my set has been in storage for years as a result. Plus it'd be fun to jam online with some of my friends.

EliteXFactor
11-19-2007, 03:54 AM
I have a Roland 6sw and I don't recommend it, I regret buying it. But I recommend a Roland..if you're going to get a electronic drum kit I'd prefer Roland but a cheaper set... Over time I've realized that playing and listening to electronic drums just seems dead after the first few months of fun playing. Sure, the 6sw built up my speed but playing an electronic is not as exilerating as playing an acoustic. But electronic sets are ideal for compact areas and less maintenace.

Have a happy future drumming, I would also recommend Tommy Igoes DVDs 'Getting Started on Drums,' and 'Groove Essentials' or just plain ol' drum classes.

brauks
11-19-2007, 03:55 AM
That's a tough one. I'm curious to see how many people go and shell out for real drums after playing through rock band. For me, I'm already a beginner drummer, and already have a set of drums.

The thing you'll find is that playing real drums by yourself will not be as exhilirating as playing with friend in Rock Band. So that means that you'll need to find people to jam with, or a real band. To do that, you'll need to move your drums a lot. People tell me that acoustic drums are a heck of a lot easier to move than electric drums.

If you're serious about playing real drums, I'd say hook yourself up with a beginner acoustic set. Down the road if you get *real* serious into it, you can upgrade components of your kit as you go along.

NotorietyH
11-19-2007, 03:55 AM
I'm definitely getting a drum set next year sometime, not sure whether I'm going for a standard or electric set, but once I'm good enough at expert on drums in Rock band, I'm picking up a set of some description.

ImaAsian
11-19-2007, 04:01 AM
That's a tough one. I'm curious to see how many people go and shell out for real drums after playing through rock band. For me, I'm already a beginner drummer, and already have a set of drums.

The thing you'll find is that playing real drums by yourself will not be as exhilirating as playing with friend in Rock Band. So that means that you'll need to find people to jam with, or a real band. To do that, you'll need to move your drums a lot. People tell me that acoustic drums are a heck of a lot easier to move than electric drums.

If you're serious about playing real drums, I'd say hook yourself up with a beginner acoustic set. Down the road if you get *real* serious into it, you can upgrade components of your kit as you go along.

+1 on that bro. im and intermediate drummer and also in a band and i can sure say that its not as fun playing by yourself. u gotta make sure u have friends that wanna jam out or start a band or something, thats how i decided to buy a drumset.

MJDoja
11-19-2007, 04:01 AM
i love acoustic sets.. BUT.. v-drums are bad ass too

idiotec
11-19-2007, 04:01 AM
I have been thinking of getting something like this as well. I had a set of drums in college and played casually. It was loads of fun.

Any more though, the loudness of typical drum sets just isn't practical. An electronic kit would be perfect.

BubbaC
11-19-2007, 04:05 AM
i've had a few drumsets.. i love drumming.. big problem is they are LOUD!! no matter what accoustics sets can be heard a mile a way.. i tried the the damper pads.. but hated it. i like playing instruments how they should be played.. LOUDER THAN HELL! and i've been apartment jumping for a few years now. and with out a practice space, it's just not practical for me to have a set and electric kits are too expensive for me.

which is why i am psyched about this game. i get to jam with buddies and learn to play with out annoying my neighbors (ok thats a lie but its definitely better than banging on a real set).

it may not be the real thing.. but it the closest i am gonna be able to get for a while..

BenGmanUk
11-19-2007, 04:16 AM
The thing you'll find is that playing real drums by yourself will not be as exhilirating as playing with friend in Rock Band. So that means that you'll need to find people to jam with, or a real band. To do that, you'll need to move your drums a lot. People tell me that acoustic drums are a heck of a lot easier to move than electric drums.

If you're serious about playing real drums, I'd say hook yourself up with a beginner acoustic set.

Well unfortunately I don't have the room for an acoustic set right now. That and the fact my neighbours wouldn't appreciate the noise. They already have to put up with my bad guitar playing. :)

A cool feature of most electric drums is that you can at least play along to a backing track. Yeah okay its no-where near as cool as playing in a band I'd imagine but still a useful feature to have.

vtjustinb
11-19-2007, 04:22 AM
There's a guy near where I live that rents out one of those outdoor storage places just for his drumset.

I'll drive by it some times and he'll be there with the metal door wide open and just absolutely beasting the drums in there by himself music blasting. Always makes me happy. :P

BenGmanUk
11-19-2007, 04:25 AM
My parents neighbours son plays an acoustic set in his shed at the bottom of the garden. It's quite funny watching the rage in my mums face when he starts.

His mate even popped round with a guitar amp plonked in the middle of the garden once.

:D

tf5_bassist
11-19-2007, 04:32 AM
My guitarist recently bought TD-6SXT V-Tour set (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Roland-TD6SXT-VTour-Electronic-Drum-Set?sku=447840) for his home recording...

http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/regular/6/3/2/495632.jpg

They're super fun to play on in a small room, have a lot of interesting set sounds, but at the end of the day, they're just not the same as an acoustic set... But incredibly practical for recording.

Plus, he put on his double-bass pedal and it works just fine. Since, y'know, apparently double-bass is super important around here lol...

vtjustinb
11-19-2007, 04:47 AM
I think Omar Hakim put it well in that you shouldn't look at electronic instruments as a replacement for acoustic--but rather a new instrument entirely.

Just like an electric guitar can never truly reproduce the tone and color of an acoustic, it did however open the way for more creative uses (feedback, effects, etc).

Electronic drums are cool because you can do things with them impossible to reproduce on an acoustic set--but the feel will never quite be the same, you're right there.

WillDrum4Food
11-19-2007, 06:29 AM
I've had a TD-6V for the last few years and love the %$&# out of it...

That said, I've replaced the rubber pads with mesh-head pads. They feel much more comfortable.

I'll eventually save up for the TD-20 module but I'm having a blast with the 6 now.

You could spend $2000 on a kickass acoustic kit but you'd be spending a truckload more on sound mufflers if you plan on keeping the kit in your home.

I can bash around on this badboy at 3 in the morning with some headphones and no-one else gets bothered. :D

Sure, I'll always love acoustic kits but, realistically, the only advantage to having acoustic is if you're actually in a band.

If you are (or plan on being) a "casual drummer", go electric.

They take up little room, you don't need to think about "sound-proofing" your home and most importantly, with sound reproduction technology being what it is today, it's like having a hundred kits in one. :D

parastroke7
11-19-2007, 06:39 AM
For those of you who feel that playing drums by yourself isn't as fun as playing in a band, I disagree. Most of the "musicians" around here play the same stuff all the time, and it gets boring to play to that stuff each and every time you jam with them.

What they don't get is that you have to sound good by yourself to sound good in a band. What, do they think it's some kind of magical alchemical sound mixture type thingy that totally covers up your un-rock, JUST because there are three terrible sounds happening at once? I wish they'd learn.

For seven years, I've never been in a serious band. but I play daily or every other day. Myself is all I've got here in this redneck sector of the United States. In a land where "Git R Dun" actually helps shape your social image if you say it, a man like me may as well be his own band. It's learning the guitar that I just can't make myself do.

vtjustinb
11-19-2007, 06:51 AM
I've had a TD-6V for the last few years and love the %$&# out of it...

That said, I've replaced the rubber pads with mesh-head pads. They feel much more comfortable.

I've thought about getting the TD-6V for a while now, and it seems like a good idea to go for the $2000 version just because it already has the toms upgraded to mesh heads (which are about a $600 upgrade, and the version with rubber tom pads costs $500 less).

How expandable is the module in the TD-6 series? If I wanted to add another cymbal or two, or another tom can it handle it? Honestly my experience with electronic sets is pretty limited and it seems enticing.

WillDrum4Food
11-19-2007, 07:34 AM
How expandable is the module in the TD-6 series? If I wanted to add another cymbal or two, or another tom can it handle it? Honestly my experience with electronic sets is pretty limited and it seems enticing.


You get one of these:

http://www.rolandus.com/products/productdetails.aspx?ObjectId=224

I'll be getting one of these soon.

Got these extra rubber pads... should do something with 'em, huh?? ;)