Failing songs on easy, need help.

[Rastabot]

I tried the tutorial and it was so crappy.
I don't know the difference between Octaves and pitch, and the tutorial doesn't bother to explain it.
It seem like I'm never "low enough" my arrow is always higher. I have a deep voice also.
I wanted to enjoy singing but I fail on the first tier songs on easy.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thxs in advance

[AVC808]

im no vocal coach, but if you understand tuning, it's pretty much the same concept, just with voices and not instruments. listen to a song and try to match it as close as you can. play a CD and practice that way.

[monstrado]

I hate you for having it before me :)

not sure bro, I hate singing personally...unless i'm in my car...alone

[Jixzer]

I hate you for having it before me :)

not sure bro, I hate singing personally...unless i'm in my car...alone

You sound just like me! :)

[BodhiWolff]

Pitch is the correct note, and the octave is the same note but one whole notch higher or lower.

So a "C" note is always a "C" note, and as long as you sing a "C" on pitch, the game will register as true. You can sing it an octave higher than the original, or an octave lower, and it doesn't matter. So for men singing along to a recording originally done by a woman, often your note isn't as "high" as the one being sung by the woman, but it is the same pitched note. You're both singing the same note, but the man is singing it in a lower octave.

Every 8th white key on a piano is a "c" note. They all sound the same. They have the same pitch. They're 8 notes apart -- hence "octave", from the root word for eight.

So if you sing "on pitch", you're singing the correct note pitch -- whether you're singing it an in a higher octave or a lower octave shouldn't matter.

So it seems to me that your pitch isn't registering. Either ...
a) Your microphone isn't working correctly. Try singing louder, or softer.
OR ...
b) your lag/system isn't calibrated correctly (read on a blog that mis-calibration can make scoring vocals extremely difficult)
OR ...
c) some people just have a really tough time singing on key. they swear that they're singing on key in their own head, but everybody around them knows that they're way off base.

I'm not saying which one it is. Hopefully it is just a technical issue that can be worked out. I'd try rebooting, and re-calibrating your system. I'd go through the tutorial again, slowly.

Then I'd try having somebody listen to you sing while you're singing along with the recording, and ask them if you're actually singing "on pitch" (even if you're singing in a nice, deep octave lower than the original, it doesn't matter).

[Rastabot]

I think I must be doing something really wrong or missing an aspect of singing because I get the words and length right but still fail. It should not be this hard on easy.
So should I try to sound like the singer, OR figure out what note the singer is in and sing that note in a octave comfortable to me? If it is the latter one, how do I figure out the note the singer is doing?
I'm fine with singing being this complicated on expert but it shouldnt be on easy.
Yes this is with the official rock band mic.

[joeincolorado]

I think I must be doing something really wrong or missing an aspect of singing because I get the words and length right but still fail. It should not be this hard on easy.
So should I try to sound like the singer, OR figure out what note the singer is in and sing that note in a octave comfortable to me? If it is the latter one, how do I figure out the note the singer is doing?
I'm fine with singing being this complicated on expert but it shouldnt be on easy.
Yes this is with the official rock band mic.

Just give up and give me the game...lol. J/K

I don't know what to tell you, man. According to an interview I saw, you're not supposed to sound just like the singer...you just have to match pitch and tempo and stuff like that. Try singing a song you know well. If you fail that well, you might not have a soul.

[JesterOC]

Just a guess. If you have a low voice and you are showing up as too high.. perhaps you need to go higher as you may be an octive lower than you need to be.

JesterOC

[WolfBrigade]

So should I try to sound like the singer,

I would recommend that at the start, seeing as how you sound like you have no prior singing experience and are not doing too well on easy. I'm not the best singer but when I do sing, I have a much lower voice than any of the songs in Rock Band, I think. Thus, I don't sound like singer, but I think I do.

Lol, if that made any sense I hope it helped.

[Keebler]

Perhaps you're holding the mic to close to your mouth.

[Quastor]

Perhaps you're holding the mic to close to your mouth.

This, or is the mic even of good quality? Did you purchase the bundle, or the individual disc and provide your own mic?

[Patch_]

This, or is the mic even of good quality? Did you purchase the bundle, or the individual disc and provide your own mic?


Yes this is with the official rock band mic.

So that can't be the problem but I'm no singer so I have no clue.

[MrNazraq]

I'd say, if you're singing as low as you can, try to gradually sing higher.

As the little arrow goes higher, it'll reach the top. If you sing even higher, it'll go back to the bottom (meaning you've reached the next octave).

Then from there you continue to gradually sing higher until the arrow reaches where it needs to be.

So, the arrow only shows where you are in your current octave. I'm not sure how many octaves there are, but I know there are 4 singing ranges: Soprano, Tenor, Alto, and Bass.

(and then there's falsetto that's higher than soprano, that's basically only sung by castrated Austrian boys, and then baritone that's lower than bass...)

[JohnnyFAS]

I'd say, if you're singing as low as you can, try to gradually sing higher.

As the little arrow goes higher, it'll reach the top. If you sing even higher, it'll go back to the bottom (meaning you've reached the next octave).

Then from there you continue to gradually sing higher until the arrow reaches where it needs to be.

So, the arrow only shows where you are in your current octave. I'm not sure how many octaves there are, but I know there are 4 singing ranges: Soprano, Tenor, Alto, and Bass.

(and then there's falsetto that's higher than soprano, that's basically only sung by castrated Austrian boys, and then baritone that's lower than bass...)

Actually, baritone is between bass and tenor, so it goes: soprano, alto, tenor, baritone, bass

And for the OP, i suggest you practice singing scale, as in do, re, mi, fa, so, la, ti, do. If you do not know how, listen to the song from the Sound of Music. Not rock, certainly, but basic singing method, sure.

Also, the second do in the scale is the new octave, just like every 8th note is a c.

[mltdwn]

And falsetto and soprano are the same. Women who sing in a high register are soprano, men who sing in the same register are falsetto.

Edit: Correction Sopranos are middle C to A5. Falsetto is higher, and is considered "artifically raised" and outside the singer's voice range (i.e. it is the head voice instead of the chest or middle voice which is the proper singing range).

[Quastor]

So that can't be the problem but I'm no singer so I have no clue.

I will learn to read one of these days!

[LongDarkBlues]

I can't imagine you could be that far off - the guy I saw sing at Best Buy was terrible - really, really way off and still managed to get in the 80%s on Easy.

[Rock_Starman]

Just a shot in the dark...but have you got an accent of some sort? Not sure if that would affect things.

[MrNazraq]

Doh, sorry about the misinformation on the singing ranges there. I just added that last part as a guess.

[ChodTheWacko]

(and then there's falsetto that's higher than soprano, that's basically only sung by castrated Austrian boys)

Or the bee gees.

Falsetto is pretty useful, actually, if a song is only slightly higher than your vocal range.
You can get a few notes higher than you can normally, although if you push it you start sounding like a dying cat.....

[ChodTheWacko]

I get the words and length right but still fail.

Then your problem is pitch.



So should I try to sound like the singer, OR figure out what note the singer is in and sing that note in a octave comfortable to me? If it is the latter one, how do I figure out the note the singer is doing?


I wouldn't do the former. The song might be out of your range. You should try that initially, but if the song is too high/too low, you need to do the latter.

You can figure out what note the singer is singing by using the arrow, which indicates
what pitch (or note) you are currently singing at. You need to match the singer's note,
using the octave of your choice.

Now you said before you didn't know what an octive is.

Go here:
http://www.bgfl.org/bgfl/custom/resources_ftp/client_ftp/ks2/music/piano/index.htm

Each key is a different note, and the higher octave is numbered with 1's.
so C1 is the same note as C, but an octave higher. Same for D1 and D, and
D#1 and D#.

If you can, find a note you can sing exactly. Let's say it's E.
While you are singing E, play E1 on the keyboard. It should almost sound like
you are singing the same note. Now while you are singing E, play D#1.
It won't sound right.

This is because E1's frequency is double the frequency of E. Same goes for D1 and D. D1's frequency is twice D's. So they 'match'.

For a larger keyboard which is three octaves wide, go here:
http://www.pianoworld.com/fun/javapiano/javapiano.htm

Again, you need to learn to hear the similarity between C, C1, and C2.



Each song has a melody. THe melody is a series of pitches/notes, and you need to learn to match this. The key is, you just need to match the note i.e. C.

Let's pretend the song's current note is C. And you are singing, and you can't get that low - you can only sing as low as E. No problem - start singing higher until you are singing C1. The game won't care - you are singing a C and it is happy.

You should practice by not even worrying about the words of the song, or how long you are singing each word. Just go 'la la la la la' and learn to match the pitch. That's a pretty normal way to learn new songs - learn the melody first, then worry about the words.

Hope this helps a bit.

- Frank

[LongDarkBlues]

I have a feeling there is going to be some rude awakenings for some people who think they can sing - my roommate is a great guy, but sings in the most unrelated-to-the-melody monotone that I'm sure will not go over well in this game. I'm hoping he sticks to bass!