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Freakshow
11-20-2007, 12:20 AM
We don't have access to the DLC that is up on the US Marketplace!

When will we be able to buy these tunes? Metallica, Police, Queens of the Stone Age, and lots of single songs are up too!

DYoungEagle
11-20-2007, 12:34 AM
Dec 19, release date

mick123
11-20-2007, 12:40 AM
Hey, let's punish the thousands of Canadian customers who will go to the trouble of importing our product!

Thanks so much, again, Harmonix!

FlyinWhee
11-20-2007, 01:11 AM
I thought no DLC was up even on the US XBL? I think people are rushing to conclusions here.

mmorgan184
11-20-2007, 01:13 AM
I thought no DLC was up even on the US XBL? I think people are rushing to conclusions here.

I've already downloaded a few of the songs from XBL Marketplace for Rock Band. I live in the U.S. and it is definitely up.

Super_Chicken
11-20-2007, 01:15 AM
I wonder about the people importing PS3 versions. Unless they lock it out over PSN as well. :mad: Bad enough we have to wait an extra month.

Maherj
11-20-2007, 01:30 AM
Are you serious? Noooo!

Jealleo
11-20-2007, 01:30 AM
I thought no DLC was up even on the US XBL? I think people are rushing to conclusions here.

It isn't or wasn't last time I checked.

kanerules
11-20-2007, 01:36 AM
Well, I live in Canada...and will getting a RB bundle soon...I'm not going to flip out over this or anything, I'd just like an official answer, confirming that if Canada does get DLC at its launch, all the stuff between now and then will show up. Please....the DLC I'm most looking forward to is old school Metallica.

Bakkster
11-20-2007, 01:47 AM
Hey, let's punish the thousands of Canadian customers who will go to the trouble of importing our product!

Thanks so much, again, Harmonix!

Hey, the people in the US who had the game early didn't have DLC either. Count your blessings that you even have a copy and remember: beggars can't be choosers.

XeroTalent
11-20-2007, 01:49 AM
Hey, the people in the US who had the game early didn't have DLC either. Count your blessings that you even have a copy and remember: beggars can't be choosers.

Yeah, seriously. I'm one of the people without one for another month, so stop you're whining.

espher
11-20-2007, 01:50 AM
Meh, I could wait a month to download more crap. I'd rather not, but I could. :p

mick123
11-20-2007, 02:08 AM
We're not "beggars," we're paying customers, and today is the official street date in Canada, supply issues notwithstanding. That some people won't even have the game for a while is irrelevant: if they'd failed to release the DLC in the U.S. on time people would be going ballistic, and wouldn't be any less annoyed if a bunch of Europeans helpfully chimed in to opine that people should stop "whining" because the game isn't even available in Europe.

Bakkster
11-20-2007, 02:20 AM
We're not "beggars," we're paying customers, and today is the official street date in Canada, supply issues notwithstanding.

No it's not, you just thought or wish it was.

vtjustinb
11-20-2007, 02:27 AM
I don't see why someone who got a game before it is released in his region is throwing around a sense of entitlement. HMX owes you nothing until they release it in Canada.

I remember I got the super famicon version of Super Mario 3 imported with a converter so I could play it early, but I definitely didn't expect anyone to translate the Japanese for me...

Ultrace
11-20-2007, 02:27 AM
We're not "beggars," we're paying customers, and today is the official street date in Canada, supply issues notwithstanding. That some people won't even have the game for a while is irrelevant: if they'd failed to release the DLC in the U.S. on time people would be going ballistic, and wouldn't be any less annoyed if a bunch of Europeans helpfully chimed in to opine that people should stop "whining" because the game isn't even available in Europe.
It isn't the official street date in Canada and, as such, you're no more deserving of the DLC today that the people who broke street date in America were deserving of a patch to make guitars work. You got the game early, that should be more than enough. So, honestly, I have no sympathy over how you can't get the DLC like regions where the game has been officially released.

People will go "ballistic" over anything. But it's a lot more justifiable when they can't have something they should be able to have. This is not the case here.

slayer15
11-20-2007, 02:41 AM
to make myself feel better about the delay i told myself "hey, at least there will be weeks worth of dlc available when i finally get rock band in dec." also, won't this mean that canadian dlc will always be weeks behind the US? let's say in june 2008, US gets a song, then 3-4 weeks later canada gets it. i hope that's not the case.

SteppinRazor
11-20-2007, 02:49 AM
Hey, lets hope its not as bad as XBL Video Market Place.

Us Canadians don't even have it yet. A full year now since it rolled in the US, we're still getting told that they're planning to release it in Canada, maybe by the end of the year.

/crosses fingers, hopes for best.

mick123
11-20-2007, 03:06 AM
Today is, in fact, the official Canadian street date for this product, as per both Harmonix press releases and the announcements of retailers. Any units actually shipped to Canada can be sold as soon as they arrive as of today---that is, by definition the street date is today. Also, Canada and the U.S. are in the same region for media products. The game is released here, it's just not available here, there is a distinction between those two concepts.

But put that aside: Harmonix is well-aware that thousands of Canadians will get the game prior to them actually shipping it to Canada, and have chosen to withhold DLC nonetheless. I am sure you can understand why that's annoying to those of us who have gone to the hassle and expense of importing their product. Can you think of nothing better to do with your time than write posts with no other purpose than to further antagonize people?

mick123
11-20-2007, 03:09 AM
Hey, lets hope its not as bad as XBL Video Market Place.

You can thank the CRTC for that. You can thank Harmonix for the lack of DLC for Rock Band.

XeroTalent
11-20-2007, 03:17 AM
Today is, in fact, the official Canadian street date for this product, as per both Harmonix press releases and the announcements of retailers. Any units actually shipped to Canada can be sold as soon as they arrive as of today---that is, by definition the street date is today. Also, Canada and the U.S. are in the same region for media products. The game is released here, it's just not available here, there is a distinction between those two concepts.

But put that aside: Harmonix is well-aware that thousands of Canadians will get the game prior to them actually shipping it to Canada, and have chosen to withhold DLC nonetheless. I am sure you can understand why that's annoying to those of us who have gone to the hassle and expense of importing their product. Can you think of nothing better to do with your time than write posts with no other purpose than to further antagonize people?

Just because you say today's the official release date does not make it so.

You don't get much more official than having 0 games on the shelf in the whole country. Don't agree? Go find one in a store and prove everyone wrong.



Can you think of nothing better to do with your time than write posts with no other purpose than to further antagonize people?

Can you think of nothing better to complain about, considering you've got a nice shiny game to play that most other Canadians don't have?

I'm pretty sure you'll get little sympathy from anyone here.

SteppinRazor
11-20-2007, 03:18 AM
Well, lets hope its just HMX/EA and not the CRIA eh?

If the CRTC wants a taste as data goes across the border, why wouldn't the CRIA?

Like I said though, for now I'm just hoping for a speedy and positive resolution.

dakota629
11-20-2007, 03:27 AM
I as A Canadian was lucky to get a rock band bundle for the PS3. Ithink the reason its delayed in Canada is because of the french inserts.

Spear_of_Destiny
11-20-2007, 03:28 AM
in the meantime, enjoy fall out boy and other crappy songs you have to repeat for a month while your neighbors to the south get creamy, smooth, sugary dlc to replace all those crap songs.

incidentally, could you send patrick roy back down to colorado? we need him again...

Bakkster
11-20-2007, 03:32 AM
I as A Canadian was lucky to get a rock band bundle for the PS3. Ithink the reason its delayed in Canada is because of the french inserts.

Exactly, if you want to blame someone, blame the Québécois.

SteppinRazor
11-20-2007, 03:45 AM
Saying to blame Quebec is ******ed.

Even IF, and its a big if, the delay actually has to do with the bilingual packaging, that is hardly Quebec's fault. That has been the law here forever, anybody who does business with Canada knows it.

So IF, again, I am highly skeptical of the bilingual excuse, if that turns out to the reason, the blame lays with EA, a company who knows the laws, a company who has shipped countless games to Canada, on time, with french-language packaging and instruction manuals, and never had a problem with it before.

So lay off Quebec, and if are going to tell people to blame somebody, blame EA.

mick123
11-20-2007, 03:46 AM
Just because you say today's the official release date does not make it so.

I didn't say today is the official release date, Harmonix did. Apparently you didn't grasp the distinction between "unreleased" and "unavailable": try finding one in a store in the U.S. three days from now --- would your failure imply that the game is unreleased in the U.S. or unavailable in the U.S.?




Can you think of nothing better to complain about, considering you've got a nice shiny game to play that most other Canadians don't have?

I'm pretty sure you'll get little sympathy from anyone here.


I am certain every other Canadian has exactly the same opportunity to import the game than I did. And it would seem that many other people who imported the game are similarly irritated, if you'd actually have a look at other posts in the thread.

XeroTalent
11-20-2007, 03:55 AM
I didn't say today is the official release date, Harmonix did. Apparently you didn't grasp the distinction between "unreleased" and "unavailable": try finding one in a store in the U.S. three days from now --- would your failure imply that the game is unreleased in the U.S. or unavailable in the U.S.?




I am certain every other Canadian has exactly the same opportunity to import the game than I did. And it would seem that many other people who imported the game are similarly irritated, if you'd actually have a look at other posts in the thread.

You can split hairs however you want, argue about word definitions... whatever; it is what it is: it's not available in Canada.

You got the game, congratulations. Now you're *****ing because you circumvented the Canadian release/availability/accessibility/obtainability/whatever ****ing word you want to call it, and now there's no DLC for you and everyone else in your boat for another month.

Cry me a river. Most of us are still waiting for the game that you don't even seem to want to play until you get your precious DLC.

Anyway, I'm done. Enjoy your game.

Bakkster
11-20-2007, 03:56 AM
Saying to blame Quebec is ******ed.

I didn't say Quebec. I said the Québécois, because of whom all Canadian packaging must include French. RTFP.


Even IF, and its a big if, the delay actually has to do with the bilingual packaging, that is hardly Quebec's fault. That has been the law here forever, anybody who does business with Canada knows it.

So IF, again, I am highly skeptical of the bilingual excuse, if that turns out to the reason, the blame lays with EA, a company who knows the laws, a company who has shipped countless games to Canada, on time, with french-language packaging and instruction manuals, and never had a problem with it before.

So lay off Quebec, and if are going to tell people to blame somebody, blame EA.

From a post by Sean (http://community.rockband.com/vbforum/showthread.php?p=111273&highlight=canada#post111273), regarding packaging issues:

That is the reason. If I were trying to cover for some gigantic conspiracy against Canada I would have phrased it like this "Delays in Canada? This is due to complying with the Patriot Act so as not to inadvertently deliver the game into the wrong hands." I know it stinks, I liked Canada up until one of them started threatening to kick my ass and called me incompetent.

Feel free to not believe Sean, if you must. Also, you would probably be correct in blaming EA for this issue.

DaMan12
11-20-2007, 03:57 AM
I didn't say today is the official release date, Harmonix did. Apparently you didn't grasp the distinction between "unreleased" and "unavailable": try finding one in a store in the U.S. three days from now --- would your failure imply that the game is unreleased in the U.S. or unavailable in the U.S.?

I am certain every other Canadian has exactly the same opportunity to import the game than I did. And it would seem that many other people who imported the game are similarly irritated, if you'd actually have a look at other posts in the thread.

Can i ask you how you imported the game? Because i live in Toronto and had a friend in Indiana who was going to buy the game and ship it to me, but both UPS and Fedex would only ship a box that size with overnight air shipping that costs a minimum of $132. There is no chance in hell I am going to pay that.

I do not own a car and even if i could find a ride/way to buffalo for a midnight release (since thats really the only guaranteed way to get it) i cannot go because of my job. I am a 20 year old university student on a coop work term and i work 7am-3:30pm daily and I have no priveleges since i'm basically an intern. So taking time off is not an option for me, how would you suggest I could import the game while only paying retail price?

I understand you anger of the dlc somewhat and i know today is still the north american release date, but I don't see why your complaining on the 1st day. If you really hate the 58 songs included in the game so much you need DLC hours after getting the game then why did you spend $170 on it?

SteppinRazor
11-20-2007, 04:00 AM
Quebec/Quebecois - difference without a distinction in this case.

If it helps, re-read my post substituting the word of your choice.

HMXSean doesn't know any more than the rest of us on this matter, I don't think he's lying, just repeating bogus info he got from some unnamed source in EA. This is all on EA's side.

vtjustinb
11-20-2007, 04:03 AM
I will excuse this ridiculous Canadian outcry only because I love Jeremy Hotz.

ShadowOfEden
11-20-2007, 04:12 AM
I wonder if it is even possible, at least for the PS3, to make something available to the US store and not Canadian store.

They both share the same network : North America.

mick123
11-20-2007, 04:19 AM
Can i ask you how you imported the game?

I bought the DVD only, not the bundle, from CD Universe. According to Fed Ex it will arrive in the next couple of hours. (If the game were available in Canada I would have purchased the bundle---buying just the DVD is my little way of saying thanks to EA/Harmonix for the way they've treated Canadian customers.)




I understand you anger of the dlc somewhat and i know today is still the north american release date, but I don't see why your complaining on the 1st day.


The fact that they did not release the DLC in Canada today, but did in the U.S., means it's unlikely DLC will be available until units are supplied to Canada in mid to late December, if then. The major reason I wanted this game is because of some of the announced DLC; I'm less enthused about the songs on the disc. If I'd known no DLC would be available until I could just stroll into a retailer and purchase the DVD, I wouldn't have gone to the extra hassle and expense of importing the game.

ShadowOfEden
11-20-2007, 04:35 AM
Saying to blame Quebec is ******ed.

Even IF, and its a big if, the delay actually has to do with the bilingual packaging, that is hardly Quebec's fault. That has been the law here forever, anybody who does business with Canada knows it.

So IF, again, I am highly skeptical of the bilingual excuse, if that turns out to the reason, the blame lays with EA, a company who knows the laws, a company who has shipped countless games to Canada, on time, with french-language packaging and instruction manuals, and never had a problem with it before.

So lay off Quebec, and if are going to tell people to blame somebody, blame EA.

Exactly. The transcript reason is just a BS reason. I know both french and english, and I could probably translate the manual in a few hours. If they would hire a translator, he would get it done even faster, unless the game comes with a bible. Unless the songs are translater? That would be horrible, you can't translate a song.

Next, every games released in Canada manages to get released about the same days (sometimes one or two days later, but that's due to shipping).

And is it really a must to have french manuals and game cover? I live in Montreal, I bought Folklore at EB Games and the manual and game covers are english only (but the game has french, even voice acting)

whofan
11-20-2007, 04:58 AM
I bought the DVD only, not the bundle, from CD Universe. According to Fed Ex it will arrive in the next couple of hours. (If the game were available in Canada I would have purchased the bundle---buying just the DVD is my little way of saying thanks to EA/Harmonix for the way they've treated Canadian customers.)




The fact that they did not release the DLC in Canada today, but did in the U.S., means it's unlikely DLC will be available until units are supplied to Canada in mid to late December, if then. The major reason I wanted this game is because of some of the announced DLC; I'm less enthused about the songs on the disc. If I'd known no DLC would be available until I could just stroll into a retailer and purchase the DVD, I wouldn't have gone to the extra hassle and expense of importing the game.


Do you honestly believe that EA/Harmonix will get your slight against them? They don't care that you bought only the Disc instead of the bundle. There are MANY others out there that will lap up the bundles and thus they're not missing a sale and in fact you are providing them with a sale. They're going to look at it as"Great! Another game disc sale! This game is selling great!" and not as "Oh dear, another game disc only. This guy is trying to send us a message about how Canadians feel, next time we'll have to treat them better because that was a bundle sale we missed out on".

They don't care if you're trying to send a message to them via this method. All that matters is that you SUPPORTED them by purchasing this product. If you really were THAT pissed off (as you claim to be) you would boycott the product entirely, as that's the best way to send a message of dissatisfaction to the developers/publishers. If you purchase the product then the company will never recieve your message. Simple as that. Vote with your dollar.

Continuing on here. You complain about the addition of DLC to the Canadian site. Okay, so they're going to put all this DLC for... what?... 50 people? Where's the business sense in that? Guarenteed that they have to pay some kind of fees to put up the DLC, so why put it up in Canada when only the most diehard (and impatient) people currently have the game? That's a darn good way to loose money. The vocal minority here (Those insane enough to order U.S. copies) does not constitute a fanbase big enough to support putting this stuff up yet. When copies start coming into Canada officialy, then the DLC costs will be offset and their addition to the marketplace will make business sense.

Thinking about what you say and do is an EXCELLENT life skill, you may wish to learn it before you post again.

XeroTalent
11-20-2007, 05:01 AM
^^^^^
LOL, couldn't have said it better myself.

Zakuen
11-20-2007, 05:19 AM
I think it's obvious there's a shortage of DLC which is why there's a delay with it being accessable in Canada :D

DYoungEagle
11-20-2007, 05:22 AM
Hmmm.... I wonder..... This gentleman is saying that it's says " QC 'd Sept 30, 07" on the top of his box... QC..... Everyone knows in Québec that QC means Québec ..... :confused:

http://community.rockband.com/vbforum/showthread.php?t=8461&page=5

mick123
11-20-2007, 05:27 AM
Do you honestly believe that EA/Harmonix will get your slight against them?


I guess the concept of a token gesture is lost on many people. I don't expect my individual decision will be noticed by a large international firm, no, but notice that I did vote with my dollar: I voted 50 instead of 170. Token gestures do add up.

The other, more direct, way consumers can make frustrations known to firms is to complain about the issues which affect them, such as by posting messages on the internet. I am not at all sure what the point of people unaffected by a particular issue posting to antagonize those who are is.



Continuing on here. You complain about the addition of DLC to the Canadian site. Okay, so they're going to put all this DLC for... what?... 50 people? Where's the business sense in that?


Yeah, the population of Canada is roughly 1,200 people, so you're probably correct that only a handful will import the game.

I don't know whether making the content available on Live would be profitable in the narrow sense because I don't know what MS's fee structure is, and neither do you. I do know that failing to make the content available to Canadians is yet another kick in the face, and yet another annoying decision for which we receive no explanation from Harmonix/EA.

I am not really interested in your lecture on "life skills," but I would suggest that you take your own advice and think before you post. If you're not affected by the lack of DLC content for Canadians, why are you even reading this thread, much less adding pointless, hostile, and lengthy rants to it?

SteppinRazor
11-20-2007, 05:31 AM
Hmmm.... I wonder..... This gentleman is saying that it's says " QC 'd Sept 30, 07" on the top of his box... QC..... Everyone knows in Québec that QC means Québec ..... :confused:

http://community.rockband.com/vbforum/showthread.php?t=8461&page=5

QC'd means Quality Checked. Nothing to do with the province east of Ontario.

ShadowOfEden
11-20-2007, 05:31 AM
Continuing on here. You complain about the addition of DLC to the Canadian site. Okay, so they're going to put all this DLC for... what?... 50 people? Where's the business sense in that?

Actually, doing it now or later doesn't change anything. And I don't know for the Marketplace, but for the PS Store, it's a north american network, not a separated network for US and Canada.

DYoungEagle
11-20-2007, 05:40 AM
QC'd means Quality Checked. Nothing to do with the province east of Ontario.

Yeah that got to be it, thanks man.

whofan
11-20-2007, 05:44 AM
Actually, doing it now or later doesn't change anything. And I don't know for the Marketplace, but for the PS Store, it's a north american network, not a separated network for US and Canada.
That's for the PS3, we're talking about Xbox Live Marketplace, there is a clear distinction here. Namely the Xbox Live Marketplace has it's own Canadian division.

Doing it now may impact their profits, as I'm not sure if a monthly fee or something has to be paid. Nobody here is completely aware of what goes on behind the scenes here. NOTHING is done arbitrarily and thus no matter what you can rest assured that there is a GOOD reason behind them doing what they're doing.

Be critical, but only if you are analytical in your criticisms. You can not properly address an issue if you don't know everything that is going on behind the scenes. That is exactly what is happening here. People are jumping on ship saying things like "Harmonix must be anti-Canadian". That's simply not true and it's ignorant to say that. Analyze the situation, so few people do that.

Scynthe
11-20-2007, 05:58 AM
Ok, not 100% sure about this but this may be a way to get around it.

A while back before Armored Core 4 came out there was a demo that was only available for download in Japan. So I read somewhere that if I make a new gamertag with japan as my address I'd have access to their XBL network and would be able to download the demo with that gamertag. It worked for me. Not sure if that would work with a US address on a new Gamertag for DLC but you never know!

whofan
11-20-2007, 05:58 AM
Mick123,

I reply to your posts because all you are doing is making all Canadians look like whiny 2 year olds who didn't get what they wanted at the exact moment they wanted it.

Was I distressed by the delay? I most certainly was, but why ***** about something I have absolutely no control over? Maybe if your posts were worded in a more mature manner, they wouldn't make us look so bad (This isn't just you, but the countless other Canadians on these boards who ***** in a similar way). Who's going to get the better attention in a situation? The person who is calmly and quietly asking for an explanation or the flailing idiot who threatens the developers (yes, that did happen in one of the other threads)?

"Failing" to make the content available to Canadians is not a kick in the face at all. If they wanted to do that they would just say "We're never releasing any DLC ever to Canada". This is not some kind of anti-Canadian conspiracy, it's business. As I said earlier, NOTHING is done arbitrarily. So, take your own advice in this matter and don't assume you know the reason behind what's going on (in this case you are clearly going on the "let's kick Canadians while they're down" assumption)

My post, while a little hostile, was neither pointless nor very lengthy. Just because I'm calm and cool about the whole DLC situation and "seem" to be unaffected doesn't mean that I'm not. It just means that I'm handling it in a more mature, thought out fashion that 90% of the Canadians here. (My apologies to those Canadians who are handling the situation in a calm manner, I don't mean you guys)

My posts are not meant to flame anyone personally, I don't know you and I don't assume to. What you have to realize is that there is absolutely no point in *****ing in such a manner on these boards, it's not going to get you what you want. Harmonix/EA/MTV undoubtedly have their schedule in mind and will be sticking to that schedule, get used to it.

ShadowOfEden
11-20-2007, 06:02 AM
That's for the PS3, we're talking about Xbox Live Marketplace, there is a clear distinction here. Namely the Xbox Live Marketplace has it's own Canadian division.

Doing it now may impact their profits, as I'm not sure if a monthly fee or something has to be paid. Nobody here is completely aware of what goes on behind the scenes here. NOTHING is done arbitrarily and thus no matter what you can rest assured that there is a GOOD reason behind them doing what they're doing.

Be critical, but only if you are analytical in your criticisms. You can not properly address an issue if you don't know everything that is going on behind the scenes. That is exactly what is happening here. People are jumping on ship saying things like "Harmonix must be anti-Canadian". That's simply not true and it's ignorant to say that. Analyze the situation, so few people do that.

I didn't see any mentions of the Market place, so you can see why I brought my answer. It would also be useless to bring it to the Canadian store when the game is not suposed to be released here yet. Same goes for Europe.

whofan
11-20-2007, 06:05 AM
I didn't see any mentions of the Market place, so you can see why I brought my answer. It would also be useless to bring it to the Canadian store when the game is not suposed to be released here yet. Same goes for Europe.
Okay, now I see why you brought in your answer. Sorry about that, I thought it had been mentioned already.

padreswin
11-20-2007, 06:14 AM
I was able to find the game only version up here in Canada (got the last 360 copy at the store). So yeah, while I'm bummed out about not being able to enjoy some of the DLC immediately, there are still a lot of songs to keep me busy over the next few weeks.

ShadowOfEden
11-20-2007, 06:15 AM
Ok, not 100% sure about this but this may be a way to get around it.

A while back before Armored Core 4 came out there was a demo that was only available for download in Japan. So I read somewhere that if I make a new gamertag with japan as my address I'd have access to their XBL network and would be able to download the demo with that gamertag. It worked for me. Not sure if that would work with a US address on a new Gamertag for DLC but you never know!

A Canadian credit card should work in the US, so it should work. But sometimes, the address of the buyer must match the address of the credit card.

mick123
11-20-2007, 06:40 AM
Mick123,
I reply to your posts because all you are doing is making all Canadians look like whiny 2 year olds who didn't get what they wanted at the exact moment they wanted it.

Who's going to get the better attention in a situation? The person who is calmly and quietly asking for an explanation or the flailing idiot who threatens the developers (yes, that did happen in one of the other threads)?


Please quote me acting like a "flailing idiot" or like a "whiny 2 year old." I think if you read what I actually wrote, you'll find I expressed dismay with yet another failure to provide product to Canadian customers and with the lack of an explanation for that failure. I do not think, contrary to what you "clearly" think I said, that EA or Harmonix is out to deliberately harm Canadians. I do think that EA/Harmonix has behaved with a distressing lack of consideration for the Canadian market. The "GOOD REASON" for that is in part that the total sales of the initial release are invariant to the distribution across Canada and the U.S. because of severely limited quantity supplied, because the Canadian market is relatively small, and because the employees at Harmonix apparently know little about either Canada or the distribution system they've contracted out to. It's entirely possible that the lack of DLC in Canada is a simple oversight which will be corrected once it's brought to the right person's attention, which is less likely to happen if the relevant thread on the official forums is bogged down by people entering for no other reason than to start flamewars. Thanks!




My posts are not meant to flame anyone personally, I don't know you and I don't assume to.


Yet, you do. You started off with:



Thinking about what you say and do is an EXCELLENT life skill, you may wish to learn it before you post again.


and proceed to heap simple name calling on the pile in this post. If you really "not mean to flame anyone personally," the easy way to accomplish that goal is to not flame anyone personally. For example, resist the temptation to call people "flailing idiots" with no "life skills."

Your posts were and are pointless: if you don't care about the delayed DLC in Canada you can simply ignore this thread. Entering it for the sole purpose of further antagonizing, through both trivialization of concerns and hurling insults, people who are affected is pointless and unproductive.

XeroTalent
11-20-2007, 06:49 AM
Mick, what exactly is your point to this thread, since everyone else's input is "pointless"? What are you trying to accomplish?

You want DLC right now? It's not there. Too bad. Move on and wait like everyone else. You're no more important than the next guy. Regardless if you overzealously spent money on a game that wasn't good enough without the DLC. That's your fault, not someone elses... so not sure why you expect someone to fix that for you.

Deal with it.

Etapi1000
11-20-2007, 07:08 AM
Those of you who chose to simply sit and wait and hope that copies might arrive in Canada before Dec 18th and are now flaming a legitimate poster who has expressed a rightful concern over game content that was advertised as being available launch day simply do not have a leg to stand on.

It was your choice to sit and wait. Although I do not have my game disc yet, I expect to have it by the end of the week, and I was looking forward to being able to play a lot of the DLC that was advertised as being available. By posting here, and expressing his concerns Mick123 is following one of the only avenues open to him to point out to HMX their oversight on this issue.

I am not going to be throwing blame around, but I will again express my dismay that HMX chose to partner with EA on this game. EA has been known in the past to alienate gaming communities with poor decisions and poor execution of what they said they would do.

In the meantime Mick123, keep up the posts, and let the people at HMX know your concerns.

ortizz
11-20-2007, 07:35 AM
Yeah, the population of Canada is roughly 1,200 people, so you're probably correct that only a handful will import the game.
dude i may have read this wrong, but theres like 600 people in my school and the town i live in has well over 2000 people.i live in canada in newfoundland and st.johns is like 20 mins away and its our capital with well more than 2000 residents.but thats only 2 cities and there is loads more cities in canada and etc.btw i would wait awhile for some DLC to come out for canada players.i still gotta wait for xmas to get a ps3 and rock band and other people are complaining about no DLC at the moment and they have a ps3 or 360 with rock band.jeez talk about impatient.god

kanerules
11-20-2007, 07:39 AM
Ok, as much as I am disappointed that Canada doesn't have DLC at least until it launches here..I'm only worried about one thing. Will Canada get all the backdated DLC between now and then, or will we only see the DLC released from that day forward? Because if we DO get screwed out of the first month's worth of DLC simply because we're "not supposed to even have the game yet", that would be complete bull ****.

sushi111
11-20-2007, 07:41 AM
Hey, the people in the US who had the game early didn't have DLC either. Count your blessings that you even have a copy and remember: beggars can't be choosers.

Seriously? Shut up man.

Thats just rude.

ShadowOfEden
11-20-2007, 07:51 AM
dude i may have read this wrong, but theres like 600 people in my school and the town i live in has well over 2000 people.i live in canada in newfoundland and st.johns is like 20 mins away and its our capital with well more than 2000 residents.but thats only 2 cities and there is loads more cities in canada and etc.btw i would wait awhile for some DLC to come out for canada players.i still gotta wait for xmas to get a ps3 and rock band and other people are complaining about no DLC at the moment and they have a ps3 or 360 with rock band.jeez talk about impatient.god

He was obviously sarcastic.

And people with the PS3 version are not complaining about the no DLC in Canada, since US and Canada shares the same store. Now, if only my game would get here faster. :P

Scynthe
11-20-2007, 09:37 AM
I'd actually be more worried about us getting the same DLC as the states in general at all. Something tells me copyright issues may come into play for Canadians and we may not get the same DLC as the states gets because of that. Look at the video marketplace on XBL, or even television stations that offer their shows online too. I wanted to watch Jericho since I missed most of it here and when I went to the website to watch it it tells me that I cant because "This content cannot be accessed outside fo the Unites States" or some junk like that. I expect to see something like this with the DLC, but I do hope I am wrong.

Shaderone
11-20-2007, 10:03 AM
It's not quite a flame, but rather a question as to why Canadians with RB aren't playing it instead of being offended about the fact they have no DLC. And thanks for the info on the MS Points, that makes the prices very ridiculous...

Oh, I'm Canadian, by the way, so if you think I'm flaming the Canadians, then I'm obviously some sort of blubbering ****** who likes insulting himself. I'm very, very sad that Canada is given the boot in this situation, but the fact of the matter is, we have.

At least we have a half-decent leader, ay?

Shaderone
11-20-2007, 10:03 AM
It's not quite a flame, but rather a question as to why Canadians with RB aren't playing it instead of being offended about the fact they have no DLC. And thanks for the info on the MS Points, that makes the prices very ridiculous...

Shaderone
11-20-2007, 10:33 AM
I don't see why Canadians who are getting the game a MONTH earlier than everyone else have a right to complain that they have no DLC. Who knows, since Harmonix changed the pricing of the game to better match the exchange rate (200$ to 170$), maybe they'll lower the amount of MS points needed for Canadians too, when they release it to the Canadian Xboxes.

Etapi1000
11-20-2007, 10:36 AM
I'd actually be more worried about us getting the same DLC as the states in general at all. Something tells me copyright issues may come into play for Canadians and we may not get the same DLC as the states gets because of that. Look at the video marketplace on XBL, or even television stations that offer their shows online too. I wanted to watch Jericho since I missed most of it here and when I went to the website to watch it it tells me that I cant because "This content cannot be accessed outside fo the Unites States" or some junk like that. I expect to see something like this with the DLC, but I do hope I am wrong.

I can't be sure, but I would expect that this is not the case, as with GHII and GHIII, all the DLC has been the same for the US and Canada

Etapi1000
11-20-2007, 10:40 AM
I don't see why Canadians who are getting the game a MONTH earlier than everyone else have a right to complain that they have no DLC. Who knows, since Harmonix changed the pricing of the game to better match the exchange rate (200$ to 170$), maybe they'll lower the amount of MS points needed for Canadians too, when they release it to the Canadian Xboxes.

If you have nothing more constructive than a flame, go back to playing GH. And as for your thought on MS points, HMX has nothing to do with setting the value of the points, that is MS only

Shaderone
11-20-2007, 11:09 AM
If you have nothing more constructive than a flame, go back to playing GH. And as for your thought on MS points, HMX has nothing to do with setting the value of the points, that is MS only

It's not quite a flame, but rather a question as to why Canadians with RB aren't playing it instead of being offended about the fact they have no DLC. And thanks for the info on the MS Points, that makes the prices very ridiculous...

Oh, I'm Canadian, by the way, so if you think I'm flaming the Canadians, then I'm obviously some sort of blubbering ****** who likes insulting himself. I'm very, very sad that Canada is given the boot in this situation, but the fact of the matter is, we have.

At least we have a half-decent leader, ay?