Harmonix comes out about PS3 GH3 problems.

[Eman311]

Because the PS3 has different controller standards then the PS2

[Huskie]

Source (http://kotaku.com/gaming/rock-band/rock-band-ghiii-ps3-controllers-dont-play-nice-325254.php)

"Harmonix develops and bases all of our games, guitars and other peripherals on open standards established by platform manufacturers such as Microsoft and Sony. Rock Band is no exception and supports an open controller standard. Guitar controllers are like any other standard game controllers--the controller sends a signal back to the game depending on the buttons you push. If a third party game controller is based on open standards, then it should work with Rock Band as well. If certain controllers do not work with Rock Band, questions about those controllers should be directed to the peripheral manufacturer. In addition, we welcome any 3rd party software that wishes to support Rock Band guitars. If a 3rd party guitar / music game does not support the Rock Band guitar controller, questions regarding this should be directed to the game manufacturer."


I call BS! Why doesnt the PS2 GH controller work then?!

That's an old quote. Did Kotaku recently take it from an old interview?

ETA: It is an old quote.
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3163966
http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&client=news&ie=ISO-8859-1&filter=0&q=Harmonix+develops+and+bases&scoring=d

[TheRocker]

Meh is this Neversoft/RedOctane's fault then ?

[DrBeau]

I call BS! Why doesnt the PS2 GH controller work then?!

Red Octane made the original SG and Xplorer. They also make the Les Paul. These peripherals are all Harmonix/EA's first guitars, etc.

[snobrder218]

Source (http://kotaku.com/gaming/rock-band/rock-band-ghiii-ps3-controllers-dont-play-nice-325254.php)

"Harmonix develops and bases all of our games, guitars and other peripherals on open standards established by platform manufacturers such as Microsoft and Sony. Rock Band is no exception and supports an open controller standard. Guitar controllers are like any other standard game controllers--the controller sends a signal back to the game depending on the buttons you push. If a third party game controller is based on open standards, then it should work with Rock Band as well. If certain controllers do not work with Rock Band, questions about those controllers should be directed to the peripheral manufacturer. In addition, we welcome any 3rd party software that wishes to support Rock Band guitars. If a 3rd party guitar / music game does not support the Rock Band guitar controller, questions regarding this should be directed to the game manufacturer."


I call BS! Why doesnt the PS2 GH controller work then?!

[AdamWill]

that (old) quote is also complete crap as there *is* no 'open standard' for guitar controllers. an open standard is implemented by a *standards body* - preferably an established one but at minimum, a body with representatives from all interested parties - and it is *codified* (i.e., written down) somewhere where anyone can look at (and implement) it without a fee (that's the 'open' part of 'open standard').

none of this, but none, applies to guitar controllers for rhythm games. there is no standard, open or otherwise. hmx may be trying to argue that the original GH / GH2 layout is a 'de facto' standard, but even that is BS because there were *two* incumbent games in the 'guitar-based rhythm game' genre, GuitarFreaks and Guitar Hero, and they don't use the same system. So it's not even a de facto standard.

the quote is therefore tripe of the highest order. there is no standard of any kind, for which we should blame all parties involved equally, although possibly Konami slightly less because they started the whole thing and HMX / Red Octane *should* have made some kind of effort to implement Konami's system, if they didn't want to get together to *actually* create some kind of standard.

what would be good is for all three parties - Red Octane, HMX, Konami / Bemani - to get together and define a real open standard so that future games from all three can interchange controllers, and third party controllers can be made that will, with confidence, work on current and future games from all three. For instance, if there were a true open standard, the arcade-style Drummania controller currently being worked on by a specialist in Hong Kong would work with RB as well. Wouldn't that be nice?

[sanchny]

HMX / Red Octane *should* have made some kind of effort to implement Konami's system, if they didn't want to get together to *actually* create some kind of standard.
Konami has nothing to do with this, since there are no GuitarFreaks home versions for the U.S.

[AdamWill]

sorry, you fail. market doesn't matter. if you want a 'standard', you involve all (or at least *most*, which in this case - since the numbers are so small - means all) the players, doesn't matter where they are. it is logically impossible to consider a single arbirtrary implementation which is not compatible with a pre-existing implementation, no matter where that implementation was sold, a 'standard'.