Any Real Drummers getting thier butts handed to them??

[CENACHAINGANG54]

Hello fello Rockers. First off let me say that Rock Band has to be the coolest music game I have ever played!! I was wondering though if any body that plays drums in real life is getting it handed to them on hard and medium on harder songs? There are a few I have failed on hard but can't remember them. However I know I am going to get it handed to me on Tom Sawyer when I get there, as Neal is a Drum God!! I am a drummer have been in bands and recorded. This game is easy on guitar, but every bit true to it's word on the drum parts. Ok chime in all drummers and let me know if I am the only one getting it handed to me!!

HAPPY ROCKING!

[HPLabonte]

i dabble a little on real drums, but man, I got pretty schooled on medium drums in Rock Band, hopefully I'll work my way up to Hard or Expert.

[parastroke7]

I'm not getting an ass-handing, but I'm getting about a 92% on every other song on Expert. As long as a song doesn't have a lot of single strokes on the red or yellow pad (the hand that feeds, for example) then I'm fine. Apparently, my red and yellow pad are faulty. The blue one worked fine for single strokes in another song.

So my two biggest issues are the stiffness and un-bounciness of the bass pedal, and the inconsistent hit registering on my pads. If I had a perfect peripheral, I'd be whomping this game's ass.

[deepbluevibes]

I play drums in real life, have been for quite a few years, but I just landed #1 on the online leader boards on Expert Drums on a few songs, including And Justice For All w/a 5star (300,000+ points), so i don't think i'm doing too bad...

[MJDoja]

as a drummer with no drummania experience and poor reading skills.. it just depends on if i know the song or not.. first time hearing many songs past the first 2 tiers i will fail on expert.. and the tougher ones that ive never heard.. im bound to fail on hard a few times till i learn it.

medium is autopilot basically but for me i'll be learning stuff like METALLICA on medium so i can get a feel for the whole song without missing all the notes :D

my problem is that i cant really bounce the sticks well on these pads.. compared to a practice pad or a real drum.. so my single strokes and basic fills are sloppppy :( needs moar practice

[Yorchi117]

I think my system isn't calibrated properly...I was playing a song where I was literally half a beat off in real life but on time int he game...I did the calibration with the control and the guitar and it still doesn't seem perfect to me...I'm going to have to keep doing it till I get it right...

I can't give an honest opinion about it until I fix that issue...other than that I just have a hard time reading blocks of color isntead of actual notes or a kick sheet...

it's like sightreading a new song...you get the gist of it by listening to the band, not by the sheet music...

[CENACHAINGANG54]

I'm not getting an ass-handing, but I'm getting about a 92% on every other song on Expert. As long as a song doesn't have a lot of single strokes on the red or yellow pad (the hand that feeds, for example) then I'm fine. Apparently, my red and yellow pad are faulty. The blue one worked fine for single strokes in another song.

So my two biggest issues are the stiffness and un-bounciness of the bass pedal, and the inconsistent hit registering on my pads. If I had a perfect peripheral, I'd be whomping this game's ass.

I agree with you. My pads sometimes tell me I am missing notes when I am hitting them. This sometimes happen on single snare beats and sometimes on continuos beats on the yellow and blue. I also agree they need to make a new pedal that has the bounciness of a real bass pedal. Try turning off the dolby in your audio if you have it on. There is a clitch that makes you miss notes if it is on. I turned it off and mine is working a little better.

[CENACHAINGANG54]

I think my system isn't calibrated properly...I was playing a song where I was literally half a beat off in real life but on time int he game...I did the calibration with the control and the guitar and it still doesn't seem perfect to me...I'm going to have to keep doing it till I get it right...

I can't give an honest opinion about it until I fix that issue...other than that I just have a hard time reading blocks of color isntead of actual notes or a kick sheet...

it's like sightreading a new song...you get the gist of it by listening to the band, not by the sheet music...

I agree with you and also with MJ. This is way different then reading music. I can site read percussion music better then these color blocks!LOL However like MJ stated there is no bounce to these pads which for those of us who are drummers makes things a little harder. so I am going to the practice room alot and also practicing songs on medium to get them down. However my son and I have been playing BWT. and the songs they keep making us play all the time (wanted dead or alive, should i stay or should i go to name a couple) the more we play them the better I get at them.

[tf5_bassist]

I have never professed to be a great drummer. I can play, I can hold a beat, I can jam, I can pick stuff out of a song and play a good deal of it, but I'm in no way a "great drummer"... That being said, I'm passing most average expert songs with at least an 85% or higher. I'm having the same response problems with the pads that the other drummers are having, it's just not the same bounce, and it makes fills and rolls way hard. The kick pedal is annoying the piss out of me only for the lack of a tactile feel for when I get a hit, the sensor triggers when it's a bit above the furthest travel point...

Overall though, I'm sure within a few weeks I'll be able to 90-95% most songs on Expert...

Drums are WAY too fun! :D

[xchrisxabyssx]

i've been playing drums for about 7 years now and some of the songs kick my ass on expert only because i don't know them.

[Elvisman2001]

i dabble a little on real drums, but man, I got pretty schooled on medium drums in Rock Band, hopefully I'll work my way up to Hard or Expert.

Yeah thats me. Whats throwing me off is on a real kit, I know where the snare is because the snare looks like a snare and where the hi-hat is becuase it looks like a hi-hat.

I have to get used to where the placement of stuff is.

And, its kinda confusing because I am havign to play the beats the game wants me to play and i find myself wanting to auto-improvise at times and I have to remind myself I need to watch the screen and play what it WANTS me to play. Lol. Guess thats kinda good in a way because it means I am forgetting I am playing a game at times.

Still fun though. Kinda glad I don't know much about drumming. i'll get more play out of it.

[Elvisman2001]

Oh and also to some of you actual drummers...

unlike the guitar, which I knopw is no where near like the real thing, do you think the drumming portion of this game could actually help someone to learn to play?

To me, it seems like it could help... because it does teach you to get all your different limbs working on ddifferent levels. But, like I say... I am no "drummer" i can just keep a beat and play enough to get myself in trouble. I was just wondering what you real drummers thought about that.

As a singer, I have to say that i think the singing portion of the game could relaly benefit someone in learning proper pitch and stuff for songs or learning how to sing a song in a lower register. I was relaly blown away by the singing portion of the game.

[Elvisman2001]

All this game will teach you how to do in regards to real drums is use the bass pedal and effectively multi-task your limbs.

It nowhere near simulates a real drumset in terms of positions of the drums/cymbals themselves, neither in size or spatial position.

If you were to reverse the red and yellow drums, and make the green drum above the blue drum (in terms of, up and to the right), and make the pads quite larger, along with adding a fifth pad in between the blue and green pads, then it would simulate a drumset remotely enough to actually get you better at real drums.

Namely, if it looked like Drummania's setup, it'd help you totally, but this game will only help you with the bass pedal and multi-tasking.

Yeah thats what I was basiclaly asking. I figured, if nothing else, it would teach you to at least have the coordination to play a drum kit. (mutli tasking)

I would have paid to have a deluxe kit or something that looks like the drum mania kit.

[deepbluevibes]

Oh and also to some of you actual drummers...

unlike the guitar, which I knopw is no where near like the real thing, do you think the drumming portion of this game could actually help someone to learn to play?

To me, it seems like it could help... because it does teach you to get all your different limbs working on ddifferent levels. But, like I say... I am no "drummer" i can just keep a beat and play enough to get myself in trouble. I was just wondering what you real drummers thought about that.

As a singer, I have to say that i think the singing portion of the game could relaly benefit someone in learning proper pitch and stuff for songs or learning how to sing a song in a lower register. I was relaly blown away by the singing portion of the game.

All this game will teach you how to do in regards to real drums is use the bass pedal and effectively multi-task your limbs.

It nowhere near simulates a real drumset in terms of positions of the drums/cymbals themselves, neither in size or spatial position.

If you were to reverse the red and yellow drums, and make the green drum above the blue drum (in terms of, up and to the right), and make the pads quite larger, along with adding a fifth pad in between the blue and green pads, then it would simulate a drumset remotely enough to actually get you better at real drums.

Namely, if it looked like Drummania's setup, it'd help you totally, but this game will only help you with the bass pedal and multi-tasking.

[airbakin]

I've been playing drums for about 15 years now, & I was doing fine on most of these songs on expert (85-95% on less familiar stuff, 95+ on the ones I knew), and then I hit Faith No More's Epic. Jesus that kicked my ass. I'm going to have to listen to the real thing in order to pull this one off. But yeah, once any halfway decent drummer gets any of these studio recorded songs memorized it's over....

Pretty much my ability to keep a beat has let me pass each of the random songs I've never played. Basically get a gist of the basic beat, keep it, and don't get all thrown off by all the crazy fills and accents which in the end really only account for 3-5% of your entire percentage score...

Another catch I failed to realize until an hour or two was that during the overdrive / crazy fill sections go ahead and whale away on that bass pedal too for more points. I initially was only bangin' the pads and neglecting to kick with it also lol!