...proves them wrong

[db meteora db]

I was going through the Rock Band DLC store and realized that most of the 00's songs in it were crap.. If you click on most of them you'll see just how bad the developers did at choosing songs with talent. They're pretty much all about as much fun as playing Roxanne (zzzz...).. Yes the game has alot of 00's songs in the DLC, but what kind of person seriously wants to play half of the 00's songs they have on there???
Obviously the developers don't know a whole lot about the 00's cuz I personally know PLENTY of TALENTED bands and their songs that should be in the game(...and they're actually worth listening to).

Here's a short list of some AWESOME songs that should be in the game based not only on the fact that they sound completely amazing but also on their talent

Saosin:

Seven Years
It's Far Better To Learn
Sleepers
It's So Simple
Voices
Follow And Feel
Come Close
Collapse
You're Not Alone
Bury Your Head
Some Sense And Security


Secret and Whisper:

You Are Familiar
Vanishings
XOXOXO
Spider Besider
Looming Moon
Attacker
Anchors
Lovers


Taking Back Sunday:

Liar (It Takes One To Know One)
Up Against (Blackout)
Twenty-Twenty Surgery
Spin
Error: Operator


Anberlin:

Godspeed
Never Take Friendship Personal
The Runaways
A Day Late
The Resistance
Feel Good Drag (New Surrender Version)
Disappear


Hawthorne Heights:

Pens And Needles
Saying Sorry
Dead In The Water


The Almost:

Say This Sooner
Drive There Now
I Mostly Copy Other People


Envy On The Coast:

Mirrors


Armor For Sleep:

Smile For The Camera


A Change Of Pace:

The Thin Red Line
Death Do Us Part


The Classic Crime:

The Fight


Coheed And Cambria:

The Suffering
The Running Free
Feathers


Fall Out Boy:

Beat It


Hidden In Plain View:

Bendy


Ivoryline:

Days End
All You Ever Hear
Be Still And Breathe
Remind Me I'm Alive


Jimmy Eat World:

Get It Faster


Lostprophets:

We Still Kill The Old Way
To Hell We Ride


There For Tomorrow:

Wrong Way To Hide
Pages
Waiting
Deadlines
Remember When (Used To Be Used To It)
No More Room To Breathe


Scary Kids Scaring Kids:

Faces


Take The Crown:

Game OVERdose
Ride Or Die


For all those who say that me and those who agree with me are just wining and should make a list of songs here you go.
All talented artists.
All amazing songs..and this is just the short list.

Clearly whoever put half the 00's songs in the game is naive and doesn't know any good ones so they just threw some in, or they wanted to make everyone playing the game think that there isn't any talent now days. THIS LIST PROVES THEM WRONG

[back_blows]

Beat It by Michael Jackson>>>>Beat It by Fallout Boy

[afterstasis]

i'm afraid i don't like a single one of those bands, though there are two i haven't heard...
i'll look 'em up when i get the chance, despite the really insulting tone throughout the post towards the HMX devs and the 00's bands already in the game.

[db meteora db]

I'm just sick of people expressing hate towards the 2000s saying there isn't talent just because half the ones in the game are untalented..

[back_blows]

I'm just sick of people expressing hate towards the 2000s saying there isn't talent just because half the ones in the game are untalented..

I don't think talent has anything to do with it. I think it has more to do with many modern bands not being able to distinguish themselves from other bands.

[afterstasis]

i don't think it has anything to do with current bands being instrumentally-talented, but rather the general sound of current mainstream music, as well as the direction that songwriting has gone.

EDIT: semi-ninja'd

[Joshua12]

This is pathetic. You ***** about the bands that are in the game and name bands that are exactly like the bands in rock band. You are ******ed. You honestly think Hawthorne heights are better than the bands we have?

[Awwwe_Damn]

It's not that they're untalented, it's moreso that the talented bands scream or sing in high pitched voices (ex: 3 Inches of Blood and DragonLand). Mainstream "good" music died out when rap became popular (early 90's). No one knows what good music is... all they hear is screaming. Look past that and listen to the music! It'll blow your mind!

[trench762]

I have to say this, and I realize it's a matter of taste/opinion. But most of the bands are crap on that list, at least the ones I've heard of. Which tells me I wouldn't wanna check out the ones I haven't heard of. Hawthorne Heights, Jimmy Eat World and Taking back sunday all rank up there with nickelback imo...or I should say rank down there. Coheed and Cambria and Fallout boy are the only 2 bands on your list I can tolerate. My 3 picks for 00 bands would be Modest Mouse, The White Stripes, and The Black Keys

[AngryWorm]

Not going to rip on the choices that are availible as DLC.

That said, I'd love Saosin's It's Far Better To Learn

[db meteora db]

Saosin would be an amazing addition to rock band.

Look everyone, whether you like that list of bands or not, it's a short list of bands that have waaay more talent than some picks they put up for DLC.
At least with this list of songs there would be something to do when playing the song other than sleep. AND they are more popular than a bunch of the 2000s that HMX has been choosing...
If you don't believe me then look up each song and listen to each instrument and the vocals. Oh and I would recommend having it hooked up to a sub so you can really hear the bass too, which is something I did when building the list..
Bass has clearly been getting forgotten alot when they make DLC.

Overall, the list is instrumentally and vocally better than ALOT of the songs in DLC currently regardless of likes/dislikes in the bands..

[kingtonyx]

Dude, I'm as much of a supporter of these bands and current music as probably anyone but this is really not helping.

Also what are you talking about? The 2000s DLC we have aren't from talented bands?

Avenged Sevenfold?
Disturbed?
System Of A Down?
All That Remains?
Paramore?
Black Tide?

[EnkiduV3]

Hey guess what, here comes a shocker...

This game is not made for you.

There, I said it because no one else would. YOU are not who Harmonix has in mind while choosing songs for the game. They try to spread the love to give everyone something to choose from. Most bands in the game from the "'00s" were pretty much given to Harmonix as a way of promotion anyways.

This may confuse you a little bit, but pretty much every song set at the 80 MSP price point is for promotion reasons. Harmonix probably doesn't seek these bands out, they are given to them.

You should also try to refrain from spouting hate on every other song from the '00s in the game if you aren't able to take criticism on your crappy choices. Saosin has a handful of good songs, "Welcome Home" is already here so the only Coheed we should see is "The Suffering", Hawthorne Heights? Serouisly?, I've had more than enough with Fallout Boy as it is, and every other "Screamo" band you named is equally less talented.

I will give you one "respect" point for making a point without actually stating it. These lame bands, that I personally can't stand, will probably sell a lot to the high school kid crowd. I also, personally, hate Nirvana. I know that Nevermind will be coming out eventually, but I won't be buying that. The fact is that there are a great deal of people that want that album released. I can understand demand.

These views are my own, as is everything else you and I say on the internet. I don't expect anyone else to share my views, and neither should you. Just as you can't make me like the bands you listed, Harmonix (nor I) can make you like and download the songs they have released. Isn't Capitalism great?

Solution: Don't download something that you don't like and download the songs that you know you like. Make sure you give the songs a listen before making your choice. In the end, you'll be happy with every song that you have chosen.

Bottom line, you should rethink your "language" next time and make it more of an "I suggest these songs because I like them" and less of a "You guys suck at picking songs from the '00s, so here's how to do it right!"

[EnkiduV3]

P.S. I have become aware of my outlandish use of quotation marks, won't happen again...

P.P.S. I agree with Kingtonyx. But again, those are bands we like and you may not agree. Just remember that we all have opinions, and yours would be appreciated if it wasn't so negative.

[db meteora db]

dude holy cow i didn't choose these songs for the sole reason of me liking them. I chose them based on how they are played.
if they are going to put 2000s in a game they should put good ones in with parts worth playing.
honestly i don't like alot of the songs in rock band but i still find some very fun to play. same with this list.. you might not like it but it doesn't mean they wont be fun to play. BUT they will be fun to play BECAUSE of the talent NOT just because im a fan.

and if everyone just sat back and said well im not buying the dlc just cuz i see nothing here worth downloading, then do you really think the game would cater to the masses?
this game is made for the consumer. period. sitting back gets everyone nowhere really fast

[db meteora db]

oh and kingtonyx, i didnt say that none of the 2000s songs had talent, i said half of them didnt. i have downloaded almost all of what you just named off...which is part of the better half

[EnkiduV3]

Do you know how the economy works? If everyone "just sat back and said well I'm not buying the dlc just cuz i see nothing here worth downloading," then it would cater to the masses. Those bands would never get another release.

And that also isn't what I said. I never said "cater to the masses". I said Harmonix is spreading the love. They are trying to get songs out there from every genre and every decade. My dad loves Rock Band because of the Boston, Rush, and The Cars love, He also has recently become a fan of Paramore because I downloaded those and he likes the songs, but he dislikes a lot of the songs that I do. Catering to the masses would exclude every band that my dad likes and only release songs that people ages 15-25 would like.

That's the kicker though, he likes the way the Paramore songs sound. That's how most people choose their DLC. They choose the songs that like to hear. You may not have chosen those songs because they are your favorite, but you chose those bands for that reason. You have no idea how fun the songs would actually be to play in the game, because they aren't in the game. You think that they would be fun, but you really just want to see your favorite bands in the game. At least be real with yourself.

On the topic of being real, you should try and understand my main point in that long ass post. Your opinion is just that, your opinion. Everyone is not going to agree with you, and you are such an unnecessarily angry person when they don't. I don't like most of the bands you do, and you probably don't like half of the bands I do if you really don't like a lot of the songs in Rock Band, but I'm not biting your head off for disagreeing with me. I'm just trying to help you see the nature of the song choices that are released.

Harmonix understood poet John Lydgate when he said:
"You can please some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time."
They are just trying to please all of the people some of the time. You have you realize that you won't be pleased all of the time and lose some of that hostility.

[db meteora db]

wow... k listen
do YOU know how the economy works??

if nobody made their voice heard, then this wouldn't be a game for the people. rb and gh are in a competition. in a competition you have to open up more to the masses and give them what they want or the competitor wins.

yes, there are more fans of what is ALREADY in the game, but by putting a WIDER variety in the game you please MORE people and by doing so, get the upper hand in the competition. thats economics.

now on the subject of my song choices... did you even listen to them or did you just say well i don't like those bands so they must suck? because im pretty sure that if you took the time to see someone's side other than your own you would see that i didn't choose these at random from "my favorite bands list". you would see that these songs were made by talented bands and would be an excellent add-on to a game who so far is lacking in this specific area.. I listened to EACH part in the songs. even bass... and i don't ever play the bass or even sing for that matter on the game so how is that only putting what i want in the game??? but that is how i know they would be fun to play. take the time to listen to the guitar in Saosin or the AMAZING vocals in secret and whisper along with the guitar.. or the bass in the TBS. based on the fact that these are talented musicians i know they would be fun to play.

AND of course the list is stuff i like.. do you really think anyone would try to get songs on a game if they didnt like them? WHAT THE LIST IS SAYING THOUGH is that these are talented songs whose style is lacking in the game.

[EnkiduV3]

OK, now it's my time to say "dude, do you understand?"

Yes I do know how the economy works. I had better know considering I am a business and economics major...
People are making their voice heard, in the only way to voice your opinion in economics... to not buy a product that you don't like. That's what companies see, the numbers. Enough people don't buy punk, they don't release as much punk. That's basic economics that I learned Freshman year in high school.

My second "dude, do you understand?" You aren't going to get me to like a band that I already know I don't like. I don't care how good you think Song A is, that won't make me like the song. I like how you say "I listened to every part... even the bass. You should listen, you'll like them." You have no idea what my musical tastes are, even though I already told you that we don't have many in common. Also, coming from a real life bassist, these bands are not that talented (and yes, I downloaded and listened to every song on your list that I haven't already heard. I then promptly deleted them afterwards. I stand by my previous comment, only "The Suffering" and some Saosin would be worth while... and I'm a huge Coheed fan.)

If you want a wider variety in the game, then maybe you should pick a different decade to lobby for. I only have about 60-70% of the DLC and I have more than 100 songs from the '00s on my hard drive... that's 2x or more than every other decade. I would say that with that many songs from a decade that isn't even over yet, there should be more focus on other other decades.

I would like to see some '50s tunes. Johnny B. Good!
No seriously, that would be a fun song.

And some more '80s music, but no more Duran Duran... maybe "The Touch" by Stan Bush (Transformers: The Animated Movie), or "You're the Best" by Joe Esposito (Karate Kid).

Unlike you, I don't expect people to share my love for these songs. This is just my opinion.

[db meteora db]

well i would expect a college graduate to know the argument before he tried to go deeper into it. NOT ONCE did i say that you would like it. so yes you are correct in saying that i don't know what kind of music you like, nor will i try to tell you what to like. what i said was it will be fun to play based on the parts.

second, for being an economics major, you are still not understanding the situation. the ENTIRE reason they ever started releasing DLC was because the public stood up and made their voice heard. sure they could have just done what you are suggesting and sat back and said well i don't like it so i will not buy the game at all.. well then the company loses out. the DLC is for the public. they want us to voice our opinions on what music we like.
k let me explain this in a different way: rock band first released more instrument peripherals to the game genre so they could get the upper hand because the game genre was lacking in that aspect. the public wanted more than just a guitar.
same with the DLC. i kno that they already have tons of 2000s songs. ..but that doesnt make them all good. personally i think, and this is my opinion, that about half of the 2000s DLC is a waste. it sounds stupid. yes that is my opinion. BUT if you click on those songs and look at the instruments and their difficulty and compare them to even just the way the short list i posted sounds, you will see that there is more complexity in my list. that is usually a sign of talent by the rest of the worlds' standard... so unless someone likes easier and quieter and slower songs, then they can completely disagree that my list would be funner.

and on the subject of older stuff, i LOVE ALOT of 80s. I like alot of 90s. I like some 70s. I will agree that they could do better song choices in those decades too, but i will save that for a thread about older songs.

[trench762]

the point is your not making a suggestion, your bashing the choices of dlc and stating that you could do a better job, with the amount of people who disagree I'd say you're wrong. I will probably give saosin a listen seeing as most people are saying they're good, but posting is far more effective as suggestions.

[EnkiduV3]

On par with my feelings for Guitar Hero 3, a more complex song on guitar does not make that a good song, or a talented musician necessarily.

I think you're still slightly missing my point on the economic stand-point. I'm never said don't buy the game, just the DLC that you don't like. I always download the songs for announced DLC and give it a listen before I purchase... I choose from there which to download.

Yes, Rock Band... instruments... public wanted... I agree with all of that. I work at GameStop while attending school and have been playing since GH1, I know full well about these games. Maybe you don't remember that Rock Band wasn't the first to offer DLC? GH2 for the 360? GH1 Track Packs 1-3 were DLC in April of '07, well before Rock Band hits shelves. It's not new, it's just in greater quantity, which is awesome and I love it. I don't know why you brought any of this up in our conversation...