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Swagger

11-21-2007, 10:28 AM

Does anyone know where I can watch expert drum videos? I have looked on youtube, and google, but can only seem to find a couple of songs. I'm asking because I have to wait till' x-mas.:(

AdamWill

11-21-2007, 11:16 AM

yeah, it'd be nice for us who have to wait to see some video of the harder songs on expert.

tmanrocks

11-21-2007, 11:37 AM

the_spike

11-21-2007, 11:38 AM

I'll make some tomorrow night in practice mode (because I suck) if you want me to.

What songs?

salsa22

11-21-2007, 11:46 AM

lol make some now.

deepbluevibes

11-21-2007, 11:53 AM

PFFT >:O

Unless your a drummer in real life and an expert at guitar hero... your just wasting your time looking for expert videos

Expert is too hard unless you have mastery of real drums and guitar hero combined

I suck dick at Guitar Hero but i'm gold-starring drum songs on expert, and have 5-starred every song i've played so far (including a metallica song) on expert drums.

Expect a few vids of me playing up by tonight; i'm going to make them all fancy with multiple angles of me at once and a direct-feed of the game and all this stuff.

SteppinRazor

11-21-2007, 12:00 PM

Heh, I like it when people put effort and production value into their output.

I saw your earlier vid with the drum-failure in it, with direct feed overlayed at the bottom of a camera shot of your playing -- good stuff, I applaud the extra effort.

MJDoja

11-21-2007, 12:01 PM

I suck dick at Guitar Hero but i'm gold-starring drum songs on expert, and have 5-starred every song i've played so far (including a metallica song) on expert drums.

Expect a few vids of me playing up by tonight; i'm going to make them all fancy with multiple angles of me at once and a direct-feed of the game and all this stuff.

hey you ever played drummania? its got a similar layout to guitar hero except with drums!

CRAZY COOLS

iNiGhTmAr3

11-21-2007, 12:08 PM

AdamWill

11-21-2007, 12:27 PM

PFFT >:O

Unless your a drummer in real life and an expert at guitar hero... your just wasting your time looking for expert videos

Expert is too hard unless you have mastery of real drums and guitar hero combined

I play Drummania up to the level 90s. I'm nowhere near as good as the Japanese tatsujins but I'm good enough that I'll probably pass most RB songs on expert first or second try. That's why I want to see the videos. =)

AdamWill

11-21-2007, 12:28 PM

I'll make some tomorrow night in practice mode (because I suck) if you want me to.

What songs?

thanks! the hardest stuff you can access in practice mode, I guess. Green Grass and High Tides, Tom Sawyer, whatever's rated hard.

airbakin

11-21-2007, 12:42 PM

I just beat Epic on expert, like the most difficult video game achievement i've ever achieved....

tmanrocks

11-21-2007, 12:48 PM

thanks! the hardest stuff you can access in practice mode, I guess. Green Grass and High Tides, Tom Sawyer, whatever's rated hard.

Aka : The leg killer

I can't play drums in rock band untill my leg feels better because of that P.O.S. song -_-

AdamWill

11-21-2007, 12:58 PM

Green Grass and High Tides is listed as 102bpm. I guess there's a point where it makes you play bass at twice that speed (204bpm). That's not really very fast...um, yeah, practice more. =)

(unless it's going four times as fast - 408bpm - which *is* pretty hard. I can barely manage 400.)

deepbluevibes

11-21-2007, 12:59 PM

hey you ever played drummania? its got a similar layout to guitar hero except with drums!

CRAZY COOLS

yep, been playing it for 5+ years now

I play Drummania up to the level 90s. I'm nowhere near as good as the Japanese tatsujins but I'm good enough that I'll probably pass most RB songs on expert first or second try. That's why I want to see the videos. =)

same, i can pass all 90's except for a few with an A, SS a lot of songs etc.

you won't have much trouble, just learning to read the screen will be the first pain without hyperspeed, but yeah, there is nothing in here as hard as 90's on drummania (except for the fact that the notes are all rammed together on blackened...)

AdamWill

11-21-2007, 01:07 PM

oh, you're better than me then, I B/C level 90 stuff. My highest A is Riff Riff Orbit. are you on gdamania or bemanistyle?

man, wish RB would get released in Canada already, sigh. =) i guess you're pretty high up on the rankings so far or are there some really good guys playing?

Swagger

11-21-2007, 02:02 PM

Thank's guy's, I have seen I Think I'm Paranoid, but that's about it. Just give a link to the vids that are gonna be played in practice. I don't care if you suck, I just want to see them, I can imagine some are pretty hard. :P

drummingrobot

11-21-2007, 05:51 PM

Expert drum videos?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gkQgFXjvnO4
It's not Rock Band, but you get the point.

AdamWill

11-22-2007, 02:48 AM

Expert drum videos?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gkQgFXjvnO4
It's not Rock Band, but you get the point.

yeah, well, that was pointless. I've seen tons of great drummers, thanks, I want to see the Rock Band *note charts*. sheesh.

Varsps

11-22-2007, 02:59 AM

I suck dick at Guitar Hero but i'm gold-starring drum songs on expert, and have 5-starred every song i've played so far (including a metallica song) on expert drums.

Expect a few vids of me playing up by tonight; i'm going to make them all fancy with multiple angles of me at once and a direct-feed of the game and all this stuff.

have you made any videos yet? i'd really like to see blackened, and justice for all, tom sawyer and WGFA

NattyLight

11-22-2007, 02:59 AM

Sentouki

11-22-2007, 03:04 AM

SoraRikuVGM

11-22-2007, 03:04 AM

I can beat Maps on Expert, but I don't have a video camera.

Eman311

11-22-2007, 03:05 AM

I can only get through a few songs on expert. Hell, I can't beat Here it goes again on hard :(

k_luva

11-22-2007, 03:06 AM

You meant this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ9XLiMfBRo

OH...and the guy flippin ROCKS IT...

AdamWill

11-22-2007, 03:41 AM

nice one, thanks. heh, alt bass patterns just look weird on RB's layout when you're used to DM's. =) those quad bass beats and the fast split rolls look like combo breakers, rest of the song seems pretty easy though.

surferbill

11-22-2007, 03:42 AM

You meant this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ9XLiMfBRo

OH...and the guy flippin ROCKS IT...

Okay that's freeking amazing...but I think I might cry because I know it will take me probably 5+ years to get to that point...although I never thought I would be able to play expert in guitar hero when that first came out...but man, certainly gives you something to aspire to.

MJDoja

11-22-2007, 03:54 AM

I just beat Epic on expert, like the most difficult video game achievement i've ever achieved....

somewhere in "epic" around solo C or D i totally lose the groove.. i'll get it by today..

it gets real ugly and sad..

MJDoja

11-22-2007, 03:57 AM

yep, been playing it for 5+ years now

same, i can pass all 90's except for a few with an A, SS a lot of songs etc.

you won't have much trouble, just learning to read the screen will be the first pain without hyperspeed, but yeah, there is nothing in here as hard as 90's on drummania (except for the fact that the notes are all rammed together on blackened...)

just saying the reason youre able to 5 star stuff has nothing to do with the fact that you "suck dick" in guitar hero.. since youre a vet drummania player, as well as having real drum experience. im sure that would affect your skill a bit more. IMO you came off a bit foolishly arrogant in that first post and im hoping you just didnt know it, since you totally didnt pick up on my sarcasm in the post. if you dont understand what i mean its fine.

keep rockin those score boards on expert dood

AdamWill

11-22-2007, 04:07 AM

blue_dragonzero

11-22-2007, 04:11 AM

Holy ****! That would take 50 years AND crazy japanese genes.

MJDoja

11-22-2007, 04:14 AM

surferbill: it took me about eight-nine months of Drummania to get to that level (song looks about as hard as Used To Rock And Roll in Drummania, they're rather similar). it shouldn't take you anywhere near five years if you play regularly.

now, getting to THIS level:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZmywLe6zLM

that would take five years. or, you know, crazy Japanese genes. =)

awesome.. but thats why drummania never grabbed me. i dont wanna play along with that crap or any of the easier songs.. just the song itself is meh.

AND the machines always had broken buttons so i never was that good :(

THIS guy is awesome lol, i envy the position of DM setups hi hats

surferbill

11-22-2007, 04:17 AM

surferbill: it took me about eight-nine months of Drummania to get to that level (song looks about as hard as Used To Rock And Roll in Drummania, they're rather similar). it shouldn't take you anywhere near five years if you play regularly.

now, getting to THIS level:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZmywLe6zLM

that would take five years. or, you know, crazy Japanese genes. =)

ok cool, i can handle less than a year (hopefully) :)

man that video is insaneeee! I don't think he;s even human

MDKDIABLO

11-22-2007, 04:24 AM

Man, I just don't see why people spend thier time and money on playing **** like DrumMania religiously. Just reminds me of when I used to spend time at the mall, seeing the same turds playing Dance Dance Revolution at the arcade every time I went there. Now if it's on console, that's a different story because you spend one flat price to play however much you like. For the record, my friend is no master of Guitar Hero but he plays the drums like a mofo and every song that we've played thus far he's beat on expert 90%+.

AdamWill

11-22-2007, 04:58 AM

mdkdiablo: there's over 400 songs in the latest DM, covering just about every style; people think it's all j-pop, but it's not. latest mix is heavy on licensed rock, actually.

mostly I like playing DM just because it's stupidly fun. there's so many songs that it's easy to find at least 70-80 that you like both as songs and charts. it also has mastered the Japanese game trick of having a ridiculously fine-grained scoring system which just makes you want to keep improving this score or that score by 0.5%. there's also a nice social aspect to playing at an arcade - you get to know the other people who play the game, people watch each other play and stuff, it's cool that way. same way playing RB with friends is apparently much more fun than playing it on your own.

(if you don't know anything about DM, btw, note that unlike GH / RB, it 'rates' you on each note, same as DDR: there's 'perfect', 'great', 'good', 'poor' and 'miss'. That video is an SS, which means it's a full combo with each note 'perfect' or 'great'. The timing window for 'great' on DM is *substantially* tighter than the timing window for 'making' a note on RB. so, yeah, even more awesome. :>)

KeyzerSoze1979

11-22-2007, 05:52 AM

That guy playing "And Jusice For All" is rediculously good, I wish I had half of that talent on drums.

ChaosElement

11-22-2007, 06:02 AM

I wanna see Tom Sawyer on Expert

blue_dragonzero

11-22-2007, 06:11 AM

Here's a practice vid

http://youtube.com/watch?v=r8tCWySuW20

AdamWill

11-22-2007, 06:16 AM

thanks a lot, dragon.

TheViperOne

11-22-2007, 07:59 AM

I wanna see Tom Sawyer on Expert

Yes, someone please post this!

deepbluevibes

11-22-2007, 08:15 AM

just saying the reason youre able to 5 star stuff has nothing to do with the fact that you "suck dick" in guitar hero.. since youre a vet drummania player, as well as having real drum experience. im sure that would affect your skill a bit more. IMO you came off a bit foolishly arrogant in that first post and im hoping you just didnt know it, since you totally didnt pick up on my sarcasm in the post. if you dont understand what i mean its fine.

keep rockin those score boards on expert dood

yeah, i thought you were being serious about that, so my mistake

however, drummania kind of hinders you here, since the layout is far different, both on the physical drums and on screen. i mean it helps but it hinders, you know what i mean.

surferbill: it took me about eight-nine months of Drummania to get to that level (song looks about as hard as Used To Rock And Roll in Drummania, they're rather similar). it shouldn't take you anywhere near five years if you play regularly.

now, getting to THIS level:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZmywLe6zLM

that would take five years. or, you know, crazy Japanese genes. =)

now, this song is one of like six songs on drummania i can't even *BEAT*; so that should tell you how hard it is. I can beat Model FT2 regular version with an A on Extreme, but not Miracle version, **** that.

Man, I just don't see why people spend thier time and money on playing **** like DrumMania religiously. Just reminds me of when I used to spend time at the mall, seeing the same turds playing Dance Dance Revolution at the arcade every time I went there. Now if it's on console, that's a different story because you spend one flat price to play however much you like. For the record, my friend is no master of Guitar Hero but he plays the drums like a mofo and every song that we've played thus far he's beat on expert 90%+.

Here's why;

1- you get to get an audience

2- you get to play on drumsets where the pedals don't break, the pads work perfectly, and the bass and speakers in the machine are loud as **** (provided you're playing on tokyo's machines, at least)

3- Drummania has 500 songs; Guitar freaks has 500 as well.

4- You get a dedicated hi-hat, snare, two toms, and a cymbal in drummania. In Rock band, you get a switched hi-hat/snare, and two more pads that mix between cymbal and toms randomly depending on the song, and a very shoddy bass pedal.

5- For those of us who like challenge, Drummania is where it's at. Nothing on Rock Band even comes close to anything above a 70 on Drummania, and that's fine; not bashing Rock Band for it, but when I want challenge, I play Drummania.

I mean, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqB1yMk7x9k the song I play there is only a 70-something; yet it's harder than anything i've played in Rock Band so far by a mile.

6- As Adam said, there's the social aspect as well, not only showing off but meeting new people and friends; it gets you out of the house.

7- Finally, as Adam also said, there's a grading scale; on Rock Band, songs are SOOO much easier with the gigantic timing window that it has on drums, whereas on Drummania, not only is the timing much tighter, but every note is rated from miss/boo to Perfect with grades in between, so you have to be that much more accurate and tighter with your playing.

Rock Band's fun and all, not bashing it, and i'm waiting with baited breath to get my new drumset and pedal so I can play again, but Drummania easily holds it's own; that's why it's in basically every arcade in Japan, thousands of them, and in many, many arcades in America, and also why it just got licensed for USA arcades with Drummania V4.

Sorry for ranting, but I just hear this a lot, about how "Drummania is stupid" and it's simply not true.

AdamWill

11-22-2007, 08:29 AM

yeah, I die like 25 seconds into FT2 miracle, that thing's insane.

should be said, though, that DM equipment actually breaks *all the time*. thing is, good arcades have a technician. In Vancouver there's one tech (nice guy named Stan) who specializes in GF/DM; all the decent local arcades with GF/DM machines have him come around and inspect and fix the equipment every couple of weeks, or every month. There's a few who bought second-hand machines but don't bother getting a tech to come, and their machines are shot to hell - pads that don't work, bass that gets stuck on, etc etc. DM machines really need to be inspected at least every two weeks to stay in top condition. this was one major reason I was worried about the RB drums, though they do seem to have been designed and made rather cleverly, prioritizing really high resilience over, say, making the pads bouncy to feel nice.

btw, Run To The Hills looks fairly tough - http://community.rockband.com/vbforum/showthread.php?t=9500 . It's basically Right On Time but significantly faster (30-40bpm difference IIRC), so it'd rate a 70+ on DM I think.

deepbluevibes

11-22-2007, 08:44 AM

should be said, though, that DM equipment actually breaks *all the time*.

Yeah, but not to the extent of Rock Band where you have pedals snapping in half within 2 days of them being brand new, but I know what you mean. Almost all the drummania machines around me (even SVGL's) are usually in ****ty condition. Going to Tokyo though, after having played on those beautiful, perfect machines in pristine condition, almost all drummania machines seem broke after that =P

btw, Run To The Hills looks fairly tough - http://community.rockband.com/vbforum/showthread.php?t=9500 . It's basically Right On Time but significantly faster (30-40bpm difference IIRC), so it'd rate a 70+ on DM I think.

Yeah, but the reason why i wouldn't rate it that high is basically because while it's faster, again, there's no note ratings, + you have star power, + Right on time has more frequent snare hits, and there's those little annoying fills in between the long streams of hi-hat/snare stuff. Still, it looks pretty fun :)

Blackened is by far the biggest bull**** in the entire game so far.

AdamWill

11-22-2007, 08:51 AM

Still haven't found a video of Blackened :( don't suppose you could send a video from practice mode or something since your drums are bust?

deepbluevibes

11-22-2007, 08:59 AM

Still haven't found a video of Blackened :( don't suppose you could send a video from practice mode or something since your drums are bust?

Sure actually, i'll take a video of that later today and upload it.

Coldplayer

11-22-2007, 09:12 AM

You can watch Blitzkrieg Pop, In Bloom, Dani California and Maps Drums on Expert on Rockband.com! Just click on Game Info and then on Gameplay.

Maps is just too awesome.

deepbluevibes

11-22-2007, 09:24 AM

You can watch Blitzkrieg Pop, In Bloom, Dani California and Maps Drums on Expert on Rockband.com! Just click on Game Info and then on Gameplay.

Maps is just too awesome.

well ****, i shouldn't have done videos of Maps and Blitzkrieg then lmao

fried_blowney

11-22-2007, 10:34 AM

Just for kicks can someone up Won't Get Fooled Again?

ShadoeX

11-22-2007, 11:03 AM

Here is Won't Get Fooled Again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmM44np3fwM

Tom Sawyer is next.

After i unlock it.

tombrady

11-22-2007, 11:35 AM

won't get fooled again is a lot harder than run to the hills actually lol

Run to the hills just has a fast snare part...a lot less complex drumming than WgFA...I think non drums will struggle more with WgFA...

Having said that, RttH was harder on hard than WgFA.

Idk though, I'm not a drummer...but I do think I am at least somewhat musically knowledgable, and to me WgFA looks like a more challenging song on expert. RttH almost looks easier on expert than it is on hard lol.

Not many songs in this game have straight 8th note bass drums underneath 16th note snare rolls...it's going to be a struggle for people who don't drum, that's for sure...

I really like that unlike guitar hero, peopel who have played drums before have a great head start with this game...really cool that people who are musically inclined have an advantage on the drums as opposed to GH where it is NOTHING like playing a real guitar.

deepbluevibes

11-22-2007, 11:56 AM

MJDoja

11-22-2007, 12:21 PM

i'm starting to suspect more and more that the songs in this game were ordered in difficulty according to how hard they would be to a non drummer...

mainly because some of the easier tier songs (epic, for example) rape me hard, but stuff like run to the hills, foreplay/longtime and now this that i've seen it (won't get fooled again) would be much funner/easier to me than **** like epic, although that's mostly just because of the bass pedal being super springy.

i dunno though yeah, i can see myself having trouble more with some of the easier songs than any of the hardest tier songs. can't wait to get my set back and play this :D

LOL.. EPIC!

that **** is just a ***** to play.. listening to the youtube parts during the solo while taking each part in practice is the best way to get the exact feel. after that i was like.. wow.. none of these songs are harder than epic (by far) GG&HT is super endurance though. ballroom blitz also gave me trouble until i got better with the "rolls"

too bad about your drum set though man, i feel for ya!

Haruka-chan

11-22-2007, 02:22 PM

Thanks for all the videos guys, it's interesting to see the charts. Run To The Hills looks fun, chart reminded me of Right On Time too. Can someone put up a video of Ballroom Blitz?

Edit: woah that's weird... when I first signed up to the forum I tried to use this nick but it didn't work (didn't send the activation email) I think cause of the hypen. So I registered as 'Haruka' instead. But when I logged on to make this post I forgot what I made my username and for some reason now this works...sorta

deepbluevibes

11-22-2007, 04:05 PM

here's two more expert drum videos from me;

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5IcFtJWUSIs = Maps
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0IdXgvfoVMc = Little Sister

TheViperOne

11-24-2007, 01:33 AM

Tom Sawyer!

sushi111

11-24-2007, 02:26 AM

here's two more expert drum videos from me;

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5IcFtJWUSIs = Maps
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0IdXgvfoVMc = Little Sister

Nice, nice

blue_dragonzero

11-24-2007, 02:30 AM

here's two more expert drum videos from me;

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5IcFtJWUSIs = Maps
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0IdXgvfoVMc = Little Sister

I hate the "and" bass drum on Little Sister. It throws me completely off.

blue_dragonzero

11-24-2007, 03:18 AM

Won't get fooled again in practice mode. The guy still doesn't play. <object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/TmM44np3fwM&rel=1"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/TmM44np3fwM&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>

the_spike

11-24-2007, 03:34 AM

Yeah I broke my pedal and DBV is much better than me, I'll let him make some.

Micker

11-24-2007, 04:08 AM

I wanna see Tom Sawyer on Expert

Ahh, Neil Pert, one of the best drummers alive!!

I think the key is to play the song, not follow the notes so much, on expert. I mean, if you hear the beat in your head, you know whats coming and you could play the song much eaiser then waiting to mimic the game notes as they show up. It would also be eaiser if they had a high hat and cymbal like on that arcade game. Just be easier for people who really play the drums.

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