Rap, hip hop and other genres.

[donth8dre]

I would love to see some Outkast as DLC in Rock Band and Rock Band 2. Songs like Roses, Ghettomusik, Chonkyfire, Spottieottiedopalicious, Idlewild Blue, Prototype, So fresh and so clean, Rosa Parks, Gasoline Dreams. You could have The Roots in there with any of their songs. I mean any song. I just wanna see more. It doesnt just have to be Rock Bands.

[afterstasis]

agreed. outkast have some killer stuff.

[Dr. Wagner]

I personally wouldn't download rap or hip hop. I'd love some funk though.

[donth8dre]

Yeah some funk would be good too.

[TheDeacon_Reloaded]

I would download any Outkast song and any funk song. Those are actually pretty good choices to expand diversity in RB and keep people from getting bored.

And Christ, Outkast is beyond talented - it floors me when I listen to their music.

Sadly HMX keeps it pretty white around here :D

[afterstasis]

indeed.
i'd really like to see several weeks in a row where non-rock genres are explored...
hip-hop, funk, country, disco, folk, etc.

i think everyone would be surprised how differently these genres would play, and variety in gameplay is definitely a good thing!

[Krezin]

Yes, of course, I always love Soulja Boy's killer guitar solos... For those who's mind have been wasted on sex-obsessed rap, that was sarcasm. This is Rock Band

[afterstasis]

Yes, of course, I always love Soulja Boy's killer guitar solos... For those who's mind have been wasted on sex-obsessed rap, that was sarcasm.

would you not agree that for every soulja boy in the hip-hop scene there's an equally embarrassing band in the rock scene?

and your "this is rock band" argument has been shot down time and time again by the developers themselves.

[donth8dre]

There are a few artist i would keep out of this Soujia boy is one of them. He dont need to be in any games.

[pimpsc00by]

ROCKBAND needs some N.E.R.D.S they have some great drums and guitar songs, but agreed Outkast would be great or even some funk too... Shoot can I get some crazy PRINCE !!

[donth8dre]

I mean there is Rap already in the game. Beastie Boys is a RAP DUO that use rock instruments. Why is it when you suggest something that is not something firmilar to people that they always wanna shut it down saying things like, That doesn't belong in "ROCK band". This game should not just be limited to just the Rock genre.

[pimpsc00by]

Yeah I think that rockband has gone beyond "rock" genre - its got "Charlene" in there and "Still Alive", I wouldn't say that "still Alive" is a rock genre - so to say that its just a "rock" game is an understatement its more about just having good music

[donth8dre]

At the same time what is good to you might not be good to me. Even though I own just about every DLC song there is for Rock Band. There are some songs i can do with out. N.E.R.D would be a great addition to this game.

[Krezin]

would you not agree that for every soulja boy in the hip-hop scene there's an equally embarrassing band in the rock scene?

and your "this is rock band" argument has been shot down time and time again by the developers themselves.

If your talking about the Jonas Brothers, they're pop.

[donth8dre]

Krezin what determines Rock. PLease explain.

[afterstasis]

If your talking about the Jonas Brothers, they're pop.

i'm not talking about anyone in particular, because everyone has different tastes...

some would say that would include mainstream rock like nickelback while others would point at a band like slipknot.
some would argue that 80's rock is a smear on the name of rock 'n roll while others would say that punk rock is a disgrace.

it's all subjective and the only way to please everyone is to include everyone at some point.

[Krezin]

Rock doesn't have to repeatedly swear or talk about sex to be popular, like new rap. Old rap is okay, like Can't Touch This. But still, I doubt it has guitar and such, or an actual tune for vocals.

[donth8dre]

And krezin dont look to Wikipedia. Krezin there are new rap songs that aren't about sex drugs or violence. There are songs in Rock Band now that refrences violence, drugs and sex. So dont see what your getting at.

[afterstasis]

Rock doesn't have to repeatedly swear or talk about sex to be popular, like new rap. Old rap is okay, like Can't Touch This. But still, I doubt it has guitar and such, or an actual tune for vocals.

rock music is littered with as much profanity and sexuality as hip-hop.

also, lots of hip-hop artists use guitar and melodic vocals, though neither are apparently necessary based on current music in the game.

[back_blows]

Rock doesn't have to repeatedly swear or talk about sex to be popular, like new rap. Old rap is okay, like Can't Touch This. But still, I doubt it has guitar and such, or an actual tune for vocals.

How do you feel about Anthrax's collaboration with Public Enemy?

[Krezin]

And krezin dont look to Wikipedia. Krezin there are new rap songs that aren't about sex drugs or violence. There are songs in Rock Band now that refrences violence, drugs and sex. So dont see what your getting at.
Why bring Wikipedia into this???

[donth8dre]

Why bring Wikipedia into this???

I know alot of people that uses wikipedia to prove their point. I just want to know what you consider "rock music."

[Krezin]

Wikipedia isn't reliable, it takes a while to be updated, so when it is, it's already old news, also my friend went to Wikipedia, and put PIANO IS ONLY A PERCUSSION INSTRUMENT because he was too stubborn to admit it was also a stringed instrument.

[Cormac]

I'm all for other genres, but rap and hip-hop? F*CK NO!

[westside222]

BeeGees, nuff said

[TheDeacon_Reloaded]

How do you feel about Anthrax's collaboration with Public Enemy?

One word: EPIC.

[Overdrive]

I think people are forgetting that these songs need to at least have a guitar in them. If it's missing vocals (YYZ), drums, or bass, that's okay, but really a guitar is what defines rock IMO. People like me who only play the drums would be fine with it though, since most rap songs have drums in them.

[Ferocious Q]

Eminem.

JUST LOSE IT WOULD KICK ASS
and i hate rap.

[donth8dre]

I think people are forgetting that these songs need to at least have a guitar in them. If it's missing vocals (YYZ), drums, or bass, that's okay, but really a guitar is what defines rock IMO. People like me who only play the drums would be fine with it though, since most rap songs have drums in them.

This is true but there are alot of songs that use vocals, guitar bass and drums. So i dont know whythere are people here downplaying it. I guess its because its rap music that pretty much outsells most genres.

[TheClashTheClashTheClash]

If they do bring rap to Rock Band, they should bring Magnificent Seven and This Is Radio Clash, both are by The Clash

[Phategod1]

OK HERE IS A FEW THINGS

1. NOT ALL RAP OR HIP HOP IS ABOUT SEX DRUG AND VIOLENCE JUST LIKE NOT ALL ROCK MUSIC IS ABOUT SEX DRUGS AND VIOLENCE.

2. THERE ARE SOME HIP HOP ACT THAT ACTUALY USE FULL INSTRUMENTS HERE'S ONE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znavFjNw6IQ

3. THERE'S ALREADY RAP MC FRONTALOT,AND RATM.

[aluvium]

I would love for there to be some rap/hip hop in RB.
Hip Hop/Rap is actually my favorite genre of music, but only the good stuff, not the mainstream Rap, its bad. I like a lot of genres of music and I think everyone should be open to trying different types of music at some point, or at least supporting of the expansion of the game to appeal to more people.

I don't like country music but I support it being added to the game because more diversity is always a good thing :)

[HeavyMetalKing]

Rage is not rap...at most they are rap rock, although they are also classified as alt rock, funk rock, and alt metal. Still, rap rock means they are a rock group, not a rap group, just as Limp Bizkit is considered a rock group even though they were rap rock. The same also goes for (old) Linkin Park. It takes more than rapped vocals to be considered a full on rap group...what, I'm not sure. But obviously Rage doesn't have it, considering they are considered rap-rock, not rap...case in point, both The Roots and Flobots use full instruments, and yet they are considered full on rap (to the best of my knowledge).

That being said, as long as it uses full instrumentation, I don't care if hip-hop is included. Probably wouldn't download it, but I don't care if HMX makes it DLC.

[SaikoSakura]

2. THERE ARE SOME HIP HOP ACT THAT ACTUALY USE FULL INSTRUMENTS HERE'S ONE
What song was that? The video no longer exists.

Nu metal bands such as Linkin Park and RATM is the closest we'll have (besides MC Frontalot.) I love Outkast and N.E.R.D. I'm sure Busta Rhymes "Fire It Up" would be more fun to play then "Whatcha Want." HMX has shown interest expanding their libraries beyond "Rock." I cannot wait for Stevie Ray Vaughn and I'm looking forward to more blues. I'd love to see some funk, or even jazz.

[onduvalst]

I want some Seldom Scene and some Parliment.

[ShoTTySLanKiN]

I think most people are scared and as am I that it will be untrue to the game. I would be for Outkast, N.E.R.D. or even Prince, I'll Download it cuz I download it all. As long as it stays true to Rock Band in that the charts are based on those actual instruments.

[avollx]

This is Rock band, not rap band or country band. I like rap, but I don't wanna see any of it on rock band, nor would I ever pay for rap DC or country.

[Lumaric01]

Its called rock band for a reason because its all rock and putting rap or any type of hip-hop in it would ruin it and personally if I see that happen im selling the game

[Phategod1]

What song was that? The video no longer exists.

Nu metal bands such as Linkin Park and RATM is the closest we'll have (besides MC Frontalot.) I love Outkast and N.E.R.D. I'm sure Busta Rhymes "Fire It Up" would be more fun to play then "Whatcha Want." HMX has shown interest expanding their libraries beyond "Rock." I cannot wait for Stevie Ray Vaughn and I'm looking forward to more blues. I'd love to see some funk, or even jazz.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAkQvVqrV9s

THIS IS "THE SEED 2.0" BY THE ROOTS FEATURING CODY CHESNUTT AS FAR AS RAGE YOUR WRESTLING WITH SEMANTICS ZACK DE LA ROCHE RAP'S PLAIN AND SIMPLE, THAT MAKES IT RAP MUSIC OH AND TO Lumaric01 CONGRATULATION ON BEING A MORON.

[donth8dre]

This is Rock band, not rap band or country band. I like rap, but I don't wanna see any of it on rock band, nor would I ever pay for rap DC or country.

I dont see what your problem is. You wanna keep it only ROCK bands where as there are already, Rap and pop on there.

[donth8dre]

Its called rock band for a reason because its all rock and putting rap or any type of hip-hop in it would ruin it and personally if I see that happen im selling the game

I am sorry you would sell a game because there is rap on it. Why did you buy it there is rap on it right now.

[trench762]

I'd rather see this than country anyday, agree that Outkast would be fun. I would hate new school rap though. The day 50 cent or young jeezy or little john are released...I take this post back. There are alot of good instrumentals in hip hop/rap and funk would be awesome.

[HeavyMetalKing]

THIS IS "THE SEED 2.0" BY THE ROOTS FEATURING CODY CHESNUTT AS FAR AS RAGE YOUR WRESTLING WITH SEMANTICS ZACK DE LA ROCHE RAP'S PLAIN AND SIMPLE, THAT MAKES IT RAP MUSIC OH AND TO Lumaric01 CONGRATULATION ON BEING A MORON.

As I said before, it takes more than rapped vocals to be rap music, else Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, and half of RHCP's music would be rap. Also, I tend to categorize my music by where I buy it from in the store (at least for the overall genre), and RATM has always been in the rock section, no matter which store I go into, while The Roots and Flobots, two other bands that use full instrumentation and have rapped vocals, have always been in the rap section. I'm not sure what it takes to be considered a rap act over a rock act, but Rage doesn't meet the requirement. They are considered a rap rock band, among other types of rock (alt, funk-metal, etc.) but as far as categorization seems to go, as long as that "rock" is in the genre, then they are considered a rock band. Also, I would say that the fact they have 4 different categorizations (rap rock, alt rock, funk metal, alt metal) and only one of the four actually has rap in the name, then they are defintely a rock band. But as you said, semantics. At this point I'm just wasting time waiting for the shower. :P

Again, that being said, if they do include hip-hop, I just hope that:

1) it has full instrumentation, and isn't Jay-Z or something, with synthetic beats charted for the instruments (yes I realize they did it with Freezepop, and yes it annoys me just as much)

AND

2) they pick something more fun than Whacha Want. Seriously, I have friends who never progressed beyond Easy that can beat Whacha Want on Expert (we're talkin guitar here)...

[jayou521]

Rock Box is a hip hop song by Run DMC that would be totally awesome~
If you're against Rap and Hip Hop in Rock Band, surely this should change your mind~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA-zaE6aevs

[kaybee]

All the people who are repeatedly saying "This is Rock Band, not Rap Band" and equally stupid things sound like racist protesters or "Not in my back yard" people.
Listen guys, you are preventing progress. Be quiet and accept the fact that the inclusion of Hip-Hop is imminent and hopefully Harmonix makes some wizened choices as far as song selection goes.

[baio2k]

All the people who are repeatedly saying "This is Rock Band, not Rap Band" and equally stupid things sound like racist protesters or "Not in my back yard" people.
Listen guys, you are preventing progress. Be quiet and accept the fact that the inclusion of Hip-Hop is imminent and hopefully Harmonix makes some wizened choices as far as song selection goes.

Plus it will probably be DLC, so you don't have to play it.
Personally I would like to see "Doobie Ashtray" by Devin the Dude.
That'll never happen so maybe I will just chart it myself.

Either way, if it has entertaining bass, drums, guitar, and vocals, who cares what genre of music it's been artificially placed in.

[pimpsc00by]

I honestly think that they could do it ... I think its more about getting the license... and having Jay-Z on there wouldn't be horrible a lot of his live stuff is all band instruments, and not to mention his collaboration with Linkin Park (I can't remember) was good too, ROOTS would be awesome as well, there are plenty of rap songs that could be done on RB its just a matter of getting them on there.

[Chocobo115]

Rap & Hip Hop
bleh... I hope not

[bdrizzle14]

indeed.
i'd really like to see several weeks in a row where non-rock genres are explored...
hip-hop, funk, country, disco, folk, etc.

i think everyone would be surprised how differently these genres would play, and variety in gameplay is definitely a good thing!

i like this idea! some one make it happen!

[HeavyMetalKing]

I vote for Jazz-infused pop-punk polka in Rock Band.

[TkDiamonD]

yeah some hip-hop that actually suited the instruments of the game would deffinitely pretty sick, i was into hip-hop before i was into rock, so i would deffinitely appreciate some selection

[Def_Julz]

There will always be people who say that rap or Hip Hop should not be in Rock Band, but the wonderful thing about DLC is that you have a choice to buy or not buy it. P.S. people who say that rap is "******s attempting poetry," why don't you listen to some non mainstream rap and see how some rappers can reach a state deeper than any poet could.

[jeronemitchell]

It's hilarious how uninformed people are about anything they don't like. For example, Lil John in specific has made a number of songs that fit the HMX requirements (guitar/bass/drums/vocals, legally clearable, master tracks of each instrument, etc.).

Perhaps people should look back at the thread where HMX gives the standards for what can and can't be done before saying no...

[TkDiamonD]

let's go - twista, lil jon would be sick (crazy train beat)

[kaybee]

There will always be people who say that rap or Hip Hop should not be in Rock Band, but the wonderful thing about DLC is that you have a choice to buy or not buy it. P.S. people who say that rap is "******s attempting poetry," why don't you listen to some non mainstream rap and see how some rappers can reach a state deeper than any poet could.

Saul Williams
Sage Francis
Shad

^^^ those three are decent starting points for anyone who is interested in finding modern rappers who reach deep.

[Phategod1]

I love Hip Hop and will defend it BUT NO LITTLE JOHN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[GodListensToSlayer]

I Also agree on funk, but no rap, noting wrong with it but this is rock band not "Harmonix's White Wankster Rap Battle show down"

[Phategod1]

I Also agree on funk, but no rap, noting wrong with it but this is rock band not "Harmonix's White Wankster Rap Battle show down"SOMEONES NOT PAYING ATTENTION, IS IT THAT HARD TO LOOK AT THE PREVIOUS PAGES.

[GodListensToSlayer]

SOMEONES NOT PAYING ATTENTION, IS IT THAT HARD TO LOOK AT THE PREVIOUS PAGES.

All of them? Yes. I usually only get through the first one sadly. Just being bored anyway.

[baio2k]

Its called rock band for a reason because its all rock and putting rap or any type of hip-hop in it would ruin it and personally if I see that happen im selling the game

Well then I assume you have already sold it and won't be bothering us any longer with ignorant posts.

It's not "all rock" as you claim either, so your point is invalid.

[Def_Julz]

I Also agree on funk, but no rap, noting wrong with it but this is rock band not "Harmonix's White Wankster Rap Battle show down"

lmao..the sad thing is that I could see that happening if they add another cheap beastie boys song.

[Phategod1]

The dumbest thing thats been said is "The game is called Rock band not rap band" does anyone using this argument want to explain Jimmy Buffet

[onduvalst]

whoa there, lets leave poor jimmy out this.

[Timmy69]

YO YO YO Homie dogs! Yall need to make a game called "Rap Group" Make the instruments be a turn table, drums (for the bass and beat), a mic, and whatever else. The raps need to be modern day famous rap songs. Like Lil Wayne, Kanye, Ludacris, Akon, T-Pain, Twista, Nelly, Common, Talib Kweli, etc. It would be SICK!!! and give me credit for it.. biatches

[Jimmy70]

DAAAAAAMMMMNNNN... Timmy69 thats an awesome idea. you are so kick ass man. I'd buy that game fo shizzle. I would be all about the turn tables.. Erra Erra Oh Ah. For the whole game, I think it should be like 200.. gangsta rappers would still buy that game. Timmy, you need to call me and we can get together. I was talkin to my girl Kimmy, and she said you would probably win an Emmy! Hit me up brotha